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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Lord GreyWolf on 17 April 2017, 08:22:01 AM
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I am currently backing Star Eagles (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/282429745/star-eagles?ref=user_menu) on kickstarter and just getting the printed rules.
I am trying to find spaceships or starfighters that are either 1/285, 10mm or 15mm scale.
I am after something to represent:
3-5 light fighter
1-3 Medium fighter
1-3 medium fighter [alternate version]
1-2 heavy fighter
1 gunboat
appreciate any help given to this project.. i do need at least two different factions one for me and one for my 9 year old son.
Nothing pulp or retro. My googling powers are evading me at the moment.
cheers
LGW
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Hmm, most of the stuff I can think of is smaller however...
The X-Wing miniatures game is 1/270 so that may work for you? For a cheaper option, buy some of the Micro Machines packs as some of them match that scale exactly. Obviously very recognisable though.
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This thread might be worth a look:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=99393.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=99393.0)
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15mm would be HUGE... :o
That's almost the size of old Micro Machines Action Fleet, right?
Not sure what their assumed scale is, but I think some of the Brigade Models' Squadron Commander Reheat game might be worth a look.
Brigade Models Squadron Commander (http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/SquadronCommander/)
I've a few squirreled away somewhere for a re-attempt at Hard Vacuum, and they seemed large, the larger ones maybe used as 1/300, to me.
Doug
Edit: You could always look into kit bashing 1/300 plastic jets. Cutting off wings, filling in air intakes, that sort of thing.
Edit, part deux: I STILL think we need a facepalm emoticon. Bob Murch's Star Crush 1/240 (https://www.cruciblecrush.com/content/)
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cheers guys
sent a PM to CompanyB see what they can do..
LGW
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Considering the success of X-Wing in that scale, there's surprisingly few other stuff around.
In addition to the above mentioned stuff, there's also the Silent Death ships (the plastic ones are available from EM4 - http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Science_Fiction.html (http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Science_Fiction.html)), but they seem smaller than the X-Wing/Star Eagles ones, but some could be worked to fit.
There's also the Battletech aircraft (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/battletech-c-1/miniatures-c-1_3/aircraft-c-1_3_8/ (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/battletech-c-1/miniatures-c-1_3/aircraft-c-1_3_8/)), though as with everything Battletech I've no idea of the actual size of these things, though classic Battletech is apparently 1/285.
Studio Bergstrom also do some great 'not-' fighters in roughly the same scale as the silent death stuff - https://studiobergstrom.com (https://studiobergstrom.com). Hope that helps.
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Brigade Models fighters are 6mm scale - they've also just released some new stuff:
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Blog/2017/04/squadron-commander-1/
I have seen a couple of these and they are very nice sculpts.
Hope this helps too :)
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There are the two Spartan Games ship models, they're quite big (each comes in two variants, 6-10mm & 15-28mm, made of acrylic, with or without resin detail add on bits). They're not bad & could be detailed up quite easily.
spartangames.co.uk/products/spartan-scenics/vehicles
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Considering the success of X-Wing in that scale, there's surprisingly few other stuff around.
In addition to the above mentioned stuff, there's also the Silent Death ships (the plastic ones are available from EM4 - http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Science_Fiction.html (http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Science_Fiction.html)), but they seem smaller than the X-Wing/Star Eagles ones, but some could be worked to fit.
There's also the Battletech aircraft (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/battletech-c-1/miniatures-c-1_3/aircraft-c-1_3_8/ (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/battletech-c-1/miniatures-c-1_3/aircraft-c-1_3_8/)), though as with everything Battletech I've no idea of the actual size of these things, though classic Battletech is apparently 1/285.
Studio Bergstrom also do some great 'not-' fighters in roughly the same scale as the silent death stuff - https://studiobergstrom.com (https://studiobergstrom.com). Hope that helps.
Been looking at the em4 miniatures site at their spacecraft they seem suitable just shame there are no bigger variants just the smaller ones.
the battle tech are in the same boat decent selection of smaller fighter and medium fighters but nothing for heavy fighters and gunboats.
Studio Burgstrom has some very cheesy names items there need to spend some time looking at the full range.
LGW
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Brigade Models fighters are 6mm scale - they've also just released some new stuff:
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Blog/2017/04/squadron-commander-1/
I have seen a couple of these and they are very nice sculpts.
Hope this helps too :)
nice minis again just not enough range to do the project I want to do.
