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Title: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 08 March 2017, 11:43:50 PM
Ya'll see this?

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17017008_1117178528404252_6492710833389756763_o.jpg?oh=216911e0d3f2723e5e52c360374cffa8&oe=592F8636)

https://www.facebook.com/perryminiatures/?ref=page_internal

8mm

What'ca think?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Captain Blood on 08 March 2017, 11:59:25 PM
Saw it.
Perry fanboy as I am, l'm afraid I think this one is just weird.
Can't fault their creativity and quest for fresh directions, but I don't think this will prove commercially successful.
Sometimes, you should just stick to your knitting...

But they have a long history of making the toys that interest them and they would want to play with themselves, so that's their right and privilege.

For once, I'm just a bit sceptical that they've hit upon a winner though...
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: juergen c. olk on 09 March 2017, 12:58:20 AM
I'll admit ,it's not my thing..love everything else they do...
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 09 March 2017, 04:03:07 AM
I'm a bit puzzled by it as well.

They say they are going to also have a terrain line to go with it.

And as a kinda historic guy, I'm not sure about have a red and blue army of the same miniatures.

Like I say, puzzling...
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Calimero on 09 March 2017, 05:02:25 PM

I’m not sure about this either… BUT, it is interesting to see the manufacturing process behind this project. Looks like it could help develop new abilities in making plastic figures with smaller and smaller details on figures… :?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Arthur on 09 March 2017, 08:07:35 PM
I'd seen the announcement on the Perry FB page but couldn't work up enough interest to post about the set, to be honest.   

I'm afraid I'll be joining the chorus of skeptics on this one...  :?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: fred on 09 March 2017, 08:22:02 PM
I'm intrigued by it. I'm a big fan of 10mm figures, so 8mm is close enough, especially as I don't do Naps currently.

Its also good to see smaller scale figures in plastic. GW have done it a couple of times, but not for a good while.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: fusilierdan on 10 March 2017, 11:56:04 AM
It looks interesting. I think the success will depend on the rules they use and if they market to the board game community as well. Bob Cordery's The Portable Wargame and Richard Borg's Battle Cry come to mind.

I certainly admire the Perry's for doing things that they want to do regardless of whether or not it may be a commercial success.

Dan
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 10 March 2017, 03:43:09 PM
I think I would have been more struck by the news if they had 2 sets of miniatures, one for each side.

Having only 1 set with 2 different colors definitely puts this into the "board game" category.

Obviously their target audience.

Let's see what they produce for terrain.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Norm on 11 March 2017, 12:00:15 AM
Great news. looking forward to them. they revolutionised 28mm with plastics, no reason to believe that they won't do the same with the small mass battle scale - they do look easy to paint.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: THE CID on 11 March 2017, 08:59:56 AM
Small and plastic my Nightmare.  >:(
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: grant on 11 March 2017, 10:43:47 AM
When I first heard about it I was intrigued but the two armies different colour and odd scale turned me right off.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: jambo1 on 11 March 2017, 10:50:12 AM
When I first heard about it I was intrigued but the two armies different colour and odd scale turned me right off.

Me too, thought that it could be interesting but seeing it, not for me. Good luck with it as they produce great figures. :)
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: joroas on 11 March 2017, 12:32:40 PM
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/Box%20and%20contents.jpg)

TravelBattle-Pre-Order-Available 22nd April
TravelBattle is a complete table top miniatures game in a box.
It is intended for gamers who have limited space, or those who are traveling on a long journey or holiday and need a gaming fix!
All the playing pieces are made of coloured plastic, and include two 3 dimensional green terrain boards with separate woods, grey buildings and red and blue armies. The size of the miniatures is 8mm.
The two terrain boards are designed to be placed together on any edge, giving the potential for 16 different battlefields. The 1" grid marked on the boards excludes the need for rulers to be used in the game.
The simple rules system should allow a game to played within an hour.
The two armies are generic Napoleonic forces of equal size and composition which make up three brigades for each side. There is a simple painting guide in case you which to enhance your armies and terrain boards.

