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Title: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Argonor on 21 November 2016, 11:05:02 PM
What is the correct way of painting the M-H rifle, please?

I remember somebody writing about some sort of British rifle, that it had wood casing on top of/all around the barrel, only showing the metal near the muzzle, but I don't remember if it was the Martini-Henry or some later (WWI/Interwar?) design.

The images that I have found on the web shows both the wood and the metal as very dark, so it is difficult to tell the difference...

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but I have next to no knowledge of firearms (hereabouts one needs to have a hunter's license to buy a real gun, and I have never had any interest in spending leisure time that could be used at the pain(t) station or the gaming table on killing animals).
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Lowtardog on 21 November 2016, 11:18:00 PM
I think you mean the Lee Enfield 303
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Dags on 21 November 2016, 11:23:17 PM
(http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/uploads/martini%20carbine/MARTINI_CAR_9.jpg)
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: WillieB on 21 November 2016, 11:28:54 PM
If it is indeed the Lee Enfield you mean then yes, not much metal is showing. The breech with a metal band going to the trigger guard, the rear sight,  the muzzle with the two characteristic 'wings', the magazine and the barrel band in between the last two. At least some of the Lee Enfield models had a brass butt end plate, others in blued metal.

Actually the Martini- Henry isn't all that different, except that in most models the entire barrel is visible.

Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Argonor on 21 November 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Great, I knew I could count on you gents!

Thank you, I shall now be able to paint some Zulu with stolen or bartered rifles for IHMN, then Congo, and wherever that slippery slope leads me...  lol
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Harry Faversham on 22 November 2016, 01:56:03 PM
Was reading something the other day that kind of put the film, Zulu, in context. The article said that Zulus were more than familiar with firearms, using them for hunting, and that some of the Warriors were decent shots... kind of gives the lie to the blokes in the film holding the rifles upside down at arms length!

::)
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Plynkes on 23 November 2016, 12:02:37 AM
The reports of Zulus firing captured Martini-Henrys at arms length with one hand is believed to be not because of lack of know-how, but an attempt to mitigate the monstrous recoil the rifle had. The Zulus just weren't used to it. It gave an extremely powerful kick to the shoulder, which over the course of a battle could become very painful. British Tommies would come out of a fight black and blue, covered with bruising on the shoulder because of it.


Argonor - The rifle in question was definitely the Lee-Enfield (the British service rifle for both World Wars). For a while, back in the day, we had a little jokey thing going on LAF called "The Wrongly-Painted Rifle Club" because of it. Easy mistake to make, if you're not familiar with the weapon. I think the first ones I ever did I did wrong.
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Argonor on 23 November 2016, 12:42:35 AM
Argonor - The rifle in question was definitely the Lee-Enfield (the British service rifle for both World Wars). For a while, back in the day, we had a little jokey thing going on LAF called "The Wrongly-Painted Rifle Club" because of it. Easy mistake to make, if you're not familiar with the weapon. I think the first ones I ever did I did wrong.

I probably painted the rifles of my Pulp Figures tropical Brits the wrong way, then! lol

Got to remember that for the next ones I paint up...
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Ivan DBA on 23 November 2016, 02:31:36 AM
I painted the Lee-Enfields wrong the first time.  Then fixed them years later.  Can I still be an honorary member of the club?
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Harry Faversham on 23 November 2016, 03:26:15 AM
The other thing making the Martini-Henry a pig to shoot is the slim butt and the comparative lightness of the furnitures. Nice, if you've got to march, carrying the thing... but an absolute bastard when the drums begin to roll.

:o
Title: Re: Martini-Henry Question
Post by: Plynkes on 23 November 2016, 09:26:54 AM
I painted the Lee-Enfields wrong the first time.  Then fixed them years later.  Can I still be an honorary member of the club?

A bona fide member. You only have to paint them wrong once. Fixing your mistakes doesn't disqualify you. I'll inform the burly, surly doorman that you're to be allowed in. :)