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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Braz on 25 August 2015, 09:07:24 AM
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A small vtol flyer which I figure seats 6.
From cereal card, dowel, coathanger, a bit of insomnia and some foamcore.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Brazve/Terrain/Scifi/Flyer%20WIP01.jpg)
Air intake has since been moved to the side. Before priming need to greenstuff some joints. add the landing gear, lights and thrusters, and retrofit some weight to the front - it's perfectly balanced so tends to tip backwards too easily.
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A small vtol flyer which I figure seats 6.
From cereal card, dowel, coathanger, a bit of insomnia and some foamcore.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Brazve/Terrain/Scifi/Flyer%20WIP01.jpg)
Air intake has since been moved to the side. Before priming need to greenstuff some joints. add the landing gear, lights and thrusters, and retrofit some weight to the front - it's perfectly balanced so tends to tip backwards too easily.
How on earth did you get the cereal card to conform to those curves and stay there while the adhesive dried? Great work!
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How on earth did you get the cereal card to conform to those curves and stay there while the adhesive dried? Great work!
That'll be the coat hanger he mentioned. Ingenious.
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Yep, that's impressive.
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Great build, looking forward to seeing it finished.
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That's a very good shape, not at all boxy like a lot of gaming flyers 8)
Looking forward to seeing it complete :)
cheers
James
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That'll be the coat hanger he mentioned. Ingenious.
Actually the coathanger is passed through the body and is used to strengthen the leg winglet pylons on the sides although I can see how it could be used for the curves. I have some WIP images on another device - will post a mini tutorial later; have to run off to work now.
Thanks all.
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Cool! I'm really interested in seeing more of this! :-*
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Yes, that is competence worthy of my undying hatred. ;)
Well done!
Doug
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Really cool flyer dude.
I look forward to your tutorial
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I didn't take as many pics as I thought I did so less of a tutorial than I thought it would be.
The basic framework is made from illustration board which is quite rigid and makes a great substructure. Basically it is a bunch of cross sections of how I want the final shape to be. I added foamboard cutoffs cut to shape to provide a greater gluing surface; generally not much edge is needed for gluing but this helps.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019192432-419551949.jpeg)
Here you can see the dowel used to support the tail section.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019192433-419562193.jpeg)
***Important to note that cardboard has a direction of natural curvature so when cutting out pieces one should take that into consideration; that makes for smoother curves and the cardboard is less likely to crack. Also curving the cardboard in several small increments helps too instead of in one go.***
Below you can see the first panels being added. Generally I place a slightly larger piece of cardboard against the structure where it will finally be, trace it with a pen, and gradually trim it to fit. This sometimes needs a third hand or some low tack painters tape. This becomes my template piece which I use to cut out the panels.
The door is just pen heavily drawn in to create the panel lines.
How on earth did you get the cereal card to conform to those curves and stay there while the adhesive dried? Great work!
I glue the pieces using Aleenes Tacky glue and just hold it in place with my fingers for a few minutes; it sets up fairly quickly. I usually have some show or film playing in the background so just watch that. Sometimes I use elastics or clothes pins. I also added some extra tabs to give a greater gluing area but just edge to edge is what I usually use. Also you can see on the left most panel I added a second layer of cardboard to give greater surface strength; I precurved the pieces before gluing them together.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019192433-419571941.jpeg)
I then add a second layer of cardboard, with cutout features to create the recessed areas, windows, etc. I use the templates I created earlier and cut out pieces that are slightly larger so it will fit over the larger area created by the first layer. A lot of gentle trimming and dry-fitting until it fits just right then glued in place. The second layer greatly increases the strength of the model.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019192433-419582153.jpeg)
A couple of washers are retrofitted as weight added to the front to keep it from tipping too easily. I probably won't add much detail to the bottom as it is usually not seen. I added a layer of foamboard and cut the edges at an angle so could have a solid surface to glue the bottom trim on. No photos of the winglets being built. I drilled a hole through the structure to pass the coat hanger wire through and bent it carefully with some pliers. I then built up the wing surface from an initial illustration board shape and two layers of cardboard to create the wing shape.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019192433-419591906.jpeg)
Here is another view with the new intake vents.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193136-419602410.jpeg)
Hopefully this gives some insight on how I got this far.
