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Title: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 25th July)
Post by: Chico on 30 April 2016, 03:58:55 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rq-Ay3lI-0c/VxY-1gbkujI/AAAAAAAAFHA/jDnaRMJV61c1Gkg68mc4doU7Xa14getrACLcB/s640/5803708.jpg)

So with K47 being released soon and a few peopled at my local gaming Club getting excited I'd thought I'd make a start on my own force.

Being based on Bolt Action and being Bolt Action army compatible it wasn't too hard to find some figures I took a fancy too painting, I'd like to point out at this point though that my painting is historical in any way and I was just aiming to roughly get close to the Uniform schemes (And my painting is gaming standard at best).

So after ordering a few boxes of bits here's the first ones finished:

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160430_153136.jpg)
Waffen SS Sturmbataillon Charlemagne

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160430_153032.jpg)
Waffen SS HQ

Funny enough this is the first time I've painted anything outside of Sci-fi/Fan/Post Apoc and I'm quite enjoying the change of pace.

Thanks for looking and more updates soon (I hope).
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Glenn on 30 April 2016, 05:18:57 PM
very very cool

good colours and everything looks spot on

 :)
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Giger on 03 May 2016, 04:13:55 PM
Nice to see you expanding your horizons Chico ;)
Looking forward to seeing more Germans from you.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Chico on 03 May 2016, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: Glenn on 30 April 2016, 05:18:57 PM
very very cool

good colours and everything looks spot on

 :)


Thanks very much mate, all the cool people are called Glenn it seems :D

Quote from: Giger on 03 May 2016, 04:13:55 PM
Nice to see you expanding your horizons Chico ;)
Looking forward to seeing more Germans from you.

Ta, I heard about weridos like you asking to see more of a fellas German ;) hehe


More not so weird, weird stuff has been finished: LMG, more Waffen and a Medium Mortar (Pictures when the light inproves, so tomorrow hehe).

I should really do some Weird stuff but I want to start my Hano first and few more basic SS (If you can call SS basic).
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: horridperson on 05 May 2016, 11:02:49 AM
Those models look sharp Chico.  I've never played Bolt Action either but Konflikt 47 has enough "weird" thrown in there that I want to give it a go too. I've always been fascinated by WW2 but always felt limited wargaming it by concerns about adhering to the veracity of actual events.  I have some British paras I painted years ago but decided to start painting a Waffen SS force because their kit was most advanced toward the end of the conflict and thought it would be most appropriate thrown 2 years forward.  I'll keep following your thread as you will be at least a week ahead of me (My mail order is a week out) so I can see how you are building your force and nick your ideas :) .I'm very interested to see your take on it.


ADD:  I have been looking but I haven't found much information on K47 beyond some models (they look cool) but I would like to know where the alternate history ends up going.  It seems silly but if I make up a story for my little army I don't want it to grate against "canon".    
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Chico on 05 May 2016, 12:33:34 PM
Thanks mate steal any idea you wish, I've no doubt stolen them myself hehe ;)

If you are after more background/fluff/unit ideas for K'47 I recommend you search for Clockwork Goblins ''War Without End'' it's their 15mm version of the game which has the same units/background.

It'll give you a good idea of what's to come.

You also have this from the rulebook blurb:

Konflikt '47 is set in a world very much like ours. In fact, its history is indistinguishable from our own until 1943 when the Manhattan Project's test of a prototype nuclear device opened a rift in the fabric of space.

When the Fat Boy atomic bomb was dropped on Dresden on 12 March 1944, it created a second rift, and German scientists quickly set to work studying it. Both rifts began to relay signals from unknown sources.

These signals were largely indecipherable, but occasionally one would convey a formula or scientific theory that permitted huge technological advances. Both the US and Germany were reluctant to share these advances with their allies, and in May 1944, Stalin declared the US to be an enemy of the Motherland.


So I take it everything is in a fixed setting of time of around 1947 and the War hasn't ended so we don't know the final outcome so everything is open so I wouldn't worry about cannon as it'll no doubt never be fleshed out too much.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: horridperson on 05 May 2016, 02:16:00 PM
Thanks for pointing me to, "War without End".  The synopsis and your explanation allows me to make a "safe" decision on my divisions identity/history.  If WWE had significant departures from real world history my plans wouldn't gel.  The vehicles look pretty sweet and the story seems cool.  The only "ugly" mini was the german zombie; I hope it's a placeholder.  The British robot looked awesome and the Turing connection was too.

