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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: warrenpeace on July 06, 2017, 03:25:52 AM
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Having enjoyed the Pulp Plane Library thread,...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=58045.0
...it surprised me that we didn't have a similar thread for cars, trucks, and motorcyles. So, if the moderator allows me to start a such a thread, I propose that we post photos and discussion here for historical, or at least near-historical, cars, trucks, and motorcycles, a thread for wheeled vehicles. There's been recent activity with new cast models and 3D printed models. And there's always the old standby of diecast models being converted to use in Pulp games.
So let me kick this thread off with two images of a pair of diecast models that I just received today, both 1:43 scale, a Fiat Model Zero 1912-1915 from Rio and an Opel Laubfrosch Cabriolet Ouvert 1925 from Eligor, one view in bright sunlight to show the colors:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/149_06_07_17_3_51_26.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/149_06_07_17_3_50_43.JPG)
Oddly enough, today is the first day of a big classic car event in my little town. For 5 days we get to see lots of vehicles from before 1970. Two Pulp era vehicles, a sedan and a pickup truck, were parked right under my window an hour ago. for a little inspiration, if the moderator allows, here's a couple of photos:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/149_06_07_17_3_49_09.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/149_06_07_17_3_49_56.JPG)
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What are the dimensions on that Fiat 0? Got a picture with a figure next to it? I have a different Fiat Torpedo also by Rio, but I find while it scales well, it sits quite high and so looks out of scale a bit.
EDIT: Mine's a 501, but it looks like they've re-used the body at least between yours and mine as they seem identical at a glance. If yours is lower-slung though it might work much better.
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This 1932 photo of a Bugatti Royale 'Esders' Roadster with Jean Bugatti standing next to it looks like a lot of 28mm figures next to 1:43 scale vehicle models:
(http://www.todaysbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/jean-bugatti.jpg)
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The reasons for that are that people keep putting huge vehicles next to their figures, which fits mostly in this scene because Bugatti's luxury series were colossal. Their last, the Royale, was 6m long; not a sustainable extravagance in the Depression years.
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I have some Sarissa trucks and Glencoe cars I am working on; tomorrow I shall get some images up. The Glencoe mini kits include two twin kits, for a total of four cars, which are the right size; but the kits suck so horribly.
I also have some Models of Yesteryear for which I seek spare wheels, and some Amercom-hobby (http://www.amercom-hobby.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=64) items I shall post tomorrow.
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This 1932 photo of a Bugatti Royale 'Esders' Roadster with Jean Bugatti standing next to it looks like a lot of 28mm figures next to 1:43 scale vehicle models:
Quoth Wikipedia:
"The Bugatti Type 41, better known as the Royale, is a large luxury car built from 1927 to 1933 with a 4.3 m (169.3 in) wheelbase and 6.4 m (21 ft) overall length. It weighs approximately 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) and uses a 12.763 litre (778 cu in) straight-eight engine. For comparison, against the modern Rolls-Royce Phantom (produced from 2003 onward), the Royale is about 20% longer, and more than 25% heavier. This makes the Royale one of the largest cars in the world."
It certainly looks it!
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MoY:
(http://img09.deviantart.net/493d/i/2017/192/9/6/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzs3m.jpg)
(http://img11.deviantart.net/57c9/i/2017/192/6/3/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzshp.jpg)
Compared with Amercom:
(http://img12.deviantart.net/5770/i/2017/192/3/a/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfztal.jpg)
(http://img13.deviantart.net/b474/i/2017/192/e/e/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfztpj.jpg)
And Sarissa:
(http://img08.deviantart.net/6497/i/2017/192/e/2/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfztxm.jpg)
(http://img15.deviantart.net/23b9/i/2017/192/4/2/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzu30.jpg)
(http://img02.deviantart.net/a48f/i/2017/192/1/f/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzuch.jpg)
And Glencoe:
(http://img05.deviantart.net/1191/i/2017/192/f/b/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzugn.jpg)
(http://img05.deviantart.net/a0b4/i/2017/192/8/7/collecting_for_gaming_by_thoughtengine-dbfzum1.jpg)
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There was a swap meet two Sundays ago, and I got some items... pics to follow...
Also there appears to be an estate sale occurring at Townsville Collectables, and I got a few items there. There are a lot more left; few military vehicles, but many assorted scales of cars, a few trucks, bikes, some magazine collectables such as Amercom's Legendary Cars, Taxis and Batman series, and a whole bunch of assorted aircraft. I got 5 vehicles for $25.
