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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: MattW on October 28, 2017, 12:05:54 PM
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Noticed the sculptor posted this on the Oathmark page, though there’s been no official word either way.
These will be some very tasty elves.
(https://i.imgur.com/8nKoNLV.jpg)
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Ooh, I do like that. Looks just about perfect.
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Oh I like those,never use them but that's never stopped me before lol
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Never really done elves but these might sway me
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I like it apart from the sword which looks too big
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Not sure of the oval plate, but the rest is certainly promising. Wonder how uniform they'll be in terms of shields and helmets...
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Would seem to be about as close a rip off of the GW style as you can get. I think it is pretty poor and rather than trying to do something new it is just another artless rehash of what is already available.
Too bulky, lacks finesse and elegance, sword is too big and a really dreadful attempt at "chainmail". Looks like he has wrapped himself in an offcut of curtain material:
https://www.houzz.com/product/172568-wool-felt-perforated-panel-set-modern-curtains (https://www.houzz.com/product/172568-wool-felt-perforated-panel-set-modern-curtains)
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The breastplate does seem a bit askew but as I've been playing a lot of skyrim and have square eyes that may just be me. He's going to have to switch that shield onto his back in a hurry if that is a hand and a half sword though.
There's a nice hint of the old Ral Partha elves there. So I'll say yes, I like it.
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Hmm. Not really convinced by this, I'm afraid.
The oval breastplate is a bit odd, and that sword is too broad (and probably also too big), I'd say. The helmet and shield are too medieval (well, pointy, anyway) for how I imagine elves. Also the whole figure is somehow flared rather than upright, if that makes sense: just too bulky for my taste.
The old Ral Partha elves have always been my favourites, though they're very small by today's standards, but there's an elegance about them that I'm not really getting here.
But then again this is just one figure, and if this is going to be part of a plastic set then who knows what else might be included. And there's nothing wrong with it, just doesn't quite fit my imaginings...
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Paint does help.
(https://i.imgur.com/zeeuxRA.jpg)
I don't hate them but I'm not wowed.
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I don't mind it. Quite old school looking. Not as good as the Dwarves or the Goblins.
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Think it looks pretty good, albeit the sword and shield look too "human" for me.
This range is looking good.
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The elves also look like they may fit ok with the old Grenadier fantasy warriors High elves.
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That's not a bad Elf, although I agree the sword is a bit hefty. That Goblin though is really good. I would like to see more!! The Dwarves are good too but its the Goblinses that we wants...yes precious 'nasty' goblinses.
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Yes, certainly better when painted - and there's more detail (e.g. on the scabbard, and the edges of the mail skirts) that helps too. But still not quite there...
The goblin on the other hand is excellent (and definitely not green).
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I don't hate it, but it doesn't wow me. I'm fine with the sword as it's a simple matter of keeping a miniature in one piece vs. breaking every single weapon in your army if it encounters a stiff breeze.
The dwarfs and greenskins are looking much better though.
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That goblin's terrific - the best orcish miniature I've seen in ages!
I don't mind the elf. I could see some potential use as Melniboneans. There's a touch of the Aly Morrisons about the face, which I like.
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The paint certainly helps. I like what I see - don't even mind the hole-rather-than-link chainmail when painted up. Doesn't quite match the character the Dwarves have, but that's a high bar. Certainly among my favourite designs for Elves, traditional though it may be. And a set of Wood Elves of similar quality will most certainly be welcome.
Is the goblin a metal one like the Dwarf characters? That one is terrific.
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there is definitely a lot of Gary Chalkness in those :-*
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I don't like the Elf, too old school for me. Feet are huge, sword is way oversized and head is also on the big side. All that works well on the Dwarves and the Goblins, but it doesn't work for me on Eves. And there is vast room for improvement in all those chainmails, just compare them to this one:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0118/3042/products/8504_1024x1024.jpg?v=1334320573)
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I don't hate them but I'm not wowed.
Same. The criticisms are legitimate but I still like the style.
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I quite like him he has a bit of 80s Citadel elf about him. I'd have to see what other options there were in a box set but they certainly look more my cup of tea than modern GW or Mantic's elves.
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Turns out this fella is a mock-up, not a WIP of one of the actual plastics, and won’t be released (unless they offer him in the nickstarter, I guess).
I can’t agree with RobH’s criticism that says it’s too much like GW elves- they look very different, IMO. Still, to each their own and all. I can certainly see these being popular with the kings of war crowd.