I'm thinking my division could be the hitlerjugend.  They were founded in 43' and everything up to that is real war history.  The other possibility which I'm liking a little better is an imaginary division founded from youth born in the following year (youth born in 1926, age 18 constituted the 12 divisions recruits).  I think I'll call it, "Quecksilber" for Herbert Norkus.  With the former I have "creative control" and don't have to worry about accuracy as much.  As far as weird war goes I found the idea of kids who were indoctrinated by the nazis all through childhood going straight to being soldiers really creepy and thought it would be a cool army concept.   
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Chico on 05 May 2016, 02:53:19 PM
I like the idea of your indoctrinated kids as it allows you to have elite or at least well equipped conscripts, a creepy version of Hitler Youth.

I don't have any fluff for my own force yet, but I may just run a weird version 33rd Waffen SS Charlemagne

Mini wise though I'm looking forward to getting these:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U-bUXMu4oVY/VKhQ-emluVI/AAAAAAAAoxY/zYSgYKHqJVE/s1600/10885419_608986655897007_8874700242833898354_n.jpg)

Shouls be quite fun to paint up in Pea Dot Camo.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Sir_Theo on 05 May 2016, 03:02:58 PM
Great stuff. I really like the Warlord SS troops (and the Charlemagne box in particular) I know some people don't like the cartoony aspect of some of the minis but it makes them a lot of fun to paint!

Looking forward to seeing some of the weirder wierd war stuff get added to your collection!
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Giger on 06 May 2016, 12:08:43 PM
I have one of those German tank/walker and I'm hoping to paint it up soon(ish).  I can say that it is a very nice miniature.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog
Post by: Chico on 06 May 2016, 12:45:52 PM
A small(ish) update, the last of my normal troops for the moment. I have a Hanomag to paint then it's onto the weird bits like a Gestapo Vampire :)

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160506_122851.jpg)
Medium Mortar

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160506_122833.jpg)
LMG Team

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160506_122719.jpg)
More SS

Thanks for looking :)
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: horridperson on 07 May 2016, 01:46:18 AM
Those look awesome chico; I love the autumn patterns and want to use them myself.  I think I prefer the oak leaf but I it may have been replaced by the forest plane so I'm considering going with the latter even if I don't like it quite as much.

Speaking of vampires do you mean the BA SS Vampire Count that came with Major Terntadust?  I have him buried away with my Brits and since you reminded me of him I can start the project a week early :) .
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: Chico on 07 May 2016, 06:41:54 AM
The Vampire I have I haven't a clue where he's from, it was a cheap ebay buy:

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/e5677e18-8eea-45f6-990e-c66d51eb4c3f.jpg)
Ebay pic, mine has yet to arrive.

I'm hoping it looks better in real life as that picture it's a shocker but was worth a punt.. well maybe ;)
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: horridperson on 07 May 2016, 09:44:30 AM
The photo is a little blurry but hopefully the model will make the grade.  If it isn't quite there looking at your other models you should be able to bring it up to snuff with some good paintwork.  I just got my Count stripped, rebased and ready for priming.  I decided to go with the higher 25mm bases because I have more of them and my pulp and Strange Aeons figures are based with them.  I'd like everything to be cross compatible.  I have to run out later today and acquire some stray paints for this project then hopefully I can get the Count started.   
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: Chico on 07 May 2016, 10:45:19 AM
I do like your Count figure so I'm now regretting my option of being a cheap ass hehe.

Quite tempted with getting these at some point:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDEyWDYyMQ==/z/EOwAAOSwD0lUkaQe/$_12.JPG)

Fluff wise I'm not sure how Vampires and Puppies can go within the same force without it being too far fetched. So I may just drop the one or the other once the direction i'm going in is more cermented.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: Giger on 09 May 2016, 11:32:00 AM
I love the SOTR Vampire Officer:

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/psmorgul/IMG_0412_zps2d6bfeae.jpg)
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: Chico on 09 May 2016, 11:49:13 AM
He looks good, not sure about his legs being like that though. Is he hovering?
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 6th May)
Post by: Giger on 10 May 2016, 11:17:58 AM
I think it's just the angle of the photo, he looks fine in person.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 26th May)
Post by: Chico on 26 May 2016, 03:10:41 PM
So yesterday at the Watford Wargaming Club I planned to play my first game of K'47/BA, well that was the plan anyway but sadly I was stood up and the game didn't take place :(

Still It wasn't all bad as I managed to take a few pics of my force (Some are even Ok..ish).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2NJEIqVTTwM/V0cCIH2SPCI/AAAAAAAAFMo/5yzIoMUffaMI35vCNZQbJ2nPd-Nl4CLtQCLcB/s640/IMG_20160525_174706.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N6Kv-s85qHQ/V0cCLRDQ97I/AAAAAAAAFM0/tCN4_db5Zes2OwDhXhsSluWh5eqBXLvKwCLcB/s640/IMG_20160525_174717.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mR4SJG9bges/V0cCLKgnjDI/AAAAAAAAFMw/keyIbaMhyNEbmmiaznUKKC0Q-NdMutvuwCLcB/s640/IMG_20160525_174732.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bsu5z63OH1U/V0cCLHngSFI/AAAAAAAAFMs/JvO9AcEuONYckWIw0tUpDSSotOpvep1SACLcB/s640/IMG_20160525_174744.jpg)

Sadly as the game didn't take place it makes this post a rather quick one but lucky for me I arranged enough game for next week against my normal long suffering opponent.

