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Title: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 01:04:46 PM
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The Red Shadows have some new toys to play with :D




Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: marrony on 22 November 2008, 01:28:06 PM
Excellent stuff! Baron Ironblood's finest.Ahhh the memories.Very well done. :D
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: majorsmith on 22 November 2008, 04:53:03 PM
Blood! blood for the baron!!! cracking!! lovin this in large amounts!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: area23 on 22 November 2008, 05:24:53 PM
Brilliant fig.

The underground network of red shadow supporters had already notified me about your post on the SD-forum. :)

All the Alt-/Weird WW2 figs are becoming interesting for Red Shadow Projects.
I'm eyeing the Westwind SoTR bits and zombies for my Shadows project.
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 06:27:41 PM
Blood! blood for the baron!!! cracking!! lovin this in large amounts!

lol thanks and thanks for the Ma.ks, i had to change the grill tho
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Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 06:32:21 PM
Brilliant fig.

The underground network of red shadow supporters had already notified me about your post on the SD-forum. :)

All the Alt-/Weird WW2 figs are becoming interesting for Red Shadow Projects.
I'm eyeing the Westwind SoTR bits and zombies for my Shadows project.

i have some Renagade mini Germans and some green stuff, see how they turn out..
Westwind make some great stuff, had my eye on there stuff too..

sculpting a Kraken at the mo, almost done.. ill post it when its done , see what you think
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: majorsmith on 22 November 2008, 09:11:13 PM
the grill looks 100% better, what did you use?
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 09:16:33 PM
the grill looks 100% better, what did you use?

I used a an old 1/35 tiger tank brass detail set, they come in very handy for jobs like this..
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: majorsmith on 22 November 2008, 09:20:15 PM
i might try to do one of these myself!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: white knight on 22 November 2008, 09:22:58 PM
That's the DBs.  ;D

Love the arm replacement as well.
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 09:35:37 PM
That's the DBs.  ;D

Love the arm replacement as well.

many thanks, but its your falt as much as Majorsmiths... you both keep posting such great Ma.k's you got me hooked.. its was the Captain America Ma.k that did it, pushed me over the edge...

ahhh yes the Scorpion Cannon.. a bit of putty and a capri-sun straw..lol
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: white knight on 22 November 2008, 09:37:38 PM
Nice!  8)

Do you have more figures for the Red Shadows? :)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: TadPortly on 22 November 2008, 09:38:12 PM
Excuse my ignorance but who or what is the Red Shadow?
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 09:41:59 PM
Nice!  8)

Do you have more figures for the Red Shadows? :)

I have one Ma.k, finished very soon(i hope).. just started cleaning up some Germans, ready for the big change, and sculpting a Kraken(almost done)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 22 November 2008, 09:45:05 PM
Excuse my ignorance but who or what is the Red Shadow?

This should help
http://www.bloodforthebaron.com/blood/Action%20Force.html

its a childhood thing :D
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: majorsmith on 22 November 2008, 10:47:20 PM
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There might be some 'not red shadows' on the market in the next few months but I can say no more

cool, im in for some!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Danny the Chimp on 23 November 2008, 12:01:53 AM
This is just gorgeous.

I'd admit to being jealous, but I'll just seeth quietly instead!  ;D

Looks really great. Want to paint me an army of them?  ;)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: commissarmoody on 23 November 2008, 07:17:29 AM
O this is some great stuff. ^_^
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Sinewgrab on 23 November 2008, 07:58:47 AM
The Red Shadows were far cooler than Cobra.

There might be some 'not red shadows' on the market in the next few months but I can say no more.  ;)

I don't know - I will always have a soft spot in my heart for them - that's what we need in 28mm. The forces of Cobra!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: white knight on 23 November 2008, 10:20:09 AM
Did you check out Soapy's Action Force project?
http://actionforcevsredshadows.blogspot.com/ (http://actionforcevsredshadows.blogspot.com/)

Some great stuff:
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_86hTciUsOAI/R8emFA_cVdI/AAAAAAAAAfo/nUFEJOVylC0/s320/red+shadows.JPG)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 23 November 2008, 10:56:42 AM
Did you check out Soapy's Action Force project?
http://actionforcevsredshadows.blogspot.com/ (http://actionforcevsredshadows.blogspot.com/)

Some great stuff:
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_86hTciUsOAI/R8emFA_cVdI/AAAAAAAAAfo/nUFEJOVylC0/s320/red+shadows.JPG)

Oh yes.. it was his blog that put me on the Red Shadow path, some great work!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: white knight on 23 November 2008, 11:32:54 AM
Yes. Foundry WW2. He's got lots more, including some figures sculpted from scratch.
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 23 November 2008, 12:11:31 PM
Having just had a look at the comic the artists did base the shads uniforms on those well dressed cads the Nazis.

the Action Force toys were a mini Action Man range that was rebranded...
the historical figures were repainted, sometimes with minor resculpts and rereleased as Action Force vs Red Shadows... hence the Muton being the deep sea diver figure, the Red Shadows being German Infantry, Red Laser was the US sculpt for Cobra Commander that Palitoy got on the cheap.... the relaunch then spawned the comic

am very keen on some not-Shadows... my attempts at converting some germans failed miserably.... who, what and when though?
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 23 November 2008, 12:16:47 PM
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1944/copyofpicture669oh7.jpg)

sorry muppetman, should probably have said that that is bloody fine... not a fan of the MaKs usually, but that works so well as something the Baron would have designed... top stuff...
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: muppetman on 23 November 2008, 02:45:22 PM
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1944/copyofpicture669oh7.jpg)

sorry muppetman, should probably have said that that is bloody fine... not a fan of the MaKs usually, but that works so well as something the Baron would have designed... top stuff...


