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Other Stuff => Workbench => "Build Something" Archiv => Topic started by: beefcake on December 28, 2017, 10:48:54 PM
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I have a few ponderings about what I could do.
Frankenstein's monster (either still on the table or recently awakened)
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Stream crossing with some nasties in the river.
I may have more ideas later. But that is what I am thinking at the moment.
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So I think I'll be doing a Ropeswing over some sort of creature infested waters. Basically I'll be sculpting some things that looks like angler fish in a stream with a tree overhanging it with a rope attached. I plan on having an Iron Golem and it's kid handler about to have a go on it while ignoring the Warning signs. More of a diorama I guess but still building something :)
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Sounds intriguing - I am really tempted to bring the start date forward >:D >:D
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You have the power ;)
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You have the power ;)
Ooh, don't tempt me :D
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I've started on the Iron Golem. 3d Printing this one. I may do a few versions and pick which one I like.
Very basic at the moment.
I'm using Tinkercad to make this. It is basically playing with blocks.
So for the body I have a series of ovals that get smaller and smaller for the torso. The head is a cylinder. I'm not sure about the shoulders. I think I'll redo them.
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Added a waist using a cone with the pointy part widened out. I also put together a cylinder and a box to act as some sort of Powerpack on the back. I guess this is becoming kind of steampunkish now. I'll have to add some pipes to this. If I can't work them 3d printed I'll just make some GS ones.
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So this next picture shows me taking out a section of the torso. I created a trapezium prism sort of thing and then duplicated it and enlarged it. The smaller piece made a "hole" (subtracts from another model) and the other I kept as an additive piece. I joined it to the rest of the Golem.
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Wait till I get to the rivets... ;D
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Thanks for the pics and progress shots.
I am curious as to exactly how this 3D printing witchcraft works.
Is it simply a case of selecting a shape from a menu, adjusting the size and then orientating it to the desired position and then making adjustments from there?
Looking good so far.
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depends on what program you use mason. But essentially yes, that is one of the methods you can use. The other usual method is via sketches which my build will show.
I look forward to seeing that then.
I have absolutely no idea about 3D printing etc, so am very curious about the process.
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I look forward to seeing that then.
I have absolutely no idea about 3D printing etc, so am very curious about the process.
ditto! ???
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I think I'll be taking notes. I bought a Prusa 3D kit, and assembled it. I only found time to fire it up for the first time last Friday, and still need to calibrate it before trying it out; so this'll be useful. I will not be using it for this BSC definitely - not enough time to learn.
Looks cool 8) 8) 8)
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So I forgot to do this more step by step but first I made a cylinder with a lot of shorter but wider cylinders attach to it to create something like piping or a power centre.
I copied it 2 times and then I added them to the model by using a couple of large boxes to subtract the excess overhang so that it fits nicely into the rest of the model. I had to select the 3 orange cylinders and the 2 subtractive boxes and click the group button. I then added it to the rest of the design.
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I really do appreciate seeing this process in such detail.
Looking good, sir.
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Thanks. I'm not looking forward to doing the hands.
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nice to see 3d construction
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Pelvis complete. This was a cube with a series of parabolic arcs taken out of it.
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I like that! It has a very Laputa vibe going for it! 8)
Have you thought of colour schemes already?
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Originally I had though just a metallic steel colour. But after seeing it red I might go for a weathered red look. I quite like it.
Something that was annoying me was the fact that the torso oval was made up of 20 sides (Circles are not actually circles in Tinkercad just multisided shapes.) So I had to ungroup all of the pieces I had grouped together (which you can see in the first picture) and break it down so that I could change the torso pieces. I upped the sides on the "ovals" to about 60 or so (maybe 64?) so that it created a much smoother appearance for the torso. I decided to do this now rather than much later when breaking it up would have been much more time consuming. I had to put everything back in the correct order as well so that the subtractive pieces didn't remove the wrong part of the sculpt.
You can see in the bottom picture, the one on the right has a much smoother torso.
ADDED A BETTER PHOTO OF THE FINAL RESULT
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What about doing the Laputa type scene with it. Make it all rusty, worn and beaten up, with moss covering it? Have the kids ready to turn on the huge hulking war machine not knowing what it is?
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/C29CE6AF-F7B4-40DC-86CC-04D8C0AFFF3D_zpstofdpnxh.jpg~original) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C29CE6AF-F7B4-40DC-86CC-04D8C0AFFF3D_zpstofdpnxh.jpg.html)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/654DAE8C-0860-4C5E-9FBF-AAE6018B68B2_zpsev2uhbvl.jpg~original) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/654DAE8C-0860-4C5E-9FBF-AAE6018B68B2_zpsev2uhbvl.jpg.html)
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Never heard of Laputa before. It has a nice look to it and definitely seems ill advised.
Here are the next pics showing How I created the thighs.
The first picture shows the thigh front completed (Back still needs doing).
In the background you can see me basically putting in some placeholder pieces to see what leg sizes might work. (1 minute work, end result will look much nicer)
Basically all these pictures are back to front as I made the shape first then showed how I made it afterwards.
