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Title: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 12:01:09 PM
Hi folks.

I'm contemplating a bad thing and starting a Celtic Army/Warband for my own amusement, or possibly playing PigWars and would like some advice from those better informed than me.

I would like to take advantage of the current Foundry offer and get a few of the Slaine minis from the 2000ad range as leaders/champions, and really like the look of the Renegade Celts as well. Does anyone know how they would match up?

I am also wondering about the Celtos and Chronopia minis too. I appreciate that they are very different in style, but would they be ok sizewise for character models? And has anyone ever ordered the Chronopia stuff from Prince August? It looks like a weird set up to me and I don't want to dive into something without checking it out.

(I also believe that the Black Tree Celts are pretty good sculpts, and value for money, but given their current inability to deliver people's orders, I think I'll be giving thme a miss...)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.

JB
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Svennn on October 22, 2008, 12:25:44 PM
What you want is a load of AA Sidhe (cos' I have lots to spare)

Svennn
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Captain Blood on October 22, 2008, 12:38:20 PM
Rob

that's not a bad thing! it's a good thing! I have long coveted the Celtos range myself, but dare not add to the lead mountain! They're cheaper than they used to be when iKore had them as well  ;D
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Lowtardog on October 22, 2008, 01:07:22 PM
The renegade are nice however suffer form the circket bat approach to swords smithing.

Worth checking out is a company called simple miniature games who are selling off their Confrontation range, there are some nice minis in their Kelts range which could be added including druids, warriors and some warp warriors
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 01:17:25 PM
Cheers for that. Not too worried about big stupid swords, these would be fantasy Celts anyway, not historically based. (That way I can't stuff up painting them and get told off by people who care about things like that.)

I really can't decide about the Confrontation stuff. It looks all willowy and wrong to me, delicate somehow, even though I can certainly appreciate the talent that goes into the sculpting. Worth having another look at, anyway. Ta.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Orctrader on October 22, 2008, 01:33:45 PM
Why not just Celtos and EM4 “Barbarians?”  All Copplestones sculpts.

LINK (http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/The_Barbarians.html)

And don’t be put off by the crappy photos on the Website.  These are nice figures...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/orctrader/General/Barbarian.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/orctrader/General/Bar1.jpg)

Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on October 22, 2008, 01:34:12 PM
What about the latest plastic Celts from Warlord? They are quite cheap and one could add bits from GW or the like for an even more fantastic flavour. There are also druids in this range and all kinds of funny additions like naked fanatics, fighting women...
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Lowtardog on October 22, 2008, 01:41:25 PM
Cheers for that. Not too worried about big stupid swords, these would be fantasy Celts anyway, not historically based. (That way I can't stuff up painting them and get told off by people who care about things like that.)

I really can't decide about the Confrontation stuff. It looks all willowy and wrong to me, delicate somehow, even though I can certainly appreciate the talent that goes into the sculpting. Worth having another look at, anyway. Ta.

If you dont fancy that there are still the big giant barbarians and Ogimos which would fit with foundry etc in that range and cheap as chips on that site
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Rhoderic on October 22, 2008, 01:42:37 PM
I really can't decide about the Confrontation stuff. It looks all willowy and wrong to me, delicate somehow, even though I can certainly appreciate the talent that goes into the sculpting. Worth having another look at, anyway. Ta.

I share your view on the Confrontation Celts. Their lanky look just doesn't sit right with me, nor do the somewhat contorted-looking poses. They'd look right at home in some French Art Nouveau-ish comic book, but nowhere else.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: white knight on October 22, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
I ordered Chronopia and Warzone stuff from Prince August once. Don't remember anything about the specifics, but there were no problems.

Sold the barbarians to a forum member too. :)
(but not because they were bad models, they were great, Kev White sculpts I believe).
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 02:01:32 PM
Thanks for that. It just struck me as odd the way they say order something, pay for it, we'll see if we've still got it, then either post it to you, offer you an alternative or give you a refund.

Seems a bit of a roundabout way of doing things. Still, that makes me a bit more inclined to take a punt if you had smooth service from them.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Lowtardog on October 22, 2008, 02:29:39 PM
Thanks for that. It just struck me as odd the way they say order something, pay for it, we'll see if we've still got it, then either post it to you, offer you an alternative or give you a refund.

