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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Brandlin on 02 April 2016, 11:46:41 PM
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Help me Obi-Wan LAF, you're my only hope.
I'm looking for a 28mm scaled sci-fi flier. A single man, recon vehicle, very lightly armed. The kind with a cockpit suspended under a pair of lift fans and small stub wings. At a push, it could be a drone.
Ideally I want a tiny tail or none at all, and overall in the 75-90mm (3 - 3 1/2" roughly) maximum size.
These are to work in a force with 25 mm old crow vehicles, so the simple, functional, industrial look would be great. I'm really NOT interested in anything with 40k styling.
If I can't find existing models then I may scratch build (I need 3) so recommendations for models but also inspiring images greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance...
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Since starting this thread and getting so much helpful feedback I have started to pot updates for the whole Grymn/ Old Crow force.
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Someone posted a Japanese kit of a small single person submersible style vehicle which I thought would make a great little space runabout.
https://www.hlj.com/product/AOS00960/Rsc
Could be a fun kit to bash up into what you want.
This is a more expensive kit, but again has bashing potential:
https://www.hlj.com/product/aos01142
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If you're ok with a paper model kit, Mel Ebbles' Hummingbird may be just the thing. http://www.genetmodels.com/ebbles-miniatures-2007-2008-models/
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How about the Dragonfly from Pardulon:
http://pardulon-models.com/de/fahrzeuge/komplettbausaetze/55/dragonfly-xrt-16-vtol
(http://pardulon-models.com/media/image/57_2.jpg)
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How about the old Future Warriors Starfish? Not *quite* the look you're going for, but the size should be perfect.
http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=starfish-mecv&cName=future-warrior-28-mm (http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=starfish-mecv&cName=future-warrior-28-mm)
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What about a GZG 15mm gunship?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XcCIHj8cL9Y/TwnJBGCpp6I/AAAAAAAAACY/SCSZVnJkIPE/s1600/HS04.jpg)
It could function as a 25mm drone. Dwartist did this one for me, long time ago (Pig Iron minis, 28mm):
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/predatorpt/commission/Drone001.jpg)
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/predatorpt/commission/Drone031.jpg)
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/predatorpt/commission/Drone035.jpg)
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DaemonScape?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GZG-75-VTOL-Gunship-25-28mm-scale-stargrunt-Sci-Fi-/120722189653?hash=item1c1b9a6d55 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GZG-75-VTOL-Gunship-25-28mm-scale-stargrunt-Sci-Fi-/120722189653?hash=item1c1b9a6d55)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA3MVgxNjAw/z/9xAAAOxyeR9TJaS9/$_57.JPG)
Probably more guns than you want but the are separate so you don't have to add them.
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There are these drones from RAFM:
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02828&Category_Code=USXMin
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02840&Category_Code=USXMin
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02841&Category_Code=USXMin
If it's for Grymn, you could probably remove the turret and fit a small cockpit.
Rebel has a few small fliers and I think that this one could be of use:
http://www.rebelminis.com/saclgu.html
Although these are 10mm scale, you may find something usable here:
http://www.hawkwargames.com/collections/post-human-republic-phr-dropships
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Zenterrain?
http://www.zenterrain.com/en_US/p/8U6-COPTER/121
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Thank you for all the input!
Many of these I know about, I have the pardulon one too, nice but too long for my current need.
Zenterrain?
http://www.zenterrain.com/en_US/p/8U6-COPTER/121
Oddly, I like the feel of that one. But not in MDF. It reminds me of this http://miniaturescenery.com/ProductPage.asp?CODE=VH1ZEPENG
Which Inso pointed out to me on another forum.
They both have that dumpy, practical simple look. I may have to make something similar.
Further suggestions still welcome!
