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Title: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on January 23, 2009, 05:32:02 AM
Gentlemen,
I got a very nice email from Richard at HLBSC today  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D :

Dear Peter,

I will be doing a final run of the VSF Cavalry shortly as a few people have asked and especially because of the support of gamers like yourself and those on Lead Adventure who have chipped in to get some of the other current 28mm lines. I've attached a list so if you could let me know what you would like. Also if you could make this common knowledge it would help greatly as this will be the final run.

All the best
Richard

Cavalry
BCN1   Household cavalry.         2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN1a   Household cavalry command.   3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00
BCN2   Dragoons   .         2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN2a   Dragoon Command.                   3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00
BCN3   Scots Greys.         2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN3a   Scots Greys Command.      3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00
BCN4   Hussars.            2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN4a   Hussar command.         3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00
BCN5   Lancers.            2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN5a   Lancer Command.         3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00
BCN6   Caribiniers.         2 figures, 2 horses.   £4.00
BCN6a   Caribineres command.      3 figures, 3 horses.   £6.00



The HLBS Co.'s guide to British cavalry regiments.
Below is listed all the British cavalry regiments of the late Nineteenth century with the appropriate code for which set of figures to use.
1st Life Guards.               BCN1   Household cavalry.
2nd Life Guards.               BCN1   Household cavalry.
Royal Horse Guards. (Blues & Royal's)         BCN1   Household cavalry.
1st (Kings) Dragoon Guards.            BCN2   Dragoons.
2nd Dragoon Guards (Queens Bays)         BCN2   Dragoons.
3rd (Prince of Wales's) Dragoon Guards.      BCN2   Dragoons.
4th (Royal Irish.) Dragoon Guards.         BCN2   Dragoons.
5th (Princess Charlotte of Wales) Dragoon Guards.   BCN2   Dragoons.
6th Dragoon Guards. (Carabiniers)         BCN6   Caribiniers.
7th (The Princess Royal's) Dragoon Guards.      BCN2   Dragoons.
1st (Royal) Dragoons.            BCN2   Dragoons.
2nd Dragoons.(Royal Scots Greys)         BCN3   Scots Greys.
3rd(kings Own) Hussars.            BCN4   Hussars.
4th (Queens Own) Hussars.            BCN4   Hussars.
5th(Royal Irish) Lancers.            BCN4   Lancers.
6th(Inniskilling) Dragoons.            BCN2   Dragoons.
7th(Queens Own) Hussars.            BCN4   Hussars.
8th(Kings Royal Irish) Hussars.         BCN4   Hussars.
9th(Queens Royal) Lancers.            BCN5   Lancers.
10th(Prince Of Wales's Own) Royal Hussars.      BCN4   Hussars.
11th(Prince Albert's Own) Hussars.         BCN4   Hussars.
12th(Prince Of Wales's Royal) Lancers.      BCN5   Lancers.
13th Hussars.               BCN4   Hussars.
14th(Kings) Hussars            BCN4   Hussars.
15th (The Kings) Hussars.            BCN4   Hussars.
16th (The Queens) Lancers.            BCN5   Lancers.
17th(The Duke Of Cambridge's Own) Lancers.      BCN5   Lancers.
18th(Queen Mary's Own) Hussars.         BCN4   Hussars.
19th(Queen Alexandra's Own Royal) Hussars.      BCN4   Hussars.
20th Hussars.               BCN4   Hussars.
21st (Empress of India's) Lancers.         BCN5   Lancers.
21st Hussars*               BCN4    Hussars.
Note in 1897 the 21st Hussars were reorganised as the 21st Lancers, with of course the subsequent change
of  uniform.

Here's your chance to stock up on goodies before they disappear.......maybe forever.  The figures do not currently appear on Richard's website.  However his email is in the Contacts tab on the Homepage (enquiriesAThlbs.fsbusiness.co.uk), and IIRC he does take Paypal.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: thejammedgatling on January 23, 2009, 08:21:59 AM
Sterling Moose...that sounds good. I like the HLBS stuff and had planned an order anyway. But have you or anyone on the forum got any pictures of any of these? Has anyone seen them? Please do post them so we can all have a look.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Thunderchicken on January 23, 2009, 08:42:39 AM
Sterling Moose...that sounds good. I like the HLBS stuff and had planned an order anyway. But have you or anyone on the forum got any pictures of any of these? Has anyone seen them? Please do post them so we can all have a look.

