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Title: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 04 February 2017, 01:16:48 PM
Hello all,
I am excited to see others taking an interest in wargaming late 17th century/early 18th century New England.  1675-1710 was an interesting period of conflict in New England.  Last Summer I took on the idea of running a game based on the Deerfield Raid in Feb 1704.  Having been involved with the museum since the 90's, I felt a certain link to this engagement.  But how would I turn it into a wargame... for anyone knows the history of the raid, it was more of a fast massacre and would be over and done by turn two.  So, I came up with a what if scenario.  We playtested it using the En Garde ruleset from Osprey quite a few times, and with a few tweaks it was ready for its first game day last Oct at Fort Devens, Ma.  Then we did Adler Con in Manchester NH a couple of weeks ago.  I am definitely seeing an interest in more skirmish based 17th century New England gaming and welcome any questions, as this time period and place holds a special place for me.  We will be at Totalcon, Havoc, and Huzzah in the coming months, running this game... I encourage anyone in the area to stop by and say hi.

Here are some photos of my Deerfield game:

(https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387407_276304272786116_3811832793896575168_n.jpg?oh=b6e50d62b773208de4bf5243e3100999&oe=59455D93)

(https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16298523_276304276119449_3854021264353626521_n.jpg?oh=52e521cb459c4f7b5d42120f066c0af3&oe=5906BB77)

(https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895105_265960923820451_5201677509812537080_n.jpg?oh=fe4611199fff3a9b8365baf9dd643375&oe=590AF9E6)

More info can be found at https://www.facebook.com/MADDDWargaming/
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: GamesPoet on 04 February 2017, 02:17:22 PM
I saw that Deerfield Game, and it was nicely done, congrats!
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 04 February 2017, 02:19:43 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: zippyfusenet on 04 February 2017, 02:21:18 PM
Great looking game. Thanks for sharing. Those buildings look just right, very Olde New England. What are they and where do they come from, pray tell Brother David?
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: GamesPoet on 04 February 2017, 02:26:55 PM
I was about ready to ask the same question!
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 04 February 2017, 03:22:10 PM
I used Dave Graffam paper models as a template and scratch built them on foam core.  Used coffee stirrers for wooden floors and poster board for the shingles and clapboards.  The windows are crafted from granny grating.  Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: Captain Blood on 04 February 2017, 03:26:15 PM
It's a very appealing period and setting to play  :)
I like the buildings.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: mikedemana on 04 February 2017, 03:29:47 PM
That's awesome! I am staging the Deerfield Raid myself in two weeks at a local convention. We use my rules, Song of Drums and Tomahawks, which has each player controlling 7-12 figures in man-to-man scale, usually. For our game, I've divided the town into four sections, each section featuring a French/Indian raider and a townsfolk player.

I really like how your game looks. I'll take pictures of my game once it is set up. We are playtesting it tomorrow night.

Good stuff!

Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/

(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Miscellaneous/LPL_bades_zpsl7op2jaz.jpg)
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: GamesPoet on 04 February 2017, 05:43:05 PM
I used Dave Graffam paper models as a template and scratch built them on foam core.  Used coffee stirrers for wooden floors and poster board for the shingles and clapboards.  The windows are crafted from granny grating.  Thanks for asking.
That has me thinking that I might have a pattern or two of his, and need to check into this further.

So was the template printed on paper, and then attached to the foam core?
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 04 February 2017, 06:44:27 PM
That has me thinking that I might have a pattern or two of his, and need to check into this further.

So was the template printed on paper, and then attached to the foam core?

The 4 houses in  the first picture were done that way, you need to trim them to work with foam core.  I have pics on my Facebook page.  The other houses I taped the template on, traced them out and took the template off, then I either peeled the paper on the foam core and carved clapboards (the light blue house), or I glued posterboard and coffee sticks over the foam core like the brown house.  All the houses have painted interiors and coffee stirrer floors as well. 
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: zippyfusenet on 04 February 2017, 06:55:50 PM
Sir, you are a building building madman. My hat is off to you. Indeed, my entire head is off to you.

Can we build it? YES WE CAN!
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dinohunterpoa on 05 February 2017, 12:03:13 PM

There's a special flavor in wargaming the history of the place we live in; awesome idea, scenery and miniatures, CONGRATULATIONS!  ;)

Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: Patrice on 05 February 2017, 12:19:19 PM
Very interesting! (and I had never heard of this raid).
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 05 February 2017, 01:43:00 PM
Very interesting! (and I had never heard of this raid).

If you want to read more about the history of the actual raid, check this site out:

http://1704.deerfield.history.museum/

It's the best resource on the net for the raid.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: El Frantico on 08 February 2017, 02:28:42 AM
Very cool! I love all things colonial new world. Doing a bunch of reading on King Williams war for the Blood and Plunder expansion. There where lots of little skirmishes like this one that can make for some great game.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 22 February 2017, 11:52:14 PM
For anyone in the New England area, I'll be running the "Original" Deerfield 1704 game this Saturday at Total Con.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: mikedemana on 23 February 2017, 01:24:49 AM
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Native%20Americans/Deerfield_BurningCabin_zpsmbpbvbas.jpg)

Not to threadjack, but here's my AAR on last Saturday's "Raid on Deerfield, 1704" that I ran at DayCon.

Lots more photos and story on how I ran it on my blog:
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/2017/02/raid-on-deerfield-convention-game.html

(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Native%20Americans/Deerfield_TableLayout_zps33mohjwc.jpg)

Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/

(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Miscellaneous/LPL_bades_zpsl7op2jaz.jpg)
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: Argonor on 23 February 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Been thinking about some Salem-centered gaming - so I better keep an eye out for stuff like this...  ;)
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dinohunterpoa on 23 February 2017, 01:46:59 AM

Lovely table!!!  :-*
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 27 March 2017, 08:23:04 PM
Stop by Havoc convention in Shrewsbury, MA and check out the "Original" Deerfield 1704 raid game, complete with proper New England style houses.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dinohunterpoa on 27 March 2017, 08:27:12 PM
Stop by Havoc convention in Shrewsbury, MA and check out the "Original" Deerfield 1704 raid game, complete with proper New England style houses.

If possible, please post us some pictures of the whole action!  ;)
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: NickNascati on 28 March 2017, 01:36:11 AM
Dave,  The table and figures look great. Were you comfortable using the King Philip's War figures for early 18th century?  Seems like they might be a bit out of date.
Title: Re: 17th century New England wargaming
Post by: dave@noquartergiven on 28 March 2017, 01:38:21 PM
The clothing is closer than French and Indian war, as there were major changes in style between 1704 and 1756.  Beggars can't be choosers.... lol, IMO the KPW figures are the best alternative, until someone make 1690-1700 English civilians.  So, while I'm not saying it's ideal it works better than using later period models.