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Maybe this one from Shapeways (Arctic Skunk)?
http://www.shapeways.com/product/K2CVV4HLW/ta05-assault-pod?li=shop-results&optionId=40875501
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How about this?:
http://www.amazon.com/MATCHBOX-MISSION-ROTO-WARRIOR-BUSTERS/dp/B0184L6JCE
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how about the robogear condor nice and cheap :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Condor-Assault-Flyer-by-Tehnolog-from-Robogear-line-/131740207064
Cheers Ian
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Maybe the Puppetswar 'Hornet':
(http://puppetswar.eu/img/p/351-1341-thickbox.jpg)
http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=351
I believe it fits in the concept you are looking for.
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Help me Obi-Wan LAF, you're my only hope.
I'm looking for a 28mm scaled sci-fi flier. A single man, recon vehicle, very lightly armed. The kind with a cockpit suspended under a pair of lift fans and small stub wings. At a push, it could be a drone.
Ideally I want a tiny tail or none at all, and overall in the 75-90mm (3 - 3 1/2" roughly) maximum size.
These are to work in a force with 25 mm old crow vehicles, so the simple, functional, industrial look would be great. I'm really NOT interested in anything with 40k styling.
If I can't find existing models then I may scratch build (I need 3) so recommendations for models but also inspiring images greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance...
I would suggest the Nexus Miniatures Cobra, but it is a little larger than you have indicated at 108mm by 96mm. Nice 80's retro feel though!
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In the Matchbox Sky Buster range, there are a few aircraft that could probably be fettled to work... I like the Sky Safari (which has titlt rotors) and the Turbo Tornado. Both would be good options for a small, manned VTOL or large VTOL drone.
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how about the robogear condor nice and cheap :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Condor-Assault-Flyer-by-Tehnolog-from-Robogear-line-/131740207064
Cheers Ian
Damn, I was afraid someone would beat me to suggesting the product of our Russian friends. lol
I THINK the Hornet might be a bit easier to rotate the blowers into 'lift fans.'
Doug
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This one is worth a shot at the price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151629758964?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/151629758964?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
I got 3 and am quite pleased with them for 15mm, might be a bit small for 25 though, but no smaller then some of the suggestions made. You could convert it into a drone.
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This one is worth a shot at the price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151629758964?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/151629758964?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
I got 3 and am quite pleased with them for 15mm, might be a bit small for 25 though, but no smaller then some of the suggestions made. You could convert it into a drone.
Well, the Robogear cockpits are the right size, if the rest of the craft a bit dwarf, of the super-deformed variety.
However, ugly, simple, and damn good price; that DOES seem the ticket! If only they could actually reduce shippage for quantity...
Heck, looks as if you might take a Robogear cockpit and put on the 4d ship, at which point, if you've a use for some other Robogear parts, say, a two- or six-legged walker base, they reused some of the parts throughout the Robogear series.
Sorry, now I'm probably just getting silly. :?
Doug
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Thank you all for the suggestions. Some great new stuff I hadn't seen.
However nothing that quite grabbed my attention and met what was in my imagination.
I do like this that inso suggested
http://miniaturescenery.com/ProductPage.asp?CODE=VH1ZEPENG
(http://miniaturescenery.com/Images/VH1ZEPENGLarge.jpg)
But not in MDF, and possibly with two rotors/fans, not one.
So... I have "A Plan!"
Involving...
(http://www.sf-collectables.co.uk/ekmps/shops/sfcollectables/images/star-wars-revell-easykit-pocket-obi-wan-s-jedi-starfighter-model-kit-976-p.gif)
(http://zinge.co.uk/image/cache/data/FANS01%20Fans%20Sprue%20of%208%20Various-1024x1024.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20111225234124/http://oldcrowmodels.co.uk/25mm/turret/smallturl.gif)
And plasticard and green stuff and brass wire.
To make something to land on these...
http://brandlin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/those-of-you-who-have-been-following-my.html
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RRKBhA-2I4w/S0XTb5BOvuI/AAAAAAAACAA/AfI7mCabYWA/s320/landingpad03.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cAP0VWoDeIc/S1sqONRtJhI/AAAAAAAACGI/QGMjhGW_9rE/s1600/Test+Assembly++02.jpg)
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O hey I remember that landing car. Blast from the past.