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I like it. Not a high and mighty elf look but a practical one.
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I do like the goblin; the Otherworld goblins are great for D&D but this chap - to me - has echoes of the old minifigs goblins. For a goblin army this style looks streets ahead of say the GW LOTR goblins.
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I like the elf. Not a fan of elves, but this one I like. To me he looks very LotR elfy.
I particularly like the fact that he doesn't have a silly shaped shield....by biggest problem with fantasy figures
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It's insanely early to say this but I can't help but wonder what the humans would be like.
I'm presuming not the full plate look and a lot depends if they are the Edain as first encountered by the elves, the edain as allies/retainers of the elves or a distinctly different non FA look altogether. The Arnor/Arthedain/Rhudaur era could be fun and applicable elsewhere.
That presumes the not-Tolkien vibe of course. I'm not sure if that's planned or a matter of perception.
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I am glad everything looks so delightfully old school! I love that! I am going to agree with some here, the Elf doesn't wow me either, but then again I can hardly recall an elf miniature that has wowed me. They are a difficult race to get right. Only some of the GW Wood Elf metals were nice, other than that...
The Dwarf and Goblin on the other hand, especially the Dwarfs. Those are magnificent!!
I would like to see how a unit of these Elves looks.
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I really like this. I hate to say it, but this may actually convince me to look at starting an elf army of some kind. Much better than the dwarfs, which are no different to anything else on the market.
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The elf doesn't really look elfish to me. Looks like a Saxon with a f*cking big feather in his helmet. Very bland.
The goblin looks quite decent.
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Never liked the elves that much so don’t feel excited about this one neither. Ther goblin looks great though!
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The way my mind works I'm now contemplating what id need to put together a few War of the ring type warbands with these figures maybe with the old Harlequin range for characters.
Fly you fools.
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This Elf reminds me of the black and white drawings in the Tolkien Bestiary I bought in the late 1980s. They had decorated oval breastplates on mail with Saxon/Norman style helms as I recall. I'd prefer a slightly more 'Elvish' helmet myself, but the painted model looks good. I'll be interested to see what the final models look like. I agree that the Orc/Goblin is particularly good!
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Recent copies of miniature wargames had a series of articles by a bloke who'd used Normans to make silmarilion era elf armies. They looked pretty decent.
A different look.
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One thing I like a lot about these is that they don't seem to be influenced at all by the Peter Jackson films. I didn't particularly like the films (curate's eggs in my opinion), but that's by the by: what I find dreary are "not-LotR" miniatures that take their cue from the films rather than the books - elves with curved swords and tight braids; "Men of the West" in plate armour; orcs that are as tall as Men; and - especially - trolls with oddly spaced eyes and little nose to speak of.
The orc here nods to Pauline Baynes more than Peter Jackson. And that's a very good thing.
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Have to admit I equally like the PJ LOTR aesthetic as much as the more traditional artistic interpretations. Love these goblins, looks like they will mix nicely with the Wargames factory plastic orcs and also the Tom Meier goblins, ( :-* those: reckon they are amongst the best out there). Hopefully these goblins or a future release will allow for building the shorter, more stringy tracker type goblins as per the Alan Lee picture, as I reckon none that I have seen get this look quite right as yet.
Elves, chain OK, breastplate average, helm...would prefer more of a enclosed helm with cheek guards, never really liked helmets that go to brow only. Something like the PJ High Elves without the upside down ice skate as a crest would be preferable I think. Hopefully the sprues have more helmet variations...
Dwarves are cool, hope there are enough non hood heads in the sprues to kit out all the dwarves in helms. I like hoods on dwarves in general, and I guess they are probably inline with how Tolkien described them but overall they look too much like garden gnome hoods for me, something a bit deeper/more voluminous, attached to a mantle or cape would be better I reckon. Wish there was a bit more to the hammer as well, not GW overwrought/oversized, but not a 1 kg lump hammer from Bunnings either.
Metal dwarf heroes have nailed it in my opinion. Love 'em and looking forward to seeing how well they match the old Grenadier dwarves size-wise.
All in all, yay! Looking forward to using some of these in LOTR SBG games and trying out Oathmark itself. :) Good Job!
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I do prefer this elf to the LOTR films look; which is strange as I did like the film look. That could of course be down to the opening spectacle of the first film - I was less impressed by the appearance of the elves at helms deep, in more ways than one.
i still have some minifig high elves somewhere; even traced the banner of Fingolfin from the silmarilion, coloured it with felttip pens and fixed it to a wire pole, which I glued into the hand of an elf with a broken sword......but first I covered it in clear sticky back plastic. It looked ok till then.....
