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Title: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 08 August 2016, 06:23:41 PM
I have decided to have a go at converting SP2 to use with samurai and Koreans, it's a period I have always loved and think that with a bit of work it could be done. I will put my thoughts up on here in a hope that I will get some feed back on what I propose...
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Nick2729 on 08 August 2016, 07:26:28 PM
Fantastic - will follow this as I would love to use the rules for this period. Many thanks for your efforts - looking forward to it.

 :)
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: OSHIROmodels on 08 August 2016, 09:12:32 PM
Did I send you the SP 1 version I did?

Dunno if it would work for the new version as I haven't played it yet.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 08 August 2016, 09:13:47 PM
Yes you did send it, there are elements that are the same but troop capabilities are a little different in SP2. Think I could work well for sengoku era, especially with the use of the command cards, could help to give it the right flavour, I hope



First ideas

Elite.
Samurai and monks
Regulars.
Ashigaru
Ronin
Militia.
Ikko ikki
Peasants

Skirmishes
Archers and teppo

All cavalry are impact

Ashigaru can be armed with Yari,nagae Yari, teppo, bow

Bow- 1 dice, reload 0, fire at - 1, reload 1 with no penalty. Range 0-12 effective 12-24 long samurai count as 1 better cover, in open counts as light cover
Teppo 1 dice, reload 2, 0-12 close,12-24 effective, 24-36 long +1 at short range,

Fisticuffs

Missile troops count as fighting without bayonets -2d unless in formation with Yari/nagae Yari.

That will do to start
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Kommando_J on 09 August 2016, 03:49:41 PM
You're doing Gods work here, i've been tempted almightily by Sharpe Practice 2 but finding no list I like am considering writing my own either the 1st or second opium war.
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Codsticker on 09 August 2016, 04:23:18 PM
I have decided to have a go at converting SP2 to use with samurai and Koreans, it's a period I have always loved and think that with a bit of work it could be done. I will put my thoughts up on here in a hope that I will get some feed back on what I propose...
I think it's an excellent idea.  :)
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 09 August 2016, 05:27:35 PM
Thanks for the replies, any suggestions and comments welcome,

Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: sepoy1857 on 10 August 2016, 04:13:53 AM
Wasn't there some talk of the Lardies coming out with an actual Samurai system of some kind?
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Severian on 10 August 2016, 10:30:01 AM
There is in fact a Samurai adaptation of Dux Britanniarum (called Seven Spears) in the 2014 Summer Special

http://toofatlardies.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=152

Not SP or SP2, obviously, but perhaps useful. It includes a full campaign system with maps, modifying the Dux campaign system with appropriate local colour.
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 10 August 2016, 11:01:25 AM
I do have the samurai adaption and it is very good, i just feel, and i might be wrong on this but SP2, especially with the command cards and characteristics, can help add more flavour to the period
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 10 August 2016, 11:59:14 AM
quick idea,

For hand weapon troops, change crashing volley to crashing charge, with the same effects of double shock

abit of a change to the ratings

ELITE: Hatimoto
REGULARS: Samurai, Korean elites, Japanese monks
CONSCRIPTS/VOLUNTEERS: Ashigaru, Korean Heavy Infantry, Korean Monks
MILITIA: Korean garrison troops

CLAN, TRIBE for Korean guerrillas
WALLAHS: peasants

the ratings, e.g elite, regulars are just to show where they are in comparisson to each other, i will change the names at a later date
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Yuber Okami on 12 August 2016, 07:12:11 PM
There is in fact a Samurai adaptation of Dux Britanniarum (called Seven Spears) in the 2014 Summer Special

http://toofatlardies.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=152

Not SP or SP2, obviously, but perhaps useful. It includes a full campaign system with maps, modifying the Dux campaign system with appropriate local colour.

If it could be adaptes to the Boshin war, I would buy it straight away
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Severian on 13 August 2016, 12:02:35 AM
If it could be adaptes to the Boshin war, I would buy it straight away


There are Boshin war lists for SP2 at http://toofatlardies.co.uk/blog/?p=5955

They do have some detail for samurai and other traditional troops but at a rather lower level of granularity than I think is envisaged here.

I would certainly agree that the various possibilities for command cards & characteristics could make for a very interesting adaptation, but I don't know anything near enough about the period to suggest anything sensible.

I do have some Perry samurai, though, both painted and unpainted. Not sure I have space for another project right now, but then again when did that ever stop anyone...
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: Yuber Okami on 21 August 2016, 03:36:07 PM
I was talking about Dux Britanniorum
Title: Re: Sharp Practice 2 -Samurai???
Post by: olyreed on 31 August 2016, 07:47:21 PM
Received my first batch of steel fist minis today, although I own some already, the sculpts still amaze me, now I haven't forgotten this idea, just waiting to get Newbury out of the way and then I can concentrate more on this and buying terrain and minis for it