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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: TheCaptain on 23 October 2016, 06:59:32 PM

Title: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: TheCaptain on 23 October 2016, 06:59:32 PM
Hello. So I picked up the starter for DFC. The rules sounded really fun and different from what I usually play, and the models looked awesome. I've started painting up the Scourge side first, and I've previously found that posting my progress here helps keep me at it so to speak. So without further ado... my first ship and scheme test, a Harpy

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/CrownbladeNo1/002_zpsmolsshvy.jpg)
(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/CrownbladeNo1/003_zpsetrmpvzc.jpg)
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: Hobby Services on 23 October 2016, 07:55:25 PM
Lovely.  The sculpts for that game are amazingly detailed, and you've done a nice job bringing it out.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: The Voivod on 23 October 2016, 08:43:12 PM
Great colours.
One of those games I knew I'd get into as soon as I heard about it.

Looking forward to see more
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: Elbows on 23 October 2016, 09:07:25 PM
Nice job, and I really dislike the Scourge (so much so that it kept me from buying the main boxed game). 
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: Agis on 24 October 2016, 08:17:52 AM
Great paintjob!
... and I really dislike the Scourge (so much so that it kept me from buying the main boxed game). 
LOL, same for me, but it did not kept me from pledging... still waiting for me reward however.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: manic _miner on 24 October 2016, 08:43:02 AM
 Very nice painting on this one.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: TheCaptain on 25 October 2016, 07:51:06 PM
Thanks guys. Finished up my first cruiser, an Ifrit.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/CrownbladeNo1/IMG_0033_zps7fvhixdw.jpg)
(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/CrownbladeNo1/IMG_0029_zpskoythg4y.jpg)
(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/CrownbladeNo1/IMG_0034_zpsiysb8xue.jpg)
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: Inso on 25 October 2016, 07:55:57 PM
Lovely paint on a weirdly beautiful miniature.

The scourge ships remind me of those pictures that move when you look at them... but only in your mind :o

I look forward to seeing more :)
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: The Voivod on 25 October 2016, 08:27:17 PM
Yeah, I wasn't  a fan of the dropzone scourge's look (though it's growing on me), but the ships were an instant hit with me.
They're lovely and creepy at the same time.

Beautifully done. Not the colours I would have thought, of but they really work.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: Hobby Services on 27 October 2016, 10:34:18 PM
Yeah, I wasn't  a fan of the dropzone scourge's look (though it's growing on me), but the ships were an instant hit with me.
They're lovely and creepy at the same time.

Agreed,  I think the DzC figs miss for me because they're not quite alien enough, at least the smaller tanks and APCs.  The big stuff and the walkers are better/weirder, although some of the dropship designs are a little too clumsy looking for my tastes.  Then again, most of that clumsiness comes from being designed to carry the AFVs that I don't like much in the first place.

The ships, OTOH, are gorgeous, and that paint job on the Ifrit really looks great.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: YPU on 28 October 2016, 05:18:28 PM
Yep, have to agree with all of the above.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: Hobby Services on 29 October 2016, 02:36:18 PM
Just out of curiosity, how modular/versatile are those plastics?  How many different stock frigate and cruiser classes can be built with them, and is there much potential for putting them together in different non-canonical configurations?  I've looked at the sprues in various unboxing videos but don't have a good feel for how much variation you can achieve.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: TheCaptain on 29 October 2016, 08:57:52 PM
For the Scourge I'd say you can build a single cruiser of everyone of the stock variants and I believe you can build a few non stock ones too, mainly lights. As for the frigates thats harder due to the sculpt, each frigate being three parts (main body and 'wings'). So you would need some more elaborate converting for those.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: Hobby Services on 29 October 2016, 09:19:28 PM
Thanks, helpful.  I'm looking at the figs partly for other games (Full Thrust, Starmada, A Sky Full of Ships) and partly as just modeling projects.