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Well, I love the goblin as everyone here, but I have to admit, I'm also taken by the elf. He has a nice and oldfashioned kitschy appearance that reminds me of old 80s fantasy books.
My favourite elves are still the oldhammer wood elves, but also the Grenadier High and Wood Elves by Mr Copplestone and these do remind me of said High Elves.
They might fit very well into such a tolkienesque world and stylewise seem to work quite well with the dwarf and goblins shown so far.
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For the elves I was hoping for something like this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/30-new-tom-meier-sea-elf
or this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/28-new-tom-meier-elf-wip
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Those Ral Partha elves are nice. Very nice style to them, slight but still very military looking.
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I really like them! :-*
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For the elves I was hoping for something like this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/30-new-tom-meier-sea-elf
or this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/28-new-tom-meier-elf-wip
Well, that's quite a high bar... that second figure is the single most fantastic Elf sculpt I'm aware of.
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I actually quite like the previewed elf.
I can understand some of the criticisms, but I'm happy to keep in mind the reality that this is a concept mini from what will be a plastic box - and therefore there are going to be some limitations and compromises. The end result still looks really good to my mind.
I'm incredibly excited about Oathmark :)
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For the elves I was hoping for something like this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/30-new-tom-meier-sea-elf
or this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/28-new-tom-meier-elf-wip
Absolutely. Make the Northstar one look badly proportioned and crude....even after the skilful professional paintjob.
I don't see why the sculpting skill and design evident in the Goblin could not be carried over to the Dwarf and the woeful Elf.
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Yep that second Tom Meier sculpt has Elves just about right- struggling to lift his heavy axe!! lol
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Crude? Badly proportioned? You should try the old minifig mythical earth range from the 70s. I'd have bitten hands off for these N'star figures back then.
Just a bit of perspective.
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But we are no longer in the 1970s and things have moved on a bit. Apart from the nostalgia, why would you want your figures to look like the crap little lumps from nearly 50 years ago?
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I agree it's not the 70s and I'm don't want the figures from back then. I'd not say these resemble them in quality at all.
Just saying I'd have loved these figures back then and for me that's part of the appeal.
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Personally I think the Oathmark guy looks quite similar to the 80s Tom Meier Elves in style
(http://solegends.com/citc/c037meierelves/c37meierelves-c3p39x-01.jpg)
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For the elves I was hoping for something like this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/30-new-tom-meier-sea-elf
or this:
http://www.ralpartha.com/index.php/upcoming-releases/28-new-tom-meier-elf-wip
Great minis, does anyone know if there's an european seller who stocks Iron Wind Metals?
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Great minis, does anyone know if there's an european seller who stocks Iron Wind Metals?
I think miniature-heroes does? Or at least did at one time.
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While I like the second Tim Mier elf,I don't like the first one. The helm looks weird...
The GW PJ elves are horribly Japanese. Not a look I like.
If I am going to build an elf army (and I hope to) these North Star figures are the ones I want to use...
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I really like it. The proportions are fine when compared to the dwarves tbh, and it seems to be taller than the FGV and Gripping Beast humans, like the noldor are supposed to be.
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This a metal proof of concept, not a 'final' plastic. I expect the final look will be different.
-Will
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This a metal proof of concept, not a 'final' plastic. I expect the final look will be different.
-Will
Not to different I hope this mini has really grown on me.
Thinking about it to if these are released in plastic with separate heads (like North Stars other sets) you could probably kit bash some really interesting Elf cavalry using Conquests plastic Norman cavalry or Fireforges various knights. These elves really are looking more and more promising to me I like the aesthetic they match my idea of an elf.
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This a metal proof of concept, not a 'final' plastic. I expect the final look will be different.
-Will
I like that mail seems to be the choice for armour, with shield/sword combination. The face is off putting and I hope that this is something that will change.
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From the Oathmark Players Page on Facebook official word was:
The plumes will be separate. And smaller. Remember this is a maquette, not a figure that will be on sale.
I guess there will be some more tweaks to follow before final production moulds are made.
Looking good so far though.
I'm really enjoying the non-movie Tolkienesque theme of these figures.
Have you guys seen the really cool new Dwarves from Conqueror Models, sculpted by Colin Patten?
http://conquerormodels.com/product-category/28mm-fantasy/dwarfs/
I have ordered some to go with the Oathmark metal Dwarven command packs.
