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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: Lowtardog on March 29, 2009, 02:29:29 PM
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Dont know if anyone else noticed these or got some photos but there were some very nice WIP Scots for WW1 from Musketeer at Salute
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Dont know if anyone else noticed these or got some photos but there were some very nice WIP Scots for WW1 from Musketeer at Salute
Thanks Karl, if you plug Bill maybe he will shows us folks here a photo or two.
Helen
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Sorry everyone but Bill gave them straight away to the guys from Griffin moulds that were at Salute. Give it a week or two and you should see some soon.
Paul
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I love Musketeer Miniatures figures, they are probably the nicest Great War figures I have. But why are they so wee? I'm the chap that usually doesn't care about that kind of thing, but even I have my limits. They look like midgets next to the rest of my collection, and so I'm very sorry to say that the small sample I have shall probably be the last I purchase.
I'm very sad about this but what can I do? I don't want to start again from scratch at this stage, it just isn't an option. Even if I could do that they don't do any Germans.
:'(
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Sorry everyone but Bill gave them straight away to the guys from Griffin moulds that were at Salute. Give it a week or two and you should see some soon.
Paul
Thanks Paul,
I'll need to update the list of new products for WW1.
Chow,
Helen
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I love Musketeer Miniatures figures, they are probably the nicest Great War figures I have. But why are they so wee? I'm the chap that usually doesn't care about that kind of thing, but even I have my limits. They look like midgets next to the rest of my collection, and so I'm very sorry to say that the small sample I have shall probably be the last I purchase.
I'm very sad about this but what can I do? I don't want to start again from scratch at this stage, it just isn't an option. Even if I could do that they don't do any Germans.
:'(
Hi Dylan,
Can you please enlighten us about the size. When you say wee.... I believe that there will be Germans coming from Bill's care of Paul at some date in the future unless I'm mistaken otherwise.
Helen
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Just that they are noticeably smaller than Brigade, Renegade and Great War Miniatures. Smaller enough for even someone as lax as me on this kind of thing to think twice about using them. I'll try and get some comparison shots done in the week if I get time so you can see what I mean.
Gorgeous sculpting, though, can't emphasize that enough. Such a pity they don't match with what I already have in my collection.
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Just that they are noticeably smaller than Brigade, Renegade and Great War Miniatures. Smaller enough for even someone as lax as me on this kind of thing to think twice about using them. I'll try and get some comparison shots done in the week if I get time so you can see what I mean.
Gorgeous sculpting, though, can't emphasize that enough. Such a pity they don't match with what I already have in my collection.
Thanks Dylan, that would be great.
Helen
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Just that they are noticeably smaller than Brigade, Renegade and Great War Miniatures. Smaller enough for even someone as lax as me on this kind of thing to think twice about using them. I'll try and get some comparison shots done in the week if I get time so you can see what I mean.
Gorgeous sculpting, though, can't emphasize that enough. Such a pity they don't match with what I already have in my collection.
Dear Plynkes,
Thanks for the future comparison shots and for the rest, to each his own ! ;)
I'm glad to know someone keep on producing true 28 mm (25 mm :-*) as "old" Foundry, RAFM, Dixon, Perry, etc.
You don't know how feel a bit disappointed when I recieved a big order from Brigade and saw the mini were so "huge" !
Now, I'm always a bit scared to order from new companies all because of the scale creep ! What a stressing hobby, isn't it ?
meow,
Matt
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As Plynkes already said the Musketeer figures are gorgeous sculpts and they do fit in with several other ranges.
Anglian, for example if you want to do ECW3, Bolt Action for partizans ( more Irish!) and even Woodbine (Gripping Beast).
Often forgotten, but the old Battle Honours WWI ranges are still very good,and again fit very well with Musketeer. Don't know if they are still available in Europe though. The guns are a bit smaller but nothing too noticable.
Really like Great War Miniatures too, but prefer to keep them in separate units. Not too keen on Renegade anymore after a few really bad castings.
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Matt
I would be up for some trades if your not going to use the bigger stuff
Svennn
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Links to some WIP shots on the Musketeer forum:
Scots:
http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=439
plus a BEF Vickers team and- just for Plynkes - some German WIPs :
http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=441
;)
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Looking good so far but the heads are a little small ;D
...these are at a very early stage but German dolls…. Yes!!!!! :)
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Hi Plynkes
Paul sculpts his figures to match in with 1/56th scale vehicles and weapons that are available, and as with the stuff he did for BAM and Anglian they match in very will at this size.
He also sculpts, as I do and all the other sculptors out there, to what he thinks looks right to his eye. As we all have a different view of this all figure will have differences and that is unlikely ever to change I'm afraid. Ours are about 27-28mm to the eye which is about right as we see it. GWM are about 28mm. Not sure about Renegade but they seem to be the odd ones out as they look about 30mm IIRC which is why there is such a noticeable difference.
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Matt
I would be up for some trades if your not going to use the bigger stuff
Svennn
Thanks for the kind offer, Svennn, but "no way, Mate" ! ;)
I wanted them for so long, that I can't resign myself to drop them by (in fact, I can't stand to drop any figure as a true addict lol)
And at least, even bigger, this lot is "consistent" ; I hope to show it soon :D
meow,
Matt
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I took some pics of one of our BEF figures next to one of my GWM Germans to give an idea of size difference, but there isn't much of one ;)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/spiraluk/GWMmm.gif)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/spiraluk/GWMmm2.gif)
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looks pretty good to me :)
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Here's the ones I've done, as promised. Sorry for the slight delay...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/MUSKETEERGREATWAR1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/MUSKETEERGREATWAR3.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/MUSKETEERGREATWAR2.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/MUSKETEERRENEGADE1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/Size%20Comp/MUSKETEERWOODBINE1.jpg)
Some of them jar a little for me (though on reflection a couple of those shots have the Musketeer chaps leaning forward, which emphasizes the differences a little unfairly), but on the whole I think I'm warming to the little fellas. In my hands they seemed so teeny-tiny, but I think I can probably make use of them after all. I reckon they'll go with most of my GWM early Tommies, especially if I keep them in separate units. It would be a pity not to use such lovely figures.
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For those who want Highlanders, but find the Musketeer Minis a little to small, you should take a look at this;
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/402192/ 8)
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Plynkes: I guess you can manage to mix all the figures by using a thicker base for the musketeer ones (sometimes I use an extra coin between the mini and the actual base to mix older foundry minis with the rest of the collection).
But I must also admit that those renegade chaps are rather bulky (I have a couple of ww1 french and they really stand out next to the foundry and GWM ones)
BTW: those musketeer minis are really well done! :)
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It appears that possibly the GWM have been coming down in size (look at the photo where they are real close to the Musketeer mini).
I am not saying for sure but it can happen. GWM are closer to RN in size - at least the initial releases. I have not done a test recently.
Molding techniques also can vary sizes by varying the shrinkage rate. Silicon molds rarely cause shrinkage with masters if used correctly. Rubber molds will have varying degrees of success with low to moderate shrinkage depending upon the skills of the mold maker.
Renegade supposedly used some technique similar to what Foundry uses to make "thicker" figures.
When I originally started my range, I went for a size in between Foundry and Renegade so they would be usable with more brands than less.
In the end I find with most of my customers that it is a personal choice what fits or doesn't. Height differences can be hidden/reduced with base mounting and also by keeping certain brands together in separate units.