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Title: Romano Brits ready for action More Irish added 15/2/18.
Post by: THE CID on October 04, 2017, 02:29:30 PM
Inspired by the good Captains twilight of Britain, I got round to finishing these beautiful Footsore Arthurians. They were a pleasure to paint, hope you like.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: arget8 on October 04, 2017, 02:59:24 PM
VERY nice! You've given me a few ideas for my own Romano-British! I'm definitely stealing the guy in the stripes!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Dags on October 04, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Nice work 8)

I'd be tempted to limit the use of blue in future though - it was very difficult to make an effective dye and therefore extremely expensive and rare.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: aircav on October 04, 2017, 05:45:04 PM
Very nice  8) 8)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Duncan McDane on October 04, 2017, 07:01:43 PM
I'd be tempted to limit the use of blue in future though - it was very difficult to make an effective dye and therefore extremely expensive and rare.

Aren't you confused with purple? Woad ( main western source for making blue ) was quite comman in Roman and post-Roman times... Or am I mistaken?

Oh, and of course, pretty nice Footsore Arthurians, effective looking force  :)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Dags on October 04, 2017, 07:35:21 PM
Nope, Bill Thornhill gave a me polite rollicking for doing it myself on ones I was painting for him

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A variety of plants have provided indigo throughout history, but most natural indigo was obtained from those in the genus Indigofera, which are native to the tropics. The primary commercial indigo species in Asia was true indigo (Indigofera tinctoria, also known as I. sumatrana). A common alternative used in the relatively colder subtropical locations such as Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan is Strobilanthes cusia. Dyer's knotweed (Polygonum tinctorum) was the most important blue dye in East Asia until the arrival of the Indigofera species from the south, which yield more dye. In Central and South America, the species grown is I. suffruticosa (añil). In Europe woad containing the same dye was used for blue-dying. Several plants contain indigo, but low concentrations make them difficult to work with and the color is then more easily tainted by other dye substances, typically leading to a greenish tinge.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: THE CID on October 04, 2017, 07:47:30 PM
Nope, Bill Thornhill gave a me polite rollicking for doing it myself on ones I was painting for him

Edit:

. Merlin had magic blue dye though, lol.
Thanks for all the nice comments much appreciated. I will go easy on the blue in my next batch  ;)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: DintheDin on October 04, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
Wow! You did an EXCELLENT job on face expressions and the shields! (and the dicing...) Congrats!
These sculpts are offered for masterwork!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: THE CID on October 04, 2017, 07:49:19 PM
Another close up.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Dr DeAth on October 04, 2017, 08:20:56 PM
very nice indeed
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Little Odo on October 04, 2017, 08:25:42 PM
Great looking warband. Certainly a bunch of upper-crust warriors as the richness of the colours used in their clothing attests.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Duncan McDane on October 04, 2017, 10:25:13 PM
Nope, Bill Thornhill gave a me polite rollicking for doing it myself on ones I was painting for him


Thanks, I'm about to paint some DA-Footsores myself so the blues I'll use will be more bluish-grey than indigo.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: nic-e on October 04, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
. Merlin had magic blue dye though, lol.
Thanks for all the nice comments much appreciated. I will go easy on the blue in my next batch  ;)

I think they look wonderful. The rich colours might not be historically accurate but they would contrast with the earthier tones of their enemies on the table, and they hint at the former glory of rome that these romano British warriors might be trying to cling on too.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Phil Robinson on October 04, 2017, 10:58:44 PM
A fine bunch indeed, like the check trousers.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Duke Donald on October 04, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Aren't you confused with purple? Woad ( main western source for making blue ) was quite comman in Roman and post-Roman times... Or am I mistaken?
Oh, and of course, pretty nice Footsore Arthurians, effective looking force  :)

Polite rollicking or not, Duncan McDane is right, blue dye extracted from woad (Isatis tinctoria) was one of the three common and most affordable dyes used in Europe from the Neolithic era up to the 16th century.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on October 05, 2017, 07:06:51 AM
Those are just great. Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Ragnar on October 05, 2017, 07:18:20 AM
Nice victims Britons! 

On the subject of blues, I'd like to see the discussion taken up in a separate thread as it is of interest to me, having used blue freely in my early medieval army.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: tancrede on October 05, 2017, 07:41:27 AM
I love those minis, and your paintjob does them great justice.  :-*
Do you have more of them to come ?
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Captain Blood on October 05, 2017, 07:47:11 AM
Great work CID  8)
They are a joy to paint, aren't they?

As far as the blue goes, personally, I'm of the 'who gives a toss as long as they look nice?' persuasion, but I appreciate some people are more historically discerning  ;)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: THE CID on October 05, 2017, 12:07:13 PM
Great work CID  8)
They are a joy to paint, aren't they?