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 26th May)
Post by: horridperson on 27 May 2016, 06:01:24 AM
Your Germans look excellent Chico!  I think I'm more than a week behind now :) .  I think you made the safe decision committing to building a core force that you can expand once more information comes out on Konflikt '47 so I'll follow your example.  The link you posted on your blog to the painting video was really helpful.  Now that I finally have the right colours to work with I can get started too.  Did you follow the pea pattern she demonstrated or did you choose another autumn/winter scheme?

Once to have a game in please share what you think of it.  Shame you didn't get to play this time around but hopefully the photo op made it worthwhile.  Great stuff!   
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 26th May)
Post by: Chico on 27 May 2016, 10:05:50 AM
Thanks the Video I posted on the Blog helped me work out how to correctly layer Camo which before this project I had no idea about but really the one I  ended up using for colour choices mostly this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gihUM74xOlM

I still modded it slighty to make it both easier and fit the paints I owned (As it turned out I only needed to change a single paint).

I also changed the bags/webbing colour to a dark brown as I just preferred it.

Thanks
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 26th May)
Post by: horridperson on 27 May 2016, 10:25:11 AM
Oh the paint!!!  I wasted the first week I picked up my models tinkering and mixing.  I never hit anything I liked so I ordered a Vallejo Waffen SS set.  It turns out the colour variations are for the most part minute and it had been so long since I painted camo I'd forgotten the rules.  Luckily the video reminded me that it's more representational than larger scale models so I'm just rolling out the first batch of test models with a few tints added across the board.  I hope to post soon.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Update 26th May)
Post by: Chico on 06 June 2016, 02:44:37 PM
Small update time:

Been busy converting Zombies from the Project Z game (Warlord games but uses the Wargame Factory plastics) which my wife bought for me for our anniversary and Warlords German Grenadiers.

I have 10 converted so far but I just finished the first 2 test paint jobs:

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/c009e350-a387-428d-9bd7-1f91bc2cc207.jpg)

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x314/juggalochico/IMG_20160606_121839.jpg)

Thanks for looking
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: horridperson on 07 June 2016, 03:07:14 AM
The painting looks good and the conversions are clean looking.  I like what you have accomplished but I'm not sure on the constituent parts.  I have a pack of Wargames Factory zombies and female survivors but I think I'll save them for zombie or post apocalyptic games.  The BA models are a bit chunky/heroic (which works for me by itself) but the Z range models are more true scale so I don't think they would, "play nice" together on the tabletop..  At the moment the pickings are limited for Konflikt '47 zombies so I admire your initiative and remain envious of your progress.

I still don't know what to do.  A while back Warlord had a partnership with Mantic where they released a combined zombie german collection of sprues.  I thought those looked pretty cool but if they are releasing their own I'm anticipating that won't be an option.  On the Warlord forums a guy posted some really cool "steppe ghouls".  I think they were a combo of russian models and the mantic ghoul models.  I had a better look at the planned Konflikt '47 zombie renders and they are growing on me.  I think the posted the ugliest one of the lot on the provisional unit list so I may hold off until those drop.

Segway back to the Warlord Games forum.  They just opened a Konflikt '47 space on their boards.  Over here on LA people are usually pretty friendly but not so much over there.  Some of the BA community really don't like Weird War invading their game.  I started a thread that's just a rehash of what I'm doing here but the board as a whole is really quiet and comparatively there isn't much activity.

Have you anything more to say about the War Z game?  The rules sounded spartan for my tastes and I'm not taking it as the best of signs you are cannibalizing Z models for other games.   
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Chico on 07 June 2016, 08:45:22 AM
The Zombies are skinnier then the Warlord and Artizan ranges I'm using, but your'd expect that being rotting fleshless corpses and do scale well enough for my tastes :).

Of course if you don't fancy the hassle of converting Nazi Zombies then I'd recommend Studio Miniatures plastics:

(http://www.studiominiatures.com/media/k2/items/cache/233826a67be66a810b23a263230da62e_XL.jpg)

I don't have any myself set, but a chap in my local club is using them for his K'47/BA force :)

As for the Warlord Forum it's very cliquey as most forums that are dedicated to one company. I made the mistake on reading one of the BA threads about LMG's and it just split down to people fighting over historical and gamey reasons on why too or not too use it.

