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Title: Ice Toad painting guide: page 4 (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 08 November 2015, 05:03:32 PM
I'm starting to get some of the models from my recent kickstarter campaign painted and photographed. Here are some pics of the first Giant Toads to be completed. Painted as Fire and Ice Toads.

Ice toad clan.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20ice%20toads%201_zpsxdeswntu.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20ice%20toads%203_zpsvbnv09hq.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20ice%20toads%202_zpsc8d62ecb.jpg)

Fire and Ice toad.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20fire%20and%20ice%201_zpskvceiuxf.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20fire%20and%20ice%202_zpsoesoq1hz.jpg)

And the first Toad I sculpted back in '07 and previously available from Tengu Models.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/p%20toad%20king%20tengu%20toad_zps58vfufzz.jpg)

I currently working on getting the kickstarter orders processed, packed, and sent out. After that I'll be launching a new website for the company and these models along with the others from the campaign can go on general sale.

Cheers

Iain
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: Arundel on 08 November 2015, 07:31:32 PM
Those look wonderfully nasty, Iain. I love the teeth on the first specimens. Excellent work with the painting as well!

Daryl
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: Harwood Hobbies on 08 November 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Awesome sculpting and painting Iain!   :-*
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: BlackWidowPilot on 08 November 2015, 08:31:56 PM
These figures just shout "BRRRRRAAAPP! RIBET!" (Which is Giant Toad for, "You human! You what's for dinner!"). :D


Excellent sculpts and excellent brushwork. Where were these back when I played Dungeons & Dragons waaaay back in my youth?! :D
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: Schrumpfkopf on 08 November 2015, 08:44:11 PM
Bah - I missed these. How can I buy a set or 2?
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: majorsmith on 08 November 2015, 11:08:33 PM
These are brilliant
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: blackstone on 09 November 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Cheers! These will be available once the kickstarter pledges have been sent out. So towards the end of the month/ early December.

Thanks

Iain
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: Revfan on 09 November 2015, 04:56:59 PM
NEXT time you make some frog skulpts.

Make some with hobbit feet sticking out of the mouth... or a hand reaching out with a mace trying to bash the frog!
Title: Re: (Toad King Castings) Giant Toads
Post by: Rhoderic on 09 November 2015, 05:04:26 PM
Love them, sculpts and paintjobs both!

NEXT time you make some frog skulpts.

Make some with hobbit feet sticking out of the mouth... or a hand reaching out with a mace trying to bash the frog!

 lol
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: DowVooVoo on 09 November 2015, 10:05:30 PM
nice job!
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: BlackWidowPilot on 10 November 2015, 03:42:03 AM
Indeed, a new fantasy take on an old American classic (just swap the frog for a hobbit with a mace, and the egret for a giant Ice Toad:

(http://a398.idata.over-blog.com/0/41/29/66/never_give_up_small.jpg)


I like it. lol
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: missfifi on 14 November 2015, 07:59:28 PM
I've just painted (actually my second ever painted figure) your first toad. I loved painting him, he was a challenge because I'm still such a novice 😊


missfifi
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 15 November 2015, 01:02:56 PM
Great stuff! Welcome to the hobby. I can remember the second mini I painted was a Citadel Lesser Goblin way back in the early 80's. The first was also a Lesser Goblin, you got two of them in a 40p blister rather than just one normal goblin. :)
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Harwood Hobbies on 15 November 2015, 08:10:05 PM
You're showing your age Iain!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 15 November 2015, 10:02:54 PM
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You're showing your age Iain!
Aye no escaping it :)

Here are some pics of a few more Fire Toads. I've got one more toad, a Boss Toad, painted up in this colour scheme but he was wet with varnish so didn't make it into the pictures today.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toads%2004_zpslvjg73hp.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toads%2005_zpscfjfqddv.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toads%2006_zpsutovrul1.jpg)

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 16 November 2015, 09:00:24 PM
Some pics of the Boss Toad model.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20giant%20toad%20Boss%20Toad%201_zpsvkrkuvyh.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20giant%20toad%20Boss%20Toad%202_zpsjqnhm2cn.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20giant%20toad%20Boss%20Toad%203_zpsvy8kkwhx.jpg)
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Timotl on 16 November 2015, 10:46:41 PM
Fan-flipping-tastic! When does the KS ship?
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 16 November 2015, 11:01:44 PM
I've made a start on getting some of the pledges posted out. Hopefully I'll have everything posted by the end of next week!

Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: **GS** on 17 November 2015, 08:15:31 AM
The toads are brilliant, can't wait to get mine!