Seems a bit of a roundabout way of doing things. Still, that makes me a bit more inclined to take a punt if you had smooth service from them.


I have bought a lot other dwarves from Prince August lately one of the packs was packaged incorrectly and as a result the chap didnt have a hand, when I asked for an exchange or additional hands they were unable to do that and sent replacements. I suggested in passing that rather than bin the packs they cast new hands up.

Their reply was they couldnt cast the figures? and so the incorrect packs would go for scrap and used for casting? I assume form this that this means they have a large existing stock but maybe cant produce new figures? I know thepackaging was the old Target games blisters hence describing rare etc!!!
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: white knight on October 22, 2008, 03:19:06 PM
Yes, I have heard something like that too, that they only have stock and can't cast new ones.

Kinda ironic when you think that this is a company that sells moulds to cast your own figures. ;)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 22, 2008, 03:23:18 PM
I´ve got a bunch of old Harlequin Celts which I´d like to get rid of. Please note that they are on the shortish side of 28mm, and have a certain fantasy slant, but don´t look out of place next to more "historic" types as well as the Celtos stuff (although the weapons look far more realistic!).

(http://www.displacedminiatures.com/images/229200534500Celts_01_1.jpg)

If you´d be interested, drop me a line and I´ll look for them in my BigBoxesOfMiniaturesWithFarTooMuchStuffInThem(TM).
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 22, 2008, 04:23:02 PM
I have Foundry, Minifigs, Irregular, Harlequin, Warrior, Celtos and Chronopia.

Minifigs are smaller than all the rest but ok for adolecent skirmishers. Foundry, Warrior and Irregular are ever so slightly bigger than Minifigs but not so much that they wouldn't work in the same units, the difference is only a mm or 2. Harlequin, Celtos and Chronopia are slightly bigger again, about 2mm taller, but match well with each other. I don't think the last 3 could be mixed in the same units as the first 4 except maybe as leaders or champions.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Rhoderic on October 22, 2008, 05:33:57 PM
Bronze Age recently had some Celtic style barbarians in their fantasy section. Most of them are gone now (David seems to be making new ones to replace them) but maybe he still has some that he can sell you, if you ask. They were nice, flairful sculpts in a style not unlike Celtos.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Captain Blood on October 22, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Why not just Celtos and EM4 “Barbarians?”  All Copplestones sculpts.

Really?
Are the Celtos figures by Copplestone? I never knew that... They don't have quite his look, but it probably explains why I like them so much...

I must go and take another look to see if I can spot some of those trademark Copplestone design motifs ...  o_o
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Rhoderic on October 22, 2008, 07:53:32 PM
Why not just Celtos and EM4 “Barbarians?”  All Copplestones sculpts.

Really?
Are the Celtos figures by Copplestone?

Kev White rather than Mark Copplestone, surely...?
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 08:05:38 PM
Wow, seems like everyone's had the same idea for a fantasy Celt army at some point.

Westphalia Chris, thank you for the offer, I may get back to you on that. I have a few other things to get out of the way first, and this was gonna be a side project for the New Year really (see, planning ahead!) but I'lll bear all this info in mind when I get round to it.

Much obliged chaps, very helpful.  :)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 22, 2008, 08:59:21 PM
Looked up the miniatures, and the numbers are fluctuating! The unpainted/basecoated figure count is up to 8, painted ones down to 11. 19 Figures overall with some separate shields.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/Christian_S_1979/Modelling%20and%20Miniatures/Sales/DSC01364.jpg)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 09:24:03 PM
They look great Chris, and thanks for the offer. Would you mind if I got back to you about it sometime next week? Have to wait until payday before I can buy anymore minis.  :'(
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on October 22, 2008, 09:55:55 PM
They look great Chris, and thanks for the offer. Would you mind if I got back to you about it sometime next week? Have to wait until payday before I can buy anymore minis.  :'(

Yes, no problem with that - didn´t want to sound pushy. It´s just since those figures went in and out of boxes in the hope of selling them so often, I wanted to make sure that I have an accurate and up-to-date offer. I would trade as well, BTW. PM me for details - we don´t need to clog up the thread with it.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on October 22, 2008, 09:59:56 PM
Will do mate, cheers.  ;)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Rhoderic on October 22, 2008, 10:25:13 PM
@Chris

Is that female figure (in your pictures) from the same range? Just wondering if she's still available from any manufacturer.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 22, 2008, 11:39:58 PM
@Chris

Is that female figure (in your pictures) from the same range? Just wondering if she's still available from any manufacturer.
Funnily enough Rhods, I asked BTD recently what happened to the Kelt range. This was their reply.