Bloody marvellous news, thanks for sharing Sterling.

I'm thinking about geting some of the lancers (obviously armed with magnetic explosives) and the Household Cavalry. As theammedgatling said are there any pics floating about anywhere?
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Malamute on January 23, 2009, 08:44:29 AM
Sterling Moose...that sounds good. I like the HLBS stuff and had planned an order anyway. But have you or anyone on the forum got any pictures of any of these? Has anyone seen them? Please do post them so we can all have a look.

Bloody marvellous news, thanks for sharing Sterling.

I'm thinking about geting some of the lancers (obviously armed with magnetic explosives) and the Household Cavalry. As theammedgatling said are there any pics floating about anywhere?

I have some Household cavalry, still unpainted. I'll try and get a photo up over the weekend.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Thunderchicken on January 23, 2009, 09:11:25 AM
I have some Household cavalry, still unpainted. I'll try and get a photo up over the weekend.

They dont like it up 'em you know.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on January 23, 2009, 09:27:55 AM
I have some photos of the Cav, but cannot in my Luddite mind find out how to post them here!

Nick
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Malamute on January 23, 2009, 09:36:37 AM
I have some photos of the Cav, but cannot in my Luddite mind find out how to post them here!

Nick

Do you have a Photobucket account or something similar like an image hosting site?

If so all you need to do is copy and paste the Image code from the photo into your post here.

Alternatively if you become a supporting member here you can open your own gallery.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on January 23, 2009, 09:38:21 AM
How do I do the supporting members bit?
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Malamute on January 23, 2009, 09:52:07 AM
How do I do the supporting members bit?

Bottom of the homepage, is a link saying Lead Adventure Support. Click on there. You may well find the instructions in German. If you have trouble drop Prof Witcheimer a PM and he will guide you through.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 23, 2009, 09:56:50 AM
Excellent news!

Unfortunately, this has thrown my February buying plan into complete disarray as they have become "must have" number 1.   :-[
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on January 23, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
Cheers Nick,

my German is restricted to buying beer and asking if they have seen my panzer! I have also emailed some phots to old Moose, 6 photos Blues, Royals and Dragoons with some Foundry Prussian Cav and Helion and Co Uhlans for comparison. If I fail in my task hopefully he will be able to post,

Tally Ho!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 23, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
 >:(

Damn!

Couldn't help myself.  Have already sent Richard an email with an order.

My wife will have me shot at dawn...
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: JollyBob on January 23, 2009, 10:24:21 AM
Well, just emailed to see if I can get hold of some of the Dragoons. JollyBob Senior has been after some in Victorian uniform for absolutely ages.

If they are as good as everyone says, there may be an order for some of the other regiments too. The Daddy does like his massed ranks of parade dress cavalry.  :)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Calimero on January 23, 2009, 01:54:31 PM

>:(

Damn!

Couldn't help myself.  Have already sent Richard an email with an order.

My wife will have me shot at dawn...

At least you’ll die as an happy man! lol
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Malamute on January 23, 2009, 02:05:08 PM

>:(

Damn!

Couldn't help myself.  Have already sent Richard an email with an order.

My wife will have me shot at dawn...

At least you’ll die as an happy man! lol

Most likely we will all be lined up against the wall together, and its probably going to be a very long line lol
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Orctrader on January 23, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
I keep hearing great things about these but never seem to see any pictures.

Is it foolish of me to believe that if they are as good as I hear and there were photos on the Website and some painted examples they would be big sellers?   ???
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on January 23, 2009, 04:35:58 PM
Here's a web archive photo of BCN2 Dragoons from the RLBPS website.

(http://web.archive.org/web/20050208100933/rlbps.com/bcn2.jpg)

I wonder if HLBS woud cast infantry as well if there was enough demand?  Here's a web archive photo of BAN10 Infantry Advancing in Glengarry, also from the RLBPS website.

(http://web.archive.org/web/20041208140922/rlbps.com/ban10.jpg)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 23, 2009, 06:21:01 PM
Bloody Excellent!

The Dragoons have the horse hair plume.   :-*
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on January 23, 2009, 06:58:41 PM
Those might just work as US cavalry in dress helmet (given a conversion via paintjob).