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Cool Plan!
Definitely keep us posted on how it comes out.
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Cool Plan!
Definitely keep us posted on how it comes out.
I will do, some initial work done this afternoon, pictures to follow on my blog and here.
O hey I remember that landing car. Blast from the past.
I have long term plans, and I'm nothing if not patient.
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How about this small flier?
http://www.shapeways.com/product/CEXYH2BBM/ta10-light-attack-vtol-28mm?li=shop-results&optionId=12116797
Salcor
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How about this small flier?
http://www.shapeways.com/product/CEXYH2BBM/ta10-light-attack-vtol-28mm?li=shop-results&optionId=12116797
I had that GI Joe toy when I was a kid.
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/84/skyhawk/ (http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/84/skyhawk/)
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O-cLucv6Yhw/VwgYDqTtJhI/AAAAAAAAFCI/AxQSSQpAWmYGhIqxWOvhFQ_nvXrs1DMjA/s400/IMG_0586.jpg) (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Fi4wE63Z1wQ/VwgYGKnN9-I/AAAAAAAAFCM/g9h3Y4L1Ds4jdcbt4fJixMYgHPsMVs0FA/s320/IMG_0588.jpg)
For a longer description and back story try here... (http://brandlin.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/grymn-flier.html)
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Link not working http://brandlin.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/old-corw-modular-vehicles.html had a funny %22 at the beginning.
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and some vehicles to tow them. (http://brandlin.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/old-corw-modular-vehicles.html)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sTLD0LntkbY/URQQciiMa5I/AAAAAAAADmc/Fg3iBafWJh0Mll739n8_eIdTM95zVMcRA/s400/blogger-image--1323826954.jpg)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-94Nv70K2JPQ/VwgdLSIhCkI/AAAAAAAAFCc/LcmwO3nh6IUBnTbBWhLmYRyGWYX7LS5Vw/s400/IMG_0589.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aQKcQkecM1U/VwgdNPgd4KI/AAAAAAAAFCg/x5z0W-iCp5cEJ6sH-PzoKqqMH8DB8djhw/s400/IMG_0590.jpg)
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Link not working http://brandlin.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/old-corw-modular-vehicles.html had a funny %22 at the beginning.
Thanks - fixed.
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O-cLucv6Yhw/VwgYDqTtJhI/AAAAAAAAFCI/AxQSSQpAWmYGhIqxWOvhFQ_nvXrs1DMjA/s400/IMG_0586.jpg) (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Fi4wE63Z1wQ/VwgYGKnN9-I/AAAAAAAAFCM/g9h3Y4L1Ds4jdcbt4fJixMYgHPsMVs0FA/s320/IMG_0588.jpg)
For a longer description and back story try here... (http://brandlin.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/grymn-flier.html)
Looks great! Do you think the cockpit would work for two 15mm figures?
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Looks great! Do you think the cockpit would work for two 15mm figures?
Yes. I'm painting the windscreens so there will be no interior detail to show layout. I think at 15mm you could argue the two figures are side by side or even one behind and above the other.
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More progress...
As always more pictures and commentary on my blog - link in sig...
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aTf6qlV2x4A/VwuzQob-7pI/AAAAAAAAFCw/w6sXJHdcQmQPy0bzmhNfs_HjVpdlmiopg/s640/IMG_0592.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Meu8mjWIHCk/VwuzUDH6wWI/AAAAAAAAFDQ/AtsUFamKVBIlqb_ORyJDBschzfXNlHIeg/s640/IMG_0597.JPG)
Sorry the pictures aren't great. these are from the ipad camera. I shall break out the decent camera later in the week.
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Sorted through this lot...
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ykQmEpWlHkM/VwvOhCE6mdI/AAAAAAAAFDo/u624vYMD9zEDdGijEo16HdHG14YbpT4tw/s640/IMG_0601.JPG)
to find a suitable nose weapon
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Fvv2HJm1OJE/VwvOjamp73I/AAAAAAAAFDs/plbWJ15YCdEuFC56VgchVvcA7tXzp3fAg/s400/IMG_0600.JPG)
Barrel will get cut down a little.
