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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Sinewgrab on May 06, 2017, 03:47:10 PM
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Do anyone actually make such a creature? I have been trying to find some, and I have had no luck whatsoever. Is this going to be a case of buy whatever bikes I can find and lopping off heads to replace?
My local game group does a lot of Bolt Action, and we are moving into the Tank Wars version for North Africa engagements, so I'd like to have some troops not in a transport...
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Apart from German bikes with sidecars, the only ones I know of are one British dispatch rider by Foundry and a Harley Davidson (I think) but not sure of the maker. There are rumours of French and Dutch motorcycles coming out but the Dutch ones are likely to be German anyway. I'm assuming you mean in 28mm?
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Telling you the scale will help, won't it? Yes, I need 28mm. All I seem to find on the net is rumors or dead links...
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The only ones I can think of, off hand, are the lovely little ones in 15mm from Eureka. In 28mm, alas not. Your best bet is to hope that either Empress or Perry expand their existing ranges. Given the fiasco that was the Perry Miniatures BMW cum circus bike, Empress might be te better bet.
If you plan on using an existing bike as proxy, might I recommend the Tamiya 1/48 BMW and sidecar? It scales well with 28mm, is better detailed and being plastic is a damn sight easier to chop up, if you want to convert. At around ten to twelve quid it's competitive on price.
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The only ones I can think of, off hand, are the lovely little ones in 15mm from Eureka. In 28mm, alas not. Your best bet is to hope that either Empress or Perry expand their existing ranges. Given the fiasco that was the Perry Miniatures BMW cum circus bike, Empress might be te better bet.
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Battlefront also have them in 15mm but the Eureka ones are great!
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an italian manufacturer produced some poorly sculpted Bersaglieri motorbikes ...
http://www.strategianova.it/soldatini-e-resine/italiani-la-ii-guerra-mondiale/repubblica-sociale-italiana/bersaglieri (http://www.strategianova.it/soldatini-e-resine/italiani-la-ii-guerra-mondiale/repubblica-sociale-italiana/bersaglieri)
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an italian manufacturer produced some poorly sculpted Bersaglieri motorbikes ...
http://www.strategianova.it/soldatini-e-resine/italiani-la-ii-guerra-mondiale/repubblica-sociale-italiana/bersaglieri (http://www.strategianova.it/soldatini-e-resine/italiani-la-ii-guerra-mondiale/repubblica-sociale-italiana/bersaglieri)
Wow. You aren't kidding - those are not...well, good. Dammit!
If I were to try and convert, does anyone do an easily changed motorbike that would be even close? The Tamiya 1/48 is an idea (thanks Carlos), but are there Germans whose uniforms aren't too far off, so I could just do a head swap? I really don't want to break the bank on this, especially as I just dropped my tax refund on a mix of tanks from Warlord, Blitzkrieg, and Company B.
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Wow. You aren't kidding - those are not...well, good. Dammit!
If I were to try and convert, does anyone do an easily changed motorbike that would be even close? The Tamiya 1/48 is an idea (thanks Carlos), but are there Germans whose uniforms aren't too far off, so I could just do a head swap? I really don't want to break the bank on this, especially as I just dropped my tax refund on a mix of tanks from Warlord, Blitzkrieg, and Company B.
There is an alternative, that might fit the uniform a lttle better, although the bike and sidecar would be a bigger conversion and that's the Hasegawa Japanese bike. Two to a box but OOP and recently they have been attracting silly prices on ebay.
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a sidecar will come soon , but a French one , and it's a flat twin ...
i have seen elsewhere russian motorbikes WIP too ...
may be some day Michael Perry will release a Bersagileri bike ...
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Maybe we could start a thread listing the various WW2 motorcycles by scale, brand, maker, country etc.
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I love the Perry Miniature motorbikes. The revised BMW is very nice. I can utilise the bike without crew which provides for a number of potential vignettes. The Regio Esercito Moto Guzzi TriAlce is also a very nice piece with the addition of separate load (which can be removed), however the driver is in two parts, the lower section is attached to the bike. In addition, the three head options allows for variations and subsequent head conversion for other miniatures. The British three Triumphs and riders are again lovely pieces with many potential options for gamers/collectors.
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Actually, I reckon their original bikes for Foundry were better sculpts, albeit the wheels were still too small.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/worldwar2/german
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Actually, I reckon their original bikes for Foundry were better sculpts, albeit the wheels were still too small.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/worldwar2/german
Quite agree with you. Lovely model if you prefer the larger size overall.
