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Miniatures Adventure => SuperHero Adventures => Topic started by: obsidian3d on 27 January 2016, 06:44:01 PM
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Small announcement popped up on Facebook earlier today about a Marvel game from KM. It sounds like a different engine that the one used for Batman Miniature Game (and by extension, the Spiderman game).
Guardians of the Galaxy and X-Men are slated to be some of the on-release starter crews. I can't hit Facebook in the office, so links will have to wait.
And...discuss.
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This is more like it :)
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Ian reports that is a D8 mechanic of some kind over on his blog.
http://pressganger.blogspot.ca/2016/01/marvel-universe-miniature-game-intro.html
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Time for me to hit up the heroclix , I dont really want my young players with metal just yet...
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(KM has apologized for the way I was treated and, I suspect, let the people running the pages know they need to mellow out...the American Distributor actually went out of his way to help my LGS with restock when I mentioned it to him...THAT is how you get people back.)
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I am a self admitted Marvel fan. I have the Avengers Starter and have played a few small games. I LOVE this game! Great game mechanics. Great miniatures. Very cinematic. Lots of fun! I think Knight Models did a great job on this.
I don't play the Batman game. Not knocking it, but just not into it.
From reading on Dakka, I understand the Facebook Page and "Official Batman Forum" are run by fans, not Knight Models. Apparently they are overly protective and don't want "their" forum to be used to say anything they view as negative to the company or game.
But the game and miniatures are very cool. I play a lot of games, but I am very excited about this one! If you like Marvel Super Heroes, you owe it yourself to check out this game. I think you will be pleased.
Here is a link to a great blog that has a lot of great info on the game, so you can have a pretty good idea of whether you will like it before you buy.
http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/useful-35mm-dc-marvel-and-batman-game.html
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DC/Marvel; I can't decide. I like them both. I just started painting stuff for BMG and heard about Marvel coming down the pipe as I was doing it. I'm going to have to grab some of these as well at some point. It's the only way I'm going to get sufficient payout for working on a city terrain set by monkeying about with both :). I want to grab up a Doctor Doom and Thing if only for the pleasure of painting them.
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I have all the first wave Marvel figures but haven't had a chance to try the game out yet. Hoping to do so this month.
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with no restock and no communication from KM on when a restock is happening interest in my area has dried up.
I have been asking for better promotion of the game(s) for months...and just get met with Disdain...the 15th annual "Free Comic Book day" is happening all over the U.S. this Saturday and KM has not done anything to promote it's licensed supers games on this day...
we have 3 more summer "blockbusters" this summer...Civil War, X-men, and Suicide squad...KM has done nothing to tie it's games into any of the hype for these.
It's frustrating to be a fan trying to promote these games...between the bad communication, the horrible distribution (still) and the high prices there is no interest in these...
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And what is the deal with all the Marvel minis they have already made?
They don't even list them all on the Knight Models page. Dr. Doom, Magneto, The Thing, The Punisher....etc. etc. Where did they all go.
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I have a feeling there is a reason for the lack of North American support and advertising. My totally unfounded hypothesis is that they aren't allowed to actively advertise here. It's likely part of the agreement as heroclix is probably the culprit.
If there are models you're looking to acquire and you're in Canada or the US let me know. I might be able to help.
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I have a feeling there is a reason for the lack of North American support and advertising. My totally unfounded hypothesis is that they aren't allowed to actively advertise here. It's likely part of the agreement as heroclix is probably the culprit.
If there are models you're looking to acquire and you're in Canada or the US let me know. I might be able to help.
I appreciate the offer but I need a company that looks like it will support the game it produces :)
(Your not Endylon are you?)
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Shame about that; It looks pretty cool. My mail order of choice supports BMG fully but the stocks the Marvel models without rules for the new game to this point. It kind of feels like "boutique models" with no game support for the moment.
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I appreciate the offer but I need a company that looks like it will support the game it produces :)
(Your not Endylon are you?)
No I'm not.
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And what is the deal with all the Marvel minis they have already made?
They don't even list them all on the Knight Models page. Dr. Doom, Magneto, The Thing, The Punisher....etc. etc. Where did they all go.
I imagine they are being repackaged with the stat cards to be re-released
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From reading on Dakka, I understand the Facebook Page and "Official Batman Forum" are run by fans, not Knight Models. Apparently they are overly protective and don't want "their" forum to be used to say anything they view as negative to the company or game.
I think some of that comes from the DC/Marvel as well.
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That would go a long way towards explaining the abysmal job they are doing...but they seem to have near zero communication with the UK and Europe too...
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I've spoken with the guys at Knight in the past. Simply put, they're a very small team, with a very big licence, and only a couple of English-speakers on their staff. Their 'studio' is making cool stuff in the traditionally sculpted fashion, and they're putting it out as best they can, while finding their feet as they go.
Basically, if you want to hate on the little guy and stop supporting their product, it'll die. If you support them, they can expand, and the range will grow. Catch 22.
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Yeah I really think KM underestimated the demand they were going to get outside of Europe, particularly in North America, particularly with the release of their Marvel game. I'm not sure exactly how or why they underestimated it so badly, but hopefully they'll be able to catch up and gain some ground. They do make lovely figures, but the challenges folks face in acquiring it will definitely turn some folks away.
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"if you want to hate on the little guy and stop supporting their product, it'll die."
I have been banned from several "Official fan sites" because I offered honest constructive criticisms about the Marvel game in the weeks leading up to it's release...I did that because I want it to succeed. My criticisms were basically "It will be hard to get this game going if you support it like you do BMG...please show that you are going to handle this line better in the NA market". I was then told by the moderator of the Marvel FB page that I was a whiny troll...yes he attacked me after banning me. When I let the company know about this treatment of a customer I found it nearly impossible to communicate with the company...the only responses I got were dismissals and disdain...until I talked to the main U.S. agent they use who had much better customer service skills and apologized for my treatment.
At this point I jumped back into the game...after cancelling my $90 preorder I bought a starter at my LGS and found out they were having problems getting a restock...and here we are.
KM can't continue to produce a BIG license with small thinking...they need to increase their resources...especially in North America. When I asked why about the rumor of U.S. distributors dropping the game I was told "We send too many orders to USA." I suspect that is a bad translation of "we send plenty of models to the U.S." but it's the perfect example of why they need more agents in North America to represent the company...
Obsidian and I are on the same page...I really hope that KM "catches up" with the demand and success they have and are able to give these games the support they deserve.
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Here is a Thor I did for the game:
(https://i.imgur.com/INCul40.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tYPUJDR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mXLpZlh.jpg)
The figures were much nicer than the Frank Miller Batman I got from them which was pretty badly cast. None of these seem to have any problem with that at least. There was little cleaning to do, they are well sculpted and well cast.
The Thor figure came in a pack with Captain America, Black Widow and Iron Man. I'll get them done before June 30th.
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Excellent job dude!