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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Tim Haslam on 07 January 2017, 10:13:57 PM

Title: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 07 January 2017, 10:13:57 PM: Hi,
Do any of you guys know of a Ersatz M10/Panther model in 1:48 scale?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Predatorpt on 07 January 2017, 10:25:12 PM: I only know of the Warlord one, but it's 1/56 :\

https://store.warlordgames.com/products/panther-ersatz-m10
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Wyrmalla on 07 January 2017, 11:00:12 PM: Google throws up a conversion kit for the Tamiya Panther G by Hauler:

http://www.hauler.cz/e-shop/1-48-afv-photoetched-parts-8/panther-g-ersatz-m-10-389

(http://www.hauler.cz/photos/catalog/HLX48207.jpg)

Considering that they were just Panthers with sheet steel welded over them you could probably manage one with a bit of plasticard though (for what they were some genuine effort went into those things, just unfortunately it didn't do the Germans any good as they were never properly used).
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 08 January 2017, 09:07:41 AM: Thanks,
I did spot that conversion kit. But the company was based in Europe.
Any suppliers in the uk?
I'll probably have to buy a Tamiya kit and the kit above?
The plasticard idea may work on a 1:48 resin Panther from Blitzkrieg models?
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: carlos marighela on 08 January 2017, 10:47:28 AM: Quote from: Tim Haslam on 08 January 2017, 09:07:41 AM

I did spot that conversion kit. But the company was based in Europe.
Any supplliers in the uk?

I hadn't realised the desire for Brexit ran quite that deep. Has the UK physically moved as well?

Hannants carry resin parts from Hauler, you could give them a try.
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 08 January 2017, 01:58:08 PM: lol
Not quite that bad!
I did order parts from Gaso-Line before Xmas but paid a lot for tax/postage.
So I thought I'd try closer to home this time.
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on 08 January 2017, 02:16:52 PM: Tim, give Nic at Parabellum a call...the website is old but he has a shop and carries the Hauler and Tamiya bits you are after. The Tamiya Panther is your only real option.

http://www.parabellum.co.uk/

If you want to go with 1/72 you have the Dragon Ersatz Panther...and you can find loads of build info on that one. In fact, Brent Watterson (House of Queeg) just did some... https://www.facebook.com/groups/687656887994404/ And you can also see mine in the replies.
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 08 January 2017, 10:55:00 PM: Thanks for the info.
It has to be 1:48 really. All my other vehicles are that or 1:50.
Warlord do a nice Erstaz in 1:56 scale, but it may look too small next to my captured American half tracks (corgi 1:50)

I need to find someone with an old Panther model that needs some tender care and repair.
They may sell it cheap?
At the moment I'm looking at a probable £40+ to get this looking right!
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Predatorpt on 08 January 2017, 11:26:05 PM: I think I may have a 1/48 Panther. Bought it here, from another member, who was using it as a post-apocalyptic vehicle...it's already assembled and painted in a rusty color scheme. I just need to find it :?
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Predatorpt on 09 January 2017, 12:02:09 AM: And you have a PM, I just found out that I have another 1/48 Panther lol
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on 09 January 2017, 12:30:33 AM: Sounds like you might have your 1/48 Panther...and if you embark on some scratchbuilding to make it into an Ersatz M10 (not hard really) this link to the ones I did in 1/72 might help.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/message/1424050378/1-72+Ersatz+M-10+Panther+Project+Updated+WIP

I did a lot of research on this AFV and there has been a lot of errors on models over the years. Fortunately I was able to get a hold of some useful US Army field reports on the Ersatz M10s used by the Germans during the Battle in the Ardennes, with a lot of useful pics. If you want a copy of it (it is a PDF file) feel free to PM me or just hit the link in my posting (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47210/thread/1418400050). I had to redo my own project in some areas once the info came to light. Forums are great for helping you get things right!
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 09 January 2017, 06:10:06 AM: Superb help.
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Tim Haslam on 16 January 2017, 08:50:48 PM: Well I have my second hand Panther in 1:48, thanks to Predatorp!
Very generous.

I have a 1:35 Panther kit that I've been lent to see how this guy converted it to a M10.
So you never know I may even work out how to post pictures one day!

Great help guys
Thanks
Tim
Title: Re: Ersatz Panther?
Post by: Predatorpt on 16 January 2017, 09:16:57 PM: Quote from: Tim Haslam on 16 January 2017, 08:50:48 PM
Well I have my second hand Panther in 1:48, thanks to Predatorp!
Very generous.

I have a 1:35 Panther kit that I've been lent to see how this guy converted it to a M10.
So you never know I may even work out how to post pictures one day!

Great help guys
Thanks
Tim

Thanks for letting me know, it was quick to arrive :o Forgot to mention that I sent the headlight in a little plastic bag since it was off the sprue. Good luck with you conversion, I really hope you post some picture of it.