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Title: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Cubs on 09 June 2016, 02:02:26 PM
I don't know if this in an old Citadel model, or a Ral Partha one, but it's by Michael Perry and it's pure class. I snapped her up on eBay for less than £3 the other week! Here she is in all her scaly glory, complete with nervous supper.

(http://myalbum.com/photo/URQBs5BI5IIZ/360.jpg)

(http://myalbum.com/photo/ChJuX4st6gg3/540.jpg)

(http://myalbum.com/photo/gsiTRHLaihqW/540.jpg)

(http://myalbum.com/photo/jSnbQvnSPYlD/360.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Steam Flunky on 09 June 2016, 02:04:40 PM
VERY nice painting  :-*
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Steve63 on 09 June 2016, 02:06:37 PM
Sexy
Can you introduce me
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 09 June 2016, 02:25:58 PM
great work on that skin- and a good miniature- very reminiscent of some mages of Grendel's Mother
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: jthomlin on 09 June 2016, 02:30:18 PM
Beautifully done!

(Pretty sure it was sculpted by Tom Meier however ...)

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Cubs on 09 June 2016, 02:50:19 PM
Beautifully done!

(Pretty sure it was sculpted by Tom Meier however ...)

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson

Not according to the 'M Perry' signature on the underside of the base!

EDIT: You got my grey matter intrigued by this, so I did a little digging. According to 'The Stuff of Legends' the 'Fantasy Tribe Trolls' (this one is FTT7) were first advertised in the spring of 1981 as to be sculpted by Tom Meier (I guess they used the old black and white design drawings as they used to back then), but for some reason (possibly because they were overdue for release) the Perrys did FTT7 and FTT8, which were eventually released in the spring of 1982, and Tom Meier did the rest of them. The code was then changed to C20 in 1983 for most of them.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mPnQE3519yE/Vf6XcEryN6I/AAAAAAAACTE/NFXcaxUe1ZY/s1600/c20ftttrollsc1.jpg) 
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Elbows on 09 June 2016, 05:26:14 PM
Excellent work, the body (kid?) in the bag is extra creepy.  Well done.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Hobgoblin on 09 June 2016, 07:56:11 PM
Superb painting! I have a brace of these kicking around, but I think I'll leave them be for now ...  :o

On the Perrys vs Tom Meier: I think you might make a dynamism vs detail distinction. Tom Meier's stuff has always been peerless in the details, but if there's one area in which the Perrys may sometimes have had an edge, it's in the dynamism: not just in obviously "dynamic" poses, but in naturalistic "weight shift". I think the troll-wife has plenty of that, whereas the troll discipline master from the same range (also a superb model) is better detailed but a tiny bit more stylised in pose.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Vermis on 09 June 2016, 08:23:03 PM
On the Perrys vs Tom Meier: I think you might make a dynamism vs detail distinction. Tom Meier's stuff has always been peerless in the details, but if there's one area in which the Perrys may sometimes have had an edge, it's in the dynamism: not just in obviously "dynamic" poses, but in naturalistic "weight shift". I think the troll-wife has plenty of that...

What 'e said.

Really nice work on that, Paul. I like the slate-blue scheme and all the scaly stippling on the lit areas looks very natural. :)

And highlighted gums, too!
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on 09 June 2016, 08:31:11 PM
A beautiful paint job on a classic miniature.

Very well done.

Tony
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Post by: rob_the_robgoblin on 09 June 2016, 10:52:46 PM
That's great, really like the skin texture you've achieved.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: barbaric splendor on 10 June 2016, 05:34:48 AM
Great painting on that!
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Post by: Hammers on 10 June 2016, 06:35:00 AM
Very cool and splendid execution.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: jthomlin on 10 June 2016, 10:12:04 AM
Not according to the 'M Perry' signature on the underside of the base!

I stand corrected, kinda hard to argue with really!  ;D

EDIT: You got my grey matter intrigued by this, so I did a little digging. According to 'The Stuff of Legends' the 'Fantasy Tribe Trolls' (this one is FTT7) were first advertised in the spring of 1981 as to be sculpted by Tom Meier (I guess they used the old black and white design drawings as they used to back then), but for some reason (possibly because they were overdue for release) the Perrys did FTT7 and FTT8, which were eventually released in the spring of 1982, and Tom Meier did the rest of them. The code was then changed to C20 in 1983 for most of them.

Ah! I was pretty sure Tom did the range which is why I commented, but obviously not all.

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Cubs on 10 June 2016, 10:38:08 AM
Ah! I was pretty sure Tom did the range which is why I commented, but obviously not all.

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson

Someone on the Oldhammer FB page did say that he heard Tom Meier had begun sculpting, but that the Perrys resculpted the FTT7 and FTT8, so how much is their work and how much is Tom's ... I guess only they know! I do like the other Tom Meier trolls as well though and I can see myself snapping up a couple on eBay. My brother had the one with the scimitar, with a captive slung over its back, so that is one I definitely have my sights on.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: DeafNala on 10 June 2016, 12:21:18 PM
Your brushwork & basing are OUTSTANDING[. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Little Odo on 10 June 2016, 12:52:49 PM
Fantastic paint job. I got stuck for ideas on mine and she came out a boring monotone. I will have to strip and repaint her after seeing your greatly inspiring work.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Humorous_Conclusion on 10 June 2016, 03:21:37 PM
Nicely dark and earthy. Like something out of a very dark fairy tale.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: SBRPearce on 10 June 2016, 04:20:24 PM
I realize that I have a couple trolls from that line, dating back to my first burst of mini-collecting in the late 1970s-early 1980s... Do we know if these are still/back in production anywhere, because they're beautifully done.
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: Andym on 10 June 2016, 09:06:33 PM
That is sooo creepy!.....but sooo fantastic at the same time! :-* You really are the king of texture!
Title: Re: Oldhammery Troll Female
Post by: jthomlin on 11 June 2016, 02:21:58 AM
Someone on the Oldhammer FB page did say that he heard Tom Meier had begun sculpting, but that the Perrys resculpted the FTT7 and FTT8, so how much is their work and how much is Tom's ... I guess only they know! I do like the other Tom Meier trolls as well though and I can see myself snapping up a couple on eBay. My brother had the one with the scimitar, with a captive slung over its back, so that is one I definitely have my sights on.

I must admit to have just dug out my 'troll box' to find that I have 8 of the range, sadly for me 3 of them are doubled up (FTT 1, 4 & 6) but that may just be an opportunity for others.  ;)

I'm missing 2, 5, 7 & 8 just in case anyone has any lying about taking up space ...   ::)

Cheers!
Joe Thomlinson