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I have decided to use this thread to also show what other vehicles and forces are going with the kit bash fliers.
This is a Hasslefree Grymn Army (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=sci%252dfi-%26%0D%0Aweird-war) with Old Crow Models vehicles (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5HUTABT2Q7g/VwvSed03g-I/AAAAAAAAFEE/Ey4eOkPTyjgBVNQAHaTh_Z7OXkCGfqXVQ/s640/IMG_0602.JPG).
I just finished detailing up some light recon / fast attack vehicles. These are Old Crow Models Gecko and Goanna Scouts (http://web.archive.org/web/20111208042251/http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/25vehicles.htm).
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5HUTABT2Q7g/VwvSed03g-I/AAAAAAAAFEE/Ey4eOkPTyjgBVNQAHaTh_Z7OXkCGfqXVQ/s640/IMG_0602.JPG)
More updates as i paint and the other 30+ vehicles I have.
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Very cool progress so far :)
Are you sticking to the original army colours? I liked them so it would be cool if you did.
The fliers look good so far but I have a couple of questions... Are they going to have tails or some sort of nose thrusters (they look nose heavy)? With the under-nose gun pod, how are you going to work the undercarriage?
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Very cool progress so far :)
Are you sticking to the original army colours? I liked them so it would be cool if you did.
The fliers look good so far but I have a couple of questions... Are they going to have tails or some sort of nose thrusters (they look nose heavy)? With the under-nose gun pod, how are you going to work the undercarriage?
Thanks Inso. It has taken me awhile!
When you ask about colours to match original models, do you mean these?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RRKBhA-2I4w/SeXxH6GPdmI/AAAAAAAAAo8/IJGao-ssgnY/s1600/GrymnGroup1.jpg)
My intention is to match them. However, I can't for the life of remember the colours and recipes. Also as I have a number of modular vehicles to paint I was thinking that a solid colour would work better than a camo scheme which would be split along the module lines. I think I will end up recreating this with vajallo model air paints and then redo the old ones.
As to the fliers. Yes, they are nose heavy. I couldn't easily mount the lift rotors any further forwards, but I have angled the cockpit down to reduce the over balance. They will get tails. the fliers have twin counter rotating lift fans a long tail with a stabilising rotor isn't necessary. I want to keep the model compact so it will have a tail fin that simply acts as a rudder. I might make it sizeable to carry squad markings etc.
As to landing gear I'm thinking simple helicopter skids. The fixing holes on the cockpit sides will accept bent brass rod to make the frame and plasticard strips for skids. The frame for the skids will have to be quite tall and wide to allow the nose weapon space to turn and not ground, but I'm hoping this will help make the models look a little more insect-like and 'fragile' like light recon fliers.
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I'm glad you are planning to stick to those colours.
If you fit a tail to the fliers, it will be enough to add a bit of balance... the tilted pod is enough to take the edge off as well.
I guess the skids will be a trial and error thing :)
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How about, instead of a tail, hanging a bulky weighty-looking engine/fuel cell/battery thingy (that's a technical term) off the back? Make it about a half inch wide, maybe an inch long, with radiator vanes and exposed tubing and lots of other fragile looking greeblies.
Also, how badly do you want the chin gun on the chin? What if you put it on top between the lift fans instead? That would also help to balance it.
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How about, instead of a tail, hanging a bulky weighty-looking engine/fuel cell/battery thingy (that's a technical term) off the back? Make it about a half inch wide, maybe an inch long, with radiator vanes and exposed tubing and lots of other fragile looking greeblies.
Also, how badly do you want the chin gun on the chin? What if you put it on top between the lift fans instead? That would also help to balance it.
It requires a tail because it currently has no other yaw control.
Mounting a gun above the cockpit would severely limit the downwards firing arc.
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It requires a tail because it currently has no other yaw control.
Mounting a gun above the cockpit would severely limit the downwards firing arc.