How are the bases?  I've heard grumbles that they're too hard to turn and they certainly look fiddly to twist during play without bumping figs, especially when multiple models have clumped up in a scrum.  The demo game vids I've watched have had some fairly silly spaceship pile-ups, at least one of which ended in a catastrophic ship explosion that cleared the field.  Seems like a questionable design decision, especially given Chambers experience with the void shield tracker bases on the old Epic figs (which were also a royal PITA to turn in play).  If they wanted to have twisty-dial components for tracking various statuses something more like X-Wing's separate dial might have been a better idea.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: The_Beast on 30 October 2016, 12:27:27 PM
Nice job, and I really dislike the Scourge (so much so that it kept me from buying the main boxed game). 

Put me in the 'not my cuppa' line, but do have to admit your PJ's are so nice, that....  ;)

Has anyone done an AAR that actually has game play in it? Don't know much about the rules.

Doug
Title: Re: Dropfleet - my first ship.
Post by: Hobby Services on 30 October 2016, 02:13:01 PM
Has anyone done an AAR that actually has game play in it? Don't know much about the rules.

If you search Youtube for "dropfleet commander" there are quite a few videos, the most informative of which that I've seen are from Beasts of War.  Some stuff from the playtest stage, but others are newer with the finalized rules.  Also a few (rather long multi-part) battle reports in German and English over here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl18ow2t5AACDhdhH9NeQdA

Imagine there'll be more as people start playing, it is still pretty new.  Many game elements remind me strongly of Battlefleet Gothic (big surprise, given Chambers' involvement in both) but it's definitely got a unique-to-space-gaming twist in the way it concentrates on delivering troops to planetside and supporting them once there.  Wrecking the other guy's fleet is nice, but it may not win you the game if he gets enough GROPOS down while you're doing it.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: The_Beast on 30 October 2016, 04:32:20 PM
Thanks! I'll give it a view.

That IS impressive, whatever Cherryh's comments on the worthlessness of fighting for planetary property.  lol

Doug
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: Hobby Services on 30 October 2016, 04:52:00 PM
Thanks! I'll give it a view.

That IS impressive, whatever Cherryh's comments on the worthlessness of fighting for planetary property.  lol

Doug

Not sure planetary real estate was worthless to Cherryh so much as (along with the trade/manufacturing stations that completed the interstellar economic net) being too vulnerable to attack to be defended.  As soon as one side starts shooting worlds, species extinction is practically a given, and even "just" wrecking stations destroys civilization to the point space travel collapses in short order.  Fleets have to be built and even spacer families recognize that the resources to make ships come from big, fat, nearly-defenseless targets that everyone has to tacitly agree to leave intact or there's no point in even fighting in the first place.  The first faction to wise up and start building self-sustaining FTL-capable manufacturing platforms would probably rule the universe, but either it never occurs to anyone to do it or it simply isn't technologically feasible.

Dropfleet's setting is very different (the humans are trying to retake worlds the Scourge already conquered ages ago, and the Scourge want the planets relatively intact for resources, including humans to parasitize - and the Shaltari seem to be playing games or acting as kingmakers for their own amusement) but it does seem that planetary bombardment isn't a good path to victory in most scenarios.  You can do it, but it probably won't help enough to win.
Title: Re: Dropfleet - a Scourge medium cruiser.
Post by: The_Beast on 30 October 2016, 05:15:29 PM
I'll go find the essay she did for a book on writing sci-fi, but worthless seemed to hit the mark. I got the impression of 'anything you can do, I can do better' in space kind of thing.

I started off in a tangent about 'probably not a meaningly useful population in the foreseeable future', and then I asked myself, 'why are you trying to engage a book in a conversation', and got very quiet.

Doug

Edit: By the way, I had an orbital campaign worked out, on a 2d map, of course, that kept plot of where the ships were in relation to planetary surface. The various orbit levels: do they seem to be inside or out of stationary, my nearest orbit.