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With all the excitement for the new Saga rules. I've been digging out my Viking and Norman miniatures. I made this piece as an objective marker or scene dresser. It's also been picked up by Footsore miniatures, so will be available from them sometime.
(https://i.imgur.com/hWAbygS.jpg)
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It's a bit gory, that's why it was called the Dark Ages I guess and added to the Vikings notoriety. It also presented a good sculpting challenge, which took bit of figuring out on how to execute properly (excuse the pun).
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A masterfully rendered piece.
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And that's why its some times better to go down fighting.
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Good job, I'm sure it will get some suitably gruesome paint jobs. Top work.
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Nice work! It looks great.
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The sculpt is top notch. The subject is... ehem... disturbing.
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Gross but awesome! Beautiful work.
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It a good piece of sculpting and will make a striking piece of scenery. I'm guessing that the objective won't be one of rescue...
I don't think anyone should get worked up by it, it is what it is.
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Ooh! I bet that stings :o
Very original sculpt.
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Superb sculpt! I will buy this 100% and great news that footsore will be the supplier!
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Gnarly... maybe you can also sculpt a version where the guy is in better shape and use it as a rescue objective marker?
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For your next sculpt you could do the killing of Brodir after the battle of Clontarf. ;)
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Wow! As good as the rest of it is, the face/head are fantastic! :o
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Gnarly... maybe you can also sculpt a version where the guy is in better shape and use it as a rescue objective marker?
I thought that the body of a beloved leader would still be worthy as an objective marker. Maybe even adding a randomiser, so any friendly troops either gain or lose fatigue as they approach the objective. Depending on if they are outraged or repulsed by the execution. May also make a Joms Viking leaders base a bit scary?
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I thought that the body of a beloved leader would still be worthy as an objective marker. Maybe even adding a randomiser, so any friendly troops either gain or lose fatigue as they approach the objective. Depending on if they are outraged or repulsed by the execution. May also make a Joms Viking leaders base a bit scary?
Nice ideas.
I was thinking of switching from alive to blood-eagled on turn #x if the rescue group doesn't get there in time while at least one of the enemy is in proximity.
Then, bonuses and penalties change, as you described, for the second part of the game.
Just brainstorming....
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They were bleedin' ( ::)) Vikings... sometimes it got a tad bloody!
:-*
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Joking apart, I'd like to see how one of the expert painters on the LAF, renders that reeking blood drenched corpse convincingly!
???
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Well it actually made me feel a little bit ill, So I'd say good job! :D
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Nice ideas.
I was thinking of switching from alive to blood-eagled on turn #x if the rescue group doesn't get there in time while at least one of the enemy is in proximity.
Then, bonuses and penalties change, as you described, for the second part of the game.
Just brainstorming....
I like that idea. Racing against the clock to rescue the prisoner, before he's executed. Good plan!
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Gorgeous. Love it :).
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It's grim stuff. I suppose it's not a lot different from the dead and wounded figures or the occasional 28mm severed head.
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Great sculpting on a suitably gruesome miniature.
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Where are the lungs?
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Brutal stuff - but a good sculpt.
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Where are the lungs?
I am no anatomist, but you see those things on top or the shoulders that look like shoulder pads... :o
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Where are the lungs?
Lying on the shoulders ;)
Great sculpt by the way, Phil, well done.
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Thank you everyone. Really appreciate the feedback :)
Hopingvyo see some painted versions in the near future.
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This will def be one for my collection!
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Thats a pretty cool sculpt, I like it!
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It's grim stuff. I suppose it's not a lot different from the dead and wounded figures or the occasional 28mm severed head.
Yes, it’s funny isn’t it, what we consider acceptable or unacceptable in the world of miniature wargames figures...
I would put this very much in the same category as some of Brother Vinni’s sculpts.
In other words, I like it.
A gruesome depiction of torture and death in miniature is not going to be to everyone’s taste, that’s for sure. But it’s certainly well executed, if you’ll pardon the pun ;)
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Yes, it’s funny isn’t it, what we consider acceptable or unacceptable in the world of miniature wargames figures...
