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Title: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Troublemaker Games on March 20, 2017, 09:20:52 AM
New models from Vanguard:

(https://i1.wp.com/vanguardminiatures.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/infantry1.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/vanguardminiatures.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/heavy2.jpg)



Basic Infantry Squad: link (http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/28mm-tainted-novan-regulars-rifle-squad/)

Heavy Weapons Team: link (http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/28mm-tainted-novan-regulars-heavy-weapons-team-x-1/)
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: mrgrigson on March 20, 2017, 01:37:08 PM
What the better-dressed chaos militia wears these days? The shoulder pads feel like Warzone. The faces feel kind of... Deep-one hybridish?

An odd little mash-up to be sure. Not my thing, but decently done.

Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Conquistador on March 20, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
Full contact, armed, American Football!  Where are my THW SF football rules?
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Wachaza on March 20, 2017, 04:02:20 PM
Ming the Merciless goes Chaos.

That axe is so top heavy it's untrue. I thought it was a shield in the first picture.
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: The_Beast on March 20, 2017, 06:52:41 PM
Ming the Merciless goes Chaos.

My first thought! MUST have red with gold details.

Quote from: Wachaza
That axe is so top heavy it's untrue. I thought it was a shield in the first picture.

They're doing WONDERFUL things these days with lightweight plastics.  lol

Doug
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 20, 2017, 06:58:16 PM
Kind of digging them traitor guard are always my thing I particularly like the heavy weapons team. That squad leaders axe though is just ridiculous in a setting with daemons, psykers and an immortal god emperor I find that axe unrealistic  ;D
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Luddite on March 20, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
These would be excellent if they weren't covered in Chaos icons.

Underlying they have a very nice sort of 1930's vibe.
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Hobby Services on March 20, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
These would be excellent if they weren't covered in Chaos icons.

Underlying they have a very nice sort of 1930's vibe.

What Chaos icons?  I assumed they were alt-history military branch of Chessex Distribution.  Somebody's got to hold off the legions of Diamond Comics.  :)
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: SotF on March 20, 2017, 08:19:31 PM
The chaotic bullseye in the forehead is also offputting...
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: vodkafan on March 22, 2017, 12:08:40 PM
A curious blend of Art Deco styling and GW.  I won't be buying any, but I guess they they will fit someones project. 
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Conquistador on March 22, 2017, 12:51:09 PM
It's a "shoot here" indicator for near sighted snipers.
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Major_Gilbear on March 22, 2017, 12:51:52 PM
Hmm, a good effort, but far too many small things that really just aren't quite right for me, sorry. Specifically:

1) Shape and bulk: the upper armour and pads make them look very top-heavy, and the upper legs could therefore do with some armour as well to balance the model out a bit.

2) Proportions and pose: neither are quite right, which makes them look a bit... odd, and stiffly-posed. The "Innsmouth Look" indeed!

3) The rifles also look "off". I think the clip size and shape doesn't help, nor does the icon that looks like a little gearwheel before you realise what it's supposed to be.

4) The Chaos star iconography is very... Unchaotic? I think that if you're going to commit to putting iconography on the models, it needs to look more that just a badge; it needs to be more integrated into the designs of equipment or the shape of armour, etc.

5) Chainaxe is ridiculous. I'm all for "heroic" over-sized weapons, but that is waaay too bulky and huge.

6) Little details: faces, boot laces, creases on trousers and boots, hands (the left rifle hand looks like they're practising guitar chords, the right looks like a balled-up fist).

So, not bad, but could definitely be a lot better if more attention was given to getting the pose and details looking "right".
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Elbows on March 22, 2017, 01:53:40 PM
These are definitely a miss for me, but I chuckled because my very first thought was "Where's Flash Gordon when you need him?" and it appears I wasn't the only one.  I suspect some people may find them suitable for more pulpy-scifi?
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Conquistador on March 22, 2017, 02:37:21 PM
These are definitely a miss for me, but I chuckled because my very first thought was "Where's Flash Gordon when you need him?" and it appears I wasn't the only one.  I suspect some people may find them suitable for more pulpy-scifi?

If I played that genre in that size (no to both) I would consider them I admit.
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: JamesValentine on March 22, 2017, 03:08:49 PM
I love them! Got links to site please?
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: TWD on March 22, 2017, 03:38:10 PM
I love them! Got links to site please?
*Ahem*

Basic Infantry Squad: link (http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/28mm-tainted-novan-regulars-rifle-squad/)

Heavy Weapons Team: link (http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/28mm-tainted-novan-regulars-heavy-weapons-team-x-1/)
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Troublemaker Games on March 24, 2017, 10:57:54 AM
Hey look, it's one of those annoying preview images where they distort the picture so you can't properly see the sculpt!
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Conquistador on March 24, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
Um, I thought that was just a drawing (slightly Picasso?) when I first saw it.  Is it considered artistic to distort an image like that?
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: Troublemaker Games on March 27, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
Um, I thought that was just a drawing (slightly Picasso?) when I first saw it.  Is it considered artistic to distort an image like that?
Pretty silly, I think. :-)

I've been asked to share a close-up picture of the heads.
Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: The_Beast on March 27, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
While I can overlook many of Gilbear's quite justified quibbles, tis sad the chaos marks couldn't have been left to decals.  :(

Doug

Title: Re: New scifi infantry from Vanguard Miniatures
Post by: eilif on March 28, 2017, 02:59:37 AM
I have no use for them, but I like that someone make chaos IG based on the old RT IG figs.  I think that many of the design choice quibbles that folks have about these might not be much different than the shortcomings of the old figs.

I am not fond of the boots though.  Straps and buckles would be far more imposing than luchador lace-ups.