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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Frostgrave => Topic started by: Lamilvelo on 27 January 2016, 06:06:17 PM
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Hey all just discovered Frostgrave and these forums. Slowly trying to get my warband together and will post pictures as I get it figured out. I've never really played a miniatures game so am a little lost on terrain. I'm thinking of buying some of the Pegasus gothic pieces but was wondering what people think about the paper stuff? I noticed Fat Dragon Games has their sets 50% off but I've never used any of it. Is it usable for helping to build up a table when starting out and also how hard is it to setup?
Thanks in advance and I have to say I love looking through all of your threads and getting ideas!
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A buddy of mine uses the paper terrain onto of a foam card base and that works really well. Has the advantage that you don't have to paint your terrain as well as make it.
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I'm not the craftiest person so I may look into more of the Pegasus and GW stuff to start a table. As a beginner what size do you make your boards? I'm thinking 1ft square.
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Depends on what you are wanting to do. Some people like 1ft square sections, but I personally do not like the extra gaps. On the other hand, larger setups require you to actually plan around where to store things, and can prove troublesome for transportation.
I am actually trying to sell my group on this sort of thing, so I am putting together a new set of terrain, and I'm hoping to document the process. So keep an eye out for that. But as a preview, since your location says Colorado, let me make a suggestion: you can buy a 2ft by 2ft piece of MDF at Lowes or Home Depot that can serve as a perfect surface. MDF is a bit heavy, but with the dimensions already figured out for you and the price being something like $6 US, it is a great way to get started for relatively low investment.
Regarding buildings, paper can look really good, but I'm in this for the hobby, so I've acquired some Pegasus and GW stuff myself. I'll be making other buildings from balsa and foamcore.
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You could also look into getting a 3x3 foot PVC roll mat table... I got mine done for around 20 sterling pounds and selected a decent mat from wargamevault. I chose Frost ruins.
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Welcome to the world of Frostgrave!
Ive seen loads of really great looking paper terrain,punted on foam core it looks pretty good and robust. If you end up looking elsewhere there are loads if bits of great and appropriate resin terrain from people like Scotia Grendal, Fenris etc. Caliver books also do some. And there are the Rendera plastic ruins of course. Or then again on these boards you'll see some amazing results with Aquarium bits and pieces and children's toys repurposed.
Loads of good options. Just have fun!
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Evenings
Im waiting on my mousemat 3x3 mats from urbanmatz - cant wait!
i've no experiance with Papercraft terrain, as i do like paint up my stuff.
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Welcome to the frozen city! (Colorado is one of my favourite places in the world by the way).
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Really appreciate all the tips. Been trying to catch up on some of your threads and blogs for ideas. After attempting a card stock basic cottage I think I'm going to have to go with some pre made stuff. I'm torn on whether I would like a mat or to do some boards. I'm waiting on my Reaper order for a few more mini's and hopefully I can get a game going.
Thanks for all the answers and hopefully I can post up some stuff soon.
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Don't forget about resin aquarium ornaments. Some are very expensive whilst others are very good value. I have 2 large and 2 small aquarium ruins (that's about one square foot's worth with lots of height too) that will make it onto my table for less than £25 (i.e. less than GW's Garden of Morr which I will also use).
Just remember to look at the measurements to see if the scale seems appropriate when ordering online.
Also wedding cake pillars, especially ones made of plaster, are almost compulsory on a Frostgrave table it seems.
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Yea I'm hoping to find some coupons or something for the local chain pet shops to find some bridges or what not. Great idea about those wedding cake pillars. Definitely going to check a hobby shop that has cake stuff in it.
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Hi Lamilvelo
I built my boards on 30cm squares and constructed most of my city with Pegasus and home made buildings...
I cannot rate the Pegasus stuff highly enough
Lots on my blog starting here
http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/frostgrave-terrain-part-2.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/frostgrave-terrain-part-2.html)
A few piccies...and before anybody asks NO I AM NOT ADDING SNOW
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/bv1_zpsqluwrzmc.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/bv10_zpswjmxfpyp.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/bv12_zpsrvcrdfxa.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/v1_zpsxr8etot8.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/b6_zpsbqivxdf4.jpg)
Good Luck
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I built my boards on 30cm squares and constructed most of my city with Pegasus and home made buildings...