Ok, I misread your earlier post, and figured you were going to have the lift fans pivot to provide yaw control. If the lift fans are fixed, then for "realism" you need a yaw control rotor or fan or something. A rudder requires movement, and won't give any control at all while this thing is hovering.
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Ok, I misread your earlier post, and figured you were going to have the lift fans pivot to provide yaw control. If the lift fans are fixed, then for "realism" you need a yaw control rotor or fan or something. A rudder requires movement, and won't give any control at all while this thing is hovering.
To provide yaw control the lift fans would have to pivot independently one forward one back to cause the vehicle to pivot around a vertical axis. The fans can't be fixed in this design as that would also give no pitch control (which is created by pivoting the two fans in the same direction along their shared horizontal axis). So it's fair to assume that the fans move.
A rudder requires there to be airflow over it, not necessarily forward motion of the vehicle. As you'll see there's a smaller fan atached to the rear of the cockpit which would provide flow over a rudder with verticle axis, providing yaw control as well as adding to forward propulsion.
However this is a wargames model and not necessarily aeronautically accurate. Bottom line is i like the aesthetic of putting a rudder/tail on it.
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Initial landing gear design...
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gFclj0XHKpk/Vw05Z_9mBsI/AAAAAAAAFFo/8BUei3RVVQIdu2kwMgiLzU9xZvaUZeb9QCLcB/s1600/IMG_0614.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZfIKc39wTZU/Vw05aVoV8HI/AAAAAAAAFFs/gAdN8q70ZwQYneQhmqkFn43nMpqiGBXYgCLcB/s400/IMG_0617.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L_Qyg2BcZEM/Vw05ajLDMYI/AAAAAAAAFFw/RYo4lynAExMLAMk9ROFpT9X6gNv63mfZACLcB/s400/IMG_0619.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0tUKePhbiB0/Vw05axzE2eI/AAAAAAAAFF0/z9j8lWLtV5o0Yagn0KuOzd2JPmR9we0KwCLcB/s400/IMG_0620.JPG)
I think i like it but am undecided. I like the 'insect-like', 'bug' kind of feel. I also like the fragile light-weight feel to it. But I think it might be a little toy-like.
As always opinions welcomed.
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Looks pretty cool to me.
Perhaps bulk up the gun mounting, on the underside a little. From the rear shot the green stuff looks like it should be a bit wider, above the white squarish part.
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Looks pretty cool to me.
Perhaps bulk up the gun mounting, on the underside a little. From the rear shot the green stuff looks like it should be a bit wider, above the white squarish part.
Thanks Fred.
There's a bit of detailing still to do. The green stuff bit you mention is in fact a flat circular ring allowing the gun mount to rotate on a magnet. It needs smoothing and filling a little as you say.
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Nice work. THat's a good amount made.
Is that big APC from old crow? He doesn't trade any more does he?
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Nice work. THat's a good amount made.
Is that big APC from old crow? He doesn't trade any more does he?
Yes he does, you can just email him and use the Waybackmachine to find his old shop
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Nice work. THat's a good amount made.
Is that big APC from old crow? He doesn't trade any more does he?
Thanks beefcake. I'm very slow, I've had many of these models for many years.
Everything in the thread that isn't scratch built is old crow. The big APC is a claymore heavy APC.
He is trading but it's slow and he doesn't advertise so as to keep his volume of sales to a managable level. Might take weeks to get your product but he does deliver.
His old website is linked from my blog if you need a reference to his model range.
http://web.archive.org/web/20111224031538/http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/ocproducts.htm
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plod plod
current thinking on the tail.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tQkKtGQzupk/Vw_kWr_UgkI/AAAAAAAAFGM/LnE3BmxmWS0dPgXNM8f0KZDdoG_KTbuxwCLcB/s640/flier%2Btail.JPG)
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Landing gear and tail fin complete.