Many thanks.. Great blog btw
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: dragonforge on 23 November 2008, 04:11:44 PM
Nice work, who makes the Ma.k suit by the way?
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Trysop on 27 November 2008, 12:03:52 PM
Hello,

I ended up following Soapys lead and using foundy WW2 germans as the basis for my red shadows. I had a good look about at other ranges and they still seemed to be the best to use as they were the cleanest looking minis (not too much extra sculpted on) and most like the original figures in terms of kit.

They only downside is that as they are an old foundry range they are  touch small, but really that is a bit of a non issue.

Now I need to get them painted!

Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: anevilgiraffe on 27 November 2008, 01:08:48 PM
I wanted better guns for mine though... rifles seem a bit meh... they had AK's in the comics and bazookas in the toys!
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Trysop on 27 November 2008, 02:18:41 PM
I wanted better guns for mine though... rifles seem a bit meh... they had AK's in the comics and bazookas in the toys!

I had similar thoughts about the weapons, but could not find any minis i could convert that had the right look for the uniform and webbing and had better guns

I thought the rifles would be less wrong looking on the mini than if I had gone with something with the right gun but wrong uniform and equipment. But it is a personal prefernece really.

I would love to see more pics of of red shadows made from other manufacturers minis to see how they turn out. I kind of fancy making some that are a bit more "realistic", but i had better finish what i have alreayd converted first!


Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: area23 on 27 November 2008, 09:51:25 PM
I can only show you my WIPs from Black Tree germans.
I think the submachine guns work well enough.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SNbjozRwSN0/R-WIaHNbGtI/AAAAAAAAAB8/f2gY93iy6G0/s1600/wip%2Bshadows.JPG)
More pics click here:
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_SNbjozRwSN0/R-WIjHNbGuI/AAAAAAAAACE/5ozlRJ2i-R4/s1600-h/wip+Baron.JPG)
They're a bit rough sculpts though, and look like cast from old moulds. I'd use Crusader too, but they're probably too small.
One hell of a job though, making the masks and helmets.
The Baron is a Copplestone B.o.B. german and two grenadier/Em4 skeletrons.
http://area-23.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Trysop on 28 November 2008, 10:08:13 AM
Those are looking very cool  :-*

Re-sculpting the heads on mine was bit of a chore, especially as the task grew from "I just need a squad of 10 to 15" to "why do I now have 40 to do" :o

Although I am pretty happy with the outcome, and it did improve my limited sculpting abilities, I really like you head mould idea and wish I had come up with something similar.

I plan on finishing up what I have done and after that may look at getting a few other German minis that have more interesting kit, I like the idea of a few in greatcoats and a few with heavier / different weapons too.

Thanks for the ideas
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Commander Vyper on 28 November 2008, 03:52:37 PM
Those are looking very cool  :-*

Re-sculpting the heads on mine was bit of a chore, especially as the task grew from "I just need a squad of 10 to 15" to "why do I now have 40 to do" :o

Although I am pretty happy with the outcome, and it did improve my limited sculpting abilities, I really like you head mould idea and wish I had come up with something similar.

I plan on finishing up what I have done and after that may look at getting a few other German minis that have more interesting kit, I like the idea of a few in greatcoats and a few with heavier / different weapons too.

Thanks for the ideas



Use them as a Vampire thrall force in SOTR  (Blood Red uniforms symbolising the bloodpact with the Vampire Junker Lords?

Just a suggestion? ;)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Trysop on 28 November 2008, 04:01:16 PM
To be honest what I am going to use them for, or as, is secondry to me just having them. Once I had seen Soapys blog I knew I had to have a Red Shadow force to help me relive my childhood in 28mm  ;)

Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: Commander Vyper on 28 November 2008, 04:06:42 PM
To be honest what I am going to use them for, or as, is secondry to me just having them. Once I had seen Soapys blog I knew I had to have a Red Shadow force to help me relive my childhood in 28mm  ;)



True, but it give's you an excuse to get more, plus have a pretty unique Weird World war force into the bargain.

Zombie shadows too!  ;)
Title: Re: Red Scorpion
Post by: white knight on 28 November 2008, 11:03:48 PM
They're a bit rough sculpts though, and look like cast from old moulds. I'd use Crusader too, but they're probably too small.

The Crusader Germans I have are at least as big as the BTD ones.