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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: AKULA on 22 January 2009, 09:04:37 PM
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(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030108-1.jpg)
First of my Regulars for "A Very British Civil War".
For anyone that hasn't caught the "A Very British Civil War" bug yet, its set in 1938, so the bulk of regulars/TA units have probably still got the old style uniforms, rather than the "1937" pattern battledress, Lewis guns rather than brens etc...
A mix of Musketeer and Great War Minis, with a diecast roller (which will be seconded to my militia unit - the League Of Ordinary Patrotic Yorkshiremen, or LOOPY for short).
More piccies here:
http://frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18236
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Lovely work, Akula. You should be proud of these stout Yeomen.;)
May I ask, as I'm not very familiar with the concept, what are the factions in "A Very British Civil War"? Do we have Monarchists versus Parliament, with some Fascists thrown into the mix? How does it all work? Very interesting concept.
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May I ask, as I'm not very familiar with the concept, what are the factions in "A Very British Civil War"? Do we have Monarchists versus Parliament, with some Fascists thrown into the mix? How does it all work? Very interesting concept.
The Sourcebook can be found here - lots of background, without being restrictive, and ideas for building units, without forcing you to use one set of rules, or another:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1938-A-VERY-BRITISH-CIVIL-WAR-SOURCE-BOOK_W0QQitemZ360124929963QQihZ023QQcategoryZ2537QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Factions:
Royalist (King Edward not George), supported by the BUF - Facist Legion, and Italian/German advisors.
Anglican League - Anti-Edward, calling for his brother George to return from Exile
Communists
Welsh Miners Militia
Home Defence Volunteers
Foreign Volunteer units
Auxiliary Constables
....the list goes on ;)
Get the book - you won't regret it.
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OK, I did. I hope I don't regret it :D
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oh please stop posting these stuff !!
I must resist !!
love the setting ::)
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Great stuff Akula :-*
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Really interesting proyect!!!!! and very nice miniatures man.
Congratulations
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Cool! 8)
It’s also nice to see that Great War Minis and Musketeer Miniatures look so well side by side!
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Quality stuff!! They match in really well. :)
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Thanks.
looking forward to picking up some more at the York show, including the new goodies....
:)
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Very nice and nice to see the 3ACW is starting to get somewhere!
Rudi
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Hope to have some reinforcements soon - picked up the Battalion Commanders, & Lewis gunners from Musketeer at York, not to mention the new BUF minis.
Was good to meet Bill & Hazel, did send a few fresh bodies in their direction, so hopefully some new recruits for BCW.
On a very practical note, i've now bought 60+ minis from musketeer, and can honestly say there is NO FLASH AT ALL on any of the minis - lovely sculpts from My Hicks, and very well cast, so straight out of the bag, onto the painting table.
Contrast this with some minis i bought at Christmas, which are still in the packaging as i've got better things to do, than trim the worms of flash from them.
Top Marks!
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I missed those! Beautiful. The people that have till now jumped onto the 3rd ECW wave, are producing some amazing works. It's inspiring to see so much creativity and drive.
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I'm trying so hard to resist this! Help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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I'm trying so hard to resist this! Help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
It would be an interesting topic for your degree ;)
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Whats the degree - Military History?
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Whats the degree - Military History?
It is, the lucky sod
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Whats the degree - Military History?
It is, the lucky sod
Afraid so and it's great. Lots of field trips (including one to Salute in March! :D). I've just started a module on the SCW which adds to the temptation! As Lowtardog said the BCW would be an interesting angle on the coursework. Hmmmmmmmm..... got me thinking now.
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I'm trying so hard to resist this! Help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Give in to the Dark Side (I did, it's lovely there... lol)
Rudi
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We tried to work on a few more converts to the period with the game we did at Penarth. Solway were there with the sourcebook etc. before catching the 2pm train to get to York and Musketeer were airing the new militia greens as well as stocking all the new BUF figures etc. (which I HAD to buy).
We were also feeding Mr Hicks ideas for sculpts (militiaman with dog on lead etc.). Might see some of them yet.