LGW
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Toys and dubiously legal oversized Silent Death castings:
https://www.amazon.com/Pack-144-Space-Ships-Assortment/dp/B004N6V4KC
https://www.amazon.com/Toy-Space-Cruisers-Vehicle-Assorted/dp/B00362MR1E/ref=pd_lpo_21_lp_tr_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WJSX6KY4BKJVBM3RGF69
https://www.amazon.com/Toy-Space-Cruisers-12-Pack/dp/B00362RWOG/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00362RWOG&pd_rd_r=ZH5D0N5VKWED2835MA0E&pd_rd_w=5SKGw&pd_rd_wg=iaSxu&psc=1&refRID=ZH5D0N5VKWED2835MA0E
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nice minis again just not enough range to do the project I want to do.
Well, most of us are glad for a few we can ad to the mix and match. ;)
I held back on the Silent Death because of some of the designs of Star Eagles shows an influence, same reason I hesitated on the actual rip-offs [last of the three] Hobby Services brought up. I AM grateful to him, simply, while I respect and admire Leland, SOMEONE should mention those.
I will add that Metal Express has a subset line of resin models from their Silent Death that are three times as large.
Doug
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Been looking at the em4 miniatures site at their spacecraft they seem suitable just shame there are no bigger variants just the smaller ones.
If you combine the cheaper EM4 plastics with a good selection from the metal Silent Death range (http://silent-death.mx/store/ (http://silent-death.mx/store/)), you should be well covered.
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Toys and dubiously legal oversized Silent Death castings:
https://www.amazon.com/Pack-144-Space-Ships-Assortment/dp/B004N6V4KC
https://www.amazon.com/Toy-Space-Cruisers-Vehicle-Assorted/dp/B00362MR1E/ref=pd_lpo_21_lp_tr_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WJSX6KY4BKJVBM3RGF69
https://www.amazon.com/Toy-Space-Cruisers-12-Pack/dp/B00362RWOG/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00362RWOG&pd_rd_r=ZH5D0N5VKWED2835MA0E&pd_rd_w=5SKGw&pd_rd_wg=iaSxu&psc=1&refRID=ZH5D0N5VKWED2835MA0E
I have a few of the overside SD vinyl toys. They take paint pretty well and are great for 6mm or possibly 10mm in some cases.
I have the bag of 72 ships also but they are really rubbery and too small even for 6mm. Pass.
If you want 10mm or 15mm, these are your best bet.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009FF3VD4/ref=s9_simh_gw_g21_i1_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-6&pf_rd_r=0F7XXS4BA2MNVKPBBTQV&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869542&pf_rd_i=desktop
They are an army-men type plastic so painting is a bit tough (a plastic specific primer is probalby necessary and maybe some light sanding) but they are much better sized, being generally 3-4 inches long. They are spot on for 15mm or 10mm depending on the ship since the liners and fighters are the same size. Here they are laid out next to a 28mm figure
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/26/809569_sm-10mm%2C%2015mm%2C%20Airplane%2C%20Rinco%2C%20Spaceship%2C%20Toy.JPG)
I was told they are copies of Ultraman designs.
Lots more measurements here:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/689209.page#8737537
EDIT: just realized you weren't into Pulp. That would limit the usefullness of these, but there are a couple of ships that might still serve.
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Well, most of us are glad for a few we can ad to the mix and match. ;)
I held back on the Silent Death because of some of the designs of Star Eagles shows an influence, same reason I hesitated on the actual rip-offs [last of the three] Hobby Services brought up. I AM grateful to him, simply, while I respect and admire Leland, SOMEONE should mention those.
I will add that Metal Express has a subset line of resin models from their Silent Death that are three times as large.
Doug
spent the last hour or so trying to find the 3:1 resin Silent death miniatures that are not sold out No luck so far.....
Edit: Just added some of the various spacecraft I thought would suit a faction on the Silent death website total order $19.50USD total postage $18USD that was for 6 spacecraft. total amount $37.50USD [$53.50NZD] p&p will kill that option for me.
Edit2: Went to the Em4 Miniature site and added 5x sprues of the 12 pack spacecraft £12.75 [5x£2.55] + p&p £8.00 = £20.75 [$37.20NZD]
that would give me 60 minis to use in my factions with some cutting and converting I might be able to make some larger medium fighters and maybe even a gunboat.
if I increased it to 7 sprues it would cost me £17.85 + p&p £8.00 = £25.85 [$46.33NZD] and I would have 84 spacecrafts to use. This would still be a cheaper option then buying the 6 from the silent death website.
