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Title: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 14, 2008, 01:57:04 AM
Hallo all,

Just now I obtained some photos of my first "Hochseeflotte" vessel.
It is scratchbuilt, with few ,yet, fittings from various manufacturers.

Crew figures and guns from Old Glory!

scratchbuilt, photo and painting by George "Bellifortis" Pistof. design and research by me.

However I would like to thank Plynkes for inspiration!
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/Photo16_17.jpg)


(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/Photo12_13.jpg)

the bridge:
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/Photo14_15.jpg)


the same can be figured as a tramp steamer:
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/Photo01_2.jpg)
 


She has no name yet, I am thinking something like:

Kurfuerstin Kunigunde von Sachsen, or
Markgraeffinn Dorothea von Brandenburg
[sorry no umlauts in my english keyboard]

Please free to comment and make any suggestions!


Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Poiter50 on December 14, 2008, 02:53:20 AM
I like that, very nice and versatile!!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Ray Rivers on December 14, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
 :-* :-*

She's a real beauty.

I like her a whole lot, and all the detail work that you did to make her look very realistic.  One darn good scratch built model, I gotta tell ya.

Well done!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Geudens on December 14, 2008, 09:31:08 AM
She's nice, but that's not really the point: what I appreciate most is the fact that you have succeeded in shrinking the length (for tabletop use), at the same time making sure figures can be placed nearly all over the ship AND maintaining a convincing look.

Congrats, I (nearly) feel sorry to have to pierce her hull with torpedos, but - on the other hand - I'm sure she will sink in style!  lol

Rudi
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 14, 2008, 09:32:59 AM
Superb! Excellent model, well-condensed. Makes a nice Kanonenboot to go with your Politik.

One thing, though, it´s "Der Anfang", not "Die Anfang".
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Lt. Hazel on December 14, 2008, 10:43:37 AM
Nice boat! Go for "Sabine von Leutheusser-Schnarrenberg" as a name  ;)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Helen on December 14, 2008, 11:41:25 AM
Cool ship Arg!

 8)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: AKULA on December 14, 2008, 11:50:12 AM
Really really nice model - one comment though - too clean.

Needs some rust streaks, or a few scratches down the hull, to give it a bit more depth/character, maybe a few bits of stowage, tarp, ropes hanging over the side (so as to not cut down on the space for figures).

Very promising though.
 :)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 14, 2008, 11:56:22 AM
Thanks all for your comments.
She's nice, but that's not really the point: what I appreciate most is the fact that you have succeeded in shrinking the length (for tabletop use), at the same time making sure figures can be placed nearly all over the ship AND maintaining a convincing look.

Congrats, I (nearly) feel sorry to have to pierce her hull with torpedos, but - on the other hand - I'm sure she will sink in style!  lol

Rudi

In fact it was shrink to fit my storage place!

Superb! Excellent model, well-condensed. Makes a nice Kanonenboot to go with your Politik.

One thing, though, it´s "Der Anfang", not "Die Anfang".

you are right. I made the change in the title.
[after 30 years I am forgetting my german]

Really really nice model - one comment though - too clean.

Needs some rust streaks, or a few scratches down the hull, to give it a bit more depth/character, maybe a few bits of stowage, tarp, ropes hanging over the side (so as to not cut down on the space for figures).

Very promising though.
 :)

in fact I like the very clean models. for the rest i have planned to add some more fittings and maybe more weapons. however I run out of money and needs to wait ...
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Plynkes on December 14, 2008, 12:20:49 PM
Oh, she's a beaut. A great sister ship for the Elke (and her alter-ego the Denture).

In fact, with all those lovely little bits of detail, she's nicer than mine, you rotter! Top job. :)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Grimmnar on December 14, 2008, 12:36:59 PM
Hey howdy there.

I was curious, is it modeled after a specific "Hochseeflotte" ship or just an abstract scratchbuilt ship? :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 14, 2008, 12:47:33 PM
Hey howdy there.

I was curious, is it modeled after a specific "Hochseeflotte" ship or just an abstract scratchbuilt ship? :-)

Grimm


mostly after Plynkes Elke I think!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: odd duck on December 14, 2008, 12:56:37 PM
That is a great looking model :o :o and definately well thought out lots of detail with out sacraficing playing space, I'm very impressed and intend to steal as many ideas from it as possable!! lol lol
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Grimmnar on December 14, 2008, 12:58:28 PM
mostly after Plynkes Elke I think!

Couldnt find anythign on that.
I did however find this link. http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/index.html     :-)

Grimm
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Remington on December 14, 2008, 01:03:39 PM
Nice one, compatriots! And you built that with all the distracting fires in town, which makes it an even more remarkable piece of work.  :D I must admit that I am positively impressed by the Old Glorys.

