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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Argonor on April 11, 2009, 10:36:23 AM
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Hi
I cannot for my death remember, if someone has told me this before, but what rules would you gentlemen recommend for small-scale VSF skirmish games with a 'weird adventure' twist (C'thulhu-esque monsters, Gothic Horror, Lost Worlds)?
I guess I could easily adopt Fantastic Worlds with a little work - on the other hand I would like some rules already containing Jules Verne-ish contraptions...
Well... I'm off to get some stuff from Ironclad. You can start calling me Darth Argo, or something... ;)
Now, where did I put those WF British Firing Line Plastics...?
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Hi
I cannot for my death remember, if someone has told me this before, but what rules would you gentlemen recommend for small-scale VSF skirmish games with a 'weird adventure' twist (C'thulhu-esque monsters, Gothic Horror, Lost Worlds)?
I guess I could easily adopt Fantastic Worlds with a little work - on the other hand I would like some rules already containing Jules Verne-ish contraptions...
Well... I'm off to get some stuff from Ironclad. You can start calling me Darth Argo, or something... ;)
Now, where did I put those WF British Firing Line Plastics...?
I would recommend the "GASLIGHT" family of rules. It covers everything from large-scale battles to RPGs and any sort of contraption or creature is easily incorporated :D
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Ah, yes... G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T should be good.... thanks... I had that name in my head, but thought it was more for a step up from skirmishes...
I'm off to find the rules....
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Well, wer all had a massive game of gaslights, about 15 big vehicles including walkers and fliyers, plus big monsters and everything basically. It was good.
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Official site seems to be down...???
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Well Darth Argo, Darth Gluteus has suggested the daddy of all VSF rules in GASLIGHT.
There is also Valour and Steel and Flesh by Parroom Station which have all the desired bits and pieces,(vehicles, monsters etc) They are very similar to GASLIGHT and are based on Brother Against Brother the ACW rule set designed for 10 figure skirmish groups.
I hav ethem, but we always play GASLIGHT instead. :)
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Maybe I should use my last name instead... Darth Kragh has a certain.... flavour.. lol
Where in the Web's name do I get the rules, when their official site is down?
Some web vendor has them, mayhaps?
I'll try Brigade - they always have what I cannot find elsewhere ;)
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Maybe I should use my last name instead... Darth Kragh has a certain.... flavour.. lol
Where in the Web's name do I get the rules, when their official site is down?
Some web vendor has them, mayhaps?
I'll try Brigade - they always have what I cannot find elsewhere ;)
Darth Kragh it is then :D
I got mine from Caliver Books or, perhaps it was Spirit Games, anyway one of them. But be careful some sellers charge a lot for the books, don't pay over ?10 per book.
For small games you will be ok with the basic rules, for the large battles we played at BLAM you would need Battles By Gaslight as well.
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I just bought the Basic Rules, the Adventures & Expeditions supplement, and the Pulp (To be continued...) supplement - along with some WWWII (Spyglass) Russian and civilian Zombies, and a couple of German Sinister Men. Minis not for GL, but it's about time I start using the many pre-painted WWII minis I've got from JohnnyTodd (I think it is)...
Battles may follow if I ever get that many minis painted up - but maybe I can bring a small contingent of Brits in HSU next time I go to London.... for a larger battle... ;) Ordered 2 packs of infantry + one command pack from Ironclad earlier today... and I do have 5 painted HLBS ones standing guard or at parade already....
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In my opinion, VS&F is the better system, as it has far more period flavor. GASLIGHT is fine, but it's a bit generic, and can get tedious after a while. It's basically only as good as what you put into it.
-Doc
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In my opinion, VS&F is the better system, as it has far more period flavor. GASLIGHT is fine, but it's a bit generic, and can get tedious after a while. It's basically only as good as what you put into it.
I don't mind generic - especially if it lets me build my own steam contraptions to use with it.