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Whats the degree - Military History?
It is, the lucky sod
Afraid so and it's great. Lots of field trips (including one to Salute in March! :D). I've just started a module on the SCW which adds to the temptation! As Lowtardog said the BCW would be an interesting angle on the coursework. Hmmmmmmmm..... got me thinking now.
Don't apologise - i've got a BA (Hons) in War Studies from KCL :)
Always a good way to add to your wargaming book collection, and some of our field trips were very interesting ... Porton Down...RAF bases etc etc
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Whats the degree - Military History?
It is, the lucky sod
Afraid so and it's great. Lots of field trips (including one to Salute in March! :D). I've just started a module on the SCW which adds to the temptation! As Lowtardog said the BCW would be an interesting angle on the coursework. Hmmmmmmmm..... got me thinking now.
Don't apologise - i've got a BA (Hons) in War Studies from KCL :)
Always a good way to add to your wargaming book collection, and some of our field trips were very interesting ... Porton Down...RAF bases etc etc
Aha! Then you'll appreciate the pleasant pain I'm going through. I'm in year two so halfway there. I'm at Wolverhampton, not as prestigious as KCL but a good laugh.
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This is looking very interesting, any chance of seeing a demo game at a wargame event in the future?
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I think someone ran one up at Penarth, end of Jan.
There are some plans for some more games soon - am afraid with the GWP site down at the moment i'm not sure where/when, but doubtless there will be more talk on LAF about them soon.
Partizan was one possibility being discussed, but i guess it depends upon whether we can get a table or not.
Basically keep your eye out!
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They are a couple f close up photos on the Yahoo group of figures but not the whole game
Angus Kostam has some nice little skirmish reports on his site
http://www.edinburghwargames.com/Journal%2030.htm
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Yes - Rob and Mort ran a demo game at Penarth. I assisted in leading the BUF forces to a bit of a mauling in taking East Quantoxhead and getting repulsed from the churchyard at West Quantoxhead.
There's talk of doing a game at the Exeter show in May - I've been asked if I'd assist again by Simon of Solway, I believe Rob is considering it still. Watch this space...
We may do some more shows - those of us at Penarth are largely based in the South West of England but there's widespread interest in the period across the UK. Involvement from Rob and me is rather dependant on our involvement with our "other hobby" (re-enactments).
We'll try to spread the word if we are doing something.
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Hi,
Just a quick question - who manufactures the driver in the Rolls??
I'm putting together a smilar sized force of Scots Republican infantry from the Gordon Highlanders rgt and my staff car and truck (also Matchbox diecasts) require drivers.
I'll post piccies when painting is done.
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I just hope with all my heart nobody thinks of starting an Weird 3rd ECW... I hate all things zombie in wargaming (just a thought).
Rudi
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I just hope with all my heart nobody thinks of starting an Weird 3rd ECW... I hate all things zombie in wargaming (just a thought).
Rudi
Weeell... anybody remember that Disney ´classic´ "Bedknobs and Broomsticks"? It had Cliché Nazi (TM) submarine commandos being repelled by summoned animated suits of armour... now substitute BUF blackshirts for the Cliché Nazis (TM), throw in the restless spirits of Jack the Ripper and Sweeney Todd, with a little Nessie for that amphibious assault scenario, and hey presto.
lol
Sorry, but you had it coming, old chap.
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Just a quick question - who manufactures the driver in the Rolls??
A Rafm motorcycle cop. Use a pair of pliers to scrunch his legs into a seated position ;)
If you find another suitable driver, you can always do a headswop - Woodbine have service dress caps, and Anglian also do an extensive range of heads.
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I just hope with all my heart nobody thinks of starting an Weird 3rd ECW... I hate all things zombie in wargaming (just a thought).
Rudi
well....in all seriousness, it was suggested to me, as i have a bit of a zombie thing going, but i'm having too much fun with ECW3 to muck about with WECW3.