Contents:
160 x Infantry
24 x Cavalry
4 x Guns and 12 crew
6 x Brigadiers
2 x 10" 3D Terrain boards
6 x Buildings
4 x Dice
1 x Set of rules

£50.00
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Gunner Dunbar on 11 March 2017, 12:37:58 PM
Hmm, missed the mark, they should have gone with nicely sculpted plastic 15/18mm similar to PSCs, then it would have opened up to a market beyond just users of their travel rules set.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: joroas on 11 March 2017, 12:39:21 PM
TravelBattle Pre-Order available now!
We're very happy to have just received first shots of the figures and terrain from Renedra for TravelBattle, now we can reveal all! The two green plastic 3D terrain boards are 10" squares with roads, hills, ploughed fields, walled areas and six separate buildings. The two boards are different designs but match up neatly side by side with roads connecting. This means you have potentially 16 variations of battlefield by turning the board edges around. The tree tops for the woods are separate to allow figures to be placed in wooded areas. We don't have shots yet (Terry and Renedra really are working their socks off for this release at Salute!) of the buildings and tree tops so what you will see here are mock ups. We also have a photo of the figure frame. There will be two blue and two red frames in each box.
Pre-Orders - we have put up a Pre-Order for TravelBattle on the Plastic Boxes page of our website and we will send them out as soon as we can after Salute. Just order as normal, and remember that monies will be taken at time of order. PLEASE NOTE: If you are going to Salute, and would like one, please DON'T Pre-Order as there will be plenty there to pick up. The direct link to the page is https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php…
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Belgian on 11 March 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Not sure about the look of the terrain and square forests, was intending to grab a copy but in doubt now. Will probably await reviews myself this time.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: grant on 11 March 2017, 01:07:19 PM
I am more than before convinced not to be interested. Seems a great idea and opportunity wasted.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: nic-e on 11 March 2017, 01:37:17 PM
I'm not a historical guy, But i am a guy with very little time who wants to play games. I also have alove of things that can fit neetly into boxes or that i can steal mechanics from to make my own travel games.

For that reason I am totally on board with this. It's a bit of fun that i can use to make a sci fi game in a tin box, or a fantasy game in a wooden chest, or a dungeon game in a flase book, without having to make new mechanics or try to trim aSoBaH down to postcard size.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Sir_Theo on 11 March 2017, 01:55:31 PM
I'll be interested to see what differentiates this from something like Command and Colours or the multitude of wargame board games you can buy, particularly those that blue the lines between board games and tabletop games.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Cubs on 11 March 2017, 03:15:51 PM
I think this is just the starting point for any number of possible expansions. The initial boxed set is necessarily generic and simplistic, but will no doubt then be built upon with various add-ons to give more options if it takes off.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Sterling Moose on 11 March 2017, 03:32:01 PM
Meh, love Perry stuff but this doesn't ignite a spark of interest at the moment.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: armchairgeneral on 11 March 2017, 11:35:16 PM
It might have been better to start with 18th Century or ACW first then the same figures in different colours wouldn't have mattered so much.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Norm on 12 March 2017, 06:39:05 AM
Weight of opinion here seems to be one sided, but I think that is set against the forum being inclined towards the 28mm scale and fabulously painted figures with equally fabulous terrain.

I have a bias the other way, I like gridded games and I am strapped for space, I shall be going for this. A few things come out of this for me.

Firstly the Perry's are very innovative and apparently well resourced, against the odds the predictions of many, they brought 28mm plastic into mainstream use, the prospect that they can do this at the smaller scale is quite exciting, as is the talk even at this stage of expansion plans.

It is a true travel set, each board is 10" square, so I can see this doing exactly what it says on the tin and being used as a vacation game, I don't think there is another mass battle figures game that you can conveniently do that with. 

The space / time strapped gamer is going to love this.

The fact that we are seeing Plastic Soldier Company and now the Perry's, both mainstream plastic producers are starting to embrace grided games in a commercial way shows this emerging market as being quite exciting.  It does seem to hold the potential in being the first single step in a word that could truly go in any direction, including the prospect of just plastic armies in boxes and gamers designing their own boards and sets.