The 3rd pic shows how I designed the shape for the front. I had a semicircle that I rotated to the position I wanted.
I removed the parts I didn't want, then I duplicated and reversed the shape to keep it symmetrical.
In the 2nd pic I guess you could say I made a 3d mold. So I took the shape from the last picture and made it a subtractive piece. I made a box and "cut" the shape into it.
I then made this new "mold" into a subtractive piece and chopped it out of the basic thigh shape, giving the final result in the first picture.
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Never heard of Laputa before. It has a nice look to it and definitely seems ill advised.
If you don't mind watching anime I recommend you give it a go. One of my favorite Miyazaki films, beside Nausicaä.
It's interesting to see the design process. I took some CAD courses back in college and liked it, but never used it for anything...
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I'm happy to watch anime, as long as it is recommended as good, which this one seems to be.
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It really is great watching this come together,
Most instructive.
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Thanks :)
Latest picture. Very complicated getting it to the shape suffice to say it involved a lot of curves and pulling everything apart.
I've popped in an exploded version to show some of the parts (not all though) that I used to put this together.
The foot is not complete and there will be a joint between the thigh and massive calf.
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And how it is progressing as a whole.
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That is really going to be cool 8) 8) 8)
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That is really going to be cool 8) 8) 8)
Ditto! What size is this guy going to be? I might be being blind, but I can't see a scale anywhere! :?
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I was thinking scale wise it would be about 8-9 feet tall. Each of the little boxes on the floor is 1mmx1mm but really I can make it as big or as small as I want. I might print a few at different sizes and see which one I want to use.
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It is coming together very nicely, sir.
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Although I do think that you need to alter the title in the opening post now.
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Lol. You are probably right there. I still plan on making the processing scene though.
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So I worked on the arms today. I was really not wanting to do the fingers but seeing as they will be so small I didn't need to put too much detail into them. I also overlapped them so that they will have some strength during printing and also after printing (don't let the three year old get it).
Close ups of the upper arm, forearm and hand, in that order.
Very shortly I'll be putting it all together.
I'm also thinking I may do a tougher looking version of this guy to fill out my fantasy golem stuff.
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Great progress! 8)
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Thanks. :)
Here are some "assembled" pictures.
I will probably print it in pieces (got to figure out the best way to do that.
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:o :o :o
That looks amazing!
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I love the pose and that 'face' is brilliant.
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:) Thanks.
I like the simplicity and uncertainty of the face. It really goes well with Ill-advised.
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Yeah, that face really gives it character. Love it. :-*
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Printing is underway! Stupidly I didn't take any photos but will try to remember when I go and collect it. I printed 2 off. One is 46mm tall the other 60mm. I'm thinking the smaller one but we'll see. Printing at 100 microns on "fine" speed (so basically it is slower for better results) It will take 7ish hours to print both of them.
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He looks a bit sad, poor big guy :'(
Curious to see the texture of this - and how he turns out in the plastic.
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First print didn't work. It was too hot indoors so the filament stopped extruding (apparently that can happen) I opened the lid up to add some extra ventilation and it printed fine. Just the small version at the moment. I have the big one going now.
Pics of it in the printer (close to finishing)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4613/38971058665_d481750deb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22nJS1z)IMG_20180124_155539 (https://flic.kr/p/22nJS1z) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
I had to get my hand deep inside (calm down now) to get this shot. I made sure not to get too close to the printer head as I didn't want to bump it and wreck the print.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4723/38971052035_05a2c397bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22nJQ3g)IMG_20180124_155640 (https://flic.kr/p/22nJQ3g) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
Closer to finishing...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4676/24998875187_bcce10370c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E64LDr)IMG_20180124_162009 (https://flic.kr/p/E64LDr) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
Closer...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4722/39159660254_90a05dd6e6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22EpuG7)IMG_20180124_162805 (https://flic.kr/p/22EpuG7) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
Done.
Inside the printer.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4753/38971021485_e66a22356d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22nJEXx)IMG_20180124_162826 (https://flic.kr/p/22nJEXx) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
You can see the support material around this that keeps overhangs from drooping down. One print I did on Turbo once (A yoda head pencil holder) knocked a support over and destroyed the print.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4648/39159666144_d71ec56a60_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22EpwrE)IMG_20180124_202118 (https://flic.kr/p/22EpwrE) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
Support material removed.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4759/24998770687_ff51ccb34e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E64ezH)2018-01-24_09-25-15 (https://flic.kr/p/E64ezH) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
28mm zombie for scale
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4755/39837637302_5ccce15c97_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23GjiDy)2018-01-24_09-27-20 (https://flic.kr/p/23GjiDy) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
Close up
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/24998789907_e845c0dd76_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E64ki6)2018-01-24_09-26-46 (https://flic.kr/p/E64ki6) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
another close up.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4649/25996770768_fb45e05a49_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FBffeE)2018-01-24_09-26-18 (https://flic.kr/p/FBffeE) by Kieran Me (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151134189@N02/), on Flickr
I still have to tidy it up some but a pretty tidy print as is considering its size. The line across the leg is a mess.