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That is brilliant. Now I want to have a go at creating something similar.
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Very nice - I need to get some of your brand of insomnia! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Very Nice Braz! 8) Thanks for taking the time to share some WIP images, its greatly appreciated ^_^
I look forward to the post paint piccies! :D
Cheers
Matt
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Yes, that is competence worthy of my undying hatred. ;)
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On top of which, you try to make it look SOOO easy. Not making it any better, you know.
You said:
***Important to note that cardboard has a direction of natural curvature so when cutting out pieces one should take that into consideration; that makes for smoother curves and the cardboard is less likely to crack. Also curving the cardboard in several small increments helps too instead of in one go.***
TOO true; a major point should be, for those of us with a less sensitive touch, curving around a curve, say a bottle, can help you avoid the dreaded 'crisp fold.'
Getting the curves balanced, now that's an art!
Doug
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TOO true; a major point should be, for those of us with a less sensitive touch, curving around a curve, say a bottle, can help you avoid the dreaded 'crisp fold.'
Yes. I forgot to mention that trick that I use too - different diameter dowels.
Currently trying to find some suitable landing wheels/gear.
Here are similar photos of an Elysium Flyer I'm finishing up.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193533-41961165.jpeg)
At this point it was going to have an open cockpit.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193533-419621152.jpeg)
And here I closed it off instead.
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Brazve/Terrain/Scifi/elysium09.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193533-419631228.jpeg)
Just the red to paint on and some detailing.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193533-419641912.jpeg)
More stuff to come.
Cheers all
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Show Off! :)
Looks great agin thanks for the WIP pics
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great cardboard skills. I am very impressed with your scratch-builds. The bar furniture/book cases (in other threads) and subs are very good. Keep at it.
What glue do you use on the card? Super glue or PVA?
Cheers
Matt
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Thanks all.
Constable Bertrand: I use Aleene's Tacky glue for most of the basic construction. It's a thicker, less wet version of PVA that sets up fairly quickly, I also find that it doesn't seem to induce warping very much but then I spread it thinly and evenly.
I also use superglue, the runny kind, mostly along any edges where cardboard is likely to suffer abuse. I spread it along with a piece of scrap cardboard and it soaks into the cardboard and hardens it. Then you can sand it with very very fine sandpaper.
Now for pictures of kid proofing (sort of) paper shipping containers.
Here are some cardstock shipping containers I built, these ones from Tommygun, although his download site seems to have disappeared. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?226343-Tommygun-does-what-with-paper/page14 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?226343-Tommygun-does-what-with-paper/page14)
Other good (and free) sources of paper containers include Antenociti http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/free-papercard-craft-containers/ (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/free-papercard-craft-containers/) Toposolitario http://www.toposolitario.com/workshop/index_papermodels.html (http://www.toposolitario.com/workshop/index_papermodels.html)
Here you can see modifications to make it into a Firefly BlueSun container. Done using GIMP.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193947-419652186.jpeg)
Make sure to colour the edges. It's easier done now before assembly. Printed on 110lb cover stock.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193947-41966705.jpeg)
Lightly score the fold lines with a dull blade or pen. Makes all the difference when folding to get straight edges.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193947-419672354.jpeg)
Cut out and fit in panels from whatever foamboard/cardboard/illustration board scrap cutoffs are about.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193947-41968667.jpeg)
Using Aleene's Tacky glue spread thinly to glue the panels.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019193947-41969390.jpeg)
Assembling piece by piece and folding as I go. A bit of a puzzle to make sure can assemble properly while adding reinforcement pieces.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019194241-419702058.jpeg)
At this point I hot glued several pieces of gravel to give weight to the piece. Keeps it from sliding around on the table.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019194241-41971784.jpeg)
Last panel to be added is kind of tricky so I reinforced with some cereal card and foamboard instead such that the panel can close properly.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019194241-419722172.jpeg)
Here is a selection of completed containers.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/2880-261019194241-4197397.jpeg)
I pretty much do this to all cardmodels using various materials. More photos to come.
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I like that a lot. Brilliant stuff :)
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Lovely. I have a few paper shipping crates awaiting for me, I think I'll follow your tutorial. Thanks! And thanks for the links too!!