The whole appeal of the "period" to IMHO is the homemade, or "quaint" vehicles, unfiroms etc. As soon as you make it "Weird" people will get carried away with powerarmoured troops, supertanks etc, which misses the point somewhat.
Anyway, still painting LOTS of zeds....150 and counting since last May. :)
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Don't Sloppy Jalopy do a range of driver/passengers? Are any of them convertible for your purposes?
Sorry - I just don't get the Zombie craze - perhaps I don't watch the right films.
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Had forgotten about the SJ ones - will check them out - thanks!
Apart from enjoying George Romero films, the appeal in zombies games personally is that the players can all be on the same side - indeed you can play a solo game, with the mindless zombies reacting in a similar way to the Indians in a Pony Wars type game.
There is no right or wrong way to paint them.
There is no army list that you have to adher to, and no minimum/maximum number of figures needed.
You can use whatever "survivor" figures you have to hand.
No politics, or pro-undead campaigners turning up at a demo game.
You get to say "BRAAAIIINNNSSS" now and again....
:)
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Allies of the Duke of York Regt, are the local Anglican Militia. Bought some painted Foundry minis at Varnaptak at the weekend, but ended up repainting the hands, face, weapons, webbing, pouches, bases and giving them a wash....expensive minis ofr essentially a blue basecoat ;D
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030171.jpg)
Another Diecast truck - think it is a Lledo, but can't be sure - painted with the White Rose of the House of York...ie Prince George, the rightful King.... ;) Musketeer mini for scale purposes.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030172.jpg)
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Anyone out there know of 1939/40 highlanders in battledress and kilt rather than using WW1 figs - the great far figs i have are nice but have jerkins sheepskins and stuff and I dont really see my republican gordon highlanders driving the the BUF and Auxiliaries from NE scotland in that kind of gear.
I plan on using the Musketeer figs for my "royalist" BUF, Auxiliaries (RIC and B&T's) and their IRA Flying Column as the "republican" Union of Dockers, Granite and Millworkers Alliance, possibly mixed in with Anglian militia figs.
I think the WW1 Highlander figs look at little too "early" if you know what I mean...
Any ideas
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I think Brigade Gmaes do WW1 hihglanders but the pics are quite small on their site, might be less WW1 if possible
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We'll (well Paul) will be doing Highlanders in the fairly near future. ;)
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Ooh...in 30's battledress rather than ww1...sold to the emir on your right lol.
I have a whole mini campaign planned. Aberdeen was quite anti fascist in the 30's and I know one of Mosleys men was chased out of the town after a riot with trades unionists, the leaders of whom went off to fight in Spain. So its as good a place as Glasgow to kick off events in a British Civil War
Background is this.
1936 December Riot in Aberdeen sees barricades erected by dock and mill workers at the harbour and other areas of the city protesting at changes in government. Intervention by police eventually restores order and barricades are removed.
1937 May - Continued fighting in harbour areas between BUF men and left wing groups. First deaths from shootings. Auxiliary Constables intervene on BUF side and 86 people killed as fighting breaks out across Harbour and City Centre.
June – Declaration of Edinburgh, Scottish Council Formed. 16th June - Local “Dock, Granite and Mill Workers Alliance” marches on Castle St Barracks and demand weapons to defend themselves. Captain Forbes-Leslie of the Gordon Highlanders orders his men to stand down and the marchers retrieve 120 rifles and ammunition. Flying column of Auxiliaries arrives and heavy fighting breaks out with casualties on both sides, City Hospital cannot cope with wounded. Alliance men are driven back towards Broadhill area as night begins to fall. Apalled at the loss of life and feeling it has been caused by his action Forbes-Leslie telephones Gordon Barracks and informs them that he has deployed his men and is marching to bring an end to the situation. At 1940hrs, elements of the Gordon Highlanders led by Captain Forbes-Leslie open fire on BUF and Auxiliary forces at the foot of Urquhart Road and by 2100 have secured the Broadhill-Queens Links area. 0000hrs 17th June Gordon Highlanders at Gordon Barracks muster and march down King St disarming Auxiliaries remaining at King St Barracks. BUF barracks at Torry Point Battery is surrounded by Alliance men and fighting takes place there at first light. BUF forces break out and retreat down the South bank of the Dee where they are met by several truck loads of reinforcements from the camps at Balmoral and Haddo….