They are all new sculpts, not Vendel re-released.
It looks like a good time for Middle Earth fans :-)
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Yes, what with Conquerer and Oathmark there is a mountain of new dwarfs in my favourite style (early medieval Tolkienesque) to paint. Happy days.
I just received the Conquerer dwarfs and they are nice clean sculpts which are of course a perfect match for my old Vendel dwarfs.
A question: are the Ral Partha Elves for sale already? Beautiful figures.
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A question: are the Ral Partha Elves for sale already? Beautiful figures.
Yes, they are, question is just where to get them here in europe :?
I contacted Tim from Miniature Heroes but he sadly can't get them.
Have to check if Ral Partha Europe is stocking them.
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The Conqueror Models Dwarfs are very nice miniatures sculpted by the same sculptor of the Vendel Miniatures range. I'm currently painting up a dozen of the miniatures and they really fit well with the Northstar Dwarfs. I have written a thorough review of the miniatures on Wargame News and Terrain, my daily wargame news blog along with scale comparison pictures. If of interest, you can check it here http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2017/10/conqueror-models-dark-age-dwarf.html?m=1
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I hope that other elves on the sprue wil be wearing simply plain mail without those odd oval plackards on the torso. For a while now I’ve been hoping to make a distinctly un-ostentatious looking band of Elves with a migration period aesthetic.
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Here's the Victor Ambrus art that these kinda reminded me of (although the oval breastplates would be better if not left 'plain' on the models). Follow the link and scroll down...Sorry I can't post the pics direct but I have no image hosting ability other than my blog.
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/new-units-3-elves-for-lotm-or-medieval-december-21-2005.148981/page-2
I always wished someone would sculpt some Elves in the style of these Ambrus illustrations...
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Here's the Victor Ambrus art that these kinda reminded me of (although the oval breastplates would be better if not left 'plain' on the models). Follow the link and scroll down...Sorry I can't post the pics direct but I have no image hosting ability other than my blog.
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/new-units-3-elves-for-lotm-or-medieval-december-21-2005.148981/page-2
I always wished someone would sculpt some Elves in the style of these Ambrus illustrations...
Love those Victor Ambrus illustrations, an excellent aesthetic for the elves of Middle Earth!
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Not very interested in elves...until now. This one fits perfectly with my vision of Paul Anderson's The Broken sword elves, so I definitely grab a box when on sale.
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The elf shown does not call to me at all. Too early to say and I'll reserve judgement but that does not inspire. Flat, simple, and the face seems off. A great face on a 80's GW elf, not so great today. IMO.
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I think the elf looks great. He reminds me of the good old days of Citadel. I love the haughty looking face. Exactly how I like my elves.
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My only troubles with this are the already-mentioned slightly too human-ish sword and the breastplate, though the concern with the latter is solely
based on my own inability to do freehand decorations.
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I like the Elf
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I like the elf, he's got a nice old school look that would work well with the old Granadier High Elves.
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Looks pretty good. Like other folks have said, a thinner sword would be good, not sure about the "heater" shield particularly as NS has indicated that Dark Age/Early Medieval is more the vibe they are going for - a tear-dropped shaped kite shield would suit tho.
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Love this elf. Reasons: 1. Unlike GW and LOTR elves, he's not wearing a bulky skirt/robe uniform. Elves tend to live in forests and wilderness areas. Skirts would make it hard to move quickly through woods and brush etc. 2. The sword. Maybe big, but not a curved japanese sword. Why would elves design their weapons differently from other races? Swords through out the world all tended to look alike and be used alike. Until we get to Japan, but again, why would elves use curved swords? No real reason other than to be "different". I'd argue in a fantasy world/milieu humans, if they evolved later than elves as is often the case in fantasy literature, would copy elves and those who came before them. 3. Sense of realism. The armor, sword, shield and helmet just look right. Nothing over the top or outlandish. Maybe for the final product they can make a few changes here and there, but hopefully not too many.
It is a shame Tre Manor of Red Box games focuses on his dwarves and barbarians and not his aelfar line....Those are the best elves out there IMHO.
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I am starting to get used to the concept elf. The face may need some work, it is quite alien, but I feel elves should look more human - they are just fairer/taller/better proportioned/ more graceful than humans. If the idea is to be like the elves in Tolkien's books the helmet needs some work. In the Silmarillion the helms are said to be tall. There may need to be shield options, there is a hint that Noldor used long shields unlike the Sindar - but quite what the Sindar used is unknown.