I just got a note back from Richard saying that he's not going to cast the infantry, as "I'd end up with hundreds of figures that just wouldn't shift due to the number of molds."
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 23, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Those might just work as US cavalry in dress helmet (given a conversion via paintjob).


 ;)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on January 23, 2009, 11:30:57 PM
OK Gents,
The latest from Richard:
"......I'm planning to get the casting done at the beginning of February so that should give people a week or so to get their orders in. I'll send out PayPal invoices when the figures are ready."

Here's one from Nick:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee247/sterlingmoose/VSF/hlbs1.jpg)


"Book Early" as they say in some parts.

Sterling
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Chairface on January 24, 2009, 01:10:58 PM
So tempting. Those lancers are promising.....
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on January 24, 2009, 01:32:39 PM
The Uhlans are Helion and Co and the Prussian Cuirassier are Foundry in the shot for comparison!

Tally Ho!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 24, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
BTW...

Can anyone tell me what headgear the Lancer and Hussar figures have?
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Malamute on January 24, 2009, 02:00:14 PM
I am presuming the hussars will have a busby and the lancers a chapska similar to the Prussian Uhlan?
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Chairface on January 24, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
The Uhlans are Helion and Co and the Prussian Cuirassier are Foundry in the shot for comparison!

Tally Ho!

My bad  :-X
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on January 26, 2009, 04:16:01 AM
I am presuming the hussars will have a busby and the lancers a chapska similar to the Prussian Uhlan?
Correct.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on January 26, 2009, 09:13:56 AM
Thanks...

Just wanted to be clear on that since I've never seen any photos of the miniatures.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 05, 2009, 02:53:05 AM
WooHoo!

Just got invoiced from Richard!  Hopefully I'll have a couple regiments of cavalry soon!

Thanks Richard, really looking forward to the miniatures!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 05, 2009, 03:36:04 AM
Me too.  Richard says that only 7 people ordered but that the quantities involved made it worthwhile casting them up.

7 must be the lucky number as I ordered 7 Regiments, and bought 7 lottery tickets this week.  I'm feeling pretty confident that the $1,000,000 will be mine.  Then I'll be able to convince Richard to dust off the infantry moulds too!!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 05, 2009, 10:38:46 AM
I might get a couple more... but would like to see the sculpts first hand.

Here's hoping they are nice.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: JollyBob on February 05, 2009, 01:47:53 PM
Just got my confirmation and a paypal invoice from Richard, so these little beauties should be on their way to me fairly soon!  :)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Thunderchicken on February 05, 2009, 02:17:07 PM
Just got my confirmation and a paypal invoice from Richard, so these little beauties should be on their way to me fairly soon!  :)

Same here, Lancers and Household cav on the way.  :)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 05, 2009, 02:38:41 PM
"I might get a couple more... but would like to see the sculpts first hand."

I hope Richard has cast a few extra up for late/additional sales, otherwise you might be out of luck.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on February 05, 2009, 04:19:13 PM
Yeah, he did say this would be the last casting.  He might have been waiting on payment, however, before having them done, so you may still have time to get additional figs in.

I got my invoice this morning.  Some of every type, for a total of eight units.  I bought more than I really needed, but as it was the last chance...
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Chairface on February 05, 2009, 08:17:06 PM
I wanted to get some.... And then an unexpected bill came in..... I know that I will regret it eventually. Oh well, at least I got some Mounties.

Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Ray Rivers on February 06, 2009, 03:11:25 AM
He might have been waiting on payment, however, before having them done, so you may still have time to get additional figs in.


I know it is a risk, but hopefully he will have a few spares left over.  He told me in one email that he wouldn't invoice until the figures were ready to ship.  So hopefully we'll be getting them soon.

I ordered a regiment of Dragoons and Lancers, but I could easily go for an additional regiment of Guards and Hussars if the castings come out well.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: JollyBob on February 07, 2009, 07:32:28 PM
Arrived today - Wooot! They are lovely. JollyBob Senior will like them, I am sure. I'll post pictures when they are painted to his satisfaction.  :)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Chairface on February 08, 2009, 03:16:19 AM
Bob. could you post pics of them unpainted too? I'm really curious.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: JollyBob on February 08, 2009, 09:32:48 AM
Yeah, shouldn't be a problem. Give me a little while to find the camera and I'll see what I can do.

