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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Gracchus Armisurplus on 28 September 2016, 04:58:03 AM
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I'm going to be making some mounted warriors for my Welsh warband, and all I really need are the ponies. I'd prefer plastics, so does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes horses/ponies in 28mm scale? They really need to be a bit smaller than the Conquest plastic horses.
Thanks in advance!
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Or does anyone know how the horses from theWargames Factory, Perry and Warlord Games plastic ranges scale against the Conquest games horses? The LOTR ones from GW are almost exactly the same size as the Conquest ones.
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The Conquest are slightly bigger overall but noticeably bigger (more barrel-like) at the girth.
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Here's an old post of mine in which I compare a Conquest plastic Norman horse to a Perry metal WotR horse. You can see the difference in the girth. The WotR metal horses are usually the same proportions as their plastic.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35381.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35381.0)
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Thanks, that's a good start. It always frustrates me that there's not more comparison shots of different manufacturers around, so it's nice to find when someone has taken the time and effort to compare them for us!
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I have the Wargames Factory Germanic mounts which really look like ponies (a good thing):
http://mitchwargaming.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/wargames-factory-ancient-german-cavalry.html
Comparison (for similar reasons as you plan on):
http://www.sagatapestry.com/2013/04/comparing-cavalry-models-normans-v.html
No idea who makes them now.
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Cheers, a shame WGF isn't making models any more! How do the WGF ponies match the GB ones for size, out of curiosity? Great blog by the way, heaps of cool stuff :) Were you at Ragnarok the other weekend?
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None of the blogs, etc are mine.
Wargames Factory states that Warlord distributes now, but I can't remember what the exact deal was.
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Oh, fair enough. Yeah, I think there was going to be a deal between Warlord and whatever Chinese company bought out WGF, but I think the deal has subsequently been abandoned. Warlord is apparently selling single sprues of the Anglo Saxon Fyrd, but none of the other WGF offerings.
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Fireforge also sell their un-barded medieval horses (http://www.fireforge-games.com/webstore/figure-accessories/medieval-unbarded-horses-details) by the sprue. For ponies I think these would be the mounts (http://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/ancient-numidians/products/numidian-cavalry?variant=22008249473) to get but you would have to file the rope off the neck and sculpt tack.
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Those Victrix Numidians would be perfect if they had the right tack, but alas, sculpting bridles is probably more work than I'm interested in.
Any idea how those Fireforge horses scale?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/28mm-Celt-Cavalry-Wargames-Factory-Plastic-Miniatures-/222243268275?hash=item33bebb26b3:g:lWIAAOSwepJXWP4G
Here's the WGF Celts in Aus. Ignore if you're not from Aus lol
Fireforge horses are as big as Conquest.
Pete
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Thanks :)
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Victrix Iberian Cavalry (http://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/ancient-iberians/products/ancient-iberian-cavalry?variant=25353178177) have tack but also inappropriate frilly bits that would have to be removed.
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wargames factory horses are smaller than all the other plastic horses out there, similar to gripping beast metal ponies for the irish and huns. I have a scale comparison I did several years ago here:
http://rogvaldmwb.blogspot.com/2013/06/28mm-dark-agemedieval-scale-comparisons.html (http://rogvaldmwb.blogspot.com/2013/06/28mm-dark-agemedieval-scale-comparisons.html)
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Cheers for the comparison shot, I think the WGF plastics will be the best bet for some little Welsh ponies :) Shame about the Victrix ones being so culturally unique, they would be good too, and still in production so that's a bonus!
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Unless you need hundreds of them I'd buy metal ponies and avoid the inevitable disappointment that is WFactory's horse sculpt. The Gripping Beast model looks spot on.
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Haha, I just got the WGF celtic cavalry in the box. I've got copies of both their saxon fyrd and viking hirdmen boxes, so I sort of know what I'm looking at when I get some WGF plastics, but I was still disappointed.
But it's strange, on the one hand I hate these ponies because they're stupid, fat little bastards. But on the other hand I love them, because they're stupid, fat little ponies. Not sure yet if I'll use them or buy some metals, it will depend on how much work it takes to greenstuff their heads on.
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Sorry to hear your disappointment, but yes - I warned that they're stupid, fat little bastards. And yes, they're average WGF sculpts but their stumpy charm trumps that.
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Within the WF range there are varying levels of quality. The celts, Germans and Romans are their earliest work, and it shows when comparing the crispness of detail against their later dark ages offerings. Still size-wise their ancient ponies are your closest plastic match to later highland ponies, and they do still have a certain charm. I have a bunch of their ancient celt cavalry sat awaiting my attention :)
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Within the WF range there are varying levels of quality. The celts, Germans and Romans are their earliest work, and it shows when comparing the crispness of detail against their later dark ages offerings. Still size-wise their ancient ponies are your closest plastic match to later highland ponies, and they do still have a certain charm. I have a bunch of their ancient celt cavalry sat awaiting my attention :)
Agreed, I actually quite like the sculpts, I just don't like the execution.
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So what be ideal or near ideal 28mm ponies, in metal or plastic, for someone who needs around 40, for use as one of those Scandinavian breeds used by Norsemen?
I avoided WGF for the aforementioned problems, along with my own disappointment, though never disappointed with equipment, like swords and bow cases - AFAIK they're the only source for 28mm gladii and gladdi in scabbards.
Anyone have the Assault Group Cossack/Tartar ponies? Any comparison pics with Perry plastic horses?
http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/index.php?prod=858
http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/index.php?prod=859
http://www.theassaultgroup-shop.co.uk/index.php?prod=860
I would have to file off the saddle, since the sculpts have molded on ones and maybe the blanket too.