Ecthelion of the Fountain had a spiked helm, so at least one figure with a spike might be nice.
I think the Grenadier/Mirliton look is right, just that the poses are a bit static and there should be more sword/shield combinations (although Sindar in the First Age are often said to be armed with axes).
I realise that there is nothing to say that the idea is to have Oathmark elves as Tolkien elves, but there is that niggling suspicion......
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The elf looks fine to me. Leave the sword for practical reasons, if nothing else. A thin plastic version would break too easily. Not too keen on the heater shield, but then what shape would Elves have? Over the years I have seen ovals and kite shields with, I think, most being the latter. Leaving the pectoral blank is a good idea as it allows LBMS to do their magic. :)
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It was hinted on the Oathmark FB page that the elves will be out early 2018. That could be from January to June IMHO lol.
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That's good to know I have a bunch of the old Vendel and with them now out of production I now know where to get reinforcements.
The Conqueror Models Dwarfs are very nice miniatures sculpted by the same sculptor of the Vendel Miniatures range. I'm currently painting up a dozen of the miniatures and they really fit well with the Northstar Dwarfs. I have written a thorough review of the miniatures on Wargame News and Terrain, my daily wargame news blog along with scale comparison pictures. If of interest, you can check it here http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2017/10/conqueror-models-dark-age-dwarf.html?m=1
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That's good to know I have a bunch of the old Vendel and with them now out of production I now know where to get reinforcements.
Heard from the owner that more dwarfs are being sculpted including more infantry and more command miniatures. They are also looking great.
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Don't want dwarfses, we wants elfsessss.
Actually, if the dwarves are metal and have the lovely long beards of the other dwarves I am in.
And any news about orc/goblin wolf riders?
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They just posted a preview of the elves ( and pics of the humans) and ETA is April for them! Huzzah! https://www.facebook.com/Oathmark/?hc_ref=ARRDq1z25vayqVS1tfl8m9_A043RzDciZarcIUJbifo3DkLAoHHehqAOLybEe1YysF0&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/Oathmark/?hc_ref=ARRDq1z25vayqVS1tfl8m9_A043RzDciZarcIUJbifo3DkLAoHHehqAOLybEe1YysF0&fref=nf)
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These are looking very promising. I wonder whether they will have adornment for helmets if we wish a more decadent look. Otherwise the aethetic is good. Only the archer doesn't quite do it for me. April seems a long way off!
Edit:
I had another look at the elves. On second thoughts, the archer looks good, just the angle of the head looks a little off in a couple of the photos. Something that can easily be fixed. I hope they come with some completely unnecessary but funky capes and cloaks.
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I really like these Oathmark Elves. They're generic in a way you can take them in whatever direction you want so they're a great starting point.
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I like them a lot, though I hope they can adjust the tool so that the mail is more consistent.
Ethelred, they strongly implied in the caption of the metal test elf that the plumes will be optional, and included in the plastic set.
Edit; thought I’d throw the pic up directly:
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26910767_1953748477987923_992012954906246697_o.jpg?oh=d752608f01672f86ca14dfeb5c06c4bd&oe=5ADFC7D3)
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Matt, I did see that, but I would still like a few things other than feathers, but I think I could attempt those in greenstuff or get some bits and pieces from Hoard-o-Bits. Need a spike (Ecthelion of the fountain) and maybe a selection of wing-like adornments (as much as I don't like the GW elves, I still think elves were flashy bastards who liked to show off). Still, they are damned good miniatures.
Their humans are interesting as well. They look completely plausible but also retain a fantasy look. Oathmark is certainly going to give the more traditional fantasy massed combat miniatures manufacturers a run for their money.
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Matt, I did see that, but I would still like a few things other than feathers, but I think I could attempt those in greenstuff or get some bits and pieces from Hoard-o-Bits. Need a spike (Ecthelion of the fountain) and maybe a selection of wing-like adornments (as much as I don't like the GW elves, I still think elves were flashy bastards who liked to show off). Still, they are damned good miniatures.
Their humans are interesting as well. They look completely plausible but also retain a fantasy look. Oathmark is certainly going to give the more traditional fantasy massed combat miniatures manufacturers a run for their money.