Edit:

Right, this is the best I could do with bare metal, sorry if you can't make out the details too well.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/2att001a.jpg) (http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/2att003a.jpg)

And a comparrison shot with an Artizan figure for scale:

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/GrunterPulpit/2att004a.jpg)

The Dragoons all have the same basic body casting, but come with seperate right arms, with a choice of drawn sabre (as shown) or bugle or empty hand to take a wire pennant staff in the case of the command set. All the horse poses are the same, so not very dynamic, but perfect for state occasions.  ;)

The only slight fault I have with them is that the horses could have been slightly bulkier, but other than that, they are lovely little models, with very little flash and fit together very easily.

The Oldfella will be pleased, I think.  :)
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Chairface on February 08, 2009, 10:42:20 PM
Thank you! That was very kind.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 09, 2009, 01:07:08 AM
Looking good JollyBob.  I'm looking forward to seeing my Postie limping to the door under the weight of my parcel.  I just hope that Customs don't pay too close an interest - I got hit with customs fees on my last order  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on February 09, 2009, 04:38:16 AM
By the by, if anyone ordered the Lancer command pack, please let me know when they arrive.  I passed, as I had some on hand, but I now think I may have made a mistake, as the figures look miscast.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Thunderchicken on February 13, 2009, 06:08:21 PM
By the by, if anyone ordered the Lancer command pack, please let me know when they arrive.  I passed, as I had some on hand, but I now think I may have made a mistake, as the figures look miscast.

Tommy20, my Lancer command pack arrived today and the figures look fine. What do you think is wrong with yours?

If I get a chance over the weekend I'll try and get a pic or two for you but being caught with wargaming goodies over Valentines weekend could result in an embarrassing trip to A&E!  :o
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on February 13, 2009, 07:26:51 PM
The lancer officer's scabbard is very short (shorter than the blade of the sword), and has no detail on it (like the drag on the OR's swords).  After discovering this, I compared it to my Household Cavalry officers, and theirs are similarly bereft of detail, but are the correct length. 

I've since done some more searching through photo's, and think the lack of detail is correct (as the ornamentation on the real thing is rather small to appear on a 28mm fig), however the length is still suspect.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on February 14, 2009, 06:28:30 AM
UPDATE!

Part of my order arrived today (Richard told me it would come in two separate packages), and I recieved a miscast hussar whose scabbard looks exactly like the lancer officers in question.  Since I have a plethora of hussars to compare to, I know how it was intended to look, as well as what the miscast one looks like.  I think it's just a matter of the metal not filling the narrow crevice of the scabbard mold.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Thunderchicken on February 14, 2009, 07:50:29 AM
The lancer officer's scabbard is very short (shorter than the blade of the sword), and has no detail on it (like the drag on the OR's swords).  After discovering this, I compared it to my Household Cavalry officers, and theirs are similarly bereft of detail, but are the correct length. 

I've since done some more searching through photo's, and think the lack of detail is correct (as the ornamentation on the real thing is rather small to appear on a 28mm fig), however the length is still suspect.

Just checked mine and see what you mean. the scabbards are a wee bit short but are in proportion to the sabres. Overall the figures are excellent so it's easily overlooked. Looking forward to seeing your lot painted up.   
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Tommy20 on February 15, 2009, 06:11:46 AM
Just checked mine and see what you mean. the scabbards are a wee bit short but are in proportion to the sabres.

That's just it.  The ones I have aren't in proportion.  They're quite a bit shorter than the swords supplied with any of the figures in the line.

Looking forward to seeing your lot painted up.

Me too!  Especially since I started collecting these when they first came out!!!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 15, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Ooooooh, got my first package on Friday.....................more lead for the lead god?  The Mountain grows higher, I did think about taking The Pledge this year - I'm glad I didn't.
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on February 16, 2009, 04:20:50 PM
Ooooooh, got my first package on Friday.....................more lead for the lead god?  The Mountain grows higher, I did think about taking The Pledge this year - I'm glad I didn't.

Pete you had a huge lead mountain in 1986!!!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 18, 2009, 12:47:34 AM
I sold a lot of it before emigrating, now I'm just making up lost ground!!!
Title: Re: HLBSC Victorian British Cavalry - Available NOW, but not for long!!!
Post by: nickinsomerset on February 22, 2009, 06:18:23 PM
And a pity you cannot find the deutchmarks for the HLBSC infantry! Never mind I shall offer them here before I go the ebay route!