I would put this very much in the same category as some of Brother Vinni’s sculpts.
In other words, I like it.
A gruesome depiction of torture and death in miniature is not going to be to everyone’s taste, that’s for sure. But it’s certainly well executed, if you’ll pardon the pun ;)
😂
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This fig is amazing, and I'm stoked that it will be available for purchase! Can't wait to get my hands on a copy to paint up!
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It will make a nice vignette to use with my Vikings, in WAB, Saga and, appropriately, Blood Eagle :D
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Yes, it’s funny isn’t it, what we consider acceptable or unacceptable in the world of miniature wargames figures...
I would put this very much in the same category as some of Brother Vinni’s sculpts.
In other words, I like it.
A gruesome depiction of torture and death in miniature is not going to be to everyone’s taste, that’s for sure. But it’s certainly well executed, if you’ll pardon the pun ;)
Richard, the difference is, that these figures are made by a guy who left the puberty, Brother Vinni still is in it. ;)
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This is available from Footsore atm as a freebie for when you spend over £25.
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The sculpting is pretty good, the subject way over the limit of the pornography of violence in my taste, and historically more than a little dubious as there is no evidence that such a method of execution ever existed.
Quite prepared to believe 9th Century Norsemen weren't the types to invite to a vicarage tea, but then I see no reason to sculpt one of those for a wargame either.
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Good. Now, if somebody forces you to like it or, even worse, buy it, tell me and I'll gladly take it out of your hands o_o
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Horrifying. For some reason, maybe the alleged historical and attendant reality, or perhaps the unusual specificity of the method - this has touched a nerve with me. Oddly and (maybe hypocritically) it's similar to things I've made- I have a Dark Eldar with a flayed person as a back banner for goodness sake. Sort of a front view of this poor guy. I will have to think upon the real difference. I have all sorts of other gruesome things, so what is it about this?
A few days ago, while reading the 'Book of the New Sun' series, I ended up researching 'breaking on the wheel'.
The thing I take away from it all is that humans, as a species, really do deserve a giant meteor.
It is a well done sculpt though, and thought provoking, which in itself says a lot.
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Yes, it’s funny isn’t it, what we consider acceptable or unacceptable in the world of miniature wargames figures...
I would put this very much in the same category as some of Brother Vinni’s sculpts.
In other words, I like it.
A gruesome depiction of torture and death in miniature is not going to be to everyone’s taste, that’s for sure. But it’s certainly well executed, if you’ll pardon the pun ;)
I wouldn't really call any of what brother vinni makes Gruesome. There's torture gear in it, but no actual torture, more titillation. It's all very controlled, very much the aesthetic of torture.
This...Well, I think brother vinnis normal market would have a hard time wanking to this.
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Good. Now, if somebody forces you to like it or, even worse, buy it, tell me and I'll gladly take it out of your hands o_o
If someone gave me one I'd melt it down.
You obviously feel differently and that's okay.
I probably wouldn't invite you to tea if you do though. :)
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Just seen a piccy of one painted up... bit crap, not enough blood!!!
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Just seen a piccy of one painted up... bit crap, not enough blood!!!
It does look lovely awesome though!
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@Komosol:
I's a miniature. A representation of old nordic saga's for a game named.... wait for it..., well, you've guessed it, Saga!
Totally not worth cancelling ones tea party imho, but feel free to go totally pc over it. lol
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I know it's a bit of a Marmite miniature. The subject is grim, but there are plenty of miniatures adorned with flayed skin, severed heads etc, nothing particularly out of step with this fellow.
It is regarded as a uniquely Viking method of execution, whether it was actually practiced or not is unclear, but for a Dark ages scenery piece or objective token, it works and is a bit different to a wagon or treasure chest.
Certainly not worth cancelling tea parties or falling out over.
Anyway, who's heard of Vlad the Impaler?
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No but please, do sculpt some impaled victims :D.