I am pretty sure that in the future, this moment will be looked back upon as being significant in te same way as the Perrys ACW1 Generic 28mm plastic figures were.

I am also thinking, plastics NO assembly and paint on the sprue advantages, no blue and red for me!
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: armchairgeneral on 12 March 2017, 08:08:00 AM

It is a true travel set, each board is 10" square, so I can see this doing exactly what it says on the tin and being used as a vacation game, I don't think there is another mass battle figures game that you can conveniently do that with. 

Wasn't GW's Battle of the Five Armies set on a similar vein?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: gustav on 12 March 2017, 08:12:33 AM
hmm at first not convinced - but on reflection it may a great way for younger generation to get into historical gaming with minis -
certainly looks easy to setup and use.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: shandy on 12 March 2017, 08:26:25 AM
Weight of opinion here seems to be one sided, but I think that is set against the forum being inclined towards the 28mm scale and fabulously painted figures with equally fabulous terrain.
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The space / time strapped gamer is going to love this.

I get your point, as I'm a 15mm guy and space/time strapped. However, as much as I like the idea, I'm not convinced by what I've seen so far, starting with the price. If I'd want a travel set (and I've thought about this for a while), I'll get a couple of 6mm figures and make my own set - there are rules that could be adapted, even if you want to go for a grid. I also don't like the 'generic napoleonic' figures, I'm no button counter but if I don't use historical figures I'd prefer wooden blocks such as C&C uses. Incidentally, why not use C&C, the rules are probably better anyway?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Norm on 12 March 2017, 08:49:14 AM
I get your point, as I'm a 15mm guy and space/time strapped. However, as much as I like the idea, I'm not convinced by what I've seen so far, starting with the price. If I'd want a travel set (and I've thought about this for a while), I'll get a couple of 6mm figures and make my own set - there are rules that could be adapted, even if you want to go for a grid. I also don't like the 'generic napoleonic' figures, I'm no button counter but if I don't use historical figures I'd prefer wooden blocks such as C&C uses. Incidentally, why not use C&C, the rules are probably better anyway?

I think Perry set will capture the imagination and get the creative juices of others going, to do their own versions, it seems a small enough project to step up to. C&C is not a solitaire game and it needs more space, that alone may open the ground between the two options.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: LawnRanger on 12 March 2017, 09:02:11 AM
Think this is a great way to get my young lads into wargaming sounds  like its going to be quick ,easy and fun game  . just right for a 9 and 11 year old  boy to play with there dad in the garden  :D.
 
I find its the attention span of my youngest thats the problem in wargaming and if it only takes an hour to play thats great news for me.. General de  brigade takes a bit longer than that !  :)

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: fred on 12 March 2017, 09:56:29 AM
Wasn't GW's Battle of the Five Armies set on a similar vein?

Not really, it was a full wargame, using the Warmaster rules, on a table. It came with far more figures, but no game board. For terrain it had a large hill and some small ruins.

The figures were also fully compatabile with Warmaster so could be used with those rules and armies.

Can't really make my mind up on this, at first I was very interested, but feel less so now, mainly as I don't really want a travel game.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: matakishi on 12 March 2017, 10:17:32 AM
It's a board game not a miniatures game. They're only marketing it to wargamers in the hope of getting the people who play both (like me) interested. After all, wargamers know them and boardgamers don't.
As a board game it looks fine but the proof is in the play. Without being able to see the rules before shelling out £50.00 (a not unreasonable price for a boardgame with these components) I won't be getting it until I read reviews, by boardgamers.
The idea appeals, the Command and Colours stickers put me off so I don't own any- just play a friend's, But often with the Perry's the rules seem to be a secondary consideration to the look of the game so...
I'm hoping it'll be good.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 12 March 2017, 12:29:05 PM
It might have been better to start with 18th Century or ACW first then the same figures in different colours wouldn't have mattered so much.

Agreed.

I think ACW would have been a better pick for the introduction.

Given it's small nature, however, if they decide to go full in and back the product with expansion packs (French minis pack, additional terrain tiles, etc.,) then all bets may be off.