Wow! I can't praise that enough, Eric! A really impressive and beautiful gaming board. Wish I could play Frostgrave with you. ;)
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Eric your blog is part of the reason I wanted the Pegasus buildings! May i ask how you made those boards with the cobblestone look?
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Eric, could you tell where you got the circulair building with the statue in the middle?
Really fell in love with that one!
sorry about the hijack btw ;)
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Eric, could you tell where you got the circulair building with the statue in the middle?
Really fell in love with that one!
sorry about the hijack btw ;)
I was going to ask the same thing!
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Eric your blog is part of the reason I wanted the Pegasus buildings! May i ask how you made those boards with the cobblestone look?
I assume you mean the paving stone look - its all here on the blog but basically its cut squares of eva foam embossed with a biro - it took hours !
http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/frostgrave-terrain-build-part-8.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/frostgrave-terrain-build-part-8.html)
cheers
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Eric, could you tell where you got the circulair building with the statue in the middle?
Really fell in love with that one!
I was going to ask the same thing!
I bought this on ebay for £20 but you can find new ones from here
http://www.ziterdes.de/ziterdes/en/produkte/article_detail.php?we_objectID=1461393&catID=64&subcatID=76
cheers
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Awesome thanks for the info. I guess I need to read older blog posts to see how some of your stuff was made. Went to a couple of Thrift stores this weekend looking for some statues or something to add but couldn't really find anything. Did get a couple of pieces from a pet store though that should help.
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you asked about paper terrain. You can do a lot with paper , I build my around a formcore , sore. here is a thread on this board with some pics.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=68118451edb717e3f8319d7bf2d34ec8&topic=86618.0
it is also fun to build :)
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you asked about paper terrain. You can do a lot with paper , I build my around a formcore , sore. here is a thread on this board with some pics.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=68118451edb717e3f8319d7bf2d34ec8&topic=86618.0
it is also fun to build :)
Thanks for the tips! I was also wondering if anyone knew where to get the Frostgrave Cultists in the US? I found FRP games and ordered the soldiers from them but can't seem to find the Cultists in the US. Two Pegasus buildings are put together but need to be painted. Started working on two Bones Cultists and just received my first Wizard and apprentice. Things are starting to come together and will post terrible pictures once the painting is finished.
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Brigade Games USA carries all of the FG line, including some "stand ins" from other lines.
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/ (http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/)
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Brigade Games USA carries all of the FG line, including some "stand ins" from other lines.
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/ (http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/)
Thanks for the link. I don't see the cultists there either. Did they discontinue them really fast or just not make enough?
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Thanks for the link. I don't see the cultists there either. Did they discontinue them really fast or just not make enough?
Check in the "Thaw of the Lich Lord" section:
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Frostgrave-Thaw-of-the-Lich-Lord_c_603.html (http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Frostgrave-Thaw-of-the-Lich-Lord_c_603.html)
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Thanks! I thought that was just for the book by clicking that hyperlink.
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You're welcome! I use the Brigade Games website all the time, but I will admit that it isn't really user-friendly. I would have put the Cultist box in the Soldiers section. Since the actual rules for the cultists are in the TotLL book, I suppose it makes sense.
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Bought some foamcore at Hobby Lobby today and am confused. Do you guys take the outer hard plastic off before using the stuff? Seems shiny and I'm not sure paint will stick well to it. Sorry this is the first time I've ever gotten around to trying to make my own terrain.
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Bought some foamcore at Hobby Lobby today and am confused. Do you guys take the outer hard plastic off before using the stuff? Seems shiny and I'm not sure paint will stick well to it. Sorry this is the first time I've ever gotten around to trying to make my own terrain.
The foamcore I use is a thin sheet of foam between two sheets of paper. Mostly, I leave the paper on, and seal in the foam when I get to painting.
Spray paint pretty much covers everything, anyway. :p
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The stuff I bought is sandwiched between thin plastic sheets. I'll give it a go and see what happens.
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Played my first game of Frostgrave yesterday and really enjoyed it. Both of our mini's were unpainted and we kinda threw some terrain together. We were doing combat wrong for awhile but once we got it figured out the game became a lot more dangerous. Can't wait to play again and hopefully get all the mini's painted for my warband. Thanks for all the tips
(http://i.imgur.com/74QFTsv.jpg?2) (http://imgur.com/74QFTsv)
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Where are those big statues from?