Edit: and make sure they are Saracens. With boobs. To tick all the sjw-boxes lol
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The Blood Eagle - real or myth ? Below is from the Wikipedia article on the Blood Eage - I was too lazy to look up my own references, but the upshot is that it might be just a myth or mistranslation.
The blood eagle ritual killing rite appears in just two instances in Norse literature, plus oblique references some have interpreted as referring to the same ritual. The primary versions share certain commonalities: the victims are both noblemen (Halfdan Haaleg or "Long-leg" was a prince; Ælla of Northumbria a king) and both of the executions were in retaliation for the murder of a father.
There is debate about whether the blood eagle was historically practiced, or whether it was a literary device invented by the authors who transcribed the sagas. No contemporary accounts of the ritual exist, and the scant references in the sagas are several hundred years after the Christianization of Scandinavia.
Alfred Smyth supported the historicity of the ritual, stating that it is clearly human sacrifice to the Norse god Odin. He characterized St. Dunstan's description of the Ælla's killing as an "accurate account of a body subjected to the ritual of the blood eagle".
Roberta Frank reviewed the historical evidence for the ritual in her "Viking Atrocity and Skaldic Verse: The Rite of the Blood-Eagle", where she writes: "By the beginning of the nineteenth century, the various saga motifs—eagle sketch, rib division, lung surgery, and 'saline stimulant'—were combined in inventive sequences designed for maximum horror." She concludes that the authors of the sagas misunderstood alliterative kennings which described carnivorous birds scavenging after battles, i.e. killing a foe and allowing their backs to be torn by eagles as battlefield carrion. She compared the lurid details of the blood eagle to Christian martyrdom tracts, such as that relating the tortures of Saint Sebastian, shot so full of arrows that his ribs and internal organs were exposed. She suggests that these tales of martyrdom inspired further exaggeration of the misunderstood skaldic verses into a grandiose torture and death ritual with no actual historical basis. David Horspool in his book King Alfred: Burnt Cakes and Other Legends, while not committing to the historical veracity of the ritual, also saw parallels to martyrdom tracts.
Frank's paper sparked a "lively debate".
Ronald Hutton's The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy states that "the hitherto notorious rite of the 'Blood Eagle,' the killing of a defeated warrior by pulling up his ribs and lungs through his back, has been shown to be almost certainly a Christian myth resulting from the misunderstanding of some older verse."[15]
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That's really interesting.
It certainly doesn't do their reputation for brutality any harm. A bit similar to the film Jaws with the Great White Shark. Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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I love this mini. If you preorder Saga Viking from Footsore you can apparently get this and a freebie Viking berserker as well.
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sjw-boxes
feel free to go totally pc over it.
Go on, call someone a libtard and I'll be able to complete my 'right-wing b/s buzzword Bingo' sheet.
::)
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Okay, keep calm lads, it’s only a small toy - let’s not bring politics (correct or otherwise) into it. ;)
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That's really interesting.
It certainly doesn't do their reputation for brutality any harm. A bit similar to the film Jaws with the Great White Shark. Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Quint was based off of Long Islander Frank Mundus....
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Quint was based off of Long Islander Frank Mundus....
Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies.
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Brilliant stuff Sid, one of my all time film Heroes!
"Ten thousand dollars. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing."
:-*
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Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies.
😀
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@Komosol:
I's a miniature. A representation of old nordic saga's for a game named.... wait for it..., well, you've guessed it, Saga!
Totally not worth cancelling ones tea party imho, but feel free to go totally pc over it. lol
Totally PC?
I must have missed a class on modern pejoratives.
Nothing 'political' about my feelings.
Historicity, morality and taste - yes.
I was quite happy for others to like it. Why can't you be content for me to dislike it?
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Some members of my gaming groupe could need it... as end of game objective marker... with the objective of capturing some enemy player who deserved it (?) in the campaign, and to replace his miniature by it...
Till now they only have 28mm heads on sticks for that.... lol
Wait a minute... I now remember that in a Viking game three years ago, some rogue ran away with the daughter of my Viking chief character, and married her without her father's permission... Well, well, well... I could see a future for him... >:D
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/14/79/97/63/p1020732.jpg)