Kurfuerstin Kunigunde von Sachsen would be my favourite name.
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Westfalia Chris on December 14, 2008, 01:04:26 PM
mostly after Plynkes Elke I think!

Couldnt find anythign on that.
I did however find this link. http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/index.html     :-)

Grimm


"Plynkes´ Elke" refers to the most excellent and hilarious games posted by our much-esteemed Plynkes on his blog. "Elke" was a German *ship class that most befits the scenario*, herself being named after actress Elke Sommer.

You can find the game reports over here:

http://misterplynkes.blogspot.com/search/label/Africa
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Plynkes on December 14, 2008, 01:17:28 PM
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/Creating%20the%20Denture%201.jpg)
The Elke is a merchantman (previously called the Prinzessin Charlotte) converted into a Commerce Raider in the Great War.

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/Creating%20the%20Denture%202.jpg)
But by removing the guns, and changing her flag she became...

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/Creating%20the%20Denture%203.jpg)
The S.S. Denture, shabby tramp steamer that conveyed our Pulp adventurers...

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/04%20Denture.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/05%20The%20Film%20Crew.jpg)
...to Big Monkey Island, where they got up to all sorts of exploits. It's all on the blog somewhere.

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7781/2193/400/07%20The%20Native%20Village.jpg)
Argsilverson's baby is clearly much more beautiful than my tub (which I must admit, I didn't actually build myself anyway), but I'm glad if I had some small part in inspiring her creation.  :)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 14, 2008, 02:10:08 PM
That is a great looking model :o :o and definately well thought out lots of detail with out sacraficing playing space, I'm very impressed and intend to steal as many ideas from it as possable!! lol lol

be my guest!

Argsilverson's baby is clearly much more beautiful than my tub (which I must admit, I didn't actually build myself anyway), but I'm glad if I had some small part in inspiring her creation.  :)


thanks Plynkes. Yours is actually an inspiration to me. even the colour scheme is of yours.

However I must again advise you that I have not actually built it.
George Pistof did that for me. George is a professional model maker and painter of miniatures. He does that for living. I hope to portray some more of his work in a future thread in other adventures board, to show you his remarkable work creating a diorame with several hundreds of painted miniatures, depicting the walls of Constantinople. A diorama commissioned by Athens war museum. In fact I am waiting for some photos from him!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 14, 2008, 02:15:32 PM
Some more photos here:

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Ray Rivers on December 14, 2008, 02:32:51 PM
Some more photos here:

http://s320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/

This is a great shot, it's a bit blurry, but you can see all the details...  :-*

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn335/argsilverson/hochseeflotte/Photo07_8.jpg)
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: gamer Mac on December 14, 2008, 05:25:51 PM
Great model.  :-* :-*  Nice crew and weaponry.
I get extremely jealous of all you people with these great ships. Every time I see one it nudges we closer and closer to trying my hand at my own.
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Die Anfang , the start
Post by: Le matou rouge on December 14, 2008, 08:37:29 PM
Wow, Arg' ! You rarely post pics, but you should more often : they are lovely  :-* 

She's nice, but that's not really the point: what I appreciate most is the fact that you have succeeded in shrinking the length (for tabletop use), at the same time making sure figures can be placed nearly all over the ship AND maintaining a convincing look.

Can't say better  ;) All the details reflect the attention you have for her.

And about the names, Dorothea is nice ( without the pomp  :) )

meow,
Matt   
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Saya on December 15, 2008, 02:25:25 AM
 :-* :-* :-* :o :o :o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Argonor on December 15, 2008, 09:52:32 AM
 :o :o 8)

Did you use cardboard or plasticard?
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 15, 2008, 10:18:14 AM
:o :o 8)

Did you use cardboard or plasticard?

plasticard
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Argonor on December 15, 2008, 10:31:27 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: argsilverson on December 15, 2008, 03:10:59 PM
Thanks all for your kind comments.

Something I forgot:
The admiral, sitting at his map table is inside the bridge cabin!
Bridge cabin has wheel, voice pipes, compass [alas non working!] analogue meteorological displays [actually printed on paper] and telegraph. She lacks a helmsman, trying to locate a suitable figure.

My future plans includes: to enrich her with more fittings like: a/a mg , shells and cartridges, life boats, firefighting hoses and hydrants in red, food lockers.

If it is difficult maybe a new vessel will appear. [my plans include 4-5 more vessels to compliment my  "Hochseeflotte"]. I suppose that can be also used for some pulp era adventures, either armed or unarmed.

   
Title: Re: Meine Hochseeflotte-Der Anfang , the start
Post by: Admiral Benbow on December 15, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
Just saw your splendid ship today - brilliant!
 :-*