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Title: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: julesav on 04 September 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Hi folks

Just wondering about doing some Napoleonic skirmishing in 28mm. I had my hopes pinned firmly on Sharp Practice 2 but sadly that requires a rather higher model count than I want to do. I'm sort of thinking that a force would be a pack of command and a pack of troopers from Perry for instance?

Your thoughts much appreciated.

Cheers

Julesav
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: fastolfrus on 04 September 2016, 12:23:03 PM
You could try Flintloque - a fantasy set but if you just substitute "British" for Orc and "French" for the elves you should be ok.
From memory Russians are undead, Portuguese are goblins, Prussians are dwarves, Austrians are dogs? There may have been others, but it's a few years since I played.
The original starter sets had roughly that number of figures, we used to play using historical figures because we didn't have many "official" figures.

There were a few Flintloque threads on the forum in the past, you might find them with a search (which may get you to someone who has played more recently).

Also, Alternative Armies have a free PDF of "Flintloque Light" so you could try it for free.

p.s. where are you based?
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: robh on 04 September 2016, 12:32:09 PM
"Smooth & Rifled" from the guys behind Impetus.

Single based figures and designed to scale from 9 or 10 models per side up to 40 or 50.

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/137231/SmoothRifled?manufacturers_id=6467 (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/137231/SmoothRifled?manufacturers_id=6467)

Rulebook has basic stats/organisations for the period but there are free expansions with more specific detail for Peninsular War, ACW, French Indian Wars, Darkest Africa, Boshin War and many others.
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: matakishi on 04 September 2016, 12:32:18 PM
Over the Hills and Far Away. Best rules ever  8)
http://www.matakishi.com/apps/webstore/products/show/6954206

(http://www.matakishi.com/webstore/OTHAFA%20cover%20600.jpg)
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Aerendar Valandil on 04 September 2016, 02:20:01 PM
I like Song of Drums and Shako's. Can as easily be played with a few models to a dozen or more. 
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: julesav on 05 September 2016, 01:38:48 PM
Fastolfrus: Flintloque is the sort of thing I was after but I find it a bit 'clunky' compared to 'modern' rules. It certainly has the sort of detail I was after though! I'm located in deepest, darkest, Wettest (Wild) West Wales!

robh: I will look for AARs and the like to get the feel of S&R.

Matakishi/Paul: Aaaargh! Still recovering from the lovely stuff on your website! You, Sir, are an inspiration. And your rules are at a very attractive price position!

Aerendar: I wasn't blown away by the look of S&D&H forces with 2 line troopers a Guard Grenadier and a Cuirassier so I sort of forgot about it completely. I will look for AARs and reviews to get more information.
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 05 September 2016, 01:46:29 PM
Over the Hills and Far Away. Best rules ever  8)
http://www.matakishi.com/apps/webstore/products/show/6954206

(http://www.matakishi.com/webstore/OTHAFA%20cover%20600.jpg)

Not be confused with a recently published, similarly named set from Partizan Press, whose authors, I assume, also deem it to be at or close to the pinnacle of rules design...
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: julesav on 05 September 2016, 02:09:57 PM
I suspect that Paul's pricing point will beat Partizan's by a long mile!
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 05 September 2016, 02:26:17 PM
I would second Songs of Drums and Shakos. I have used it and it is perfect for what you want. I stated with SoDS but over that last year or two have added so many new figures I have enough for SP2. SoDS is a great place to start playing Nap Skirmish.
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on 05 September 2016, 04:05:29 PM
I suspect that Paul's pricing point will beat Partizan's by a long mile!

Indeed. It's also far and away more suitable for skirmishes, albeit not for big battalions.
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Hitman on 06 September 2016, 03:00:04 AM
Check out my website and Rule system...

http://www.battlefieldgamedesigns.com/

Thank you for previewing Green Jackets and Voltigeurs.
Regards,
Hitman
 8)
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: julesav on 06 September 2016, 12:32:06 PM
Thanks for that Hitman, but $65 is more than my budget for the whole project not just the rules!
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: DonVoss on 06 September 2016, 01:43:27 PM
I second "Songs of Drums and Shakos".
If you don't like the circus aproach: one Cuirassier, one Old Guard, one Voltigeur...then pick your models with some historical sense.

Here are my brits for example.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/brits1_zpspqm2nz5d.jpg) (http://'http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/brits1_zpspqm2nz5d.jpg.html')



(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/DonVoss_photos/brits2_zpsqvckqneg.jpg) (http://'http://s928.photobucket.com/user/DonVoss_photos/media/brits2_zpsqvckqneg.jpg.html')


Later I added one light dragoon for a little bit variety, but I had some fun games with these...;)

Cheers,
Don

Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: seldon on 06 September 2016, 04:46:41 PM
I really like Brink of Battle. It is an awesome skirmish game..

with it I play :

Dark Ages, Fantasy, Japanese sengoku or fantasy ( legend of the five rings )

napoleonics, french and indian war

steam punk

world war II, falklands..

Each period is very well characterized and feels very different. You have to do your own stats for the figures you have so it is up to you on that..

I love the rules, they are solid, and thorough, they include campaign advancement and always results in fun games of 8-20 figures per side..

Here some pics from a napoleonic game I did recently

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11703070_10206087025231293_6193556251719814801_n.jpg?oh=64a3a5ea024709a0106fb029238d6d67&oe=5842076F)

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10422176_10206087025111290_2713458627181091159_n.jpg?oh=aaf43a6ec1da2bc441f875cb5e06136d&oe=5844F8D0)

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10418895_10206087025431298_5118741596912975817_n.jpg?oh=6db719b9332a51002e0a871b20fe4720&oe=5884304F)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/276411602433983/permalink/871899956218475/

In that game both forces were investigating three possible objectives and once the correct one was found they had to exit with it...

Rules:  http://www.brinkofbattle.com/

That being said, I had not heard of the earlier "Over the Hills..." and being a sucker for napoleonic rules I will try to get a copy soon :) ... Most of the time I default back to Brink of Battle for the skirmish games but there is always valuable material that can be extrapolated in dedicated rules... so thanks for posting that reference Matakishi

cheers
Francisco



Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: Flashman14 on 06 September 2016, 05:04:41 PM
Then Osprey's Chosen Men comes out in December: https://www.amazon.com/Chosen-Men-Military-Skirmish-Napoleonic/dp/1472810805 (https://www.amazon.com/Chosen-Men-Military-Skirmish-Napoleonic/dp/1472810805)

Looks very promising and the author is the one who did the Warhammer Historical: Legends of the Old West. Our group modified that series into a large scale Indian Mutiny skirmish game. It'll be nice to not have to monk with it too much.
Title: Re: Napoleonic skirmish rules for about 12 figures per side?
Post by: levied troop on 06 September 2016, 05:41:41 PM
2 HourWargames rules system is interesting, thoroughly enjoyed their 20thC set and there is a Nappy version:

http://www.twohourwargames.com/95th.html

If budget is an issue, there's a free version of their 20th C set on the site, so you can check out the rules mechanisms for free before committing.