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I can't seem to ever find swap meets for this sort of thing or other old toys in Toronto. Even the flea markets these days just sell the cheap new junk that even dollar stores won't sell.
I don't know why that might be, but I'm certainly jealous of those who have swap meets nearby and often.
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Those are only yearly here, anyway. If that. Here are the two I got there:
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4328/36178668456_202ea543f3_b.jpg)
Lledo promotional model, made in England, and that's all the information there is under that van; and no brand I could see under the fuel truck, apart from a symbol like a capital S with movement lines. That, and the vehicle at left in these images:
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4294/36219833445_1063336f58_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4295/36219833755_0465bd006f_b.jpg)
are pull-back toys.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/36178667656_1f4e087196_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4325/36178669136_95913d3961_b.jpg)
MoY and one Solido.
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Considering that I got those for $5 each, the cars seen here cost a packet:
http://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/20th-century/20th-century-c20th-follies/
http://www.oldgloryuk.com/highways-and-byways/41/151/405/413
http://www.companyb.biz/
Only to be used if you cannot get enough normal-looking vehicles any other way!
These may be worth it:
https://warbases.co.uk/?product_cat=vehicles
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Here's one more Model of Yesteryear that I actually remembered I owned thanks to this thread:
(http://i.imgur.com/WFfNSxl.jpg)
Handsome if as-of-yet-unfortunately-unpainted Pulp Alley fellow for scale.
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RAFM has a couple:
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02990&Category_Code=COCM
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RAF&Product_Code=RAF02974&Category_Code=COCM
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Dont forget IMCDB for every movie/TV vehicle (even ones in background) ever.
Pick a movie or TV show that has vehicles you want. Make list, then Google the cars with "1/43 scale" and youll know if they are available.
Also look at 1/43 scale model car sites. Many,. Many kits and bodies of Pulp era cars made for electric racing and shelf models.
Remember, many cars on a street are older. Not everyone in 1930 had a '30 Silver Ghost. Means 1920's and earlier vehicles are fine to use
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I have attached a link to my 28mm Gangster gallery. It is a huge gallery of photos, and shows a city layout in diorama form. On the streets of that city are approximately 50 die cast and resin cars and trucks. No question that this is a little self-promotional, but I have not attached pictures here because I have not recovered from my Photobucket cleansing. I think if you take a moment to check my gallery out you will not be disappointed by the great variety of vehicles you will see. The gallery can be seen at www.warin15mm.com/28mm-Gangsters---Stuff.html
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ALL of the stuff is wonderful. Lots, and I mean LOTS of inspiration there.
I recommend you go & look.
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No question that this is a little self-promotional,...
That's what LAF is all about when you've got pictures! And that's a really great set of photos. I especially like the band scenes with musicians and dancers.
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has.been and warrenpeace, thanks to you both for the very generous comments. Much appreciated! Richard
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Another swapmeet - this time at the All Holden and GM Day. Two more of these smaller Days Gone vans:
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4366/36163151820_269a038039_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/35724896224_a1a7e99bab_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/36391534002_074c6f8003_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4350/36391537872_5f5be026e8_b.jpg)
Two more smaller Days Gone vans, which should suit Savage Worlds.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/36163149200_bca1272659_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4363/36163144280_3e38820390_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/35724904284_7a1428feb8_b.jpg)
And another of those Chinese pull-backs. Note the strange branding.
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Nice models. I'll keep a look out for the make for future Pulp games.