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That looks like it’s going to be a LOT of work to smooth out! :o Is that printing at its finest level or can you make it finer again so there’s less work? Do the bumps file off easy?
Could you not have kept the design without the details and then sculpted them on, traditionally, with green stuff? Kind of use the 3D print as a dolly?
Sorry for all the questions! I’m just trying to get head around this printing malarkey!
Oh! And btw, thanks for showing us the process! Really interesting stuff!
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Wow!
Seeing it with its support material, it looks a mess but once that is stripped away....
That is pretty damned impressive considering it sounds like you just press a button and leave it to print itself.
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Still a fair bit of work to do cleaning up, by the looks of it, but I have no idea how difficult that would be.
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When you see it in the flesh it looks a lot nicer. That is the problem with SLA printers though, the layers they make although 1/10th of a mm are still quite visible to the eye, especially close up with a camera. The slightly bigger version will be better as well I imagine as the finer details will have more layers to them. (I'm reprinting so it is 65mm tall.)
I've used 3d printed stuff as dollies before and yes it works well.
A bit of filing and my usual thick layers of paint should help. lol
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wow! I didn't think any of the 3D ones would be at the print stage already, great work! Love the design too :)
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Thanks. I have more stuff to go on this yet however the design part of this is complete :)
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very nice indeed
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They work really well. The underside are really crisp and the supports pull away with very little work leaving hardly any support plastic on the underside, I say very little but I don't really notice any at all. I'm very impressed by the.supports on this. They are also very thin. The lower part is just one printed line, nothing in behind that.
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I actually liked the appearance with supports too - it looked a lot like a gigantic Iron-Giant sized machine under construction with scaffolding all round it :D
This is seriously becoming educational. Can't wait to see the big one - and a finished version all done up and painted (sigh, 5 more weeks for that...) 8) 8) 8)
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I've got the bigger one done (but accidentally pulled some fingers off, I'll just resculpt with GS) Overnight I put on a new print of it. This one is taking 18hrs to print. This one is not actually for the Build Something though. I'll probably use it as an example of what you can build on a 3d printer for my students.
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What height is the new, bigger one?
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Sorry, haven't taken any photos of the new one yet but I will.
Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to finish this. I will be able to paint the golem but the ropeswing side of things is completely in the too-long-to-complete-as-I-have-too-much-work-on-now basket.
I'll happily finish painting it and show pics of that if people want but I think it kind of puts me out of the contest (Weight of my shoulders though)
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What a wonderful creation! Many thanks, like others have said before, for showing the process of it all.
If you are running out of time, maybe come up with a clever fast solution to finish it off. Place the poor golem standing on pool of water (water effects) and paint rust forming on its feet and legs, like it was created and left unused in some wet corner of a dungeon for a small eternity, thus leaving it to rust. And thus the sad face and posture of it :D That's rather ill-advised by the wizard who created it ;)
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Not a bad idea. I was thinking of painting it rusted anyway. Don't have any water effects and money is a bit tight at the moment, I may see what I can do.
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Not a bad idea. I was thinking of painting it rusted anyway. Don't have any water effects and money is a bit tight at the moment, I may see what I can do.
Acrylic gloss varnish works nicely for small pools of water and a general wet look like a dungeon might have. Massively cheaper than any of the "real" water effects, you should be able to get it for a couple of bucks at any craft store with a decent selection of craft paints.
I don't have any photos but I recently did up a couple of stands of farm animals (scenery or loot!) with some nice mud and puddle effects just with gloss varnish.
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Acrylic Gloss I have. I'll probably try to get some time finishing that tonight or the weekend. No other time!
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In fact maybe I could reprint one minus some of the leg section so it looks semi-submerged.
I may even use some Tamiya clear green to make it look stagnant
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Photo submitted. It isn't my original plan so please message Vanvlak if it is a problem and goes against the spirit of the contest.
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Photo submitted. It isn't my original plan so please message Vanvlak if it is a problem and goes against the spirit of the contest.
Good luck mate! It’s been a joy to watch your build take shape!
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Cheers. It has been great to watch all of the "somethings" take shape. Great time of year for inspiration.
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Good luck mate! It’s been a joy to watch your build take shape!
Gotta agree with Andy, it HAS been a great experience watching the process.
I cant see any reason for disallowing the entry as we are all doing very different things so identifying what is 'right' would be very difficult indeed.
And who is to say that it is not the same idea, it is simply that the ropeswing snapped and the fella is in the water now, eh?
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Still trying to get hold of the submitted pic :( - could you resubmit to buildsomething@leadadventureforum.com, just in case retrieval proves impossible?
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Just resent it.
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Safely received :D 8) 8)
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That is a really lovely robot. Hopefully you'll get to make the swing version - would really like to see that. I see so many possibilities for this robot.
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Cheers. Watch this space for more information.
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I love the end result.
He looks great!
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Cheers. Watch this space for more information.
Ooooh!
:D