I guess it will depend on how the initial game is received.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Captain Blood on 12 March 2017, 12:56:42 PM
It's a board game not a miniatures game. They're only marketing it to wargamers in the hope of getting the people who play both (like me) interested. After all, wargamers know them and boardgamers don't.

Matakishi sums it up for me.

The Perrys are famous for sculpting brilliant miniatures aimed at tabletop wargamers. You paint the lovely miniatures. You create lovely terrain to play on. You play a tabletop wargame using rules of your choice.

This new venture is none of those things. It's a different category entirely. I too hope it's brilliant and successful for Alan and Michael. But it's a departure, for sure. It's a board game. with pieces, not a miniatures wargame.

Reminds me a bit of a game I had long, long ago, in a galaxy far far away, called 'Feudal'. Kind of a cross between a wargame and chess. Similar concept.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Shaun1969 on 12 March 2017, 03:13:07 PM
Maybe this topic is in the wrong board?

From the picture it's a battle on a 20x10 grid with 2 armies (red/blue) infantry, hvy/lt cavalry, artillery and commanders... With 2d6 per side... There's terrain that blocks and some that is passable.. And that's about it really... Game play will dictate if it sells and as far as I can tell the rules haven't been posted, a gameplay video hasn't been posted and well... It's released at Salute

hobby wise we are interested, but already don't like it because it's too simple (red/blue) its a funny scale... It's not a miniatures game, it needs expansions ( before its release ) it's not The right period...

Personally I'm interested to find out more, currently we are playing a lot of throw down CnC Napoleonics games and are enjoying then more that the first time

As with any good advertising, WE WANT MORE INFORMATION lol... And that's where we are really .. Awaiting the release

£50 is a bit high for me tho and so far the only issue I have

Could I get as good a game with Kallistra 10mm AWI packs deal 6for£30 split in halves and sprayed red/blue, using my heroscape hex terrain and an A4 sheet of rules... Possibly
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 12 March 2017, 05:32:24 PM
Looking over Perry's Facebook page, and the comments section, what happens next depends on how this initial game goes.

Given it is successful:

- Expansion board pieces and further soldier sprues and/or metal miniatures
- Individual component sales
- New games set in other eras

The folks at "Perry's Miniatures" (have no idea who it is) on the Facebook page also said that they look at it not just as a stand alone game but a way to play campaigns for setting up tabletop battles.

So I would imagine in this case the houses would be towns/cities and the miniatures would represent divisions/corps.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Arthur on 12 March 2017, 06:23:24 PM
The folks at "Perry's Miniatures" (have no idea who it is)

A couple of guys named Alan and Michael, most likely  ;)
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Shaun1969 on 12 March 2017, 07:52:56 PM
Would be good for the blucher/scharnhorst stuff I guess
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: flags_of_war on 13 March 2017, 10:32:00 AM
I don't get it myself.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on 13 March 2017, 12:44:50 PM
Not sure on the "Travel" angle to it  - bit of a misnomer to me. I cant see me playing it when travelling like travel scrabble!! I think its a fairly established feature of the hobby that you travel to play a game carrying your stuff with you or if hosting it, your opponent does, whether that's 6's or 28's at a club or at someone's dedicated room.

Seriously though,

I think (as others have said/mentioned) it taps into Command & Colours and also Blucher type games which seem to be increasing in popularity.

The figures are perhaps better than the wooden blocks but fail as miniatures - the recent 10-12mm plastic pieces out there for The Great War or the smaller plastics from GW Bot5A (or  the old Mighty Empires even) show what can be done. They aren't intended as miniatures I'm sure, only as pieces, but a large portion of the hobby looks for the former in games not the latter.

The scenery does look quite interesting and a different approach from tiles or card used in other systems.

It will be interesting to see what they do with it and where the expansions lead it to.

It seems a quality product, nice box art too. However I'd rather they stuck to 28's.

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Calimero on 13 March 2017, 02:49:23 PM
It might have been better to start with 18th Century or ACW first then the same figures in different colours wouldn't have mattered so much.

