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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: roadskare63 on August 11, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
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Hi all...Well it's been a long time in the making, but here are a few teaser pics of my fortified manor house/church.
As usual materials are foam core cardboard and craft sticks.
These shots are just of the outside...but yes, there is an interior as well...I will post those shots as soon as i am finished detailing it.
(http://i.imgur.com/IZuFOn5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kaP48vy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AHi6cAs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KLNbgWY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kTYKx1g.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rBjlYr5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1n85lJs.jpg)
The portcullis is moveable and the hatch on the roof of the tower will be hinged as well.
Let me know what y'all think...ANY criticism is welcome.
Cheers,
Carl
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Very nice. Only C&C would be the flat aspect of the printed roof sections. Small quibble though :D
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Hey thanks Dozing Dragon...these pics don't show it very well...but the roof is actually layered cardboard..I'll post closer shots soon.
I still have the interior to paint so I will show closer pics then......Maybe I'll have to try and bring it out with a little paint detail.
Cheers
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Great stuff :)
I agree about the colour though :)
cheers
James
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Hey!!!!!!
Thanx guys...I may airbrush a hint of brown over everything (maybe the easiest way for me atm)....maybe...lol this project has taken it's till on me tho and am almost done with the interior....I know the color is a bit dreary....but after stopping mid project to replace/rebuild the tall tower section...I'm just ready for it to be done....
This is the largest project to date...and I made soooo many mistakes and learned sooooo much about myself to boot lol...
I really appreciate your comments...and bow to the superior intellect I find so invigorating on THIS site!!
You all really do the rest of our modeling world a great service.
Humakt...yes, I did scribe all the stonework into the foam...was a bit daunting, but with the right background music...i just went like the energizer bunny!!
Thank yuo again!!
Cheers,
Carl
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You could try pastels first before committing to the airbrush. Various shades of brown and tan should do for starters :)
cheers
James
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That's a dandy idea James...I do have a hand full of tertiary pastels that have been sitting in a drawer for years...
Cheers,
Carl
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Looking good - I particularly like the lead lined roof sections.
Tony
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why? There are stone buildings that colour all around here. Why chance wrecking all your hard work.
So that it looks better?
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All the medieval period buildings that I have seen are not 'that' kind of grey, but have many other shades, mostly browns, in their make up.
By stone buildings 'around here', I take it you mean in Australia?
They are not really going to be representative of anything that is proposing to 'look' medieval (albeit fantasy in a lot of cases) but would have been built in a much more modern age.
The flat grey scheme, that seems fairly common as it is easy to do, is fine if that is what you are aiming for and it suits your needs, but if you want something to look 'real' then that is not really the correct approach.
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The modeller is more than capable and I reckon it will serve him well and do the model justice to re-think the colour.
Seconded!
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That may well have been the case, but I hardly think that they used stones that were taken from actual medieval-era European buildings as ballast in ships several hundred years later.....
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Calm it down chaps.
Roadskare63 asked for constructive criticism and received it. If you want to argue about stone colours for fantasy buildings then take it to pm please.
cheers
James
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Nice building there roadskare63!
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Nice building there roadskare63!
Indeed it is.
Great use of materials in almost a 'Hirst Arts' style.
8)
I like it a lot.
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WOW!!
Hey all, I GREATLY appreciate all of your thoughts, criticisms, and compliments!!!
I think I may add a little more color to it just to break it up a little from being too monochrome...make it a little more interesting to the eye.
No fighting please...lol we are ALL here to enjoy this neat hobby we have, and I'd hate to be rootedly responsible for starting a quarrel between any of you all.
I will be posting more pics...and hopefully better quality pics as well after I finish the Interior in another few days.
Again, I TRULY appreciate you all and this site.
Cheers,
Carl
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The evidence is that many, possibly most large stone medieval buildings, castles, churches etc, which we see today as stone coloured structures or ruins were rendered and painted. Harlech Castle for instance was rendered and painted white, so it would have appeared a brilliant and shock and awe inspiring statement of power and prestige, high on its sea cliff - something like Minas Tirith in the movies...
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I think I may add a little more color to it just to break it up a little from being too monochrome...make it a little more interesting to the eye.
Carl, it really is a cracking build and I love the shape of it.
I do think it would be taken to the next level by adding a little variation in colour.
'Flat' grey does not do it justice.
If you look at the picture that Scurv so thoughtfully provided you can see the point I am trying to get at perfectly.
(http://thumb101.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/3595088/366512507/stock-photo-close-up-of-old-stone-castle-wall-366512507.jpg)
Stone is not USUALLY one tone but several.
A few diluted brown ink washes would really help achieve the effect in the above picture and, in my opinion, improve the effect of the paintjob.
