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Miniatures Adventure => Weird Wars => Topic started by: tnjrp on 09 March 2016, 07:10:50 AM
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...is now "Paolo Parente’s Dust 1947". And Paolo's new partner (one assumes for more than GAMA trade show floor space) is Ninja Division of Relic Knights fame.
http://www.dustgame.com/news_d.php?id=282
That's a bit too succinct to work as a basis for speculation about what direction the game will take but I suppose we might know more after GAMA.
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I don't play Dust, but am a follower of the game for years, the setting looks great and for what I've seen, the miniatures look detailed and have a very cool weird war feel.
I am looking forward to hearing more about this restart of the game.
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It's a real kick in the can than a bunch of the images contain models that were funded by the Operation Babylon KS campaign. Models that I am still owed.
I'm sure people will be in for this, but I'll be staying away.
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Love the models, but I use my own rules to run games with them since I don't like the boardgame feel of the, well...boardgame! I hope they can continue producing stuff.
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If I am correct, they make a skirmish variant of the rules, this is also something I prefer as a wargamer.
You have Dust tactics the boardgame, Dust battlefield the skirmish game and dust warfare the large scale wargame.
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I'm not sure about Dust Tactics Battlefield being the skirmish option, actually. It has much simpler (and reasonably solid, give a take a few weird terrain related issues that may have been FAQed ages ago) rules than Dust Warfare so it should work with larger forces. The rulebook may say something about upper limits thereof of course, can't recall that ATM.
No idea what of the old DT/DTB/DW trichotomy this newly branded version will feature tho. Could be anything from "names may change but the faces stay the same" to a complete revamp for all I know.
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On the youtube channel of thedicetower there is an interview from the gama tradeshow ( you need to watch part 3), they show the new axis starter and say the new 2.5 rulebook will be a free download and physical copy in april.
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Seems like Ninja Division is not in partnership with Dust and posted something about it on their site.
http://ninjadivision.com/clarification-regarding-recent-announcement-of-ninja-division-and-dust-partnership/
I guess they saw how the game jumped from publisher to publisher and they don't want to get mixed up with it.
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Seems like Ninja Division is not in partnership with Dust and posted something about it on their site.
http://ninjadivision.com/clarification-regarding-recent-announcement-of-ninja-division-and-dust-partnership/
I guess they saw how the game jumped from publisher to publisher and they don't want to get mixed up with it.
Well the OP's link and the link I quoted seem to be at odds or am I just not reading them correctly?
Seems very strange.
Grimm
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Strictly speaking, Paolo's site's news item doesn't explicitly say that the partnership with ND extended to more than GAMA floor space. Looks like it didn't but I wasn't the only one who though it a possible interpretation.
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Wait, have they even fulfilled the previous kickstarter yet ...or were people just given their money back?
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Wait, have they even fulfilled the previous kickstarter yet ...or were people just given their money back?
They have done the first two waves and that has been it so far. I think that they are still in the process of taking Battlefront to court.
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The new rules have been intermittently available for free download since yesterday. Intermittently, because apparently the demand has overshot the ability to provide at various places o_o
This seems to be the best place to hunt for the latest working mirror of the latest version (there are at least 2 already):
http://forum.dust-monthly.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=551bde66a16cb339fc7d10b523f30259&topic=191.0
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"Final version" is now available at the official page's downloads section:
http://dustgame.com/downloadfile.php
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The rules may be evolving but I'm not as sure about the miniatures. But then again, I suppose there has been a lack underboob bikini bimbos with bazookas in the minis line tho so... o_o
http://www.dustgame.com/products_d.php?sid=28&id=722
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Products from the KS keep on popping on Dust Studio's website yet the campaign backers are still waiting for the pledges to be fully delivered.
Two years late and complete silence since last December from both companies.
Last update announced that they had reach an agreement and promised that the production of the various missing items would take about 120 days.
I guess the decided to sell them online instead of shipping them to those who already paid for it...
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Two years late and complete silence since last December from both companies.
Last update announced that they had reach an agreement and promised that the production of the various missing items would take about 120 days.
I guess the decided to sell them online instead of shipping them to those who already paid for it...
Sounds like Jarek and crew at Prodos.
lol
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Selling to public before supplying KS backers is getting more common it seems.
The ex Rackham team behind the "Drakerys" game KS have just announced they will be selling direct at Gencon before any backers have received their pledges.
Another one of the "warning signs" to account when considering which KS projects to back in future.
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I can understand that a basic core box can reach retail before it reaches the backers because it's simpler to distribute a single boxed game to a large number of retailers that completing each and every unique KS orders as each one is different, but when it comes to stretch goals and optional add-ons, I think that backers should be supplied first since they funded the production in the first place.
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Well Dust is quite deadish around me... No one wants even to try it. Not to mention this KS fiasco I am also part of. Still have a lot to recieve. If at all we will recieve something. But those two companies - Battlefront and Dust will never ever have a cent from my money!
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Now turns out that Dust studios haven't actually shipped anything out yet as part of Wave 3 due to another dispute with Battlefront regarding supplying KS stuff to MM in the US! Lot of mud slinging going on, on the various FB pages. Absolutely unbelievable. I think DS have really dropped the ball now.
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DS is trying to bring back some shine to their already tarnished image by pretending that they're holding the stock for the backers and to prevent it from being sold to an online store, but at this point they just look like they're just holding the stock from the backers once again. Do we even know if the stock is actually ready to go? With them it's "the stock is on the boat" one day and then it's "the stock is still in the warehouse waiting for yet another agreement" the next day.
With so many KS projects outsourcing their miniature production to the DS factory, business is still booming, so who cares if their own KS backers have to wait a little bit more. What's a few more months after two years?
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Miniature market has ALL of their DUST stuff marked out of stock so maybe their "Dust exclusives" deal blew up. I don't see anyone else online retailing the game. I think if you want Dust now you go to the Dust site or ebay.
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I can understand that a basic core box can reach retail before it reaches the backers because it's simpler to distribute a single boxed game to a large number of retailers that completing each and every unique KS orders as each one is different, but when it comes to stretch goals and optional add-ons, I think that backers should be supplied first since they funded the production in the first place.
CMON sent out their main box sets of Zombicide Black Plague so they landed before Christmas of 2015. Seemed like a classy move. I think the rest of the stuff landed in may of 2016.
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Miniature market has their Dust stuff marked back in stock. I guess it was a "temporary pause" sort of thing.
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Is there a summary or timeline of all of the Dust related drama? I wasn't following it at the time and it's a bit confusing to figure out what happened.
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Is there a summary or timeline of all of the Dust related drama? I wasn't following it at the time and it's a bit confusing to figure out what happened.
Here's a rough timeline of this whole mess:
05/20/2014 - The Kickstarter is launched
06/09/2014 - The kickstarter is funded
09/03/2014 - The pledge manager is finally opened
12/04/2014 - Wave 1 is shipped
02/2015 - Trouble starts between both companies who accuse one another of going back on who is supposed to pay for the "freebies".
05/2015 - Wave 2 is shipped which constitutes parts of the paid stretch goals. The freebies are still in dispute.
12/2015 - An agreement as finally been reached and production of the missing items will finally starts
08/2016 - Final wave of items is on the boat
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The rules may be evolving but I'm not as sure about the miniatures. But then again, I suppose there has been a lack underboob bikini bimbos with bazookas in the minis line tho so... o_o
http://www.dustgame.com/products_d.php?sid=28&id=722
Topless mecha pilots are way cooler!
(https://botwt.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/kabuki-models-bug-hunter.jpg)
:)
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well, I got my third wave stuff the other day, but it sure did not include any topless pilots...