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Where are those big statues from?
Harry Potter chess set from like 2002. Primed grey and will dry brush to add to them. Stolen idea from someone else. Pretty easy to find on Ebay in singles or I managed to get the whole set for $15. Still need to add a base for height.
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Looks like your off to a good start.
As for the foam core. I peel off the "paper" or whatever it is. One or both sides, depending on how I'm gonna use it. It does give the foam some strength. Once you peel off the paper you can use a pen to carve it. It's very easy to work with. I get the really cheap stuff from the dollar store. Very easy to peel off the paper.
You can also use warm water to soften the glue on the paper.
Here's a design and stonework carved into a floor of a piece I made.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RcUzGMj427o/VsIgd5-amJI/AAAAAAAAFew/_l5Cs788NQU/s1600/20150826_203311.jpg)
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That is really cool! Finish it!!
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Your foamcore floor looks great -
Harry Potter Chess Pieces and Lotr Chess Pieces make great statues - prime black and then dry brush greys
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/v15_zpszmmlgsei.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Frostgrave%20Terrain/bv7_zpsogtkn6oa.jpg)
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Did you fill in the belly of the horse on your piece from Harry Potter? I was thinking of trying to cover it to make it look better.
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I just picked up the rules (pending delivery).
@Eric The Shed - for the win!! Fantastic idea!
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I've only played once but thinking back I'm starting to wonder if I need more height on the table. I had a couple of second story spots but that is all. Do you all find height to be important in your games?
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Played my second game of Frostgrave yesterday. Figured you only live once so I used Teleportation to get to other side of board to steal treasure. Forgot that I can use health to make up the numbers to cast a spell so failed teleportation 2 times and died to his apprentices bone dart. Figuring it wasn't that big of a deal I then roll a 1 to see what terrible fate befell my wizard. He's dead. Well Fitzgerald had a good run.
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Played my second game of Frostgrave yesterday. Figured you only live once so I used Teleportation to get to other side of board to steal treasure. Forgot that I can use health to make up the numbers to cast a spell so failed teleportation 2 times and died to his apprentices bone dart. Figuring it wasn't that big of a deal I then roll a 1 to see what terrible fate befell my wizard. He's dead. Well Fitzgerald had a good run.
Bards shall sing songs of Fitzgerald's glory (at a -1 to Will)!
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Ouch! Sorry to hear about the late Fitzgerald... in my case is the Captain that keeps bleeding me of gold with his random injuries, hurt on the last two scenarios and now I need to pay 100 GC to get him in the next mission...
Andres
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I had just finished painting him the night before! He taught me a lot about being aware of the rules ;) I did just receive a hot wire cutter and a 1/2 x 4x8 sheet of polystyrene so I'm going to attempt to learn how to make walls. Game is a lot of fun and I ordered up some new miniatures today. My new witch shall seek revenge~!
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Managed another game this weekend and I got my revenge! Started an Elementalist and managed to kill a few of my opponents war band and also make off with an extra treasure. Elementalist definitely had better rolls than poor Fitzgerald. Managed to get 3 levels so I'm only 3 back now of my friend.
Been trying to build some terrain and I'm just awful at it. Attempted a mausoleum out of foam core and basically built an non square box. Watched lots of Mel's terrain tutor videos but I'm starting to think crafting might not be my forte.
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Top Tip : Start small
Begin with something you can probably make and finish within an hour or two, like a low wall. Try that first. You will get better soon enough. Just don't try big buildings right off the bat.
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Love those plinths!
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Played another game this past weekend and managed to kill many of his thugs and his apprentice with my wizard. One question, do you guys notice that in a two wizard game almost every game ends with a few war band deaths and 3 treasure apiece? I only know one other person who wants to play so I'm trying to come up with a way to spice it up a bit. We do roll for random monsters when picking up treasure but other than that it's pretty straight forward.
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Played another game this past weekend and managed to kill many of his thugs and his apprentice with my wizard. One question, do you guys notice that in a two wizard game almost every game ends with a few war band deaths and 3 treasure apiece? I only know one other person who wants to play so I'm trying to come up with a way to spice it up a bit. We do roll for random monsters when picking up treasure but other than that it's pretty straight forward.
Use newer scenarios add a few monsters to the table to begin the game.