I'm really hoping that they include helmet-wings for their humans- I'd like something Asterix-esque, but slightly more realistic in texture? It's unfortunate that Renedra don't seem to be able to squeeze as much out of a sprue as GW manages to these days (not sure if that's financial or technical though), I'm sure that's one of the limits on variety. Maybe we'll get a metal hero with a large-spiked helm?
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Placing a kite-form crest/ornament instead of a plume you'll have a dark elf.
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I like the dwarves, goblins, and humans (probably), but the elves just don't work for me... they are very generic and ungraceful imho.
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I really like these models, especially the archer looks really good. It will be interesting to see the ration of bare heads/helmets on the sprue.
I might shop around for some other shields though, either round shields or smaller kite shields.
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I like the Elves "okay". Nothing special, but I do appreciate that they're different than a lot of the others (and variety is always excellent). If we were to have more GW-looking elves...then you'd just buy GW elves.
I won't be buying these, but I'm anxious to see proper Orcs (the one gap missing notably in my dungeon crawl collection).
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It's unfortunate that Renedra don't seem to be able to squeeze as much out of a sprue as GW manages to these days (not sure if that's financial or technical though)
Most likely both. Renedra are generally working within the budget of their customers, where gw own all their production facilities and can afford the risk of technical experimentation and hardware upgrades.
Mind you, I don't think anyone is really on the same level as gw when it comes to plastics, from a technical standpoint.
I really like the human model they showed. It's grounded and yet not tied to any period. Could be post roman, medieval, ancient, or high fantasy all at once.
They'll make great men of the first age next to the elves, and I can see them making their way into ALOT of peoples projects, from Rome to westeros.
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I am more and more impressed by the Oathmark line to be honest. They are really hitting the mark when it comes to Tolkienesque miniatures and I really like their products so far.
I am slowly assembling my own take on the fellowship of the ring, sourcing each character from any range I can find, as long as they match my vision (a vision heavily influenced by the ICE RPG artwork, Tolkien's own drawings and several other artists such as Angus McBride).
And the Oathmark plastic ranges so far have all been very close to this. The elves especially have been troublesome to find the right miniatures for, but these seem to be (almost) on the mark indeed.
And the human looks very promissing too! Here's to hoping the elves and humans will be close in size to the Frostgrave plastics... ;)
Good stuff! 8)
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I like the Elves the most out of the ranges they've released so far. Building an elf army, if you don't like GW elves, isn't that easy. There is the old Grenadier/Copplestone Elves knocking around but they are quite GW like and Ral Partha Europe has some nice ones but other than that other ranges are small/not that good/expensive or Mantic :P.
These look really good to me and being plastic means I could probably afford a decent sized army.
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I like the Elves the most out of the ranges they've released so far. Building an elf army, if you don't like GW elves, isn't that easy. There is the old Grenadier/Copplestone Elves knocking around but they are quite GW like and Ral Partha Europe has some nice ones but other than that other ranges are small/not that good/expensive or Mantic :P.
These look really good to me and being plastic means I could probably afford a decent sized army.
Yup - to me, these look the nicest elves since Aly Morrison's old early-80s High Elves for Citadel.
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I like the Elves the most out of the ranges they've released so far. Building an elf army, if you don't like GW elves, isn't that easy. There is the old Grenadier/Copplestone Elves knocking around but they are quite GW like and Ral Partha Europe has some nice ones but other than that other ranges are small/not that good/expensive or Mantic :P.
These look really good to me and being plastic means I could probably afford a decent sized army.
Exactly! If you nose around this site, you'll see my various posts asking about heads/size compatibility. I was planning on kitbashing elves from various historicals, but Roman and Greek heads just didn't work. ( I'd have gone with Spartan pilos helmets, but the Spartans had beards :( ). I ended up choosing Macedonian heads from Victrix to go with Fireforge Teutonic bodies, and I may still use some for my vision of elves with the Oathmark heads.
IMHO both from Tolkien's writings and other depiction of elves, they would not have had a precise uniform military, but would have had a number of individuals extremely skilled at arms. But that's just me. I almost choked when one poster asked about females elves, saying they loved to go into combat.....Each to their own I guess.
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Still not quite sold on these, I'm afraid. It's probably unfair to judge from this selection, though, so I'll wait and see. Actually, I'll almost certainly pre-order a box in any case (I'm guessing they're aiming for them to be out for Salute).
My biggest sticking point (as it were) is the helmets - not the feathers, which as has been mentioned are detachable, but the shape. I'd much rather a rounder, less-pointed helmet, like some of the old Ral Partha elves, or those in some of the Alan Lee illustrations to the Children of Hurin. I'd settle for a sort of open Corinthian helmet. But these don't really work for me - too medieval-ish.