The actual scenario will be an approximate refight of the battle of the Bridge of Dee from the civil war where Montrose tried to break into Aberdeen. As you can see I like to put a lot of local detail into my scenarios, all the roads and locations mentioned are real. I plan on using T&T for this with 4-6 units on each side.
I'll keep you posted.
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Ooh...in 30's battledress rather than ww1...sold to the emir on your right lol.
I have a whole mini campaign planned. Aberdeen was quite anti fascist in the 30's and I know one of Mosleys men was chased out of the town after a riot with trades unionists, the leaders of whom went off to fight in Spain. So its as good a place as Glasgow to kick off events in a British Civil War
Background is this.
1936 December Riot in Aberdeen sees barricades erected by dock and mill workers at the harbour and other areas of the city protesting at changes in government. Intervention by police eventually restores order and barricades are removed.
1937 May - Continued fighting in harbour areas between BUF men and left wing groups. First deaths from shootings. Auxiliary Constables intervene on BUF side and 86 people killed as fighting breaks out across Harbour and City Centre.
June – Declaration of Edinburgh, Scottish Council Formed. 16th June - Local “Dock, Granite and Mill Workers Alliance” marches on Castle St Barracks and demand weapons to defend themselves. Captain Forbes-Leslie of the Gordon Highlanders orders his men to stand down and the marchers retrieve 120 rifles and ammunition. Flying column of Auxiliaries arrives and heavy fighting breaks out with casualties on both sides, City Hospital cannot cope with wounded. Alliance men are driven back towards Broadhill area as night begins to fall. Apalled at the loss of life and feeling it has been caused by his action Forbes-Leslie telephones Gordon Barracks and informs them that he has deployed his men and is marching to bring an end to the situation. At 1940hrs, elements of the Gordon Highlanders led by Captain Forbes-Leslie open fire on BUF and Auxiliary forces at the foot of Urquhart Road and by 2100 have secured the Broadhill-Queens Links area. 0000hrs 17th June Gordon Highlanders at Gordon Barracks muster and march down King St disarming Auxiliaries remaining at King St Barracks. BUF barracks at Torry Point Battery is surrounded by Alliance men and fighting takes place there at first light. BUF forces break out and retreat down the South bank of the Dee where they are met by several truck loads of reinforcements from the camps at Balmoral and Haddo….
The actual scenario will be an approximate refight of the battle of the Bridge of Dee from the civil war where Montrose tried to break into Aberdeen. As you can see I like to put a lot of local detail into my scenarios, all the roads and locations mentioned are real. I plan on using T&T for this with 4-6 units on each side.
I'll keep you posted.
Very very interesting.
Anxiously waiting for the development of the scenario and pics!
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West Wind have some Early Scots but I have not seen a photo of them.
1940WGB2-SHS - Highlanders
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I really like were you are going with this. I would really like to do some thing like that in the US but my local area. Las Vegas Navada, was a small mineing town with a few brothels, post office, and some saloons. :(
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I really like were you are going with this. I would really like to do some thing like that in the US but my local area. Las Vegas Navada, was a small mineing town with a few brothels, post office, and some saloons. :(
Sounds great for a gunfight, or a zombie game though.... ;)
How about you make a unit of US volunteers...? You could always expand the local area a bit - "local" in British terms is generally somewhat different from countries with more room to spread out in... :)
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I really like were you are going with this. I would really like to do some thing like that in the US but my local area. Las Vegas Navada, was a small mineing town with a few brothels, post office, and some saloons. :(
How about a rising of the indian nations with national guard being called in, I know that gaming indians or native americans is a touchy subject to some American Cousins but it would make a great secanrio for guerilla raids etc
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I really like were you are going with this. I would really like to do some thing like that in the US but my local area. Las Vegas Navada, was a small mineing town with a few brothels, post office, and some saloons. :(
How about a rising of the indian nations with national guard being called in, I know that gaming indians or native americans is a touchy subject to some American Cousins but it would make a great secanrio for guerilla raids etc
You could even use the Sikh cavalry..... ....
