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Title: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Darkoath on 24 November 2008, 06:46:16 PM
I have been collecting resin bases now for several months and now have enough to finally do my entire zombie horde! :D

I don't have experience removing the cast on metal bases...  I am used to either slapping the miniature onto a metal washer and puttying over the base or using a plastic slotta base.

Removing a slotta base type bar is not going to be a problem... but I really need advice for removing the big bases that are integral to the sculpt.

Any advice or description of how to do it so the miniature looks good would be greatly appreciated! ;)
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Ray Rivers on 24 November 2008, 07:38:17 PM
I should think metal cutters and files (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/equipment/1/index.asp).

Amazing all the "tools" one accumulates working with minis...  ;D
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Schogun on 24 November 2008, 08:37:24 PM
Yep, metal cutters, file, x-acto knife. A grinding wheel helps (but be warned -- the figure gets really hot!).
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Zafarelli on 24 November 2008, 08:51:21 PM
I use a belt grinder. But use leather gloves, for the exact reason Schogun mentions.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Supercollider on 24 November 2008, 09:13:01 PM
Trusty Dremel and small metal files.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Darkoath on 25 November 2008, 01:32:38 AM
So remove the extra metal with the snips, grind down close to the "foot" of the model with the dremel/belt grinder, then finish up the close work with small hand files?
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: archangel1 on 25 November 2008, 05:19:11 AM
So remove the extra metal with the snips, grind down close to the "foot" of the model with the dremel/belt grinder, then finish up the close work with small hand files?

That's about it.  Be warned, though.  It's not too much of an undertaking if the metal has a high lead content but if it's pewter? Be prepared to exercise your command of certain Anglo-Saxon expressions! Make sure the cutters are of good quality.  They'll take a beating, otherwise.  (The voice of experience!)  Goggles might be advisable.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: vikotnik on 25 November 2008, 05:29:38 AM
It might be a good idea to cut upwards through the underside with a saw before using the cutters. You will prevent bending the legs outwards then.


Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: oxiana on 25 November 2008, 09:53:40 AM
Oh, and you need patience too! Removing bases has to be the one of the most tedious things going, so I do a couple at a time, then come back later, do some more, try to forget about it, come back...
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Overlord on 25 November 2008, 10:19:21 AM
I'm currently rebasing my Geezers miniatures.  I use a piercing saw for most of the work and leave a small "pin" on the bottom of each foot to ensure a secure bond between the miniature and the replacement base (Antenociti resin urban bases in this case).  Tidying up is done with needle files.

Care is needed.  I have already come close to taking off a lump from the tip of my thumb!  Spare blades are essential too, as you will almost certainly break the occasional one.

As Oxiana said, take your time.  I only do a few in any one session.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on 25 November 2008, 11:41:04 AM
The lazy boy approach is to just remove most of the base. Leave athe bit around the feet and between the legs, just trim most of the rest off with a pair of clippers. THen when you base up your models it helps having a lumpy uneven surface. Just butt your basing material up to the rough cut base bits. Easiest way by far....and easiest is often best!
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Dewbakuk on 25 November 2008, 12:04:45 PM
True, but it doesn't work on resin bases with the detail cast on. Which is the case I believe from the initial post.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Ray Rivers on 25 November 2008, 12:21:21 PM
leave a small "pin" on the bottom of each foot to ensure a secure bond between the miniature and the replacement base

Good point.

I do this as well.
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Orctrader on 25 November 2008, 01:24:40 PM
I use a razor saw – bought them from Heresy.

These are so sharp that only slight pressure is required.  I make sure that the cut is as close to the bottom of the foot/feet as possible.

Then I use a file.

Then I drill a hole in at least one of the feet.  File again to remove any burrs.

Cut a “pin” from a paperclip.  Apply superglue to hole in foot and insert pin.

Once dry, drill corresponding hole in base.

Now wash resin base in hot, soapy water and allow to dry.

Apply superglue to pin and every part of foot/feet that will come into contact with base and fix figure to base.

Check my galleries for many completed examples.  (Especially in "Pulp")

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/orctrader/index.html
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 25 November 2008, 01:42:08 PM
I use a razor saw – bought them from Heresy.

These are so sharp that only slight pressure is required.  I make sure that the cut is as close to the bottom of the foot/feet as possible.

Then I use a file.

Then I drill a hole in at least one of the feet.  File again to remove any burrs.

Cut a “pin” from a paperclip.  Apply superglue to hole in foot and insert pin.

Once dry, drill corresponding hole in base.

Now wash resin base in hot, soapy water and allow to dry.

Apply superglue to pin and every part of foot/feet that will come into contact with base and fix figure to base.

Check my galleries for many completed examples.  (Especially in "Pulp")

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/orctrader/index.html


That seems a remarkably easy process.

Unfortunately it involves razor saws, superglue, drills and "pins", so I'd better not try it  :(
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Commander Vyper on 28 November 2008, 02:50:34 PM
Where bases are bit thick, (Copplestone and TAG) I cut the plastic bases to fit then mount the figures flush in the bases using a hot glue gun and a few strips of plasti card.

I hate metal bases and especially when they're blatantly obviously bulging on the top of plastic bases.

If the base is thin and the model is well placed then I'll saw and pin like most others.

Cheers

The Commander
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Ramshackle_Curtis on 01 December 2008, 11:26:30 PM


I hate metal bases and especially when they're blatantly obviously bulging on the top of plastic bases.



The Commander


Ho ho, well dont buy any Ramshackle figures then! :D
Title: Re: Tips needed for removing a cast on metal base!
Post by: Commander Vyper on 02 December 2008, 01:33:05 PM


I hate metal bases and especially when they're blatantly obviously bulging on the top of plastic bases.



The Commander


Ho ho, well dont buy any Ramshackle figures then! :D

You're right about your sales pitch!

:)