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I have attached a link to my 28mm Gangster gallery. It is a huge gallery of photos, and shows a city layout in diorama form. On the streets of that city are approximately 50 die cast and resin cars and trucks. No question that this is a little self-promotional, but I have not attached pictures here because I have not recovered from my Photobucket cleansing. I think if you take a moment to check my gallery out you will not be disappointed by the great variety of vehicles you will see. The gallery can be seen at www.warin15mm.com/28mm-Gangsters---Stuff.html
Richard, its an AWESOME work of yours as usual, and highly inspirational for all kinds of projects in 28mm! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
P.S.> I don't recall seeing that Toy Story dino in the Batcave Diorama when I first saw your gallery a long time ago... GREAT IDEA! lol
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dinohunterpoa, thank you. Richard
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I've just got this Burago Limited Series 1:43 Jaguar XK120 Roadster 1948, the same car briefly used by the lovely Emma Stone in the movie GANGSTER SQUAD (2013) :-*
Mine is exactly as the movie one, but I could find no picture online; these pictures are from the usual Burago 1:24 scale model, that happens yo have the same features (lots of details, opening doors, opening hood with detailed engine, etc...):
(http://static.carmodel.com/photos/83176.jpg?1)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61vOW32XCFL._SX522_.jpg)
(https://fairfieldcollectibles.com/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/7/17317nx_open.jpg)
A late model for 30s Pulp for sure, but the model is so fine that it will be used by the Boss' red-haired girlfriend in our games and can be found parked in front of The Horny Unicorn Nightclub anyway! lol
Here a picture from the movie:
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Lots of pictures (with a 28mm figure for scale comparison) of the Matchbox Models of Yesteryear suitable for Pulp/Gangsters games here:
http://wargaminggirl.blogspot.com.br/2014/06/more-vehicles-for-gangster-project.html (http://wargaminggirl.blogspot.com.br/2014/06/more-vehicles-for-gangster-project.html)
;)
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Jag XK120 - one of my all-time favourite cars. I had a Dinky Toy version as a kid (in the fifties, forsooth). I wonder what scale it was.
Doug
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Jag XK120 - one of my all-time favourite cars. I had a Dinky Toy version as a kid (in the fifties, forsooth). I wonder what scale it was.
Doug
Doug, according to the site below, the vintage ( lol) Jaguar XK120 Dinky Toys is 97mm long, so it is EXACTLY 1:43 scale! ;)
https://www.toymart.com/Dinky-157-Jaguar-XK120/8871 (https://www.toymart.com/Dinky-157-Jaguar-XK120/8871)
Please take a look at the PRICE! :o
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A much more affordable and available car than the aforementioned is the 1:43 MP Lafer from the James Bond Cars Collection - a roadster with a very strong PULP feel IMHO! :D
(http://appsisecommerces3.s3.amazonaws.com/clientes/cliente310/produtos/45609/Z01451417226.jpg)
The MP Lafer is a Brazilian car (with a VW 1.6 rear mounted engine) made from 1974 to 1990, a replica of the British 1950 MG TD Midget. The car was featured in the Bond movie "Moonraker" (1979), driven by Aruban actress Emily Bolton as Bond's MI6 contact in Rio de Janeiro.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d0CdJx-nMB0/U_neB0WUGoI/AAAAAAAAE50/bHMHG9KRpOk/s1600/Lis%C3%A4%C3%A4%2BPIENOISMALLEJA%2B366COPY.JPG)
(http://www.imcdb.org/i006206.jpg)
Just waiting for PULP ALLEY RALLY! :D
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Doug, according to the site below, the vintage ( lol) Jaguar XK120 Dinky Toys is 97mm long, so it is EXACTLY 1:43 scale! ;)
https://www.toymart.com/Dinky-157-Jaguar-XK120/8871 (https://www.toymart.com/Dinky-157-Jaguar-XK120/8871)
Please take a look at the PRICE! :o
Wow...! Although that is for a perfect example in a mint box. If mine still existed, it'd be priced more like the other ones on that page. It certainly wouldn't be perfect or have a box.
I never knew before that those "T" type MGs were also called Midgets. Second-hand ones were quite common in the early sixties for about 50 quid - I was tempted many times (I mean the actual cars, not models).
Doug
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I never knew before that those "T" type MGs were also called Midgets. Second-hand ones were quite common in the early sixties for about 50 quid - I was tempted many times (I mean the actual cars, not models).
Doug
Still in time to get one! ;)
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Still in time to get one! ;)
I think they would cost a lot more now :(
Doug
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I think they would cost a lot more now :(
Doug
I've just said in another thread that I will trade my 1996 BMW Z3 for my neighbour's 1966 Karmann Convertible! :D (not very seriously... I hope!)
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I've just said in another thread that I will trade my 1996 BMW Z3 for my neighbour's 1966 Karmann Convertible! :D (not very seriously... I hope!)
I think I'd prefer your Z3 - I've always like those as well. I think it's nicer than the Z4. I have a model of a Z3 somewhere which is about right in scale.
