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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Argonor on 03 November 2008, 11:32:22 AM
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Pardon my ignorance, but which European power would employ these:
(http://www.brigadegames.com/images/BGGL/BG-EET050_sm.jpg)
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I *think* they are they are supposed to be Askaris employed by 1930-ies Germans. They wear Africa corps uniforms. I suppose they are not historical, but fictional.
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They are Italian askaris . I cannot tell you whether ethiopian or eritrean.
I will check and advise.
However you can use as fictionals.
To my sense only the rifles could tell. Can you recognise the rifle maker?
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Well... must have, then :)
Perfect for 'hired guns' for those Pulp German archaeologists.... And they have fezzes ;D ::)
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Libyan or Eritrean Askaris that could be found in Ethiopia during the Invasion of Abyssinia an/or the Middle-East fighting alongside their masters the Italians and Germans.
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I stand corrected.
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Very nice :)
I'll go see if I have an Osprey covering that (I guess not, will probably have to get it...)
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Yes there is one by Osprey, but
there is a better book than Osprey, an Italian edition [but has english captions]
I think it is available on the net.
I will advise!
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Sorry for the delay.
For those interesting in the Italian colonial uniforms, as I advised you there is a better than Osprey book,
"Le Guerre Coloniali Italiane 1885-1900
by R. Ruggeri "
it is out of print, but, the good news is here. warflag has something on the net:
the images are available here:
http://www.warflag.com/shadow/uniforms/ituniform.htm
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they are Somali askary 1930, from Askary miniatures USA.
but what kind of paint they have on ?
Piero
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they are Somali askary 1930, from Askary miniatures USA.
but what kind of paint they have on ?
Piero
Are you asking about the green colour (which is not paint, it's a picture of the 'greens' from Brigade Games' site) - or are you asking how they should be painted? ???
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When I first glanced at that picture, I thought these Askari were either late WW1 Belgian Congo Askari or British Kings African Rifles. The reason I thought that was because of the bare feet below the leg wraps and because of uniforms that look like they should be painted kakhi. The German and French Askari wore shoes, didn't they? I was somewhat reminded of the post WW1 Kenyan police that appeared in the "Heat of the Sun" detective series, though their shirts were dark blue. Here is a bigger picture from the Brigade Games Historical "The Ends of the Earth" line:
http://www.brigadegames.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BG-EET050&Category_Code=BGHMEE&Product_Count=35
Having looked at that bigger picture, I noticed the tassel on the fez. That could be filed off, though. If those figures were intended to be Italian Askari, as some of you state, I'll take your word for it. But given the placement in the Brigade Games line, it seems that BG intended them as some sort of "generic" askari. I personally would be comfortable using them in late WW1 or post WW1 Congo or East Africa, but that's because I'm not a stickler for perfect uniforms, and don't know these particular uniforms. Will search the Brigade Games Yahoo Group for past messages on these figures...
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they are Somali askary 1930, from Askary miniatures USA.
but what kind of paint they have on ?
Piero
Are you asking about the green colour (which is not paint, it's a picture of the 'greens' from Brigade Games' site) - or are you asking how they should be painted? ???
no thanks I know how to paint , pic is not clear and I tough they were from Askary min.
after more clarifications they seems belgian Askari .but I'll check as I was not sure about the equipment they have.
Piero
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still thinking they are Somali askari :)
Piero
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still thinking they are Somali askari :)
Piero
From the links to Italian Askari pictures that you posted in Colonial Adventures, I totally see your point!
Warren
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And if they are Somali, would they be in the service of Italy or Germany? Or Britain?
Pardon my ignorance, but this late colonial period is not one of my main points of historical knowledge (hope to delve deeper into it through my pulp gaming, though...).
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And if they are Somali, would they be in the service of Italy or Germany? Or Britain?
Piero is saying Italian Somali askari. They would have been used by the Italians in Ethiopia in the mid 1930's and in early WW2. Here is page 2 of one of the links which Piero posted on the Colonial Adventures forum, with paintings of the Italian Somali askari about mid way down the page:
http://www.ilcornodafrica.it/fs-cart2.htm
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Have to say these figures look a lot like the British King's African Rifles, when they were wearing their fancy looking red tarboosh instead of the floppy hats or low pillbox hats they often wore on campaign during WW1:
http://www.chakoten.dk/cgi-bin/fm.cgi?n=699
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what they really missed is the sash, which is a must for the Italian Askari and for them more important than a flag, was a distinctive of their status.
I received yesterday some posts from brigade games forum and seems that they are generic askari . we need the help from Lon Weiss.
Piero
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Theoretically, the sash could be added with a dab of greenstuff.....
Well, I'll have to study this period some more :)
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Askari Miniatures do some very nice Italian Askari's and I feel certain Nigel at Anglian will add some to his Abyssinian range at some point too.
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Nigel mentioned to me some more add, Dubat one of the new, I hope some more figs no available at the moment.
Piero