Slightly differing tones, easiest to achieve by watering down the washes as you go, on a few of the individual blocks would do the job nicely without having to repaint the whole thing.
;)
I look forward to more pictures.
:)
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OK!!!!...As promised...MORE pictures...BEHOLD!!!... ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/yhoCQTk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VYz2fb4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DVNrGAs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Bd2zMiz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mgHVluQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/f9moFAo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4jCoefj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/b7sYTGJ.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/aE1xH45.jpg)
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Giving it those extra colours really does lift it 8)
I like what you've done for the interior as well :)
cheers
James
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(http://i.imgur.com/cdVbbu5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/12PsIiR.jpg)
There are numerous floors for action play...the walls of the "church" section are removable if it is desired as simply a Great hall...and there are living and eating quarters in the tower section...the lord's room is at the top floor...the soldier's bunk room is second floor...either a library, or servant's quarters third floor of couse the ground floor is the meet and greet and would have tables for dining and the fireplace would be the kitchen...i have a trap door into the sublevels that would be used for storage and livestock/horses in times of siege.
I did brownwash/weather some to the extent I was happy with to break up the "battleship grey".
I think it turned out pretty well and I may lay in some minor details later, but at this point al the major construction and paint work is complete.
If you look inside the :church" section you will find that the walls are removable as desired ...this could be a fortified manor house OR a fortified church depending on the game.
Anyway, let me know what you think...ALL criticism is welcomed.
Thank you ALL again for helping to inspire me to move forward with my craft!!
Cheers,
Carl
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That has come out really well.
The brown washes really help add some nice variation to the initial flat grey colour and add some depth to the walls.
8) 8)
The interior is excellent and should provide plenty of options for gaming taking it to another level.
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Well done, sir, for producing a great build with loads of gaming potential.
:)
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I like it very nice indeed :-*
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Lovely model. ;D
Adding the extra colour really breaks up the dull one colour effect and brings it to life. It looks much more realistic, I bet you are pleased with the results of your labours. :)
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Superb model , I can only marvel at the artistry displayed on this forum. The work involved from initial concept to completion is obvious to the viewer . Sit back and pour yourself a beer / coffee and give yourself a pat on the back, thanks for posting .
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Hey, I must thank each and every one of you for stating your opinions!!...It drives me to keep doing what I love to do and keep growing!!
Personally, I love BOTH versions...the plainer "battleship grey" and the later weathered and stained version as well...i will continue to complete both versions as I see fit...or depending on how LAZY I may be at the time lol
Anyway...again I bow to you on this site as y'all really DO have a part in what and how I build.
Cheers to ya all!!...
Carl
P.S....this one was a suggestion from the wife...I went a lil overboard, but I am proud of what I made.
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you can be very proud indeed
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Can I make a suggestion on the interior walls?
We're used to seeing castles in films and to wth bare stone or plastered walls. Main rooms and even corridors were panelled or covered in tapestry. Where they were left bare they were often detailed with paintings or mouldings.
If you have a Google at Stirling Castle, where a lot of work has been done on restoring the interior to its former medieval and Renaissance splendour, you'll see what I mean.
Great work though!
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I think a little more colour. Hear me out. At a distance it looks good closer up it looks almost like rust. I personally would have left well alone because the first version looked great to me. But it is your toy so you do what ever you like.
The other thing is I thought with a castle wall they would have used the one type of stone for the bricks forming the outer wall. The hardest stone they could cut nearby would be the logical choice. Hence would it not all be a 'uniform' sort of colour. The interior stone might be a mix as it was more a filler product and getting as much as possible from close as possible as easily as possible would make sense regardless of the type of stone it was. I can see that being sourced from multiple locations but not the outer bricks of the walls.
A little more colour would make it look like it was quarried from somewhere where all the stone was brownish grey.
But stone is a natural material, and can vary quite a bit. Take a look at a cliff or a quarry wall and you will often see stripes of different colour, or just subtle changes of shade. Also, some walls attract moss etc which is another natural material that comes in varying colours and doesn't grow uniformly.
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If you need to see good stone colours for a period house this is the one that i have been using as a ref, when planning to build my own Fortified Manor.
It's Provanhall House in Glasgow.
(http://clickonglasgow.net/wp-content/gallery/provanhall-house/gbpt-31-07-04-provanhall-house-124.jpg)
(http://clickonglasgow.net/wp-content/gallery/provanhall-house/gbpt-31-07-04-provanhall-house-100.jpg)
(http://gbpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Current-Projects-Provan-Hall-Credit-Alan-Crumlish.jpg)
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Wonderfull!!
I love those reference shots flags_of_war!!...
Scurv, I will keep ALL of this in mind for next build!!
Cheers,
Carl
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Loved it! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I used to live in a place like this! ;)
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Great looking piece of terrain. That will look good on any tabletop.
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pic links fixed