I'll try out GASLIGHT, first, and then, if I think I need more flavour, I'll maybe buy VS&F (Nice acronym ;) ).
Thanks all!!
As always a pleasure to ask questions in here! :)
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In my opinion, VS&F is the better system, as it has far more period flavor. GASLIGHT is fine, but it's a bit generic, and can get tedious after a while. It's basically only as good as what you put into it.
-Doc
True enough, but for me that's a large part of the attraction. I can easily adapt it to suit my idea of VSF without too much effort. It can be as silly and illogical as I like and, since I play mainly solo, nobody complains, not even the voices :-I
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I've got G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T, but became bored just reading them. It is indeed far too generic.
Anyone know where I can get VS&F in the UK?
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
I have read some of GASLIGHT....is ok
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
I bought WHH's The Great War at Salute, which I may use instead (with some changes). I'd still like a copy of VS&F, though.
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
I bought WHH's The Great War at Salute, which I may use instead (with some changes). I'd still like a copy of VS&F, though.
I bought mine in the UK several years ago and can't remember who from. Its worth trying Spirit Games or Caliver Books or Keep Wargaming.
The rules are based on Brother Against Brother (the ACW set), they are a good fun system.
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They can be acquired in the US through Brigade Games, as can many of the excellent Parroom Station miniatures.
-Doc
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
I bought WHH's The Great War at Salute, which I may use instead (with some changes). I'd still like a copy of VS&F, though.
I bought mine in the UK several years ago and can't remember who from. Its worth trying Spirit Games or Caliver Books or Keep Wargaming.
The rules are based on Brother Against Brother (the ACW set), they are a good fun system.
Ok, cool, I'll have a look about.
What is the book itself like? Much background etc?
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
I bought WHH's The Great War at Salute, which I may use instead (with some changes). I'd still like a copy of VS&F, though.
I bought mine in the UK several years ago and can't remember who from. Its worth trying Spirit Games or Caliver Books or Keep Wargaming.
The rules are based on Brother Against Brother (the ACW set), they are a good fun system.
Do the have a points system?
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so what are these rules VS&F from UK that you are talking about?
Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
I bought WHH's The Great War at Salute, which I may use instead (with some changes). I'd still like a copy of VS&F, though.
I bought mine in the UK several years ago and can't remember who from. Its worth trying Spirit Games or Caliver Books or Keep Wargaming.
The rules are based on Brother Against Brother (the ACW set), they are a good fun system.
Ok, cool, I'll have a look about.
What is the book itself like? Much background etc?
There is an established background, but you don't have to use it. There are rules for building your own units, contraptions, etc.
The rules do have a points system for building up forces, if you like. Again, it isn't mandatory, but a nice touch.
-Doc
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Valor, Steel & Flesh, from Parroom Station. I'm told they're rather spiffing;
http://www.parroom.net/Catalog%20pages/Cat_Rules_VnSnF.html
There is an established background, but you don't have to use it. There are rules for building your own units, contraptions, etc.
The rules do have a points system for building up forces, if you like. Again, it isn't mandatory, but a nice touch.
-Doc
Just recieved my copy and there isn't a points system or rules to build your own contraptions. Do you have a different edition to me Doc? The reference number on the back of mine says PSMR-101 and the only dates I can find are on page 2, 2002-2004.
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Can anyone else direct me to the contraption building rules and points system that Doc Twilight mentioned? Cheers.
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My first vote would go for Valor Steel and Flesh, second choice would be Rampant Colonialism, by Flagship games, Third would be Colonial Adventures by two hour wargames, next would be Great War, with some modifications and last would be GASLIGHT. Much of it depends on how big a force you want each side or player to control. RC or Great War likely handle the biggest forces, but they are both Igo-ugo games.
There are other sets out there, that I have played but not really enough to comment on. For multiple player games with 2 sides, but with each player on a side with slightly different objectives, the impulse system of VSF is great.