Cheers
GS
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on 17 November 2015, 02:15:03 PM
Superb sculpting and superb painting!
(I envy you...)
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: majorsmith on 17 November 2015, 03:08:25 PM
Love em!
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Zaheer on 17 November 2015, 08:17:25 PM
Excellent models. (Your facebook page has got me humming the theme tune to that Cane Toads documentary!)
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: fairoaks024 on 18 November 2015, 10:23:28 PM
Mine arrived today, beautifully cast miniatures, superb models,
No one who backed this is going to be disappointed

Thanks very much Iain

Regards

Jim
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: MetalKingStudio on 19 November 2015, 05:18:48 AM
I love these. Those turned out awesome. I can't decide whether I like the fire or ice paint scheme better.
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 22 November 2015, 06:51:06 PM
Thanks for the comments! I had a couple of requests for a toad painting guide so took some WIP photos when painting the Boss Toad in fire toad colours. Here's a quick step-by-step guide.

Paints used for the skin are Vallejo Bloody Red, Hot Orange, Orange Fire and Elf Skintone for the skin.

Step One. Base the model and prime using a good aerosol primer. Then give it an even basecoat of Bloody Red.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%201_zpshxcnhprh.jpg)

Step Two. Once this has dried wash the whole model with a mix of black/sepia ink or paint, or use something like Army Painter Dark Tone. Once this is dry give the whole model a drybrush with Bloody Red. This will give the skin depth, shade areas like the mouth and eyes, and bring out some of the bumpy texture of the skin. (Tip: Paint the warty back area of the toad pure Bloody Red. This will give the best contrast when the warts are painted dark.)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%202_zpsdfrwboa6.jpg)
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%204_zpsqnqeqkwj.jpg)

Step Three. Start to drybrush the underside of the toad in the lighter shades. Layer the colours by starting with a 50/50 mix of Bloody Red/Hot Orange, then pure Hot Orange, followed with 50/50 Hot Orange/Orange Fire. Continue like this until you're left with pure Elf Skintone. As the mixes get lighter start to paint only areas like the feet and throat/lips. The lightest colour Elf Skintone would be used on the lips and and of the ends of the toes only.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%205_zps9rq2xiql.jpg)

Step Four. Paint the teeth then work on the eyes. Paint the eyeball Plague Brown and paint an interesting pupil shape in black. Add a small amount of white to the Plague Brown and paint random dots around the eye. Paint progressively lighter dots concentrating on the edge of the pupil. The end result is a toad like eye.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%206_zpstj7s8bv7.jpg)

Final Stage. Pick out the warts with a mix of Gory Red/Royal Purple followed by Royal Purple and then some dots of Royal Purple/Black on the top of the warts. Finish off the base then varnish!

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20fire%20toad%20painting%207_zpspwfuauzi.jpg)

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Garanhir on 23 November 2015, 11:06:52 PM
Wonderful.
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Vermis on 26 November 2015, 10:52:55 AM
A parcel arrived. I was scratching my head about what it could be and where I heard the name 'I. Colwell' before. Then I opened it and it turned out to be a box of frogs.

(https://45.media.tumblr.com/807d3cac4f64573fd794a32859b17b0c/tumblr_mrh5lwIGIi1qcga5ro1_500.gif)

Lovely stuff. :) Really excellent casting.
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 26 November 2015, 04:59:15 PM
A parcel arrived.
Our postie is getting increasingly nervous from me running at him with a hopeful smile everyday...  o_o
Soon....soon...
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Thew1 on 26 November 2015, 05:04:24 PM
Gutted I missed this kickstarter  :'(

They look absolutely superb and thanks for the painting guide. That fire toad paint scheme could easily be adapted to other warty monsters methinks  :D
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 26 November 2015, 08:26:58 PM
Thanks for the comments. Problems with the Stirge casts has held up posting out a lot of the reward packages but I have the Stirges now. Barring an unforeseen calamity packages should be in the post by next week. :)

Once all the parcels are sent these will go on general sale along with the other models from the ks.

Thanks

Iain
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: nullBolt on 26 November 2015, 10:57:42 PM
These are great. I want more sickly things for my nurgle daemons and toads and slugs are the best for it.

What sort of price point are you going for?
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: beefcake on 27 November 2015, 03:32:41 AM
I'm really looking forward to getting mine. I hope they don't turn out to be a mishapen heap when they arrive though as it's really hot here at the moment. Not Australia hot but still hot.
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 27 November 2015, 09:11:36 AM
The postie just handed me a little square package. I guess I'll be rinsing resin tonight.  :D
I couldn't help opening the package quickly and taking a peek. They look excellent! Absolutely lovely sculpting. Clean neat castings, no bubbles or other casting imperfections, they need no work to be ready for paint. Love 'em! :-*
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: dartfrog on 29 November 2015, 01:48:57 PM
I eagerly await my frogs and slugs. Back up for my Eureka frog army  ;D
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: randycarter on 29 November 2015, 07:44:49 PM
Great tips, it look a quite fast technique. Thank you very much forma sharing!
Title: Re: Giant Toads (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 03 December 2015, 08:07:36 PM
Thanks for the comments!