Tail is made from three sheets of styrene laminated together and then sanded into a vaguely aerofoil cross section. Its attached with three struts made from paperclips. I may bulk that out with a little styrene to make them look, well, bulkier.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t8sFhMpRDmw/VxEXc-zBg2I/AAAAAAAAFGo/ZjCF1W_ExW4XQi5JAR2WNYn44RlZST3jgCLcB/s1600/IMG_0641.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NgQ5Y4cXEzM/VxEXdRjzsGI/AAAAAAAAFGs/pNyn7jjPSjwXCA7h77NKQeRaa6AMaLcMACLcB/s400/IMG_0643.JPG)
... and on its mobile landing pad.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z60-_hyi7kY/VxEXd-sbbtI/AAAAAAAAFG8/X0uO2ro0gi4gendq7tbg3_H7a1-xT_KrQCLcB/s400/IMG_0647.JPG)
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LIKE!
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That works very well - the tail fin balances the proportions of the model nicely.
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That works very well - the tail fin balances the proportions of the model nicely.
Thanks. Yeah it needed the tail for aesthetic balance as well as some semblance of engineering sense.
LIKE!
Thanks dwartist. I love your work on your blog, so that's praise indeed.
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-68oVofnnQ_c/VxJlhd7qLeI/AAAAAAAAFHQ/DXJFWYg-dSMZVj1UdhiOGVOMioDxckHYwCLcB/s640/IMG_0570.JPG)
Ready for paint.
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Awesome! :-* They have a real Cayuse kind of vibe about them. Very believable.
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Thought I'd clean the airbrush. And then clean the airbrush. And then for a change, clean the airbrush some more.
And then put some undercoat on the fliers and other models. This is an all over coat of grey primer, followed by Zenithal undercoat - black shot on the underside of the models and a thin white coat shot from the top down. I've never done this before, but it's intended to show through the top coat so that you get a more natural shading of the model colours. I remain to see if this affects my painting.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AQWVqZ7sMQw/VxOjPXFJOFI/AAAAAAAAFHk/WNGHe-9qozQ_cS7wId97v7DZ3i7Le7_SwCLcB/s400/IMG_0655.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Acmnskyt8FE/VxOjPSLf-fI/AAAAAAAAFHg/PE2_MwdCuu8MQ0Dky5VT9rM0K_CTCCgjACLcB/s400/IMG_0656.JPG)
All the models here other than the fliers are from Old Crow Models.
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Your grey winter camo is one of my most liked colour schemes ever. In fact, those are the only paintjobs I've rated as high as Dwartist's, and that's saying something since David is my go-to reference for military schemes.
Mind you, I know this time you may go for a simple grey scheme, without camo. Umh... it was rather muted, so it wouldn't be so different.
Whatever you decide, I am so looking forward to seeing you painting again!
P.D: Have I sounded too much like a fanboy?
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Your grey winter camo is one of my most liked colour schemes ever. In fact, those are the only paintjobs I've rated as high as Dwartist's, and that's saying something since David is my go-to reference for military schemes.
Mind you, I know this time you may go for a simple grey scheme, without camo. Umh... it was rather muted, so it wouldn't be so different.
Whatever you decide, I am so looking forward to seeing you painting again!
P.D: Have I sounded too much like a fanboy?
Err fan boy? Yes you have. But... Wow. Thanks.
I'm going to try and recreate the colour scheme I did 6 years ago. If I can figure out the paint recipe.
I don't think I'm anywhere near dwartist's league, but I do like to put in more effort than a typical wargames model. Especially seeing as these models will spend 99.9% of their time in a display case.
No pressure to perform now huh?
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Hurray! I found the original paint recipe! Not bad after only 8 years!
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Ah, that's gotta feel good. Congrats on finding the recipe!
First lesson I learned when coming back to the hobby - someone at the Forum of Doom suggested keeping a wee book. Priceless advice.
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Ah, that's gotta feel good. Congrats on finding the recipe!
First lesson I learned when coming back to the hobby - someone at the Forum of Doom suggested keeping a wee book. Priceless advice.
I thought you said frothers for a minute! That would put a whole new angle on "wee book".
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lol
It has been said that I am terribly immature for my years!
