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Title: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 06 December 2015, 09:14:54 PM
Greetings LAF,

I have been working (slowly) on the Swiss-Burgundian wars for the last few months. And I thought I'd start here with showing two vignettes I made somewhere last month after I got my required items at Crisis 2015.
One's a Swiss army standard bearer and the other is a Swiss champion showing off his best piece of cutlery.
Enjoy.
 
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CbAaZyRxJaU/VmSd22-pP5I/AAAAAAAAAUQ/BTqtkRlMg6M/s1600/SAM_1776.JPG)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fDHJc_HJuQ0/VmSd1-yZUvI/AAAAAAAAAU0/egftBuqSFfA/s1600/SAM_1767.JPG)

More picture's back at the blog;
http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/swiss-vignettes.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/swiss-vignettes.html)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: painterman on 06 December 2015, 10:43:44 PM
Nice looking Swiss on your blog - some great poses.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Captain Blood on 06 December 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Nice vignettes. Welcome  :)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: tyrionhalfman on 07 December 2015, 07:14:36 AM
Lovely characterful pieces. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 07 December 2015, 01:38:36 PM
Really nice work- the Perry Late Medieval stuff per say really lends itself to putting together a vignette.

 8) 8) 8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 09 December 2015, 08:37:03 PM
Thanks for the kind words, especially coming from some whose work definitely outshine mine  :)

While I'm still busy with the Swiss, I have also started with a Burgundian force to oppose them.
Of which I hope to have finished a small unit of pikemen by this weekend.

Cheers
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 11 December 2015, 02:13:57 PM
Looking forward to see what you come up with next Jericho :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 11 December 2015, 06:59:08 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JHQimxiX1fs/VmsIO1vgsAI/AAAAAAAAAVE/xZDqdgoXE24/s1600/SAM_1779.jpg)

My first Burgundian unit is finished.
More piccies here:
http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/burgundian-pikemen.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/burgundian-pikemen.html)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 12 December 2015, 10:27:31 AM
Nice  8) 8) 8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 20 December 2015, 03:54:31 PM
Today the artillery conquers while the infantry occupies  8)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gMQED3Rqud4/VnbJL5uY4xI/AAAAAAAAAXI/zwYdorPa6cE/s1600/SAM_1801.JPG)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-StD5nSZuFkM/VnbJMZFUO-I/AAAAAAAAAXA/aLjaeAPuACg/s1600/SAM_1806.jpg)

More to be found here:
http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/calling-in-artillery.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2015/12/calling-in-artillery.html)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 21 December 2015, 08:15:44 AM
Nice work mate  :-*

That gunner has obviously had his teeth whitened   ;) :D

Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 28 December 2015, 01:46:09 PM
That gunner has obviously had his teeth whitened   ;) :D

That's ColgateTM for you  :)

Currently I'm wrestling through two units of Swiss cavalry (2,5 of twelve completed) but I just hate painting horses.
Although I do love the look of finished horse units...

To make matters worse my attention keeps switching to the Burgundians; mercenary Italian crossbowmen actually.
And for these I have a few questions which I hope some have an answer for.

1. How would these Italians have looked in the Burgundian army of the 1470s?

2. A sort of follow-up on number 1. Would the Burgundian army of the early 1450s have looked similar to that of Charles the Bold? Or would it have still looked more HYW in style?

3. Could/Would a crossbowunit mix with handgunners on the battlefield? If so, should both types be Italian, or mixed mercenary nationalities or even regular Burgundians mixed in?

4. I have the command set and three crossbowmen of the old GW's Dogs of War 'Marksmen of Miragliano' lying around. Could these be usable for 1470s Italian mercenaries, or will they stick out like a sore thumb?
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 28 December 2015, 07:38:02 PM
1. How would these Italians have looked in the Burgundian army of the 1470s?

Here's some pics on my Gewalthaufen Blog of a game The Bodkins put on at Paritizan. Mainly David Imrie, Dave Andrews and Simon Chicks work:

http://gewalthaufen.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Berne%21%20Baby%20Berne%21

2. A sort of follow-up on number 1. Would the Burgundian army of the early 1450s have looked similar to that of Charles the Bold? Or would it have still looked more HYW in style?