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I eagerly await my frogs and slugs. Back up for my Eureka frog army
Shouldn't be too long now!

Here are some pictures of the Giant Slugs that were sculpted during the campaign. After a bit of research, and looking at all the wonderful colours slugs come in, I went for a rich brown/orange colour scheme. (Vallejo Dark Fleshtone/Beasty Brown/Orange Fire/Off White. Black was used to darken the eyestalks and paint the pupils). A few coats of gloss varnish gives a really nice slimy wet looking finish.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20slugs%202_zpsjfwrzhu8.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20slugs%203_zpssvoxr6ke.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20slugs%204_zps3fmfjrzn.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20slugs%205_zpsahy18sdb.jpg)

And a scale shot!

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/28mm%20slugs%20scale_zpszhzphi3f.jpg)

Thanks for looking!


Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Rhoderic on 03 December 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Poor martial artist can't seem to catch a break!

Those are some very convincing-looking slimy monstrosities. Well done.
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: beefcake on 03 December 2015, 11:55:43 PM
Very nice.
I got my toads a couple of days ago. They look awesome. So what are you making next?

(love the skull piles too)
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Vermis on 03 December 2015, 11:59:38 PM
Blimey. Those are a bit too good. :-X ;D
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Neldoreth on 04 December 2015, 04:47:48 PM
Cool stuff. I love the shiny skin on the slugs. Have you considered doing that with the frogs too?

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Psychoflexible on 04 December 2015, 05:13:32 PM
Very realistic paintjob well done !
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Mason on 04 December 2015, 06:26:32 PM
Great painting on all those slimy nasty beasties, sir!
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Hobgoblin on 04 December 2015, 07:42:34 PM
Astonishing! These are brilliant - and, while the gloss varnish is used to specific and tremendous effect here, it does support my thesis that all miniatures look better in gloss!  ;)
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 06 December 2015, 11:57:12 AM
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it does support my thesis that all miniatures look better in gloss!
Couldn't agree more! Gloss varnish has an effect where it increases the perceived tonal range of paint making the darks darker and the lights brighter. I brush varnish everything and, even though I use matt, it goes through that initial glossy stage where the colours just pop!

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Have you considered doing that with the frogs too?
Yes when I was gloss varnishing these I did look over at the toads and they looked a bit wrong sitting there all perfectly matt! But I'm thinking when something gets very cold it has that matt frosting and really hot coals or fire is pretty matt so maybe that's how the fire and ice toads should look. The toad eyes will get a lick of gloss though. That always has a nice effect.

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So what are you making next?
I have a little selection of creatures and terrain bits in the pipeline once all the ks parcels are sent out. That'd be after the new website is launched though. :)

Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Andym on 07 December 2015, 01:06:20 PM
Are you sure you've sculpted them?......they look real to me! ;) I think you've just superglued slugs from your back garden onto some bases! lol
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on 20 December 2015, 08:34:01 PM
*shudder*

If a miniature model makes me shudder, I think this is the highest praise I can give to a sculptor and painter...

Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 30 December 2015, 02:41:36 PM
I painted my first of the Kickstarters mini's today, thought you might like to see it, Blackstone:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_002.jpg)

Thank you again for making these wonderful miniatures! He was an absolute joy to paint up, felt like I barely had to do anything, he almost painted himself.
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: nullBolt on 30 December 2015, 04:27:44 PM
I painted my first of the Kickstarters mini's today, thought you might like to see it, Blackstone:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_002.jpg)

Thank you again for making these wonderful miniatures! He was an absolute joy to paint up, felt like I barely had to do anything, he almost painted himself.

Nice try.

I know that's a frog you've just taken a picture of.
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 30 December 2015, 05:30:03 PM
Nice try.

I know that's a frog you've just taken a picture of.

Heh, nope:
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_004.jpg)
 :D
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: nullBolt on 30 December 2015, 09:45:01 PM
<snip>

You are very good at keeping that frog still.
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 30 December 2015, 09:54:39 PM
The trick is to drown a fat fly in booze, feed it to the frog and wait 2 minutes. You have to be quick then, because after 3 minutes it either throws up or falls asleep with a goofy expression...  ;D
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 03 January 2016, 09:40:41 PM
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/Warhammer%20Quest/Generic%20Dungeoneering/Monsters/WP_20151230_004.jpg)

He's great. Love the brown and tan skin colour and the eye is very realistic. Did you give it a gloss varnish?