I'll get my coat :o
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I really like were you are going with this. I would really like to do some thing like that in the US but my local area. Las Vegas Navada, was a small mineing town with a few brothels, post office, and some saloons. :(
How about a rising of the indian nations with national guard being called in, I know that gaming indians or native americans is a touchy subject to some American Cousins but it would make a great secanrio for guerilla raids etc
You could even use the Sikh cavalry..... ....
I'll get my coat :o
I will help you ;)
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Commisarmoody, we went along the lines of your thinking. For our group the British aspect failed to catch much attention but the idea of an interwar game set in the US and Canada sparked more interest.
We played our first game, a trap for an army patrol, yesterday. I'll try to get a battle report up this week.
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I think the WW1 Highlander figs look at little too "early" if you know what I mean...
You'd be one safer ground using the WWI figures. The battledress and WWII webbing wasn't introduced until late 1938. The Highlanders resisted it's introduction because the kilt would not be worn with it. You'll find some pics about of the 'Phoney War' period in 1940 with Highlanders still wearing kilt and SD tunics in France.
Oddly it appears that the 'Conscripted Militias' were first to get the battledress, while line units had to exhaust their own stores first.
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I guess I could steal a few notes from the crimson skys fictions, and have some ground campaigns that way. I Mean it dose offer qhite a few locations and new contres to fight over.
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Jim,
Thanks for that. I'll push on with my Gt War figs then and post up the results.
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And just to help out the Mustasha has volunteered to produce some Aberdeen tenements and a couple of units of naval mutineers from Invergordon.
I know, its a long way from Istanbul to Aberdeen but there's always the Orient Express (murder I believe, but you can change for Aberdeen at Bowanni Junction)
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As promised here is a shot of my Great War Mini's Gordon Highlanders. This is my first figure, done as a test - the last 28mm fig I painted in tartan was a GW McDeath Clansman sometime in the 80's!
I used Vallejo English Uniform and Khaki for the uniform and kit, Vallejo Flesh, Mahogany and Gunmetal for the skin and rifle. The Kilt was done with Citadel Regal Blue (darkened slightly) and a Dark Angels Green pattern painted onto the pleat and in two strips across the rear. Finally a Sunburst Yellow overstripe was added with a fine brush, over the green.
The whole fig was then given a Citadel Ogryn Flesh wash. Im pretty pleased with the results and the wash adds just enough depth and character.
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/s_insch/100_1766.jpg)
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/s_insch/100_1768.jpg)
Just need to work on my picture taking skills (thanks for the cropping info!)
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Just need to work on my picture taking skills - how do u crop these things on here!
If you haven't already, get a photo bucket account, and crop it there. ;)
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Akky.... any good for the Anglicans?
(http://www.boltactionminiatures.co.uk/sizeimage.php?size=320&image=photos/vic1.jpg)
http://www.boltactionminiatures.co.uk/product.php?ItemID=323
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I like that- whose is it?
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Link is below.. Bolt Action.. so a Paul Hicks sculpt vampire hunter
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Tempting! Perhaps I will do an Anglican unit after all!
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Great War Miniatures do a Padre in one of their packs as well.
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Got the book a few weeks back and have been thinking about what forces and have decided to do the Northern Army verses the Rebelious Scots.
For the Northern Army I was thinking some Crusader early war figures for my command unit with some Musketeer Minatures BEF as Terratorials in support. A couple of Cheiftan MKVI's and a Crusader 2pdr as my heavy support units, maybe even a Copplestone Vickers Medium.
As for the Scots I'm thinking maybe Musketeers Black and Tans with light blue bonnets as a New Covenanters force plus some basic militia forces. A couple of armoured cars, not sure which yet, and maybe an 18pdr in support.
Any thoughts of other figures that may go with these forces?
