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Title: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: joseph_curwen on 14 February 2016, 08:07:35 PM
Hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Perry Mahdists (both plastic and metal) and whether they could easily work as Muslim armies during the Crusades.
(I really don't care much for the Gripping Beast Arabs and am looking for an easy to bulk up my forces.)
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Firescale Whack on 14 February 2016, 11:29:34 PM
I have used some of the bareheaded guys with different shields for tribal levies, but only made a unit out of them. You will have to be abit more imaginative to bulk out larger forces.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: carlos marighela on 15 February 2016, 12:59:09 AM
Don't do what I did and buy the HaT 28mm figures, they're utter shite. I bought a box to bulk out opposition for Tangier. Fortunately they were bought for a fiver at a bring and buy, which is why I bought them in the first place.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: joseph_curwen on 15 February 2016, 01:17:56 AM
Cheers for the replies.
I've seen a few of the HaT models and can't imagine buying any.
I'll probably grab a box of the Perry Mahdist and, if I can't make them all work as crusades era then at least I can do them up as Sudanese rebellion era.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Firescale Whack on 15 February 2016, 05:50:41 AM
It's still a great buy either way as it has tons of bits you can use and depending how good you are with putty you could potentially use all the bodies for crusades era figures.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Atheling on 15 February 2016, 08:14:21 AM
I'm of the opinion that you might get away with it with some of the Baggara Horse (obviously not the mini's with firearms!  lol ) but I'm inclined to say that no matter which mini's you choose from the Perry Sudan range you will have a fair bit of putty work to do to make them have the first Crusade look.

Just my tuppence  :)

Darrell
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 February 2016, 11:21:23 AM
Few of the enemies of the crusaders were Arabs after the Fatimids had fallen.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Eric the Shed on 15 February 2016, 11:37:08 AM
I bought a load of the Hat cavalry and replaced the tiny heads with spare gripping beast arabs - really cheap and effective way of creating lots of cavalry...the horses and bodies are almost perfect matches for the gripping beast ones...

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/sARACEN%20ARMY/s7_zpsc1552b1c.jpg)

more here...

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/building-saracen-army-part-1.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/building-saracen-army-part-1.html)

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/sARACEN%20ARMY/D6_zpsosxeh6ut.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Atheling on 15 February 2016, 11:37:15 AM
Few of the enemies of the crusaders were Arabs after the Fatimids had fallen.

I'm not so sure..... Egypt was a great source of manpower. Would the house of Ayyub easily give up such a pool of men? I'm referring to rank and file types, essential in sieges etc, not solely to Mamluks.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Arlequín on 15 February 2016, 12:09:15 PM
I think he means Egyptians (and the majority of people in North Africa) are not 'Arabs' strictly speaking... likewise in the Levant. 'Arabized' perhaps, but not Arabs. 
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Atheling on 15 February 2016, 05:10:34 PM
I think he means Egyptians (and the majority of people in North Africa) are not 'Arabs' strictly speaking... likewise in the Levant. 'Arabized' perhaps, but not Arabs. 

Fair do's  :)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: valleyboy on 22 February 2016, 09:07:53 AM
I presume you've looked at Artizan? http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=17&cat=106&page=1
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: joseph_curwen on 23 February 2016, 08:35:33 PM
Indeed, I have!
I tend to think them a bit too bulky but I feel like I might end up with a few packs, anyway.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Engel on 24 February 2016, 09:08:04 PM
I used some for my Arabs.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dCMj_0CJcyI/Unqy0ven_rI/AAAAAAAAFsg/vBKIfrBJqoY/s800/P1000973.JPG)
http://kampgruppe-engel.blogspot.se/2013/11/saracen-light-infantry.html

It works but they would be better when mixed with other miniatures in a unit in my opinion.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Blofeld on 24 February 2016, 09:30:14 PM
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I bought a load of the Hat cavalry and replaced the tiny heads with spare gripping beast arabs - really cheap and effective way of creating lots of cavalry...the horses and bodies are almost perfect matches for the gripping beast ones...

Are the hat horses 28mm or 1/72 scale?
Thanks
Blofeld
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Hupp n at em on 26 February 2016, 12:20:30 AM
Are the hat horses 28mm or 1/72 scale?
Thanks
Blofeld

Well if you buy the 28mm ones, they should be 28mm.   :)   They actually put out some of their ranges in 28mm as well, which I believe is what Eric is talking about.  I would think their 1/72 are far too small.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Blofeld on 27 February 2016, 11:31:25 AM
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Well if you buy the 28mm ones, they should be 28mm.   Smiley   They actually put out some of their ranges in 28mm as well, which I believe is what Eric is talking about.  I would think their 1/72 are far too small.
Thanks! I had no idea they did 28mm, might have to look into getting hold of them, though 1/72 would be too small.
Thanks
Blofeld
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Hupp n at em on 28 February 2016, 06:28:47 AM
Thanks! I had no idea they did 28mm, might have to look into getting hold of them, though 1/72 would be too small.
Thanks
Blofeld

No problem, I think those kind of slipped under the radar for a lot of people.  I have always liked their 1/72 figures though, so I have kept up on them somewhat regularly.
Title: Re: Perry Mahdist for crusades era Arabs?
Post by: Blofeld on 28 February 2016, 02:21:20 PM
No problem, I think those kind of slipped under the radar for a lot of people.  I have always liked their 1/72 figures though, so I have kept up on them somewhat regularly.
Interesting, the pictures of them I've seen online look pretty good.
Don't want to hijack the thread but does anyone know of any UK stockists for the HAT 28mm minis?
Thanks
Blofeld