Doug
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I think I'd prefer your Z3 - I've always like those as well. I think it's nicer than the Z4. I have a model of a Z3 somewhere which is about right in scale.
Doug
;)
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I got some more Days Gone at Townsville Collectables:
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4788/39161088930_0608d50561_b.jpg)
(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/39161089630_66143aee79_b.jpg)
(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/796/39161087390_c6fc0cedaa_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4795/39161086020_4601c153a5_b.jpg)
(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/791/39161084470_1442d18500_b.jpg)
They've put some more old stuff out recently.
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Produced from 1936 to 1941, the SS Jaguar 100:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/32/149-240318164626.jpeg)
This is a 1:43 scale model produced by Solido.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Jaguar_100
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A couple vehicles painted for our Pulp Alley scenarios ---
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/20180110_114829_zpskjcvvnqw.jpg)
More to come......
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Looking good.
They are similar to some 1:48 kits I've seen about, is that where they're from?
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That truck is definitely a Russian GAZ kit I've seen around. It's big, a 1:43, I think.
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Check out Reviresco at tin-soldier.com
Since every "Madman Bent on World Conquest" needs a suitable vehicle, I especially like the armored cars.
In 1/72 scale they offer World War One tanks and armored cars.
In 1/72 and 1/64 (28mm) scales, the offer trucks and cars.
Also, check out their paper buildings in 1/64 (28mm) scale.
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If I'm the last person on earth to find them then I apologise, but I haven't seen anyone using DeAgostini models, which seem pretty inexpensive on ebay, although you have to look a bit for suitable vehicles:
https://www.ebay.de/sch/Autos-LKW-Busse/180273/i.html?_from=R40&_dcat=180273&Ma%25C3%259Fstab=1%253A43&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=DeAgostini&_sop=15
Has anyone used them, and are they suitable for adaption or use in pulp games?
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Andy, my answer is yes. I might have one of this brand in my collection. But I think 1:43 scale is generally good for Pulp, especially with the large "heroic" 28mm figures that are so common now.
What time period interests you? DeAgostini is the only 1:43 scale brand I know of that has Soviet vehicles. If you want to set some adventures in territory controlled or supplied with vehicles by the Soviet Union, there is virtually no alternative to DeAgostini. I believe the brand produces some nice German vehicles too.
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If I'm the last person on earth to find them then I apologise, but I haven't seen anyone using DeAgostini models, which seem pretty inexpensive on ebay, although you have to look a bit for suitable vehicles:
https://www.ebay.de/sch/Autos-LKW-Busse/180273/i.html?_from=R40&_dcat=180273&Ma%25C3%259Fstab=1%253A43&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=DeAgostini&_sop=15
Has anyone used them, and are they suitable for adaption or use in pulp games?
At one point I had several DeAgostini cars and trucks, but sold them because they seems FAR too large to me, even though I'm using 32+ mm figures (but they're on flat bases). I find 1:55 is a sweet spot for cars for me, but since very few such cars exist except in lines that sold cars in "Box scale" (i.e. the car is scaled to fit in a box, not to any particular fixed scale), I wound up collecting a hodgepodge of cars which ended up "looking right". Did get exactly what I wanted in the end though.
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Andy, my answer is yes. I might have one of this brand in my collection. But I think 1:43 scale is generally good for Pulp, especially with the large "heroic" 28mm figures that are so common now.
What time period interests you? DeAgostini is the only 1:43 scale brand I know of that has Soviet vehicles. If you want to set some adventures in territory controlled or supplied with vehicles by the Soviet Union, there is virtually no alternative to DeAgostini. I believe the brand produces some nice German vehicles too.
Probably a mix of 1930's -50's depending on what captures my lads interest. I have a feeling whatever the era it'll be more cops and gangsters with car chases than military: we'll be testing the Pulp rules for cars to breaking point. Maximilian 1934 may come into play as well. In this context historical accuracy will be less important because the unfortunate models will be dunked into noxious chemicals to get rid of the paint and then customised fairly heavily.
At one point I had several DeAgostini cars and trucks, but sold them because they seems FAR too large to me, even though I'm using 32+ mm figures (but they're on flat bases). I find 1:55 is a sweet spot for cars for me, but since very few such cars exist except in lines that sold cars in "Box scale" (i.e. the car is scaled to fit in a box, not to any particular fixed scale), I wound up collecting a hodgepodge of cars which ended up "looking right". Did get exactly what I wanted in the end though.