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Got the book a few weeks back and have been thinking about what forces and have decided to do the Northern Army verses the Rebelious Scots.
For the Northern Army I was thinking some Crusader early war figures for my command unit with some Musketeer Minatures BEF as Terratorials in support. A couple of Cheiftan MKVI's and a Crusader 2pdr as my heavy support units, maybe even a Copplestone Vickers Medium.
As for the Scots I'm thinking maybe Musketeers Black and Tans with light blue bonnets as a New Covenanters force plus some basic militia forces. A couple of armoured cars, not sure which yet, and maybe an 18pdr in support.
Any thoughts of other figures that may go with these forces?
Renegade have WW1 in glenngarys which may work, they also have a vicker team - one drawback though is they would be bigger than the others mentioned.
I was looking at the black and Tans for my Tyneside Scottish Terriers :D
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I was looking at the black and Tans for my Tyneside Scottish Terriers :D
lol
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I was looking at the black and Tans for my Tyneside Scottish Terriers :D
lol
You may laugh, just realised it read like the dogs myself ;D :D
The Tyneside Scottish were territorial regiments and Territorials were known as Terriers lol
This is their headress so you know why I picked he figures
(http://www.wwiimemories.com/images/gavinclark.jpg)
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err..
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/BungleB/Innsmouth-1.jpg)
LOL well you did say foreign volunteers
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lol
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Akky.... any good for the Anglicans?
(http://www.boltactionminiatures.co.uk/sizeimage.php?size=320&image=photos/vic1.jpg)
http://www.boltactionminiatures.co.uk/product.php?ItemID=323
hmm...very frothy - had forgotten about the BAM chap! Already have the GWM padre, painted up, plus the Foundry "Home Guard" Vicar somewhere on my paint table... ;)
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The Great war Highlanders are worth a look and ive just sent for their early war Scots too. Ive a pic of the Scots Greys in 1940 and they are just WW1 style cavalry in SD hats- again Great War has the gear.
I picked up the Brigade Miniatures scots command in Northstars bargain basement! quite useful figures too
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its ok i was just giveing you shit, its a good idea actialy I might steal it myself for when I get my force/force's set up.
I was looking at the black and Tans for my Tyneside Scottish Terriers :D
lol
You may laugh, just realised it read like the dogs myself ;D :D
The Tyneside Scottish were territorial regiments and Territorials were known as Terriers lol
This is their headress so you know why I picked he figures
(http://www.wwiimemories.com/images/gavinclark.jpg)
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Id planned to use the B&T's as auxiliaries and the RIC as police. The B&T look suitably paramilitary and mean that the BUF figures are kept to a minimum for use as shock troops, they dont look quite "soldierly" enough to serve in the front line - but I can see them being trucked in to shoot up trades union militias and stiffen aux units.
Should have my Gordons finished this weekend and start my 1/48 Airfix Hawker Fury
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Been a while since i've posted an update on this thread, but here are the latest members of the Duke of York's Own Regiment.
First up some more riflemen/officers - mainly Musketeer Miniatures, with some GWM mixed in.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030810-1.jpg)
One slightly blurred Cyclist squad (Foundry), and some Great War Miniatures Support Weapons for the Yorkist Front.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030854-1.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030852-1.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/A%20Very%20British%20Civil%20War/P1030851-1.jpg)
...and, and some more vehicles...
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/AKULADEEP/P1030776-1.jpg)
:)
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great stuff :-*
Some very nice figures.
Really like the vehicles :-*
Where are the buses from?
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Busses are 1:50 scale Corgis
Try on Fleabay - the larger ones are AEC Regals - very common in 1938. The slightly smaller one (nearer to the camera) is an OB Bedford, whcih technically speaking only went into mass production after the war was over, but there were some around in 1937/38.
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Now those look cool I must float the idea of A Very British Civil War to the guys in the club :D
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They are great, I really like your vehicles with the Yorkshire Rose on! The cyclists are cool too.
Such a good group of minis!
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Just came across this topic, those figures and vehicles look fab.
scotty 8)