That would have been a great idea... and maybe a better sells to "historical" gamers.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: CptJake on 13 March 2017, 06:54:01 PM
For folks interested in the US, the WarStore has this up for pre-order at about $70.

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Timmo on 17 March 2017, 09:19:37 PM
It might have been better to start with 18th Century or ACW first then the same figures in different colours wouldn't have mattered so much.

That was exactly my view. I'd have bought some figures to play other rules had they done AWI or ACW however, that's perhaps down to my personal preference as I have Napoleonics already. As harsh as it sounds the box art is fabulously enticing but the contents could be considered rather disappointing in comparison.

I have to echo other comments in not being too certain who this is targeted at and at £50 that's quite a big price tag for something that looks a bit 'cheap' to me.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Costanzo on 19 March 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Perries consider the Eighteenth Century please?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2017, 12:23:39 AM
I'd take a closer look at that dodgy Photo shopped board. It's not even an image of a complete game.No figure base is going to sit like that on those hill sides.The woods are painted in !
At the moment all you can really say is £50 pre order, for a very pretty box and some left over bits from monopoly and Risk.
LawnRanger

I'd recommend tracking down a copy of Battle Masters a much better board game /war game.For younger Gamers.Or for that matter Hero Quest,and Space Crusade.

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Bergil on 20 March 2017, 12:57:27 AM
I'm interested in it somewhat.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: tin shed gamer on 20 March 2017, 08:48:55 AM
I'm not,uninterested.Just undecided,I can't make up my mind if its a lack of care or over enthusiastic posting. But posting images of three ups still with the flash attached ( Especially on the cannon.)seems a very amateur approach,or a school boy error.
Surely the whole idea of marketing images is to present your products at there best?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: LawnRanger on 22 March 2017, 09:58:50 AM
   If this is a way i can get my lads into wargaming at a early age and not over power them with rows of charts and ranges ( they do love a tape measure some what  :).
   After all this is a Board Game using Plastic soldiers .For the younger gamer / new wargamer that does not have Hoards of painted figures
 . Why would an old Guard gamer  want to put away his painted figures and play a game of this you would not do it .So its not aimed at myself ! 

As for the figures i dont think perry would put out any poor castings , i do have 10mm fig for age of eagles so after a few games, and the boys get into it then we can use them (based 20mmx 25mm so should fit into the hex. ok)
 
I did not start wargaming till i was 15-16 years old at the old Globe Pub in Wells Many moons ago  :D.I dont want to push the boys into wargaming too quick and put them off from the start. But this dose look like a good FUN, quick way to get them into it ..

Tin shed I Think Battle master will be a bit more than £50   :o IF you can even find a copy of it .. as for Hero quest we do have it but more of a roll playing game which the boys do like .

If this can get a few more kids playing wargames with there dads then thats Got to be a good thing surely.

Happy gaming all LR 



Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Hadrian39 on 22 March 2017, 03:52:09 PM
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Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: CptJake on 22 March 2017, 04:06:42 PM
If making this game helps them to enjoy the 'limited time' they have on this earth, why would anyone begrudge them their happiness?