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I'm working on a commission for an undisclosed benefactor for Russian motorbikes and sidecars
One of the two bike models is the BMW R-75 with sidecar woudl that help?
They are scaled to fit with 28mm as the interface of heroic minis and hard scale machinery is tricky!
They work out at approx 1-48ish. As the 1/56 are comically small.
I did a trial a few years back
1/56:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/IMAG0631_zpsc5192a67.jpg)
1/48:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/IMAG0632_zps09bfbedf.jpg)
Compared:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/IMAG0633_zps2eb808c9.jpg)
I'll post some pics of the current models in a mo...
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Still WIP
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170423_144423_zpsd8sdupml.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170423_144423_zpsd8sdupml.jpg.html)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170423_144408_zpslq6fz6pa.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170423_144408_zpslq6fz6pa.jpg.html)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170422_165811_zpsbb6vorhq.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170422_165811_zpsbb6vorhq.jpg.html)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/richardhumble/Mobile%20Uploads/20170418_205001_zpscaud5c3r.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/richardhumble/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170418_205001_zpscaud5c3r.jpg.html)
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Nice work! Those wheels look great
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Thanks!
I believe they will be initially part of a kickstarter.
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Have been looking for a bike combo suitable for Soviet use for ages keep us posted Rich.
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Have been looking for a bike combo suitable for Soviet use for ages keep us posted Rich.
1) Take one German motorcycle combination of your choice
2) Paint green
3) (optional) change the muffler arrangement using plastic rod/sprue.
The M-72 was a licensed copy of the BMW R-71.In fact, BMW supplied the dies and tooling. If you can tell the difference between the M-72 and the BMW R-75 in 28mm then you are blessed with a very keen eye for detail.
Oddly enough, nobody seems to do the Zundapp in 28mm. That has a distinctively different frame.
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Wow. If that is what we get for previews, I am glad I asked about Bersaglieri!
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I can't sculpt the riders but I'm happy to take on a commission for the bikes ;)
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I dearly wish Tamiya or another model maker had another 1:48 bike, be it from a Britain, France, the US or anywhere besides Germany. It's bloody impossible to find 28mm 30's/40's-era bikes that aren't that same Wehrmacht-use BMW.
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I can't sculpt the riders but I'm happy to take on a commission for the bikes ;)
Sorry Rich the lack of riders is the main reason I do not convert German bikes myself.
I looked at the German crew and with my limited greenstuff skills went nah lol
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If there is a demand for them then commission the masters, get them cast and make your fortune... ;)
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Sorry Rich the lack of riders is the main reason I do not convert German bikes myself.
I looked at the German crew and with my limited greenstuff skills went nah lol
Honestly, it's not that tricky. The Tamiya crew are easy to convert. Carve off any excess and paint as greatcoat. You only need to add an appropriate head and the Tamiya bodies will fit most 28mm heads.
Option 2. Paint them as wearing the camouflage oversuit. Just add a blob of green stuff around the collar to represent the hood. I did this to create some 1980s era Soviets.
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Here's my own conversion, waiting for paint:
(http://i.imgur.com/KpwFs3q.jpg)
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Very good Carlos - what make are those figures next to the bike?
I have to admit the bike model looks better than any of the existing 28mm metal stuff I have seen
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Eureka's Soviet Motor Rifles. Apols for the shitty camera pic. The rider and gunner are just conversions of the Tamiya crew with Eureka and PSC heads and some spare weapons I picked up at Eureka. Paint them as the amoeba pattern rather than KMLK and they would work for WW2.
The bike is a lot better than anything out there in metal at the moment. Tamiya kits are pleasant to build and at around $18 AUD it's around half of what a metal bike retails for here. Due to the issue with scale 1/56 wheels And 28mm figures it also looks better scaled.
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Thanks for the tip Carlos I will have a look online here in Oz for some
EDIT Just got one on ebay AU$14 inc postage - bargain
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I discovered that there's a reasonable-looking O-scale Harley or Indian (technically postwar, but it could easily pass for prewar, especially given Harley's typically laggard development) and I believe it's 1:48th O-scale
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/e1oAAOSw4shX~Epl/$_57.JPG)
Anyone try this one?
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There's also several british ones in 1:43, and these have riders.
http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Phoenix_Vehicles_1_43.html