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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Sardoo on 26 January 2016, 04:10:00 PM
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I'm increasingly using Vallejo paints and I wondered if anyone can point me towards a table / chart which indicates which paints should be used to shade and highlight each separate colour. I've searched around on-line but can't seem to find anything.
Any help gratefully received.
Thanks
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Hi!
I do not know if such chart does exist, but I also use Vallejo almost exclusivly and I add Black or dark brown to darken the colours and add pale Sand or ivory for the highlights. This way I get exactly the Right nuances. I know it is not the answer you wanted, but if you will give it a try you will See it works.
Cheers
Jan
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Will give it a try - thanks!
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I don't think there is such a thing with Vallejo.
However, Vallejo does have the game colour series and the model colour series. And maybe with the model series there are some tables. But I am pretts sure Vallejo does not have something like these triads as with Foundry or such.
The model series is more for historical painters with quite a good range. The game series is very close to the older GW names and palette.
Be careful, when mixing both series, some mixes go separate again quick!
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Be careful, when mixing both series, some mixes go separate again quick!
Really? I wonder why that is. Just been buying lots of VMC paints lately to complement my VGC ones, so I hope that's not going to be a problem.
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Some vallejo paints have a tendency to separate quite quickly, I have one or two, that, even if I paint two weekends in a row, have separated into pigment, carrier and fluid. A quick shake or stir fixes it right up.
I've been mixing the various ranges of Vallejo for quite a while, never had any problem with. Some do separate when mixed, especially when thinned or cut with a medium, but a quick swirl fixes that right up
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I'm sure I have list of all/most of the Foundry triads with an estimate of the nearest Vallejo equivalent. It was put together by someone on the Steve Dean forum.
John
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I think the little leaflet for the Game colour range has some suggested colour triads on the reverse side, I have never tried them though.
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...add Black or dark brown to darken the colours and add pale Sand or ivory for the highlights...
That. And with other brands too. Often I add just white for highlights.
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Thanks for the info / suggestions folks!
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Charts are downloadable for vallejo ranges
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/downloads
The game color chart does indeed have some combination suggestions in it
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Perfect! Many thanks!
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It's also worth reading the Valkejo FAQS
http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/3125a70282d7ae1b26302b70f227e502/model-FAQS-CC001-rev03.pdf (http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/3125a70282d7ae1b26302b70f227e502/model-FAQS-CC001-rev03.pdf)
To mix Vallejo in the bottle you are supposed to roll it to redistribute the pigment, not shake it (probably for a more even distribution and less bubbles). For bottles that have really settled (I have some 6 year old paints) a good tapping of the base on the tabletop is helpful. Also though VMC and VGC have different viscosities (VGC has a tougher finish) both types can be mixed (I guess the separation on the palette is due to the different viscosities).
Btw, I recommend their undercoat: it dries very smooth even though I brush it on rather than spray.
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Well that's me feeling stupid for having put a stainless steel screw in every bottle so they'll mix better when I shake them.
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Well that's me feeling stupid for having put a stainless steel screw in every bottle so they'll mix better when I shake them.
I've also heard of people putting ball bearings into the bottles but Ive not done it myself. A couple of times I've popped the nozzle off and given it a stir to quicken things up. :)
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if i notice a vallejo paint has a tendency to separate, i store it lying down and every once in while, roll it over. it helps that they're next to the
beer basement fridge. not all of them do so those just get a little shake before use.
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I've also heard of people putting ball bearings into the bottles but Ive not done it myself.
Just make sure you don't use bearings that can rust as it may mess up the paint. There is a thread on Dakka Dakka about paint agitators (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240098.page) like lava beads and bits or metal sprue from miniatures.
-Audrey
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Just make sure you don't use bearings that can rust as it may mess up the paint. There is a thread on Dakka Dakka about paint agitators (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240098.page) like lava beads and bits or metal sprue from miniatures.
-Audrey
...and that's me removing those stainless steel screws from my paints again, because according to that thread, stainless steel does rust given time >:(
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Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting adding ball bearings to the bottles: I've never felt the need for myself :)
...and that's me removing those stainless steel screws from my paints again, because according to that thread, stainless steel does rust given time >:(
Yeah, stainLESS rather than stainFREE, though I don't think I've ever seen it rust in other use, just discolour. :)
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Good thing I only added the screws/bolts a few weeks back, and they're of the A4 (AKA marine / acid-proof) variety which is supposed to be "more stainless than stainless", if that makes any sense. Just checked my whites and they're unaffected so far. I won't be leaving them in, though. Unfortunately they're not magnetic so getting them out will be a hassle.
I'm aware this is nothing to do with the original topic anymore, but as the OP's question has been answered and the discussion on paint agitators is helpful in and of itself, I trust I'm not doing any harm.
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I've been using glass beads for nearly a decade and they do the trick.
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Here is a link I bookmarked a long time ago, perfect for this very question:
http://napoleonicwargamingadventures.blogspot.co.uk/p/vallejo-triad-charts.html
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Here is a link I bookmarked a long time ago, perfect for this very question:
http://napoleonicwargamingadventures.blogspot.co.uk/p/vallejo-triad-charts.html
Now that really is a Usefull link! Thanks for that.