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Title: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 13 September 2016, 08:07:16 PM
Hi Guys,

I have a couple of questions that have probably been asked before (1 has because I asked it...) so sorry to be a newbie but...

Will the Warhammer Great War book ever be reprinted? Ebay does turn up the odd copy but at eye watering prices. I suspect it will never be re released so is there anything similar? I do like Contemptible Little Armies (or anything else Chris Peers writes) but I do wonder what is popular at the moment?

Lastly has any manufacturer shown an interesting in producing WW1 figures in plastic? One needs more infantry than a WW2 game and every period other than this seems to be getting the plastic treatment!

Lastly Renegade figures have blown me away-who is compatible with these large fellows?

Thanks in advance.

Your thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: fastolfrus on 13 September 2016, 09:03:00 PM
Not sure about anyone else, but Plastic Soldier Company did a range of plastic infantry, artillery and tanks in 15mm for the "Commands and Colours" board game "The Great War". They sell the figures separately too.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 13 September 2016, 09:24:26 PM
Thanks Fast, I have never seen the 15mm stuff but I was looking for 28mm due to old age eyesight!
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Sir_Theo on 13 September 2016, 09:56:41 PM
I doubt we'll ever see Great War again.  Through the Mud and Blood by the Lardies is good.  As a simple soul if I was to venture into WW1 gaming I'd be tempted to go with one of the Bolt Action mods doing the rounds as I already know that game. 

My favourite minis are Great War Miniatures.  Beautiful sculpts.  Muttonchop (I think)  recently did some fantastic looking BEF. 

I just sold a copy of The Great War on eBay.  Unfortunately you missed out by mere weeks :(
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: armchairgeneral on 13 September 2016, 10:47:20 PM
As Sir Theo said I would go with Bolt Action. It doesn't need amending that much. I like 1:1 LW period though where platoons were self contained with mutually supporting sections i.e. rifles, close assault bombers, rifle grenades (artillery) and LMGs. Makes for a great games tactically which works well with BA.

If you want something a bit larger in scale and you like Rapid Fire then you could try Crush the Kaiser?
 
Rob Broom of Scarab Miniatures who co wrote The Great War rules is bringing out his own set "Zero Hour" imminently I understand.

There is a Gaming Day on 16th October near Bristol where these new rules will be used for a Somme game in which participates are welcome.

http://scarabminiatures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2214
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on 14 September 2016, 01:56:47 AM
Victrix had planned on WW1 minis but never went further than the CGI sketches.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/28mm-WWI.jpg)
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: grant on 14 September 2016, 06:36:22 AM
Victrix had planned on WW1 minis but never went further than the CGI sketches.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/28mm-WWI.jpg)

Those look very odd. Victrix does some stellar work, that's not their best.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 14 September 2016, 07:23:27 AM
Thanks for the replies, I have Bolt Action so will look for the WW1 mods. The Victrix renders look really interesting, I do wish someone would cover the period.

I will look up Mutton Chop miniatures, I have not heard of these before.

Again thanks for the info....this all started because of a picture of a model of the Marconi 1500 wireless truck.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Steve F on 14 September 2016, 07:51:41 AM
I will look up Mutton Chop miniatures, I have not heard of these before.

Available from Empress:
http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart76.htm (http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart76.htm)
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: aircav on 16 September 2016, 02:53:48 PM
Great War miniatures fit in well with renegade miniatures. I haven't seen mutton chop in the flesh, he did the musketeer range & they were smaller than renegade, so I assume that they would be the same
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: James Morris on 16 September 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Scarab Miniatures are also an excellent fit with the large Renegade models.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: aircav on 17 September 2016, 07:11:07 PM
Scarab Miniatures are also an excellent fit with the large Renegade models.

Oh yes James is right, I forgot about Scarab (Rob won't be happy  :D)
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 18 September 2016, 09:33:10 PM
Despite looking everywhere (it seems) I cannot find a quick reference sheet for the Warhammer ruleset....I was rather hoping to piece the book together. I play solo so no one will be complaining!
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on 19 September 2016, 09:51:39 AM
I have a copy of Great War. I picked it up fairly cheaply.

I was especially interested in the 1914 part of the war and have had a few good games with it. I've also played with a set of Bolt Action Mods. The latter was a good game but some how lacked a little "flavour". It was a challenge for those used to lots of auto attic weapons and the MG really dominated the table.