Without seeing the sprue, though, it's obviously impossible to know what the head options will be, and what sort of compatibility there might be with other sets or ranges (there are probably some Perry late medieval heads, or Victrix Greek ones, that might work, but who knows if they'd fit...)
Not wild about the shields either, but that's very easily fixed. Although I can see these shields being a standing challenge to the freehand painting wizards out there....
Having said all that, these are overall very promising and the Oathmark range as a whole is going from strength to strength. Time to build some more goblins....
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In the end, it's whatever you like as personal choice. As for a 1st Age look the Noldor, at least, are described as having high or tall helms (I can't quite remember the wording) - so I would almost think these helmets aren't tall/pointed enough. But a few closed helms would also be nice.
Edit: A lot of elven armour and weaponry was dwarven made, certainly for the Sindar early in the First Age. These helmets may well be lower/rounder.
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Lovely minis, I have really waited for these kind of stuff ;D
Cheers Thomas
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Didn't like the painted one. These plastics look pretty good. I'd need to see oathmarks rules before I lay down any money though.
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I really like the armour, shields and weapons, but not the helmets. They just look a bit 'ordinary'. Perhaps years of GW and the Jackson movies have influenced me a little too much or maybe it's just my own internal image of Elves from The Silmarillion not quite matching up. Good to see something a bit different though.
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I like the plain Jane helmets, I think I'll be replacing the shields with ones that look less fantastical, probably just viking era round shields.
It really bugs me that they're wearing gloves. That's not at all a dark ages sort of thing to wear. I may have to greenstuff some sleeves terminating at the wrists.
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I think they'll be perfect for Tekumel, even with the scaled back plumage.
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I like the plain Jane helmets, I think I'll be replacing the shields with ones that look less fantastical, probably just viking era round shields.
It really bugs me that they're wearing gloves. That's not at all a dark ages sort of thing to wear. I may have to greenstuff some sleeves terminating at the wrists.
Gloves seem to be common to many elf sculpts. That and FM boots.
I agree that they would have been better without gloves, but they still seem the most practical elves I have seen.
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It really bugs me that they're wearing gloves. That's not at all a dark ages sort of thing to wear.
It's very elfish though, they are very particular about getting dirty. It's why they have tall helmets too, when you spend all morning working on your hair, you don't want it ruined by a spring shower or a pesky battle.
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I think some of the heads from the Russian Fireforge infantry would go well with these elves.
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I think some of the heads from the Russian Fireforge infantry would go well with these elves.
Good God, man. I hope you are not suggesting bearded elves!! lol
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The oval breast plate is still bugging me; I imagine it was included to break up the chainmail, but it will be difficult to cover up unless sculpting full surcoats or so on them. Not a huge fan of the shields either (random indentations to top, side or both sides), but those are easily switched with others.
Other than that, they're great. Best plastic armoured Elves, among the best armoured Elves out there in general. Just loving the chosen aesthetic for this range.
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I love those elves. In an age of Warcraft-inspired fantasy aesthetics and rule-of-cool over the top crap like EVERYTHING IN THE HOBBIT FILMS (ahem), I think it's nice to see more realistic, yet still fantastical models such as the Oathmark stuff. I shall definitely be planning a fantasy project around these... :)
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I really like the helmets. They fit in more with my reading of Tolkien than other styles do.
For me the weakest aspect is the shields. I'd prefer either round or kite shields with no bite marks...
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Most of you are probably aware that there is a second Facebook page for Oathmark (the Players Group). The two facebook pages have some interesting information about what is planned for the range. It seems that cloaks are hard to produce in plastic, so they are considering resin ones as an extra.
There is also a debate about dwarf cavalry - should such a thing exist, should they be mounted on ponies, goats, or bears......
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I would second that; There’s some really interesting stuff on the ‘Player’s Page’ it’s just unfortunate that it’s locked away on Facebook. I don’t have an Fb account but luckly I do have an understanding girlfriend who linked her account to the page for me.
Just a heads up for Nick at Northstar; We don’t all have Facebook so please don’t forgot about us on the wider web.
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Most of you are probably aware that there is a second Facebook page for Oathmark (the Players Group). The two facebook pages have some interesting information about what is planned for the range. It seems that cloaks are hard to produce in plastic, so they are considering resin ones as an extra.
