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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Father Primus on 08 January 2016, 11:15:11 AM
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Just decided to add some armor to my 28mm communist force.
Some cardboard, foam, wood and plastic buttons + bits from BFG, vikings and old Sherman tank.
Here we are step by step:
1. Internal "skeleton" made from foam.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12507654_897168313732006_6080437444543278849_n.jpg?oh=2e5a4eca6e864478728017b1b7b21bd2&oe=56FF3E7A)
2. Adding armor plating.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/535338_897169140398590_6044724647707471472_n.jpg?oh=646451239711c77a539ba208ab681f03&oe=5747EC30)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/1915976_897169777065193_5460008432627271856_n.jpg?oh=916cca1fc6cbcadfdeda1d32a92854d1&oe=5746A0A8)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12495170_897170747065096_2970066446163934345_n.jpg?oh=d6ecf71065768789e7581f73f4496cf7&oe=5748122C)
3. Wheels and small details: instruments, etc.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/6854_898115670303937_2666472914787808724_n.jpg?oh=24d28524f47a03863a4fc6e88a779cdb&oe=56FD8D54)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12509432_898115710303933_5959764542872883791_n.jpg?oh=52352e4d254085bcaef95867279adfd9&oe=5703E9FE)
4. And finally, painted red Austin!
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12401012_898801143568723_1124977670106399374_n.jpg?oh=71cb7e3d8ff79809a1b856f4e1137d56&oe=57016BCB)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12509289_898801166902054_657815416162244063_n.jpg?oh=bc7059a1d366601e08e8d6f537dfbdb3&oe=5707625C)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12510398_898801180235386_2123173124366602760_n.jpg?oh=ddf983bb29da2c860485314930098dd8&oe=5741E5F6)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12509493_898801186902052_5825781289466611701_n.jpg?oh=132621ab7694f2233d535d53dbdc3af2&oe=5741FD67)
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Wonderful! :-*
Great scratch-building, you could have a whole squadron of them, if building one is that easy ;)
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That is an excellent scratch built armoured car.
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Wow! Fantastic! Nicely done! :-*
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You do make it look easy! Very well done build. :-*
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Thank you!
Austin AC has simple design, the most difficult part was to make curved armored plates (my cardboard was hard to bend :?).
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Astounding! :o
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Superb work and the foam for the core shape has given me inspiration for a project of my own. Thanks for sharing!
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Nice work there! Nice paint too
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Wow :-* :-* :-* now THAT is model making ! Top work - Love it
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Thank you for showing the work-in-progress shots of this great scratch-built model.
Superb.
Tony
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It would be great, if my work inspires somebody))
As I mentioned, WWI-period armor has simple design, but can be tricky sometimes... I have a plan to make Garford-Putilov, but that monster of a truck will, certainly, be much more time consuming.
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A man after my own heart. :D
Lovely build and one of my favourite Armoured car series,
If it's any help I pre curve card by running it between my thumb and the side of my index finger( near the knuckle ) you'll find it a lot more forgiving when you place it on your model or try to make a turret. Even more so if you do this before you cut the shape out.
Look forward to seeing your next project.
Mark.
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That is really good would love to see more...
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Great scratch build
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Great work with a very nice paint job :-* :-* :-*
LB
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WOW! Great piece!
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Отличная работа! :-*
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Looks like you took a page out of Tin Shed's book, with terrific results. Nicely done!
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Looks like you took a page out of Tin Shed's book, with terrific results. Nicely done!
What book would that be?? :D
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A little advice for the manufacture of rivets.
In shops for needlework and manicure you can buy micro beads. Perfect for imitation rivets. Just we paste bead on a drop of PVA glue.
(http://biserklass.ru/image/cache/data/1290-500x500.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8wCDPveVThI/T4QxHFD1eNI/AAAAAAAALsk/EJb_Gmgjbxo/s1600/IMG_8988.JPG)
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Cardboard is king! what a stunner very well done. BUSTED.
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A little advice for the manufacture of rivets.
In shops for needlework and manicure you can buy micro beads. Perfect for imitation rivets. Just we paste bead on a drop of PVA glue.
(http://biserklass.ru/image/cache/data/1290-500x500.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8wCDPveVThI/T4QxHFD1eNI/AAAAAAAALsk/EJb_Gmgjbxo/s1600/IMG_8988.JPG)
I like to drill a small hole (slightly smaller than the bead) for the bead to fit into.
Tony
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Nail bead idea is great for rivets, see you can get different sizes too, so could be used for variety of scales.
Ironically they look 'orrible on nails why would any women want that is beyond me...
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Now I'm far too lazy to go with Tony's method effective though it is. lol
I like the styling of your card model as it has clean lines and just the right amount of weathering and dirt for my taste.
For me speed and a less is more approach is key for my card models so I either don't add rivets and leave the paint scheme to suggest detail.Or I use an older method of PVA glue dotted on with a cocktail stick.Which works well for me on 20-28mm 'scaled' models.(the trick is to mark out small groups of rivets with a pen((round about 10 - 12 at a time)) and dot PVA over the pen marks then repeat once there dry on the next section ,this way you only place rivets where you want them ,also you don't miss any out or smudge the ones you've just done).