Drop me a pm and let me know what you want to know about WHGW I might be able to help.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 20 September 2016, 10:35:17 AM
Could I ask just generally does the Warhammer set use the ballistic skill chart to determine hits? If so what is the average skill of a Tommy/German or Frenchmen please?
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Phil Robinson on 20 September 2016, 11:07:15 AM
1914 - 3+, 4+, 4+

1918 - 4+, 4+, 4+
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 20 September 2016, 12:54:53 PM
Thanks for this Phil, this is good to know. Also thank you to the Emir for the help, this forum is full of very decent men indeed.
Thank you
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Von Stroheim on 20 September 2016, 06:19:43 PM
Tsuba Miniatures did have some German WWI in development but no recent news.

http://tsuba-miniatures.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2014-11-23T07:38:00-08:00&max-results=7&start=7&by-date=false
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 20 September 2016, 09:25:03 PM
You'd be spoilt for choice if you went for 1/72 plastics.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 20 September 2016, 10:12:05 PM
I have tried 1/72 and I love the scale...Elhiem are amazing....but my eyesight is just not up to the fine detail. It is a pity because I really like the HAT figures and all that artillery!

So....just need to find a copy of Warhammer Great War that will not cost me a kidney and maybe the winter project can start being prepared.

I have not committed myself fully to the Great War but I bought some paint today Vallejo 880 ....
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: twrchtrwyth on 20 September 2016, 10:19:22 PM
Get yourself a table magnifier and light.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 21 September 2016, 09:33:35 AM
Yes I have both but after all that work I don't notice it on the table.....having said that I am now looking at some HAT German heavy weapons teams already on bases...
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Johnp4000 on 07 October 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Those Scarab rules have been ready for production since 2009, so I wouldn't hold my breath! I would suggest you look at : Crush the Kaiser or Contemptible Little Wars by Chris Peers, both decent fast play sets.I would keep looking on Ebay, I have seen the Great War going for £30, the second book, 'over the top' always goes for crazy prices.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Phil Robinson on 07 October 2016, 01:21:33 PM
The Great War rules are a bit vanilla without the Over The Top supplement, they are OK for 1914.

Just my humble opinion after having played a few games.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: MartinR on 09 October 2016, 07:40:32 AM
If 1/72nd is too small for you,  there are very decent ranges of 54mm plastics for Ww1.  Embarrassing does most of their smaller stuff in 54mm too,  and Armies in Plastic do excellent  (and very cheap)  infantry and cavalry figures.

We tend to paint the larger scale figures in a toy soldier style,  which looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: CarlLeyland on 10 October 2016, 09:56:22 PM
I have never thought of 54mm for wargaming Martin but I am now gfoing to take a look. Very effective for skirmish games I imagine?
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: DS615 on 16 October 2016, 04:52:02 PM
We do significant amounts of gaming in 54mm.
Yes, skirmishes are ideal, but there's nothing to stop larger games except space.  Westerns work great since the numbers involved are normally few.
We paint them just like 28s, no blocky "toy solder" paint jobs for us.

I have a few pictures of a 54mm game here.
http://fandangoalphaone.blogspot.com/2008/07/first-test-of-3-players.html (http://fandangoalphaone.blogspot.com/2008/07/first-test-of-3-players.html)


We also occasionally game in 1/18 scale (action figure size).  21st Century did some really nice WWII guys a few years back.  That calls for more in depth rules for us, making each figure far more important.  Also because they are action figures, you can represent standing/crouching/prone easily with the same figure.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: tim in saskatoon on 24 October 2016, 02:35:06 AM
Could I ask just generally does the Warhammer set use the ballistic skill chart to determine hits? If so what is the average skill of a Tommy/German or Frenchmen please?


I seem to recall there is a BS and WS stat, but instead of rolling and checking a table it was simply defining what you needed to roll to hit - regardless of the skill of your opponents. It is written WS 4+, BS 4+ (which are what the average troops were) slightly better troops have 3+, poor troops have 5+.
Title: Re: Warhammer Gret War and where are the plastic figures?
Post by: Romark on 24 October 2016, 09:04:45 AM
Hi CarlLeyland,just to let you know that there's a copy of WHH Great War up for sale in the Bazaar right now,offered by Jimbibbly,at a very good price,if you are still interested  :)