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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Widows Son on March 30, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
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After some considerable time of visiting LAF I finally decided to take the plunge and join. Warm greetings to all!
I (hopefully...) attach some pictures of a recent project; the Teutonic Order vs Prussian tribes, in the Baltic Crusades (early period). The figures are mostly GB and Foundry, with some extras from Crusader and Artizan. I used 'green stuff' to make fur cloaks and hats on some of the tribesmen. The 'mad pagan priest' figure (in green) is an old Foundry Santa Claus, and I am quite pleased with the bear and handler, (who is shown having just slipped the chain from the bear, freeing it to attack - this small vignette is part of the Chieftains command unit).
I use Lion Rampant rules, but have designed my own army lists based on my reading of small patrol actions and ambushes. I also use 8 and 4 figure units, rather than 12 and 6, as I prefer the look of those sized units.
Comments and suggestions are most welcome. Thank you.
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Superb! :-*
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That's a fantastic start to your laf life! I can't wait to see more. :D
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Fantastic, it looks so cold!
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Great project! First time I have seen this subject in miniature. Thanks for posting and welcome to LAF!
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They look impressive with some interesting conversions. Looking forward to seeing more.
Welcome aboard, too.
RMZ
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Thank you so much for all your kind comments and for the warm welcome - really very much appreciated! :D
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Always good to see more northern crusades! The figures and table look great! nice mix of minis and green stuff!
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Great stuff :-*
Darrell.
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What a way to introduce yourself.
Great work. Please do share some more.
Also - Welcome on board. Most folk here are certifiably crazy but mostly harmless.
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Welcome and great work, a nice clean style.
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Welcome!
That's a great project. Good choice of setting, miniatures and rules rounded up by nice conversions and painting.
I love the Foundry's Santa priest.
Show us more ;)
Alex
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What a way to introduce yourself.
Great work. Please do share some more.
Also - Welcome on board. Most folk here are certifiably crazy but mostly harmless.
lol lol
What he said.
A great first posting.
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Welcome to the Madhouse!
:D
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Thanks so very much for all the super kind comments and feedback - really very much appreciated! :) I hope to post an AAR of a LR Northern Crusade game soon.
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I'd be very interested in seeing your Lion Rampant army lists if you wouldn't mind sharing?
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I'd be very interested in seeing your Lion Rampant army lists if you wouldn't mind sharing?
Second that, and I'd like to hear more about how the smaller units handle the rules.
I'm mostly concerned about staying power; I can see it balance out, as both sides use the smaller numbers, but aren't the units wiped out quite easily? Not that that is a problem if you like fast and brutal games.
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Beautiful minies :-*
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Thanks chaps! :)
My army lists are based (I admit) on my own perception of small raiding forces in the latter part of the early period of Teutonic involvement. By this I mean that both sides have learned some lessons of forest warfare against each other, and so the Teutonic force has half the MAA already dismounted, and has Tribal Allies (in reality, auxilliaries). I have placed an Order knight figures with the latter, just to help to keep them to 'the plan'! Also, for both forces I actually put a name on the base of the commander of each unit, as for our small gaming group this also helps to get a cinematic / drama aspect to each game.
For the Prussians, I have not gone with the 'wild charge' type of infantry, as again my perception is that whilst they may have started off employing that tactic, they would have quickly learned the benefits of lying in ambush for the Order (almost Teutoberger Wald style, in my own mind) and the wild charge rule just does not fit comfortably with that picture. I also gave the Prussians one unit of better cavalry. Of course feel free to differ!
I limited the amount of Bidowers, as, in our experience, they can dominate a game with lots of cover if one is not careful.
What we have ended up with is two forces, each with its own very distinct 'flavour', and with games being able to include a lot of woods / rough terrain without one side having all the advantages.
In terms of the reduced figures per unit, to be honest we really have not noticed that games go quicker, although I fully accept that this should be the case. Perhaps it is down to our poor morale throws and the way that units with 3-4 casualties may struggle to recover from being battered? ;). The choice to go with smaller sized units was more visual for me, as I felt that the larger groups started to stretch beyond the skirmish and into the 'small unit' look: entirely personal on my part and nothing more! I love the LR engine and am progressing onto DR soon.
So, I hope my background explanation has helped, and my lists are:
The Teutonic list is:
Mounted Knights (disciplined MAA)
Foot Knights (MAA - commanders unit)
Mounted Crossbowmen
Foot Spearmen (Sjt's)
Foot Crossbowmen
Tribal Allies (Yeomen, mixed weapons)
The Prussian force consists of:
Veteran Tribal Cavalry (Mtd Sjt's)
Foot Command (MAA - commanders unit)
Skirmish Cavalry (Yeomen with javelins only)
Veteran Tribesmen (expert Sjt's)
Tribal Archers (expert)
Tribal Infantry (Yeomen)
Skirmishers (bow armed Bidowers)