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Title: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 17, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
Hi,

I've got a good amount of old GW (Marauder) orcs and gobelins, and a few trolls too. I'd like to base them for AoS, but keeping them as "oldhammer spirit" as possible, concerning painting job.

I don't want the "neon" bright green paint scheme GW orcs are usually painted with, so I'd like to ask for some advices for a more "classic fantasy" orc paint scheme.

THank you a lot !
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Bloodsbane on November 17, 2017, 06:57:51 PM
In my experience, anything goes really

(http://i.imgur.com/ROEEP4g.jpg)
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 17, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
the one with the hook is interesting, I'm thinking of yellowish or brownish skin tone, actually. Any receipe ?


thanks
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Bloodsbane on November 17, 2017, 08:46:07 PM
Been an age since I painted these. I want to say hook guy is Vallejo model color orange brown shaded with devlan mud and highlighted with a touch of pale sand or ivory in more of the orange brown.

Here are some more examples
(http://i.imgur.com/nYpnd4p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8uLePrp.jpg)

Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Cubs on November 17, 2017, 08:49:07 PM
Nice. I do like the dark greyish/ivy green colour as well although I've yet to paint any of mine that colour.
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 18, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
Been an age since I painted these. I want to say hook guy is Vallejo model color orange brown shaded with devlan mud and highlighted with a touch of pale sand or ivory in more of the orange brown.

Here are some more examples
(http://i.imgur.com/nYpnd4p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8uLePrp.jpg)




Thank you, I think I see how to do it with my own paints collection. I really like  the skin tone on  the 1st pic on first pic, and the 3rd and 4th figures on the second pic, that's what I 'm looking for.
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on November 18, 2017, 07:21:38 PM
Nice stonework, by the way!
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on November 18, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
From memory, in the original D&D Monster Manual goblins (orcs at that time had pig faces and so don't fit these miniatures) were reddish in colour.
Tolkien is vague, but it seems they were anything from sallow (yellow/pale brown), through to swart (dark, but just how dark) and of course he mentions black uruks - although whether black by nature or truely black in colour is uncertain.

GW made orcs green.

For my one and only orc  couldn't decide between green and more Tolkienish brown.  I ended up going half way using (I think) a British Army green with a brown wash.


(https://preview.ibb.co/nimHSm/20171119_081742.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hxHff6)
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: katie on November 19, 2017, 10:50:11 AM
(https://www.fysh.org/~katie/wargames/pictures/flintloque/IMG_20131012_155852.jpg)

I use Coat d'Arms 537 Faded Khaki as a base, Army Painter soft tone, then 225 Khaki and 225 Khaki + white.

They come out greeny-brown.
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Supercollider on November 19, 2017, 05:48:48 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/660/22998562050_fbd2eeef46_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/B3iDeU)

I did some BB gobbos with olive toned skin, I like the way they turned out.

Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: StuRat on November 20, 2017, 12:46:13 AM
Orcs aren't green.

But they can't take the sunlight.

So one of the clever lads created an aloe based sun-sceen that gives them the greenish tint that has been exaggerated by artists ever since.
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2017, 02:05:56 AM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q57cYBjwhhE/WWw1BA5bDqI/AAAAAAAAFhA/PgY8mpA-NY8Iaz0phBWU-TwXc3v4xdOzQCLcBGAs/s1600/horcsf01.jpg)
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on November 20, 2017, 05:11:47 AM
Orcs aren't green.

But they can't take the sunlight.

So one of the clever lads created an aloe based sun-sceen that gives them the greenish tint that has been exaggerated by artists ever since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ-IxZ46ng
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 20, 2017, 01:11:09 PM
great info and great pics, thanks !
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 24, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
I had a rummage through my thread to find some alternative schemes and found a fair few (many of them rather dubious!):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=33206;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=59390;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=59427;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=44258;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=41570;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=64923;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=58986;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=67395;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=67629;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=66112;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=49445;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=43482;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=43098;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=45366;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=50610;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=53782;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=53379;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=57548;image)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=50836;image)
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: FramFramson on November 24, 2017, 07:07:15 PM
Prefer the darker grey-green-brown (with pinker highlights) myself.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y78B0BR.jpg)
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 24, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
Nice work (I especially appreciate and recognize the work on the pants, after painting some stripes on a kingpin heroclix figure, a years ago  lol), but I think I'll go for something like that  :

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=44258;image)

or just a bit more greenish :

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77384.0;attach=57548;image)

Thanks again for all these great pics and advises !

Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 25, 2017, 11:33:24 AM
If it helps, the first one was done by preshading a white undercoat with the Agra brown wash, drybrushing white, "tinting" with a thin wash of watered-down Elysian Green, washing with GW sepia, then highlighting with thinned Wych Elf Flesh.
Title: Re: "not too green" oldhammer orcs and gobs paint schemes ?
Post by: sundayhero on November 25, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
It helps a lot, and will save me some experiment time ! thank you !