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Title: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: HvM on 30 October 2016, 04:58:23 PM
A while ago I finally managed to get this amazing oldhammer troll that was released in 1984.
So much character in this one! I really enjoyed painting it and I'm already considering to get a few more great oldhammer minis!

Hope you like this handsome young man!

Cheers,
Daniel

(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161030/s3vd8bzs.jpg)
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: fred on 30 October 2016, 05:00:36 PM
Nice work. Well not sure nice is quite right for a pustulant troll.

The eyes are especially impressive.

This is a great figure, I still have one from back in the day.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: affun on 30 October 2016, 07:01:07 PM
Those eyes are unreal. Really great characterful painting and photography.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: aiteal on 30 October 2016, 07:39:55 PM
That's simply breathtaking, I'm in awe of those eyes. I myself feel i did a good job if my minis don't look like Marty Feldman.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: marrony on 30 October 2016, 07:46:29 PM
Thats brilliant. I love the old citadel trolls. Old skool coolness bang upto date with a top notch paint job :o
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Malebolgia on 30 October 2016, 07:48:58 PM
Wow, that is awesome brushwork and photography. Fantastic work.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Severian on 30 October 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Superb stuff.

Another nod for the fantastic eyes. I also like what you've done with the teeth (what he has of them, that is). Great how understated yet characterful these old sculpts are; you've brought this out very well indeed.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Gabbi on 30 October 2016, 10:22:11 PM
WOW. It looks like it's painted. No, not the miniature, I know the model it is painted ;) I mean, the whole model looks like a painting. Astounding work.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Hobgoblin on 30 October 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Amazing! I don't think GW has ever surpassed that range of trolls. The painting is sublime.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Andrew May on 30 October 2016, 11:12:08 PM
Gorgeous work! How was it to paint? I did a reeeeaaaly old Kev Adams ogre/troll and it was a little of a "turd polishing" exercise, that's a little harsh tbh but the sculpting was very rough indeed. Same deal with the ancient "great goblins/gnolls" that I have. Rough diamonds, incredible character but primitive from a technical standpoint.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Cubs on 30 October 2016, 11:13:00 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again.

Just too good.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Nord on 31 October 2016, 08:13:00 AM
That is beyond good. Truly wonderful. Best paint job I have seen for a while. And great presentation too. Love the face, the skin texture, the veins (freehanded?) and the setting. You raise the bar so high.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Gibby on 31 October 2016, 09:50:06 AM
He's awesome. Amazing painting! :)
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Duncan McDane on 31 October 2016, 11:09:07 AM
This is not a pj, it's a piece of art. Sheer brilliance  :o.
Any chance you could write down a quick tutorial about "how to for dummies"?
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Hobgoblin on 31 October 2016, 01:55:48 PM
I did a reeeeaaaly old Kev Adams ogre/troll and it was a little of a "turd polishing" exercise, that's a little harsh tbh but the sculpting was very rough indeed. Same deal with the ancient "great goblins/gnolls" that I have. Rough diamonds, incredible character but primitive from a technical standpoint.

I think there's a point with the Perrys (1984) where you see a sudden acceleration in the quality of their sculpts. No idea what caused it, but it may have been contact with Tom Meier or just a honing of their craft. The great goblins/gnolls illustrate this really well. If you look at the ones released in 1984, they're streets ahead of the earlier ones. One or two are still quite rough and based on the earlier versions, but (e.g.) the shaman, the long-eared one bottom right, the one with the mace and shield and the top-left one with the spear are so much better; I don't think there's been a better GW goblin shaman since.

(http://www.solegends.com/citc/c012goblins1/c2c12greatgoblinsx-01.jpg)

The C20 trolls are from 1984, so they're in the sweet spot. The Aly Morrison trolls that followed them are nice, but I don't think Hobol and his kin have been bettered. Oddly enough, I often find Kev Adams' miniatures much harder to paint than their Perry predecessors. I think there's more finicky detail (wrinkles and the like) that can play havoc with highlighting.

I'd echo Duncan's call for some insight into the painting of this tremendous troll! There are so many tremendous and imaginative touches - from the veins to the eyes to the moss on the hammer. Astonishing!
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Steam Flunky on 31 October 2016, 02:01:09 PM
  :-* Great painting but wow...... :o...that photo is fantastic!!!!
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: HvM on 02 November 2016, 07:32:44 PM
Many thanks for all the kind words!

That is beyond good. Truly wonderful. Best paint job I have seen for a while. And great presentation too. Love the face, the skin texture, the veins (freehanded?) and the setting. You raise the bar so high.
Thank you! Yes the veins are freehanded painted.

Gorgeous work! How was it to paint? I did a reeeeaaaly old Kev Adams ogre/troll and it was a little of a "turd polishing" exercise, that's a little harsh tbh but the sculpting was very rough indeed. Same deal with the ancient "great goblins/gnolls" that I have. Rough diamonds, incredible character but primitive from a technical standpoint.
This troll was incredibly easy to paint. After I stripped down the paintjob of the previous owner all the details came out.

Cheers,
Daniel
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Globlin on 02 November 2016, 09:41:39 PM
Lovely painting, you've really brought out the character of the mini. I love his expression.

"Hey Hobol why the long face?"

"Because I'm a troll Globlin, because I'm a troll..."
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: **GS** on 04 November 2016, 08:55:20 AM
just seen him. Hobol "the face".

I love that face. Simply world class face...

Cheers + Tschüß
GS
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: tancrede on 04 November 2016, 09:32:34 AM
Those old minis were really excellent, with a lot of personnality, and your painting really bring it to life ! :-*
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Pangolino on 05 November 2016, 03:40:34 PM
I've often thought about the older Citadel figures that they seem to indicate a wider life than just spent fighting*, and your painting has brought so much of this out - I'll second the appreciation of the moss on his hammer, the fact that his eyes look tired and bloodshot, and that when I look at the piercings in his arms, I wince a little inside. It's really stunning work. Thanks!


*or, more accurately, spent at the gym, the tailor and the stylist and in front of the mirror, posing about how bad-ass they are. Maybe the old Citadel figures indicate more accurately what must be the strain of a life spent fighting.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: kaiser on 05 November 2016, 04:03:13 PM
This is beautiful. I can't stop staring at it. I mean, the eyes, the vanes on his arms. Fantastic work.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Cubs on 05 November 2016, 04:31:25 PM
I've often thought about the older Citadel figures that they seem to indicate a wider life than just spent fighting*,

They have life and character and, for my money, show much more artistry in the sculpts. They lack the crisp definition, quality casting and technical advancements of modern miniatures, but frankly that's a price I'm willing to pay most of the time. A well-pushed brush like HvM's is all they need to shine.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: majorsmith on 05 November 2016, 09:34:35 PM
That's an amazing paint job, those eyes!!! Been looking for this figure for a while hard to find at a decent price
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: gbulens on 06 November 2016, 10:37:43 PM
Omg! I have seldom seen anybody give so much honor and beauty to such an old figure!
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: Rob_bresnen on 07 November 2016, 12:02:04 AM
Awesome...I know this mini very well as it was one of the fist I bought (back in the day when it was fist released). it was no painted as well as yours...

the completion and the eyes are truly staggering- a thing of beauty, despite his ugliness. and the quality of you photo is breathtaking too.
Title: Re: Hobol Firebreath - The Forest Troll
Post by: DeafNala on 07 November 2016, 01:32:01 PM
The Troll painted up FANTASTICALLY...WONDERFUL brushwork & color choices. He looks like he enjoys his drink...possibly to excess. VERY WELL DONE!