I can see that point: was the problem cars generally in 1:43 scale or that particular make? I'll be making a 1:43 scale truck with one of my lads soon so we can do a comparison with the figures we have.
I must admit having watched some of the old 'Pulp' serials from the 30's and 40's I'm a lot more relaxed about the size of private cars: from a European perspective the cars they used were massive...
Getting hold of 1:55 scale cars is hard unless you want modern German models as made by Siku. Fortunately my model railway is a modern German setting...
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I can see that point: was the problem cars generally in 1:43 scale or that particular make? I'll be making a 1:43 scale truck with one of my lads soon so we can do a comparison with the figures we have.
I must admit having watched some of the old 'Pulp' serials from the 30's and 40's I'm a lot more relaxed about the size of private cars: from a European perspective the cars they used were massive...
Getting hold of 1:55 scale cars is hard unless you want modern German models as made by Siku. Fortunately my model railway is a modern German setting...
It was 1:43 scale in general. The biggest factors that made it stick out for me were that my figures could not reasonably shoot over the hoods of the cars (an important consideration!) and did not look like they would be tall enough to drive them.
With tall bases, this might change a bit, but I have flat bases, so the cars needed to match the figures more closely in scale. The way I ended up working the problem out was to go with a mix of cars - some conversions (vodkafan made the wonderful discovery that Matchbox Wheels on Lledo cars works surprisingly well in some cases!), some "box scale" cars, some cars which were 1:43 or 1:48, but which were VERY small cars in real life (mostly compact Fiats & Peugeots), such that the model versions ended up looking like average cars.
Here's my motor pool:
Fleet pics.
These are all the vehicles which have been repainted/weathered/varnished/etc. and are ready for gaming. Now you can see the birdshit I put on the delivery van's roof lol
(http://i.imgur.com/7Q5kMBC.jpg)
These ones are in various states (the whippet tank doesn't need any work, but I couldn't fit it with the previous row). Some just need a little weathering (the big saloon and the red torpedo are on the large side, so I'm hedging about keeping them... the tractor is a keeper but needs a good mudding), some need a repaint (the RAF Ambulance Crossley and the Rolls Royce armoured car will be made more generic so as to be usable for many games), and one is destined for a full conversion (the second Crossley is on its way to becoming a fuel bowser... I'll probably get around to it when I eventually obtain a pumpjack or build an airfield).
(http://i.imgur.com/ofGbhS5.jpg)
The Model T was slightly changed afterwards as well, lowering the roof a tad and adding plastic to provide a real windshield.
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Good grief Matt,
That Whippet is long way from home.I knew the auto car did well in your neck of the woods (obvious when you think about it.),Didn't know that many whippets had made their way to the colonies.
I do like the tractor. Quite fancy doing another one.Probably a 3 ton civilian one as the 15ton does both. The 5 not so much.(mind you mines heading for my air field.
Having been reminded what your collection comprises of . I think the racer will fit in nicely (though the orangutan is proving troublesome ;))
When it comes to die casts, I use a similar principle figure height first and no identical cars in a different scale.Other than that 'Ooooh Shiny I wann iiit!' Is my buying strategy
You've reminded me ,we'll have to give Vodkafan a prod. As I sent him some different wheel styles to play with,an age ago.
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Fram, what figures are you using? Copplestone and the new Pulp Alley figures are quite large, and the Pulp Alley figures come with a high slotta base.
My concern for sizing is different. I look at the figures and the seats in the car and consider whether the seats look like they would be a tight fit for the figures. I have some 1:50 scale diecast which look like a tight fit for the bulk of the figures. But 1:43 scale looks about right to me. That's lucky, since there are so many models in 1:43 scale.
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Fram, what figures are you using? Copplestone and the new Pulp Alley figures are quite large, and the Pulp Alley figures come with a high slotta base.
My concern for sizing is different. I look at the figures and the seats in the car and consider whether the seats look like they would be a tight fit for the figures. I have some 1:50 scale diecast which look like a tight fit for the bulk of the figures. But 1:43 scale looks about right to me. That's lucky, since there are so many models in 1:43 scale.
Mostly Copplestone, but also a wide variety of other figures including some 1/48th figures.