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Hadrian39 on 22 March 2017, 04:49:58 PM
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Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Mattias on 22 March 2017, 07:02:55 PM
It seem more often than not that the Perrys do what they feel like doing rather than looking only at sales. Danish Napoleonics? Cape Wars? Me personally I'm very
happy that they do offer their sculpts for sale and that they by the pure quality of their work tend to get people to start new obscure projects.
This seem to be a rather odd project that they thought about for quite some time and like themselves.
I imagine running your own miniature company as opposed to being a hired sculptor gives great freedom to sculpt what you like. Also, as other sculptor have testified, you get alot of requests but those requests arent always followed by an order once the new sculpts are released. So going by what you like as opposed to what everyone else is wanting you to do is probably a good idea. And as always, if you don't like their latest offerings don't buy them.
I'm looking forward to this particular release to I can see it all painted and hear more about the rules.
/Mattias
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Gibby on 22 March 2017, 07:09:29 PM
I still think most wargamers aren't particularly active or vocal on forums, considering I see the same usernames across multiple forums, so it's hard to gauge how well this will do based on the reaction here. I'm sure it will prove popular enough for people who want what it's offering - a game to take around with you when camping, holidaying, white water rafting etc.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: tin shed gamer on 22 March 2017, 08:13:26 PM
Innovation is important. It's that simple. However so is presentation and that was my point,and even more so when your trying to get customers onboard with an unusual product with a high price.
As a sculptor it is possible to get tunnel vision when working on a project,no matter which end of the scale you are.Sometimes you just miss the mark.( which can be something you simply don't notice for some considerable time or not at all.) I've done it (elephant trunks that are too long.)the Perry's have in the past.( German motorcycles with wheels sized for mopeds for one.)No ones immune from mistakes.  personally I've no issues with the sculpting( only been shown with such visible flash)as smaller scales are an art form in themselves,and a different animal to 28mm.
Until there's an actual copy, so I can actually see what they have in mind rather than hints that are open to interpretation . I'll remain scratching my head.
If it is a travel game then it suffers from the same fatal flaw all travel games do.Small parts don't travel well ,and often end up in a different location to the rest of the box.However the figures at this stage appear to require assembly/basing so that would suggest a its not intended as a travel set (a travel game that requires gluing together before you can use it!) nor would expansion sets.

No its on the fence I sit and non the wiser I remain.
Mark.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: carlos marighela on 23 March 2017, 02:38:40 AM
Maybe it will be the next 'Travel Scrabble'. Perfect for those waiting for the Apocalypse. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EO6abKG5Hg
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: mweaver on 23 March 2017, 03:57:16 AM
I walk a lot, and I already have trouble dodging cars whose drivers are yakking or - worse - texting on their cell phones.  Now I am going to have to dodge drivers who are playing TravelBattle?!  Aieeee!

They are trying something new, and something that might draw more younger gamers into the hobby.  Best of luck to 'em, says I.

-Michael
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Bergil on 23 March 2017, 06:49:52 AM
Oh for the love of heaven, they are incredibly talented and amazing sculptors.  This is a commercial venture and as a customer I am expressing my view on a waste of talent in a commercial venture which could be better spent on sculpting more amazing figures.  If this is not a commercial venture as you seem to indicate CaptJake but for personal happiness, although how you have supreme insight into their motivation eludes me, then why are they selling this?  My point is they are great sculptors and people love their work, if they are going to make something to sell then continue doing what they are great at.  



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Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: tin shed gamer on 23 March 2017, 06:55:01 AM
No They're not daft, They worked for GW when I did . They know small scales are a hard sell .when it comes to encouraging younger and new players.Thats why Epic scale has Titans.No their target market capture age is 12-13.(regardless of packaging).which is one of the reasons I left,That and Maggie sent me on a desert holiday and her mate John said I had to stay.
Having gone back and read everything they've written about it.Two things stick out there's no mention from the company that its actually aimed at an entry level That idea comes in as a face book question.Nor that its a travel game.
It's a battle in a box idea. Which as mentioned by others already is an expanding market. And since that phrase is already part of other companies marketing. Travel is the next best marketing idea for a name,for their toe in that market.
But grown up thoughts aside it does confuse the hell out of you. Which has led to this threads of gentle musings and Mickey taking.
No a better explained marketing push has to be in the pipeline. Rather than the couple of paragraphs to die hard fans on Facebook.
But the name definitely deserves the ribbing its getting.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Cubs on 23 March 2017, 03:35:32 PM
Frankly I don't think the response to this has been extreme enough. It's akin to self-immolation, it's akin to smearing themselves up in a dirty protest and howling obscenities at a convent. Damn them, damn their eyes, their teeth and their pancreas for doing something different. I hate them for surprising me and hope they boil in hot Vimto for all eternity.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Hadrian39 on 23 March 2017, 04:02:39 PM
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Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Sarge Canard on 23 March 2017, 07:32:48 PM
Frankly I don't think the response to this has been extreme enough. It's akin to self-immolation, it's akin to smearing themselves up in a dirty protest and howling obscenities at a convent. Damn them, damn their eyes, their teeth and their pancreas for doing something different. I hate them for surprising me and hope they boil in hot Vimto for all eternity.

 lol

Now that's an over-reaction  ;D
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ray Rivers on 23 March 2017, 07:45:29 PM
They have been in business ... successfully... for a long time.