Have a few pics of the stirges from the campaign painted up. These were based with 0.8mm brass rod for flight stands singularly and in 2's, 3's and 4's. Will make moving them around a bit easier in an encounter!

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/TKC_stirges_L_zpsv6hrx75c.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/TKC_stirge_attack_L_zpst0kqgmcf.jpg)
Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Modhail on 03 January 2016, 10:03:49 PM
Did you give it a gloss varnish?

Yup, painted the eyes in a mix of brown and (gold) metallic, adding more metallic towards the location of the pupil. The very edge of the pupil is actually a grey metallic colour. Tweaked it a bit with orange and red glazes and painted in the pupil. Finished it off with two layers of gloss varnish.

I really like the way you painted those stirges!
Title: Re: Stirges page 4. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Steam Flunky on 04 January 2016, 03:28:54 PM
Terrific thread!
Great ideas and great painting.
Title: Re: Stirges page 4. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: DeafNala on 04 January 2016, 06:57:54 PM
The Stirges are cute little suckers...GREAT color choices, bases, & brushwork. VERY NICELY DONE!
Title: Re: Stirges page 4. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: Shaved Dwarf on 04 January 2016, 10:39:27 PM
The Stirges are cute little suckers...GREAT color choices, bases, & brushwork. VERY NICELY DONE!
Well, I cannot add anything to this praise...
Title: Re: Stirges page 4. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 05 January 2016, 08:36:55 AM
Thanks for the comments! The stirges were painted up in 1st ed ad&d colours. Rusty red body, yellow legs and eyes and a pink proboscis!

Quote
painted the eyes in a mix of brown and (gold) metallic, adding more metallic towards the location of the pupil. The very edge of the pupil is actually a grey metallic colour. Tweaked it a bit with orange and red glazes and painted in the pupil. Finished it off with two layers of gloss varnish.
I'm going to give this method a try. The eye is totally convincing! :)

Title: Re: Stirges page 4. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: blackstone on 22 January 2016, 09:32:47 PM
The new website was launched recently with a little guides section. Already added was the Fire Toad guide from this thread. I'd had a few requests for an Ice Toad painting guide and finally got round to making one! For those interested read on...

Step One: Paints used are Vallejo and the colours are Night Blue, Pale Yellow, Off White, and Blue Ink for the skin. For the eyes Scrofulous Brown, Pale Yellow, and Black. After priming the model mix Night Blue and Off White to a cold pale blue and paint a base coat on the toad.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/1_WW_zpsdih1ghjm.jpg)

Step Two: Once the base coat is even begin to paint the underside and the legs in a progressively lighter tone. It's difficult to see in the WIP photos but adding a little pale yellow to these lighter areas works very well.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/2_WW_zpscysafynh.jpg)

Step 3: At this stage the inside of the mouth is messy so mix up a darker blue tone and paint this in the mouth. Then the teeth can be picked out in lighter tones.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/3_WW_zpsb1lzhuzx.jpg)

Step 4: Next use little blue ink to wash the rear of the toads legs and back. Provides a little more contrast in the blue colours.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/4_WW_zps1zpzj2xm.jpg)

Step 5: Continue painting the pale underside and legs of the toad in lighter colours. You can see in the picture below that the models is starting to look like my original Ice Toad.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/5_WW_zpswijzpr4h.jpg)

Step 6: So far the warts have been left alone. Now paint them in a lighter colour layering up to almost pure Off White on the extreme highlights. (This stage could be done when painting the other light areas).

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/6_WW_zpsjiimrqeg.jpg)

Stage 7: The eyes were painted in a similar way to the Fire Toad although paler this time. I used Scrofulous Brown, 50/50 Scrofulous Brown/Pale Yellow and then Pale Yellow. Once the pupils have been painted on a bit of lighter contrast can be painted on the very edge of the pupil.

All that remains is to paint the base and tidy up the base edge, matt varnish, and the model is finished.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii125/_koboldmage_/ice%20toad%20multi_W_zpslkvvxzi8.jpg)

Thanks for looking!

Title: Re: Giant Slugs page 3. (Toad King Castings)
Post by: YPU on 22 January 2016, 09:46:08 PM
I painted my first of the Kickstarters mini's today, thought you might like to see it, Blackstone:
<snip>

Had to inform my girlfriend people were in fact not posting pictures of actual frogs, but painted models.  lol