By the later stages of the HYW, the early 1450's the armours and military styles would have been pretty much the same


3. Could/Would a crossbowunit mix with handgunners on the battlefield? If so, should both types be Italian, or mixed mercenary nationalities or even regular Burgundians mixed in?

This was probably the case so yeah, more crossbowmen than handguners.


4. I have the command set and three crossbowmen of the old GW's Dogs of War 'Marksmen of Miragliano' lying around. Could these be usable for 1470s Italian mercenaries, or will they stick out like a sore thumb?

To be honest I don't really know which one's they are but I think that most of the GW Western style Dogs of War units were more Renaissance based(?)

cheers,
Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 30 December 2015, 07:27:54 PM
Those looks like an awesome game, Darrell. Armies like that are only a dream for me, as I would throw in the towel much too soon  o_o.

Well, these are the Marksmen of Miragliano.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OH9GiWdNoSA/Uy2eyoHK24I/AAAAAAAAASk/sLps7Z1CI24/s1600/DSCF0067.JPG)

Their body even looks like one of the Perry's plastic mercenaries, decorated with bits and bobs.
Meanwhile I have found pictures of somebody who mixed them (with Front Rank mini's, I think) in his own Burgundian army.
Looks like they fit :D

(https://atelierrobin.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/051.jpg?w=800)

Finally I have a use for these figures after +- 15 years  8)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Atheling on 30 December 2015, 09:03:01 PM
Yeah, the mini's in the foreground are Front Rank. By the looks of things they mix quite well actually.

Usually, as long as the armours are contemporaneous a good paint job will do the trick :)

......and that brings me neatly onto your work- keep up the very good work!  8) 8) 8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Charlie_ on 30 December 2015, 11:01:40 PM
I'd be very interested in seeing how the Marksmen of Miragliano scale alongside the Perry WOTR range.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century
Post by: Jericho on 31 December 2015, 12:20:40 PM
I'd be very interested in seeing how the Marksmen of Miragliano scale alongside the Perry WOTR range.

Here's a quick comparison pic.
Never mind the paint, I just started work on them.

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z454/joerinator/SAM_1841_zpsr5nukqlp.jpg) (http://s1190.photobucket.com/user/joerinator/media/SAM_1841_zpsr5nukqlp.jpg.html)

Although the GW looks a bit smaller and chunkier, I think that with a decent paintjob they'll fit in with the Perry's just fine.
.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - new reinforcements 16-01-'15
Post by: Jericho on 16 January 2016, 12:26:37 PM
The newest recruits for the Burgundians, Italian mercenary crossbowmen and handgunners from Campobasso.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OQ-0KqlpZ1U/VpopsnnIA0I/AAAAAAAAAXU/_rp0GfhyFAI/s1600/SAM_1854.JPG)

More to be found here: clicky (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/01/italian-mercenaries-in-burgundian.html)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - new reinforcements 16-01-'15
Post by: Hu Rhu on 16 January 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Love the guy on the right.  Just the perfect designer facial hair for an Italian.  :D :D
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - new reinforcements 16-01-'15
Post by: Silent Invader on 16 January 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Very nice  8)

Love the guy on the right.  Just the perfect designer facial hair for an Italian.  :D :D

 lol Straight off the set of Da Vinci!
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - new reinforcements 16-01-'15
Post by: Jericho on 18 January 2016, 09:15:29 AM
Thanks chaps.

I'm just glad they at least have an Italian vibe about them  :)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Antwerp Crossbowmen 15-02-'16
Post by: Jericho on 15 February 2016, 09:47:54 PM
The newest troops levied into the ducal army.

http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/02/de-goedwillighen-antwerp-crossbowmen.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/02/de-goedwillighen-antwerp-crossbowmen.html)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0FUisUmTiaQ/VsIoRgcZJFI/AAAAAAAAAZI/vRStr3BHTBA/s1600/SAM_1866.jpg)

