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Title: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 10 December 2008, 10:30:37 AM
OK as I promised here´s the tutorial. You can build other trees with this method, I think autumn is good to see some "naked" trees.
This are the materials you will need:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/tutob002_r1_c1.jpg~original)

A: toillet paper
B: wire
C: spray paint (brown)
D: spray glue
E: white glue
F: fine sand
G: flock (I use NOCH Classic-Flock dark green
H: steel wool
I:  pliers
J: a wooden stick

I don´t know the english words for some materials, so feel free to correct me (e.g. "steel wool"  :smt001 )

Next part: Building the trunk
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 10 December 2008, 10:48:29 AM
Cut some wire stripes (ca. 20 cm / 8 inches)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/stamm1.jpg~original)

Bend the wire in the middle and twist it with the pliers and the stick.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/tutob001.jpg~original)

Use 4-6 stripes of twisted wire to create the trunk.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/stamm2.jpg~original)

apply white glue to the trunk (don´t cover the whole trunk. It´ll be too messy)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/stamm3.jpg~original)

Twist sheets of toillet paper around the trunk to hide the wire structure

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/stamm4.jpg~original)

Should look like this when you ready

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/stamm5.jpg~original)

Cover the trunk in white glue and put the sand on it. This will be very hard once dried.

Next: Flocking
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: commissarmoody on 10 December 2008, 11:08:57 AM
Vary nice
Title: Flocking
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 10 December 2008, 01:41:06 PM
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/krone1.jpg~original)

Take some of the steel wool and mount it on the top of the trunk.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/krone2.jpg~original)

Spray the top brown, make sure the paint goes "in" the wool. Let this dry.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/krone3.jpg~original)

Put some flock in a box. Spray glue on the trees top

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/krone4.jpg~original)

Press the tree in the flock, make sure you cover the whole top.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/snilloc_photos/krone5.jpg~original)

And that´s it. I paint the trunk with VMC Burnt Umber and drybrush with VMC Khaki and VGC Stonewall Grey.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Remington on 10 December 2008, 02:35:49 PM
I thank you in English as well!  :D Great tutorial.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Aaron on 10 December 2008, 02:42:41 PM
Interesting twist using the steel wool. I have done something similar in the past, but using a model railroad product that is already died green. It is sort of like a giant cotton ball, but the fibers are a bit more loose.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Rhoderic on 10 December 2008, 02:46:33 PM
Thanks! I was genuinely eager to know how you made your trees. This seems similar to the rubberized horsehair method then, but with materials that are more readily available. Just need to get hold of some fine-grain sand and flock of the "spongy" variety.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Hammers on 10 December 2008, 02:57:43 PM
We can do with one of these wire trees it.posts so I'm making it sticky for a bit.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Rhoderic on 10 December 2008, 03:29:38 PM
BTW, you could probably also do this with pipe cleaners in place of the wire. That way you might not have to mask the wire with toilet paper before adding the sand. If you want trees with a swampy look, you could even skip the sand as well. That way the trunks will look sort of hairy, which wouldn't be out of place in a swamp.

Just checked the grocery store for steel wool and as expected, they only had the soapy kind. I bought some just to see if I could soak/rinse the soap out. We'll see how that turns out.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 10 December 2008, 04:01:00 PM
The steel wool is for polishing stone and metall, may be you can get it in an art shop or builders market?
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Operator5 on 10 December 2008, 05:19:19 PM
I've been using steel wool for my trees for years. It's great stuff. And like the Lt said, don't look for the grocery store variety. Go to a home builder's store or any place that sells lots of home repair stuff. They'll have it.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Ray Rivers on 11 December 2008, 06:10:43 PM
Outstanding tutorial.

I really must try this out.

Thanks for your efforts, it's really appreciated.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Onebigriver on 11 December 2008, 06:18:08 PM
Excellent tutorial.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Rhoderic on 11 December 2008, 06:41:11 PM
Alright, a home repair store will be my next destination, I guess.

I did try soaking the soap out of the grocery store variety, but it started to rust quite rapidly. I don't know if that would have made a difference in the end, but it seems pointless to continue now that I know where to look for the non-soapy kind.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Captain Blood on 12 December 2008, 12:00:30 AM
Very useful. Thanks Lt Hazel... I shall try a few of those one day in the not too distant future.

Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 16 December 2008, 02:28:03 PM
Excellent tutorial Lt Hazel!

An alternative to steel wool is some of that plastic "pan-scrub" material used in washing the dishes. It's often used for hedges etc.

Although very dense and coarse as bought, it can quite easily be "teased-out" until it is quite soft and made to resemble fine branches in a very similar way to steel wool. I have had a problem with rust in the past with steel wool, due to a damp house I used to live in when some of my trees started turning orange and looking autumnal. It was very pretty, but not a good effect for the African bush :-[

It is a little more work with the scrub material, but the effect is just as good as with steel wool and has the advantage of being dark green, so you don't have to be quite so thorough with the brown spray stage. There is some dust created in the "teasing" process, so ventilation is probably recommended.

Any supermarket or local "corner shop" should sell packs of them very cheaply.

Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Grimm on 16 December 2008, 05:04:41 PM
you are a genius !! I will do that too !!!
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 16 December 2008, 06:00:04 PM
you are a genius !! I will do that too !!!

Grimm, I wish I were  :'(

Sadly, the truth is I picked it up somewhere, either on the web or from a terrain book.

Never mind, though, it makes a nice change from being an idiot - even if only for a few minutes  lol
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Le matou rouge on 16 December 2008, 07:34:27 PM
Never mind, though, it makes a nice change from being an idiot - even if only for a few minutes  lol

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XSXHm4vT4&feature=related

 ;)

meow,
Matt

PS : Lt, thank you very much for the tutotrial : that is the way I intent one day to do my future trees, I just miss the tip about paper toilet...
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Aaron on 16 December 2008, 08:04:43 PM
As I was searching  the craft store over the weekend for pot toppers and other suitable terrain stuff I came across something called "floral stem wire". It is simply florist's wire covered in a textured tan paper, used to make stems for artificial flowers I guess. I think it might save the messy glue and TP step, but I have not tried it myself yet.
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on 17 December 2008, 09:13:01 AM
Merci beaucoup, Matt!

I love that song and didn't realise there was a video on YouTube.

Wonderful stuff!  :D
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Rhoderic on 03 February 2009, 07:44:33 AM
I've been experimenting with steel wool (the proper, non-soapy stuff) now and I'm finding it a bit difficult. It seems to be the exact same stuff as in the materials picture, but I can't get it as fluffy as in the tutorial. It's also tricky to glue, I'm using PVA glue and it just gets soaked up by the wool, leaving precious little on the actual contact surface.

Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Lt. Hazel on 12 February 2009, 03:32:48 PM
I pull the wool apart till it´s fluffy enough. And I don´t glue it to the wire, just wrest it around. It works. Come to the Tactica and I will show you how to do  ;)
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: stuzzar on 25 February 2009, 11:07:53 PM
Have just seen the completed olive grove in another section and wondered if there was a tutorial on making the trees knocking about, glad o see that there is, very useful and very helpful, thanks very much.

Cheers

Stu
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Bako on 26 February 2009, 02:31:23 AM
Very nice tutorial. The use of steel wool must have leaked from my brain or something because I never would have guessed at using it for tree foliage :).
Title: Re: Olive tree tutorial
Post by: Shazam on 11 June 2009, 03:09:57 PM
outstanding a holiday experiment