I give them the benefit of the doubt and adopt a "wait and see" attitude as to what happens.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on 23 March 2017, 08:18:07 PM
I saw a copy of May's Wargames Illustrated today while Dan was here in GHQ taking photographs and there is an article on this with a number of photos in the issue. It may clear up some people's questions perhaps.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Arthur on 23 March 2017, 09:35:50 PM
Frankly I don't think the response to this has been extreme enough. It's akin to self-immolation, it's akin to smearing themselves up in a dirty protest and howling obscenities at a convent. Damn them, damn their eyes, their teeth and their pancreas for doing something different. I hate them for surprising me and hope they boil in hot Vimto for all eternity.

You forgot the part about chopping off their own genitals and eating them raw with Indonesian mayonnaise that's sixteen months past its use-by date.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Cubs on 23 March 2017, 09:39:25 PM
I didn't want to get too silly and be accused of over-reaction.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Arthur on 23 March 2017, 10:12:12 PM
Self-castration with a blunt teaspoon strikes me as the sane, rational and polite thing to do in the face of an outrage that is so outragey in its extremity - granted, the rank mayo might be pushing the enveloppe somewhat.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: james on 24 March 2017, 07:22:40 AM
For its intended purpose is great...a..gaming fix for traveling. maybe get some kids away from Warhammer and 40k  shite as well
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: carlos marighela on 24 March 2017, 11:48:49 AM
For its intended purpose is great...a..gaming fix for traveling. maybe get some kids away from Warhammer and 40k  shite as well

Might just be a piss take of Peter Hofschroer's most famous title. Pete would probably like a copy, it would probably fit through the cell bars.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Ninefingers on 25 March 2017, 07:24:50 AM
We need a Wargames equivalent to Godwin's Law; how long into a thread before someone says Warhammer is shit and just for kids?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: carlos marighela on 25 March 2017, 07:39:50 AM
Warhammer is shit and just for kids with developmental issues and poor social skills.

FTFY.  

You should have placed a bet while you had the chance. :D
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Sarge Canard on 25 March 2017, 10:46:02 AM
We need a Wargames equivalent to Godwin's Law; how long into a thread before someone says Warhammer is shit and just for kids?

Yeah, but it's all elfs and goblins and stuff innit?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Captain Blood on 25 March 2017, 11:24:17 AM
This seems to be roaming away from the original topic. Please keep it about the Perry's Travel Battles Game, and let's not stray into things GW, even in banter. Because you just know someone will take it seriously.
And there's a whole other thread for that.
Thank you.
:)
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: niktherake on 25 March 2017, 11:36:11 AM
It has sufficient cutes to interest and is from one of the top plastic miniatures companies - albeit not so well known for their wargames rules.

Definitely this is a boardgame and the obvious competition is not so much Commands and Colors as Hold the Line: the American Revolution (https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/198630/hold-line-american-revolution) which sells for much the same but has 25% more figures at 22mm size by PSC, an established ruleset and a truckload of scenarios. No 3d board or terrain and not a travel game, if that is a big thing.

As others have commented it is impossible to reach a definitive view in the absence of the rules. We are within 4 weeks of the release date and pre-orders are being solicited, so they should be made available.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Norm on 25 March 2017, 12:05:01 PM
Perry's did not make their 'Firepower' rules available that come with their 28mm ACW army set, so there is little to hang your hat on that the travel rules will be available to browse pre-purchase.

A lot of gamers already have figures of their choice and so if the rules were free, gamers could simply make up a square grid board (easy to do) and circumvent any money going to the Perrys at all and I doubt the first print run of this game could survive that.

I also think a lot of gamers are think in terms of something being either a figure game or a boardgame, rather than a melding of the two, it is in the area of cross-over that there is a huge potential to explore and I think the perrys have both the vision and resources to do that.