I'm looking forward to the Garford -Putilov build, as it's a difficult build ,the circular shapes are unforgiving and very much in plain sight .( I've heard tell there is a mystical combination of profanities once uttered by the modeller will instantly render his work complete and devoid of glue finger prints.If your anything like the rest of us you will try to find this long forgotten combination at least once during each build. Alas no one has found it ,though we try :D)
Mark.
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Best rivets I've found are Archer Fine Transfers. They are a clear decal sheet with 3d rivets on in rows, a bit fiddly but give excellent results.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/IMAG0523_zps293a1951.jpg)
(http://www.archertransfers.com/ASSETS/AR88pictures/AR88032.gif)
Warning once you discover them everything gets rivets...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/2013-12/20131216_215106_zpsa1frrej5.jpg)
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Cracking!
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Best rivets I've found are Archer Fine Transfers. They are a clear decal sheet with 3d rivets on in rows, a bit fiddly but give excellent results.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/IMAG0523_zps293a1951.jpg)
What is this wonderful looking beast?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_mm_mortar_M1939_(Br-5)
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Super scratch work. You make it look so easy!
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What book would that be?? :D
Oh, Tin Shed Gamer builds loads of stuff out of cardboard. Just check the threads created by him. :)
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What is this wonderful looking beast?
B4 203mm Howitzer
More here:
http://www.warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=9002
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Thank you. A piece of artillery I would love to find. Wonderful work!
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Thanks - it's a bit of a monster for 6x4 boards but has form for being used at point blank in Berlin...
(http://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/direct-fire-203mm-soviet-wwii-urban-combat.gif)
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Father Primus,
Have you done other period scratch builds? If so I'm sure ,I'm not the only person who'd love to see more examples. As your choice of colour scheme is interesting . I would love to see if it's a styling that's carried through into a full gaming force.
Too Bo Coo,
Fram's right I do spend far too much time gluing cereal packets into odd shapes.No book as such but I have been talking to Wayne at Wargames illustrated and I'm now scratching my head in the middle of writing an article or two on WW1 scratch builds at near zero cost.
Mark.
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The recoil on that monster is terrifying... great build.
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Thanks - it's a bit of a monster for 6x4 boards but has form for being used at point blank in Berlin...
(http://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/direct-fire-203mm-soviet-wwii-urban-combat.gif)
Cheaper than a bulldozer to level a city!
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Father Primus,
Have you done other period scratch builds? If so I'm sure ,I'm not the only person who'd love to see more examples. As your choice of colour scheme is interesting . I would love to see if it's a styling that's carried through into a full gaming force.
Too Bo Coo,
Fram's right I do spend far too much time gluing cereal packets into odd shapes.No book as such but I have been talking to Wayne at Wargames illustrated and I'm now scratching my head in the middle of writing an article or two on WW1 scratch builds at near zero cost.
Mark.
I'm a huge fan of your work, I know it well. I got excite for a moment thinking that you had a book with all of your secrets! :D
Cheers!
Erik
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Father Primus,
Have you done other period scratch builds? If so I'm sure ,I'm not the only person who'd love to see more examples. As your choice of colour scheme is interesting . I would love to see if it's a styling that's carried through into a full gaming force.
Mark.
In fact, this is my +/- first scratch-built model )) more will follow.
Color scheme was totally experimental: I used mix of Vallejo Gunship Green + Green Olive, with some highlighting and using watered down Burnt Umber as wash to create shading on armored plates.
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Hell of a start sir!
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For another source of rivets you should try Micro-Mark in the US
http://www.micromark.com/o-scale-decals-with-raised-3d-rivets-and-other-surface-details,9967.html
Much cheaper than Archer - you get two A4 sheets with many patterns and lines go for the 'O' Scale ones
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I could never actually find them when i wanted them.
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Rich H,
I take it as read,this is one of your commissions (keep bumping into them lol)
Any of your commissions have there own threads?
Mark.
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Just the ticket for a new year offensive :-* :-* :-*
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Rich H,
I take it as read,this is one of your commissions (keep bumping into them lol)
Any of your commissions have there own threads?
Mark.
Most of my stuff is over on Warlord's forum: click on the pics on the below link and it'll take you to the build threads: http://www.warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10505
;)
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Father Primus,
I'll keep an eye for your future builds,Your colour scheme isn't one I'd use myself As the Austins in my collection are Series 3& (1918)3's and required a more conventionally expected colour scheme as they were used for advertisements. Although a lot of my work is commercially available (including my Austins) I'm fan of scratch builds.
Yours is a nice blend of re used model parts and recycling of card. Infact no one has ever noticed the 1918 used in the adverts isn't actually the product its 40% card ;) I'd not even made the master when the advert was due (made the master and the advert model at the same time ((you can tell by the rear mud guards))which is a similar method to your own,So it's a method that works and with practice no one will know how you made it(unless you tell them).
Fram mentioned that I'd done the odd card model,So I popped a new Thread on the 'Workbench' with some of last years card builds, it's intended to be a place to pick my brains (feel free too :)) and a place to swap ideas and for people to post there own scratch builds if they want too.and to chip in ideas or ask how on earth to start a project.I hope you take a look and add your own thoughts.
Right back to your paint scheme ,while I'm waffling on I'm actually trying to think of a project just so I can have a crack at using it.
Mark.