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Windows pre-shaded by airbrush.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QaB0fNnWTLU/VxeOSm4TgjI/AAAAAAAAFLM/yXRObEBjGNsZpmey10MUbzimHZbDpt75gCLcB/s640/0109d9024b97d8f28ce38f4d229b7d13a1fd425a00.jpg)
Tinted green.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WB7hCt0E7GI/VxeiThj1ohI/AAAAAAAAFLc/hRvBHASkW1EdjtE5r2ZFmOPWJkKYKD4uQCLcB/s640/010958ce79303f2536ff6a9edd7563b455667606b5.jpg)
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Are you mixing that lovely eggshell green with the Tamiya X-23 clear blue?
I think I'd like to file this all in my wee book! ;D
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Are you mixing that lovely eggshell green with the Tamiya X-23 clear blue?
Initial intent was to glaze the black/white highlight with the tamiya clear, but I messed it up, so I reverted to an airbrushed tint instead. The camouflage colours have a bluish tone so at the last minute I thought a green tint would be better than more blue.
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Initial intent was to glaze the black/white highlight with the tamiya clear, but I messed it up, so I reverted to an airbrushed tint instead. The camouflage colours have a bluish tone so at the last minute I thought a green tint would be better than more blue.
Excellent reasoning. The contrast will suit them great. :D
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I couldn't resist taking the mask off a couple of vehicles after I'd sprayed the rough camouflage.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LSGsZtyuc4U/VxkIJ2LdvEI/AAAAAAAAFL4/bg_eZ-M73k0Z4kTkInlD2TGSO_qZzs2dQCLcB/s400/01bd88e41f70b0ded6f821c5a071c8a95a00fafdaf.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J5CfJirBZqE/VxkDgN0zVhI/AAAAAAAAFLs/FnycAFDPLEwcOliWk6ptulo6A7HnqtjjACLcB/s400/01a55190c6a18a95adc7d0a06b93a119a843e5a938.jpg)
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Cool! 8) 8) 8)
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Great collection! I love that green colour! 8)
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Thanks guys..
:o painting 48 tyres black really is a soul destroying activity.
Anyway thats done, and all the details, vents etc are now blacked in.
:o :( :? Tried washing them with the same formula i used 8 years ago and it pooled and left horrible tide marks. I'm guessing paints and washes don't last for ever!! So, had to re-paint the ruined vehicle from black undercoat up.
Next step, blockign in details - vents and louvres, smoke dischargers, lights, weapons etc.
then... I need to design some decals like this..
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9SqgZj4rgD4/VxY2ncHD-JI/AAAAAAAAFI0/thZEIeQ56WcVYpv6qJI9n7OEJJ0nF3htwCKgB/s1600/jixEebn7T.png) (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JWCzuqsspJI/VxZCp_UrbnI/AAAAAAAAFJU/hq16AUwX5cALa6TxOEgYGIQe7vEdH7MvwCLcB/s200/01d3f87a5af11c66e88fdfe7a339241a5b8a8f9531.jpg)
Check my blog for the thinking on designs. (http://brandlin.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2016-04-19T17:16:00%2B01:00&max-results=3)
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Dude, I had no idea you were a Role Master Veteran! 8)
Respect.
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All camouflage work done. Most of the details complete or just blocked in black.
Still to do : Metal coat on the diamond plate, edge highlighting of all the panels (urgh! - I hate that bit!), winter weathering. Then there are decals to go on.
The picture shows the 8 year old paint job I am trying to match on the largest APC.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6I1jPKyOeU8/VyILLA2ESBI/AAAAAAAAFMI/uRh4YgLZNHk7xBOxn51c8KDOuHCt0-JAgCLcB/s1600/IMG_0010.JPG)
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One word reaction: awesome.
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It's as if you have lights on inside the cabs! :-* What about trying OSL on the lights/beacons?
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Thanks von lucky.
It's as if you have lights on inside the cabs! :-* What about trying OSL on the lights/beacons?
That's in my plans, but it will likely be a simple soft airbrush glow around each light.