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: JamesValentine on 25 March 2017, 04:27:32 PM
I'd comment...but after reading some previous comments I might get dodgy feedback hanging around so many kids  lol
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Oldgamer on 28 March 2017, 11:16:13 PM
I am quite tempted but will wait until l see the finished product before buying. I am not keen on Napoleonic as a rule but could overlook this, ACW would have been my preference or maybe AWI.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Cubs on 11 April 2017, 11:16:07 AM
The painted version looks pretty. No close-ups of the figures yet.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/rsU71EzXl6ud/540.jpg)

Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Vanvlak on 11 April 2017, 12:18:01 PM
The painted version looks pretty. No close-ups of the figures yet.

(https://myalbum.com/photo/rsU71EzXl6ud/540.jpg)


Agreed - this got me wavering.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: delbruck on 11 April 2017, 01:34:50 PM
Very cool. Nice looking terrain board, which appears to be 10" x 20".
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: tomrommel1 on 11 April 2017, 02:18:21 PM
nice indeed
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: LCpl McDoom on 11 April 2017, 04:29:01 PM
Looks intriguing & can see possible applications; e.g., a quick 'Corunna, Pie & Pint' down the pub one night. I would love to have a peek into the rules.

If it's meant to garner boardgame interest, it's a shame it's not on BGG. I may ask if they want it put up there, as I've done that for several sets of wargames rules.

Price - not sure yet, it's at an amount that makes me hesitate in pressing the 'Buy' button. One to ponder.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: delbruck on 11 April 2017, 05:52:08 PM
I wonder if the hills are a paint affect, or are they actual elevations?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Costanzo on 11 April 2017, 11:21:58 PM
I think this is a new and good idea in a hobby too conservative. The next step should be an expansion with the game campaign.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: niktherake on 12 April 2017, 05:50:27 AM
I wonder if the hills are a paint affect, or are they actual elevations?

Elevations - see the unpainted version on the first page of this thread.

The professionally painted and flocked version does look attractive, but would we expect any less from a publicity shot? Until the rules are revealed it is still not clear whether the 'raw' components in the box represent good value.

(But I am weak, my pre-order is already in).
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: JamesValentine on 19 April 2017, 10:50:30 AM
I like the look of it myself. glad the painted version has received less childish whinging haha
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: CptJake on 24 April 2017, 07:06:12 PM
Anyone get any pictures or info pertaining to this at Salute?
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: nic-e on 24 April 2017, 07:52:49 PM
I saw it at salute and nearly got one but decided to wait.

I know it's obvious, but it's really small! Much smaller than i though, but it's a neat little thing and it looked to be giving the layers a fun time.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: levied troop on 25 April 2017, 06:45:27 AM
Anyone get any pictures or info pertaining to this at Salute?

I spent part of the Friday night before Salute watching the Perry's and a couple of chaps playing it on the bar table next to me, it fitted neatly onto a small bar table and everybody seemed to be having fun.  I was a bit dubious about the idea when I first heard about it, but I can see the attraction, useful for post big game entertainment.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: LCpl McDoom on 25 April 2017, 10:49:31 AM
Interesting review, well written I think, with some pictures:
http://theswordinthesprue.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/review-travel-battle-from-perry.html
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: Jabba on 25 April 2017, 12:08:29 PM
The display set painted up at Salute

(http://i.imgur.com/1fBnHFc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fUyWukn.jpg)
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: AlyMorrison on 25 April 2017, 02:10:15 PM
yup!...it's a fair cop...

I did that.... :D
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: CptJake on 25 April 2017, 07:56:01 PM
Thanks for the Salute pics and link to the review.

I pre-ordered from The Warstore and think I'll be happy I did so.
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: RedRowan on 25 April 2017, 09:43:16 PM
yup!...it's a fair cop...

I did that.... :D

Very nice job on that Aly, I don't think my eyes would be up to that these days.

Steve
Title: Re: Perry's Travel Battles Game
Post by: DegenerateElite on 25 July 2017, 07:02:41 PM
In case anyone missed it, the Perry site has all the sprues and boards up for order as individual bits now.


The figure sprues are done in standard grey.