As far as the blue goes, personally, I'm of the 'who gives a toss as long as they look nice?' persuasion, but I appreciate some people are more historically discerning  ;)
. Thanks, I'm of the same opinion as long as you don't go too overboard and paint designer labels on them lol.
Going to start my second batch tomorrow, they are a joy to paint.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Phil Robinson on October 05, 2017, 09:55:51 PM
Dull and dingy this Dark Age clothing, isn’t it.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dark+ages+dye&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiih5umrtrWAhVHfiYKHd4YCe8Q_AUIESgB&biw=1024&bih=666#imgdii=RdTa8oarvuKmbM:&imgrc=50PSy_kFYhCvnM:
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Ragnar on October 06, 2017, 02:36:00 AM
I snaffled this from facebook; reenactment group Thegns Of Mercia recently showed a picture of freshly dyed linen.

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/woad/stories-keyword/stories-public?esd=eyJlc2lkIjoiUzpfSTE5MTA0NDM4NDM0MjY3MDoxMzkwMzQ1MTExMDc5MjUyIiwicHNpZCI6eyIxOTEwNDQzODQzNDI2NzA6MTM5MDM0NTExMTA3OTI1MiI6IlV6cGZTVEU1TVRBME5ETTRORE0wTWpZM01Eb3hNemt3TXpRMU1URXhNRGM1TWpVeSJ9LCJjcmN0IjoidGV4dCIsImNzaWQiOiJmZmEzMzQxODk4NjhkOWY5OWE3OTAzYjVmZDY4MTk2NCJ9
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: THE CID on October 06, 2017, 08:19:09 AM
I snaffled this from facebook; reenactment group Thegns Of Mercia recently showed a picture of freshly dyed linen.

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/woad/stories-keyword/stories-public?esd=eyJlc2lkIjoiUzpfSTE5MTA0NDM4NDM0MjY3MDoxMzkwMzQ1MTExMDc5MjUyIiwicHNpZCI6eyIxOTEwNDQzODQzNDI2NzA6MTM5MDM0NTExMTA3OTI1MiI6IlV6cGZTVEU1TVRBME5ETTRORE0wTWpZM01Eb3hNemt3TXpRMU1URXhNRGM1TWpVeSJ9LCJjcmN0IjoidGV4dCIsImNzaWQiOiJmZmEzMzQxODk4NjhkOWY5OWE3OTAzYjVmZDY4MTk2NCJ9
  Vindicated, lol
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Psychlic Bob on October 06, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
The issue with clothing colours is that they will fade rapidly as natural mordants don't "set" permanently - I paint my lower class warriors with very faded shades and my nobles with brighter
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: TWD on October 06, 2017, 12:02:30 PM
Lovely job on those.
And as for the colours, they're your toys, paint 'em how you like.
If I had your skill and patience I'd love to get mine looking that vibrant.

I'm working on a WAB army of the same models http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102620.0 and they are great models to paint.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Duncan McDane on October 06, 2017, 12:42:38 PM
The issue with clothing colours is that they will fade rapidly as natural mordants don't "set" permanently - I paint my lower class warriors with very faded shades and my nobles with brighter

That' s indeed the overall consensus, the higher status the warrior had, the better quality his clothing and gear. In Warhammer Ancient Battles - Shieldwall are some thougts about that.
I think the main confusion over here is that the colour Indigo ( as posted in the link by Dags ) isn't exactely the same as Blue.
But hey, as long as were not talking about purple, anything goes  lol.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: gostgost on October 06, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
I always think the academics, who say colour would wash out quickly, don't do their own laundry.
Fruit juice stains, for one are a sod to get out!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: Ragnar on October 06, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
Ah what the hell, one more parting shot.  Again from the Thegns and snaffled from facebook.  (although I can't link a specific post).  The description reads: "Mid 6th century Anglian freo (lady) or sithwif (princess) impression. The elaborate peplos dress (made this summer by members Æd and Lindsey) is of extremely fine diamond-twill natural wool dyed with real woad (some of which home-grown).
The fine, 4-colour tablet-woven detailing is in the style of the 6th century Snartemo V weave. The under-dress is of natural linen in plain/tabby weave, with trim at the neck of the same material dyed with woad and then overdyed with weld to achieve a subtle turquoise. The overdress is pinned together at the shoulders by a pair of silvered small-long brooches with abundant swags of beads between, and, finally, a square-headed brooch centrally, which can be used to pin a cloak or shawl. "
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action.
Post by: archiduque on October 07, 2017, 12:39:11 PM
Excellent work! ;)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: THE CID on October 18, 2017, 02:50:05 PM
A few more Footsore beauties including Guinevere. I painted her as described in Cornwalls Arthur trilogy, flowing red hair.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: Phil Robinson on October 18, 2017, 04:19:50 PM
Super stuff, like your fish scale decoration on the draco in particular.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: Ragnar on October 18, 2017, 09:09:33 PM
Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: Little Odo on October 20, 2017, 08:08:56 PM
Very nicely painted  :-*
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: aircav on October 21, 2017, 08:35:12 AM
Lovely work  8) 8)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. More added 18/10/17.
Post by: THE CID on October 23, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Thanks chaps, next some enemies.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: THE CID on October 24, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
The enemy.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: Hu Rhu on October 24, 2017, 03:50:11 PM
Wonderful stuff.  Love the tattoos.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: Phil Robinson on October 24, 2017, 04:33:24 PM
You would not wish to meet them in the dark, or otherwise.