"The Harlequin Kelt range was sold off probably 12-15 years ago but I can't remember who to. Might have been Duncan who does one of the UK magazines. No idea if they went into production with anyone."

I haven't e-mailed any of the magazines yet to see what happened to the range.

They are apparently selling their Gallic Orc range soon as well.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Lowtardog on October 22, 2008, 11:41:59 PM
@Chris

Is that female figure (in your pictures) from the same range? Just wondering if she's still available from any manufacturer.
Funnily enough Rhods, I asked BTD recently what happened to the Kelt range. This was their reply.

"The Harlequin Kelt range was sold off probably 12-15 years ago but I can't remember who to. Might have been Duncan who does one of the UK magazines. No idea if they went into production with anyone."

I haven't e-mailed any of the magazines yet to see what happened to the range.


That would be Duncan McFarlane who edits Wargames illustrated, I wouldnt hold out too much hope on them ever being cast up though
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on October 22, 2008, 11:43:03 PM
@Chris

Is that female figure (in your pictures) from the same range? Just wondering if she's still available from any manufacturer.
Funnily enough Rhods, I asked BTD recently what happened to the Kelt range. This was their reply.

"The Harlequin Kelt range was sold off probably 12-15 years ago but I can't remember who to. Might have been Duncan who does one of the UK magazines. No idea if they went into production with anyone."

I haven't e-mailed any of the magazines yet to see what happened to the range.


That would be Duncan McFarlane who edits Wargames illustrated, I wouldnt hold out too much hope on them ever being cast up though
Why? That answer sounded very cloak and dagger! lol
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Lowtardog on October 22, 2008, 11:58:43 PM
No not at all, Duncan is a great chap had one or two beers  ::) and a curry with him at Partizan along with the Frother lads and had a great time. I just get the feeling form the scarcity of the Dee Zee minis and the Trent minis (which he has only released a very small part of the collection) that it is not his core interest
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Orctrader on October 23, 2008, 09:08:42 AM
Why not just Celtos and EM4 “Barbarians?”  All Copplestones sculpts.

Really?
Are the Celtos figures by Copplestone? I never knew that... They don't have quite his look, but it probably explains why I like them so much...

I must go and take another look to see if I can spot some of those trademark Copplestone design motifs ...  o_o

Forgive me for the confusion caused.  I meant that all of the EM4 Barbarians are "Copplestone."  The Celtos certainly are not.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2008, 09:28:30 AM
Not being terribly helpful here I guess but I have a large pile of Blacktree , Renegade and some Foundry Mounted Huns . They all seem to match pretty well except for the huge Horses on the Renegade Chariots compared to the Ponies from Foundry . I'm still not sure if its worth worrying about though  :?
Anything new that I buy from now on will be Warlord Celts .
Hope to paint them for my next project .
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on November 12, 2008, 08:02:14 PM
Well, thanks to Svennn the DHnut, Westfalia Chris and Ink the Troll on Frothers, I have become the proud owner of this little band of hastily blu-tacked together Celt warriors:

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/Army1.jpg)

There are a few Chronopia and Celtos minis in there (all the mounted ones) that I bought new, but most of it is made up of parts of other people's lead mountain.

Svennn sold me a couple of chariots as well, but I need to see if I can replace the horsies with something a bit chunkier as they look tiny compared to the Celtos ones.

Thanks to everybody who has helped out. Couldn't (and probably shouldn't) have done it without you!  :)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 12, 2008, 08:48:29 PM
You do know that you are obliged to paint them ASAP, eh? ;) lol

Maybe call upon some celtic brushwork spirits to aid you in your quest.
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: Captain Blood on November 12, 2008, 10:52:58 PM
Very nice collection Rob...
Look forward to seeing them painted.
How's your tartan technique?  ;)
Title: Re: Celt Minis - help?
Post by: JollyBob on November 13, 2008, 08:59:14 AM

How's your tartan technique?  ;)

Untested as yet. I can see this is going to be one of my more frustrating ideas.  lol