As for the Project Z game, I quite like it and have done a review on my blog (Pt.2 to come). It's both simple and quite engading, I have a large playthough arranged for Wednesday so I'll know for certain then the pros and cons.

The Zombies which end up converted though will pull double duty in both games as they'll just be reenactors that ended up getting turned while all dressed up.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: horridperson on 07 June 2016, 08:27:10 PM
Those studio miniatures are nice;  Thanks for suggesting another possibility.

Yeah the reason there is a Konflikt '47 section on the boards at warlord is largely because the threads on the Bolt Action one got stomped on.  A thread ended up closed and everything related were shifted to the new section.  Maybe not my favorite place to post but the mod acted proactively so kudos to him.

I'm looking forward to your review and will keep checking in on your blog.  That reenactment angle is slick!  Great way to multi purpose your collection. 
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Weird WWII on 10 June 2016, 02:38:47 AM
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/Knpfchenbilder682-1.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/weirdwwii/media/Knpfchenbilder682-1.jpg.html)
Nazi Succubus with her toys

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/1_zpsdxdrslb9.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/weirdwwii/media/1_zpsdxdrslb9.jpg.html)
German Ritter Class Armored Mechanical Suit
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Chico on 10 June 2016, 09:40:17 AM
Quote from: Weird WWII on 10 June 2016, 02:38:47 AM

(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x350/weirdwwii/1_zpsdxdrslb9.jpg) (http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/weirdwwii/media/1_zpsdxdrslb9.jpg.html)
German Ritter Class Armored Mechanical Suit

Those are very nice. not sure why you posted them in my thread though heheh  :? lol
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Weird WWII on 10 June 2016, 10:35:10 AM
Because it's Weird WWII and I'm weird.

Nuff said,
Brian
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Weird WWII on 10 June 2016, 10:37:39 AM
Also, if you want zombies then I give you the "Flesh Field".  Try crossing that with your troops.

http://www.weirdwwii.com/2011/12/on-my-wip-table-german-anti-walker.html

Enjoy,
Brian
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: horridperson on 11 June 2016, 05:31:05 AM
@Weird WWII

Yeah, those are neat models; I like those Ritters.  You should start a thread too so I can have more threads to check out when I come back on the boards and look for replies.  I hate it when I stop in for a visit and the only thread on my list is the, "GW bad" thread and it's grown another page :) .  Need more active threads on my replies list with cool models.  I'll have a look at your blog while I'm at it.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Panzerknacker on 24 June 2016, 05:58:05 PM
Quote from: Weird WWII on 10 June 2016, 10:37:39 AM
Also, if you want zombies then I give you the "Flesh Field".  Try crossing that with your troops.

http://www.weirdwwii.com/2011/12/on-my-wip-table-german-anti-walker.html

Enjoy,
Brian

Holy crap that is disturbing!
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Kommando_J on 25 July 2016, 11:43:27 AM
Boy ain't right I tell ya hwat.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Wyrmalla on 25 July 2016, 12:33:53 PM
Not to drag this thread off topic, but is there any information regarding the "minor" powers in '47? Romania, Finland, etc? I assume that they've been merged with the larger powers for simplicity's sake.

I have a late war Polish partisan force on the go, which I'm sure would still be active in this setting (hell the AK wasn't wiped out by the Soviets till the 60s). I'd imagine they'd be the same as they were in '45, just with the odd bit of newer gear (I'm picturing a walker hiding in a forest covered in camo nets... How would the Partisan list's inexperienced rule for all captured vehicles come into play with that?). :)

 The more established eastern partisans would just use the Soviet rules by this point in the war however.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Ballardian on 25 July 2016, 01:03:44 PM
Judging by what's being said on WGs own forum, anything that has a BA list can be played in Konflict'47.
Title: Re: Konflikt '47 - Germans Blog (Updated 6th June) - Zombies Tests
Post by: Chico on 25 July 2016, 01:20:03 PM
At the moment the 4 main forces for release is US, Germans, Soviets & Brits with Japan to be the first K'47 supplement. While any list/unit from BA can be used from any of the BA supplements other then the big 4 they won't see any ''Weird'' units and fluff upon first release.

But with K'47 as it's not just WW2 extended by 2 years but rather a whole new timeline that splits from are history around 1930, so alot of BA units may not make sense with out a retweak fluff wise.

Oh and those interested, I have been woking on this force a fair bit so to see a full Blog post head here: http://oldhammeronabudget.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/konflikt-47bolt-action-mid-late-war.html#more