There is also a debate about dwarf cavalry - should such a thing exist, should they be mounted on ponies, goats, or bears......
The cloak comment was mine ;)
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The cloak comment was mine ;)
Well done. Need those cloaks!
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Most of you are probably aware that there is a second Facebook page for Oathmark (the Players Group). The two facebook pages have some interesting information about what is planned for the range. It seems that cloaks are hard to produce in plastic, so they are considering resin ones as an extra.
There is also a debate about dwarf cavalry - should such a thing exist, should they be mounted on ponies, goats, or bears......
Really? GW have had cloaks in a number of plastic sets over the years and my Fireforge Teutonic knights have separate cloaks to that were perfectly serviceable seems odd.
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Really? GW have had cloaks in a number of plastic sets over the years and my Fireforge Teutonic knights have separate cloaks to that were perfectly serviceable seems odd.
Fireforge's Templar knights have cloaks too. Maybe you need to be a knight to get a cloak. :D
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Maybe it's the kind of cloak they want? Perhaps they're imaging them with long shoulder covering cloaks that wouldn't be feasible on a multi pose figure?
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I am unsure why cloaks are hard to do. I did think about getting some from Hoardobits but the Fireforge cloaks seem to be unavailable and of course all the older GW stuff is no longer stocked.
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I am unsure why cloaks are hard to do. I did think about getting some from Hoardobits but the Fireforge cloaks seem to be unavailable and of course all the older GW stuff is no longer stocked.
Buy a box of FF figures. It's worth it for all the extra bits you get, even if you don't want to use the figures.
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I prefer woodsy-type elves myself, but these are really quite nice for townie elves. I can see them growing on me.
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I hope there will be almost exclusively helmed heads on the sprue. Lack of helms in the Oathmark dwarf set is huge issue for me.
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I hope Northstar will be selling packs of spare metal heads, both with and without helmets. They have a "ranger" metal upgrade set for their Frostgrave soldiers, so its not out of the realm of possibility.
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I hope Northstar will be selling packs of spare metal heads, both with and without helmets. They have a "ranger" metal upgrade set for their Frostgrave soldiers, so its not out of the realm of possibility.
They’ve said that they intend to release a light infantry box for every race, so I’m not sure that metal add-ons are all that likely at the moment.
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I feel like North star is doing for fantasy what victrix did for 28mm romans.
There are no releases I am more excited about than the up coming elves, humans and female adventures from North star.
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Certainly these aren't cloakers!
(I'll get my coat...)
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A picture of the sprue for the elves is on the Facebook page for Oathmark.
Looks like options to have all with sword, spear or bow, a left arm with sword for a dual wield character, plumes for all if wished. Five helmeted heads, five bare (for the 5 bodies).
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The sprues have all the options, but no extras, which is fine by me :)
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I'm liking these elves! While I wouldn't want a full crew of them, a sprue or two would be fun to play around with.
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A picture of the sprue for the elves is on the Facebook page for Oathmark.
Looks like options to have all with sword, spear or bow, a left arm with sword for a dual wield character, plumes for all if wished. Five helmeted heads, five bare (for the 5 bodies).
Like the sprue lay-out and quality of these affordable sets, loads of weapon options on such small sprues. Also read that there will be both light and heavy infantry and that the elves shown are the medium infantry! Looks like they have loads of plastic sets inbound (plastic snakemen next month, female frostgrave soldiers, more Oathmark fantasy)
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plastic snakemen next month
You throw that in so casually?!! I've seen metal snakemen for Ghost Archipelago, but no news of plastics?
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I suspect I will be grabbing some of these at Salute this year to play around with as they do look very nice.
I think they have managed to fit more on the sprue this time too though I don't think they have a musician, not a problem for me as I don't need one.
I'm looking forward to seeing the light and heavy infantry as well as the cavalry.
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You throw that in so casually?!! I've seen metal snakemen for Ghost Archipelago, but no news of plastics?
I think they're to pop up in a Nickstarter later this month if I recall the case correctly.
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I like the look of these elvesesss and in general I am liking this range.
-Michael
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The sprue is revealed and I am happy to see at least five heads with helmets, although six or seven would be even better. I mean why to wear chainmail and leave the helmet at home?
Otherwise I am impressed with the early medievel feel (no need for GW LOTR heavy conversions anymore!). Spears, swords and bows for everyone - briliant! It will be easy to add few axes from other sets (as Tolkien describes them when speaking about Noldor).