Bulk in seats is important to me as well, but I figure they would fit if it were a bit of a squeeze. Not everything will be perfect since Wargames minis are not truly proportional to humans, so it's a matter of trying to get the best fit you can. For me, exterior markers (figures standing next to car hoods, roofs, doors, or tires, as well as the overall size of the car relative to the figure AND to buildings, which are often shrunken out of necessity) are much more visible at a glance than how well the figure would theoretically fit inside the car.
Still, I agree that if the car is so small it appears that the figure obviously could not fit inside at a glance, this is also a killer. This is why I cannot use 1:72 aircraft or unmodified Lledo cars, because it is immediately obvious that my figures would not possibly fit inside (whereas 1:64 aircraft just manages to look credible enough, especially compared to buildings and cars as well - the need to balance everything against each other makes it even harder!).
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Good grief Matt,
That Whippet is long way from home.I knew the auto car did well in your neck of the woods (obvious when you think about it.),Didn't know that many whippets had made their way to the colonies.
I do like the tractor. Quite fancy doing another one.Probably a 3 ton civilian one as the 15ton does both. The 5 not so much.(mind you mines heading for my air field.
Having been reminded what your collection comprises of . I think the racer will fit in nicely (though the orangutan is proving troublesome ;))
When it comes to die casts, I use a similar principle figure height first and no identical cars in a different scale.Other than that 'Ooooh Shiny I wann iiit!' Is my buying strategy
You've reminded me ,we'll have to give Vodkafan a prod. As I sent him some different wheel styles to play with,an age ago.
Well, my collection was built up over more than a year and I ended up selling off half the original fleet I'd bought as I tried to simply ignore the issues with 1:43/1:48 cars, but eventually I found a few cars which were scaled much better and as a result couldn't tolerate the ones which remained seemingly oversized anymore. So I ended up seeking out enough replacements to rebuild the collection.
I actually had THREE De Agostini Ford Model A Gaz cars at one point, as it's an absolutely WONDERFUL model, but it's simply too enormous compared to my other cars and my figures. I know some interwar cars could be comically large (and I have one or two of those still), but the hood (or bonnet) if you prefer being at nose height really drove me up the wall. Even huge cars of the 30's were seldom that massive.
For example, here's a Deusenberg, which was QUITE a massive car, even by 30's standards. While the man appears small, the bonnet is still clearly at chest or waist height and the roof would only be about head height:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ex9u2UFKLo4/VOx4Q2LwV3I/AAAAAAAAIpQ/q2T2IeY4NOk/s1600/garywithduesenberg.jpg)
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Actually your posting reminds me.... what happened with the new motorcycle models (which, bizarrely, work better as 1:48th!). You mentioned there'd be some forthcoming but did they end up going to the moldmakers? Almost the only commonly available is the Tamiya German military model (can't recall if it's the Zundapp or BMW).
A couple of British bikes would be excellent to have as options.
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If you reminded when you car is ready I'll pop you some of the unreleased British bikes(I think ,I made Nortons. Plus a couple of side cars.I've had a sleep since then .So I'll have to check. ) in the same box,and an egg. ::)
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Now you're going to tell us you've made a Fabergé egg out of cereal packet? lol ;)
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Oooo, idea ;D ;D
No no no no must stay on target.
Before I get totally side-tracked . I've got to get my version of this,plus orangutan.plus Fram's sketch. Ready for casting before Partizan.
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OMG! sweeeeeeeet!
I need to get you those drawings of additional drivers...
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To get back on topic (my fault)
Here's a couple of vehicles of my own. Also one of my scratch builds ,which cost literally nothing to build.
Mark.
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Here's a few images of Pulp worthy vehicles . Some of which will have commercial models,and others that would be very simple conversions or scratch builds.
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Hmm, the armoured van looks interesting.I've been wondering about a heist as a scenario.
I really like the model motorcycles though. Is it possible to swap the riders as I don't need a nun on a motorbike, despite knowing one who would probably ride one?
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My Mad Maximillian 1934 cars are here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=108560.0;topicseen
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Mark, did you make those motorcycles out of cereal card? .. They look very good.
Cheers
Matt
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CB, Thanks for the vote of confidence lol They're the white metal Nortons(16 H rings a bell) You can't really see them for the riders.(which aren't the only riders just needed to release two and these were literally the first out of the box . There's more)
The red one has slightly chunky front forks because it refused to reliably cast in a production mould.( the white one no problem ::) )and its used as a dollie for other variants .