LGW
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Yep, the EM4 ones are a better deal. As for conversions there are some great exaples at boardgame geek of a gamer who make mutiple sizes of spaceships across several factions using just the plastic ships.
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/636657/eclipse-xeno-project-diy-spaceship-customization-d
THey're still going to be pretty too small for 10mm or 15mm, and probably even smaller than 6mm though.
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Yep, the EM4 ones are a better deal. As for conversions there are some great exaples at boardgame geek of a gamer who make mutiple sizes of spaceships across several factions using just the plastic ships.
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/636657/eclipse-xeno-project-diy-spaceship-customization-d
THey're still going to be pretty too small for 10mm or 15mm, and probably even smaller than 6mm though.
DAM THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!
I may have to give this a whirl... but rather than order 12 sprues I'll get 7 and just try and make 3 or 4 races... should be plenty on the sprues to do that.
Edit: Just placed and order for 7 sprues of the plastic ships. should be plenty to convert up at least two factions if not more....
Cheers
LGW
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The EM4 are great, and though they're 6mm, they're fine for that scale. I just think the X-Wing minis look a bit too big for 6mm, but thats just me. When you've got them and done some conversions let us know.
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The EM4 are great, and though they're 6mm, they're fine for that scale. I just think the X-Wing minis look a bit too big for 6mm, but thats just me. When you've got them and done some conversions let us know.
I'll up date this thread with my progress and how they are turning out.
As long as I can make 3 factions from the spacecrafts I am getting I will be happy. [one faction for me , my son and daughter.]
LGW
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Hope your family loves it!
Here's a brief (about 10 posts) project log that you might find inspirational. My son and I used cheap spaceships to make a game of "Starcrashers", one of the family-friendly rulesets from Ironhands.com (formerly Necromundicon). We played a few times and really enjoyed it.
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128
(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/6/1/804291_md-Cheap%2C%20Hex%2C%20Kids%2C%20Starcrashers.JPG)
I used the amazon cheapies, but I've got some of the em4 ships purchased. If he keeps enjoying the game I may add some more ships.
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Thx eilif
i enjoyed the battle report.
I'll update this thread as the sprues arrive working out the list at the moment:
Star Eagles list:
3 light fighters
2 Medium Fighters A
2 Medium Fighters B
2 Heavy Fighters
1 Assault Gunboat/Corvette
Depending on the amount of ships left over I might try and convert up some more variants .Like the Con Star Alpha Strike and Alpha Cobra... maybe even some of the A.I light/medium fighters as well. depending if we find out what type of ships they are before the KS ends.
LGW
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I have a few of the overside SD vinyl toys. They take paint pretty well and are great for 6mm or possibly 10mm in some cases.
The first of the three URL's, the one for a gross of ships, includes several designs from Message from Space, if anyone's keeping track. ;->=
Doug
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My em4 order arrived over the weekend and started to tinker around with options. Will post some pics when I get home from work tonight.
Like the ships and there is plenty to give us options for our games.
Cheers
LGW
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Here is my current Fleet one of each type.
2x Light Fighters
2x Medium Fighers
1x Heavy Fighter
1x Gunboat.
These will be used in the Star Eagles game that recently funded via Kickstarter.
(http://i.imgur.com/K8DtsuBl.jpg?1)
not quite done yet need to add in squadron markings of some type.
My total Fleet has the following
1x Gunboat
2x Heavy Fighters
6x Medium fighters
9x Light fighters.
I am writing up the universe we are going to play in and why there are only fighter type ships and no big cruisers or battleships etc...
my son's fleet 1x Corvet, 1 heavy, 2x medium and 3x light fighters.
(http://i.imgur.com/u6xyb27l.jpg?1)
his total fleet is:
1x Corvet
2x Heavy Fighters
5x Medium fighters
15x light fighters [he wanted a swarm fleet]
Cheers
LGW
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here is a size comparison to a Dropzone commander ship
my light/medium and heavy fighters
(http://i.imgur.com/9tylfibm.jpg?1)
My Gunboat
(http://i.imgur.com/lxqftRYm.jpg?1)
Will hopefully have stats sorted for each of the ships over the coming days. And maybe even a game this weekend as Beta rules are coming to the KS backers.
Cheers
LGW
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So was cleaning up my hobby shelves when I found three cubes...
I can not recall where I got them from but these are three plastic Borg cubes.
I think they might work for a Start Eagles AI faction Heavy fighter.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuBLfbJm.jpg?1)
not sure what to use for light and medium fighters or maybe just run them as Gunboats and make them over powered,,
Cheers
LGW