Next up Men-at-Arms-on-Foot:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H9xp1_dm05M/VsIoS_Ox4WI/AAAAAAAAAZI/f2sGVKXAVMQ/s1600/SAM_1879.jpg)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Antwerp Crossbowmen 15-02-'16
Post by: Berg on 16 February 2016, 07:42:36 AM
Nice work on the shields! Freehand?
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Antwerp Crossbowmen 15-02-'16
Post by: Jericho on 16 February 2016, 10:19:25 AM
Thanks! And yes, they semi-freehand as I used paper tape to make the crosses and other straight lines.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Antwerp Crossbowmen 15-02-'16
Post by: caveadsum1471 on 21 February 2016, 07:43:06 AM
They look great, it's nice to see that the gw  figures can work ok with the Perrys
 Best Iain
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 04 March 2016, 05:14:51 PM
They look great, it's nice to see that the gw  figures can work ok with the Perrys
 Best Iain

Thanks! I was quite suprised and happy they fit so well together.

The Duke has called upon his subjects and the first unit of noblemen have responded;

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WNLk3sW6VBM/Vtm6PHRBPYI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/ci3j_XCS-zU/s1600/SAM_1898.jpg)

They are a mish-mash of plastics but I think they turned out good.

More and some previews of the next units are here:
http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/03/dismounted-ordonnance-knights.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/03/dismounted-ordonnance-knights.html)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Arlequín on 04 March 2016, 11:54:01 PM
Nicely done, but the aspect of the photo makes it look like a kind of medieval rendering of the David and Goliath story.  ;)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: DCallan on 05 March 2016, 03:54:37 AM
Very nice.  I like the brushwork on their faces and your color choices.  Thank you for sharing Jericho.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Captain Blood on 05 March 2016, 11:45:16 AM
They look great. Really down and dirty.
I'm not normally a fan of painted eyeballs - they always look a bit clownish to me. But yours work really well. The chap second from the right really does look as if he's staring death in the face  :o :o :o

I also like the advancing swordsman with the bouche shield. I am so nicking that pose :D
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Charlie_ on 05 March 2016, 11:59:05 AM
Great work.

I also like the advancing swordsman with the bouche shield. I am so nicking that pose :D
Me too!
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: caveadsum1471 on 06 March 2016, 02:10:40 PM
Another nice unit, I like your muted colours, and your man's five o'clock shadow!
Best Iain
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 27 March 2016, 08:47:22 PM
Thanks for the comments, fellas.

Sorry it took so long to make a reply; flu got in the way, as did life as well as work  :-[

And about that shield, I stole the idea myself from Painterman.
One of his latest Coustiliers had such a shield slung on his back.
I merely adapted it into an attacking pose.  ;)
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Charlie_ on 27 March 2016, 09:08:52 PM
Where are the standing horses from?
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 27 March 2016, 09:44:45 PM
Where are the standing horses from?

Those are metal horses from Front Rank Miniatures, from their WoTR range.
http://www.frontrank.com/product-category/medieval/medieval-horses/ (http://www.frontrank.com/product-category/medieval/medieval-horses/)

They have three types of standing still horses; MH1, MH5 and MH6.

Front Rank is a bit bigger & bulgier than Perry but against the foot knights they do look
like strong warhorses capable of carrying a knight.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 27 April 2016, 07:49:52 PM
Started on this unit back in November only to finish it this week just in time for friday's game  :D

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h216nmzOe6E/VyEICPr9-lI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/synDR1e8Jbc5Nqj-yvV8DvnPjz7T4tILwCLcB/s1600/SAM_1970.JPG)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0PoXguH_mQI/VyEA9zB0jNI/AAAAAAAAAc8/APbIvgLWKW46XQQwtrF2bVUjMcyTY43BQCLcB/s1600/SAM_1973.JPG)

More pictures on the blog: http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/04/swiss-medium-cavalry.html (http://plasticwarfare.blogspot.be/2016/04/swiss-medium-cavalry.html)

My Swiss will get their first forays into combat this friday in a couple of small Kings of War games.
Against fantasy armies now, but I hope that the game fits well enough for historicals and this way get some others interested in it too.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: painterman on 27 April 2016, 08:00:17 PM
Nice work - they look convincingly Swiss!
Simon.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Charlie_ on 27 April 2016, 08:39:52 PM
Oh wow, fantastic! They really look good.
Title: Re: Jericho's 15th Century - Dismounted knights 04-03-'16
Post by: Jericho on 28 April 2016, 04:41:56 AM
Thanks, guys  8)