The only motorcycles I've done in card were the Akira bikes.
Just for the record I don't just play with cardboard. But ..... Having said that .Andy its possible to interpret everyone of those vehicles in card. ;)
WP.
For me personally the whole issue of trying to scale vehicles for the pre WW2 decades.Is the modern subconscious sense of scale,and its cultural variations.
You already have a pre conceived notion of the size of cars,lorries,and busses. Picked up from the environment you live in. Then that template of experiences is applied to make sense of. What you see..
The problem is that when you apply it different period history It's not always a comfortable fit.Simply because it's not the template of experience used by the people at the time.
It's a conflict I come across all the time when I work on Reconstructions .(Roman roofing is a constant bug bear.getting across just how chunky it is in comparison to the modern roofs people are familiar with.)
You have an idea of scale and proportion, car ,lorry, bus, etc.
Then you look at period when that distinction hasn't evolved yet.and you chuck in scale variations,and gamers then it's really a mine field.
So for my toys I stick with that works for me.
Just to illustrate how random this period is ,ones a lorry ,and the other a saloon chassis.
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I bought the Nun on the MC, will there be a military version (and a sidecar)?
If you reminded when you car is ready I'll pop you some of the unreleased British bikes(I think ,I made Nortons. Plus a couple of side cars.I've had a sleep since then .So I'll have to check. ) in the same box,and an egg. ::)
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Just for the record I don't just play with cardboard. But ..... Having said that .Andy its possible to interpret everyone of those vehicles in card. ;)
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You're giving me ideas now...
Those two minibuses (?) look grand, but I'm not sure I'd want to ride in them especially in bad weather.
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A couple of pretty cool pulp cars in here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipMV6vMvtlo
Also I had to laugh when they just casually pass by the Benz Patent-Motorwagen with absolute briefest possible of mentions... "oh and here's the first car ever... moving on to the GOOD STUFF..." (10:05 - blink and you'll miss it).
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You've reminded me ,we'll have to give Vodkafan a prod. As I sent him some different wheel styles to play with,an age ago.
I am suitably stung. I completely forgot you asked me to do something else as well, well before Christmas...
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Here's a 1/48 scale Tamiya model I put together for our Pulp Alley games. I 3d printed some slightly larger wheels to replace the ones it came with...
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Cars%20and%20Trucks/20180531_184906_zpsxtnjmctx.jpg)
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The Traction Avant is a great car to use for 28mm, because it was such a low slung car for it's time, it looks "right" with a large variety of figure sizes.
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A photo of a new car and truck (1/48 scale) I put together for our Pulp Alley games...
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Cars%20and%20Trucks/20180605_112515%20copy_zpsrnnwzfks.jpg)
This is the second time I've used these kits and I like how well they scale next to 28mm minis. However, they are really low quality and I would not recommend them unless you have at least 3d6 in Cunning or Finesse. ;)
HAVE FUN
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What kits are they? Might still be worthwhile for some if they're cheapo.
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More crazy pulp vehicles here: https://imgur.com/gallery/z7cNXb9
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Here's a 1/48 scale Tamiya model I put together for our Pulp Alley games. I 3d printed some slightly larger wheels to replace the ones it came with...
(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o665/pulpalley/Vehicles/Cars%20and%20Trucks/20180531_184906_zpsxtnjmctx.jpg)
Good looking vehicles, but where are the lamp-posts from?
Also that building with the fancy doorway?
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Beige building looks to be the Dust Tactics Warzone Tenement (Which I cannot find anywhere atm).
Green building looks to be from the Old Glory Chicago Wars range.
I would like to see D Phipps post some in depth shots of his terrain with links to where he got/made it etc. ;)
If he hasn't done so already.
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Dave has a terrain-building thread which is quite long... just check his profile for threads started and you should be able to dig it up! (I'd look myself, but I'm phone-posting at the moment).
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Good looking vehicles, but where are the lamp-posts from?
Also that building with the fancy doorway?
THANKS! Glad you like them.
The streetlights are simply O Scale bits re-purposed for our Pulp Alley games.
The fancy building is for Dust Tactics. I got several sets at a good discount when they were having a big sale. But I had to design the 3d print the windows and doors myself.
Our massive Pulp Alley thread pops up occasionally when we have something new to add, which reminds me --- http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=15132.0