Fine looking tattoo work.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: gostgost on October 24, 2017, 08:37:52 PM
Good work
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: DintheDin on October 24, 2017, 08:43:02 PM
Very original and characterful!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: aircav on October 24, 2017, 08:53:12 PM
Great stuff  8)
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. PICTS added 24/10/17
Post by: THE CID on November 02, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
Thanks again guys, next up some more Picts and the start of my Arthurian cavalry.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Mounted Athurians added 5/11/17
Post by: THE CID on November 05, 2017, 09:35:38 AM
My first two mounted Arthurians.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Mounted Athurians added 5/11/17
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 05, 2017, 09:50:14 AM
Well turned out troops there, so stealing the checks for my next batch of figures.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Mounted Athurians added 5/11/17
Post by: killshot on November 13, 2017, 02:24:09 AM
Looking great! :-*
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Mounted Athurians added 5/11/17
Post by: DintheDin on November 13, 2017, 08:10:12 AM
Excellent paintjob, the shields are fantastic! Congrats!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Irish etc added 21/11/17
Post by: THE CID on November 21, 2017, 09:55:26 AM
A few Irish and Merlin.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Irish etc added 21/11/17
Post by: THE CID on November 21, 2017, 09:57:23 AM
More shots.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Irish etc added 21/11/17
Post by: Phil Robinson on November 21, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
Fine work, I like your colour palette for the fianna.

Have you seen the new pack with swords, spears etc. they are very nice some of Bills best IMHO
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Irish etc added 21/11/17
Post by: Utgaard on November 21, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Great paintjob!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Arthur and Picts added.
Post by: THE CID on January 05, 2018, 08:39:59 PM
Arthur and Picts.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Arthur and Picts added.
Post by: THE CID on January 05, 2018, 08:41:49 PM
More views.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Arthur and Picts added.
Post by: Phil Robinson on January 06, 2018, 10:06:05 AM
Really nice those.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Arthur and Picts added.
Post by: Richard in Sachsen on January 18, 2018, 06:00:50 AM
Those are simply superb. Extremely nice detail, especially on tattoos and garments.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action. Arthur and Picts added.
Post by: THE CID on January 18, 2018, 10:23:17 AM
I love that bear on Arthur's shield.
That's such a simple idea of identifying him as Arthur and such a good one.
I think I'm going to get myself a suitable Arthur figure and do the same.

Lovely models.
I think your metals lack a bit of depth though.
Treat metallic colours like any colour - they need a base shade and a highlight shade. Instead of going with the silver straight on the undercoat and leaving it at that, try using a 'natural steel' colour first and then using the silver to highlight.

You've got me in the mood for some Arthurian games though.
Thanks for the input, but I think it's my photos that don't show the detail. I do base coat with steel plate, just doesn't show on photos.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action King Brian Boru added 26/01/18.
Post by: THE CID on January 26, 2018, 03:47:16 PM
Boru and Heavy.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action King Brian Boru added 26/01/18.
Post by: ErikB on January 26, 2018, 05:32:09 PM
I love those Footsore minis!

Great job painting them up!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action King Brian Boru added 26/01/18.
Post by: DintheDin on January 26, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
Excellent vignette! Bravo!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action King Brian Boru added 26/01/18.
Post by: moiterei_1984 on January 27, 2018, 07:20:08 AM
Very well done!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action King Brian Boru added 26/01/18.
Post by: juergen c. olk on January 27, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
nice collection
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action More Irish added 15/2/18.
Post by: THE CID on February 15, 2018, 03:38:16 PM
More Irish added.
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action More Irish added 15/2/18.
Post by: arget8 on February 16, 2018, 08:26:14 PM
Beautiful painting!
Title: Re: Romano Brits ready for action More Irish added 15/2/18.
Post by: DintheDin on February 17, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
Especially the middle pic is awesome  :o
Great paintjob!