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Title: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 27, 2018, 11:57:58 AM
Can anyone tell me how well the Iron Duke Indian Mutiny figures match with their Foundry counterparts.  Pics would be very useful.  Many thanks.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Jeff965 on January 27, 2018, 03:25:30 PM
I'm on it Gary! Pictures will be up by teatime :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Jeff965 on January 27, 2018, 04:40:03 PM
There you go, the Foundry stuff is 25mm where as the Iron Duke stuff is modern 28mm. Hope these photos help :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Siaba on January 27, 2018, 05:37:29 PM
Thank you!
That's ok for me. I would mix them together  :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: white knight on January 27, 2018, 05:50:47 PM
Just find some bigger horses for the mounted ones and it should work fine.  :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 27, 2018, 06:20:51 PM
Jeff,

Many thanks for the comparison shots.  Foundry are that much smaller than Iron Duke which in turn are smaller than Mutineer Miniatures.  That coupled with my dislike of many of the Foundry poses means I will be sticking to Iron Duke/Mutineer for the time being except for a few particular figures to fill a niche or make up a vignette.

Cheers
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Jeff965 on January 27, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
Jeff,

Many thanks for the comparison shots.  Foundry are that much smaller than Iron Duke which in turn are smaller than Mutineer Miniatures.  That coupled with my dislike of many of the Foundry poses means I will be sticking to Iron Duke/Mutineer for the time being except for a few particular figures to fill a niche or make up a vignette.

Cheers


That's exactly what I would do Gary, Foundry are a dated range now the two figures above are 20 years old.
 Mutineer for me have some lovely sculpts and some not so good, I especially like the irregular types.
 Iron Duke are lovely figures, my only criticism is that a number of figures had to be returned because the bayonets had snapped off, I believe now the sculpts have been strengthened in some way to stop this happening but I'm just making you aware :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 27, 2018, 11:52:48 PM
Funny enough I have just received some figures from Iron Duke and one of the bayonets had come off but with a bit of the musket as well.  I managed to glue it back without a problem.

However I am impressed by the sculpts themselves and am looking forward to painting some up.  Pics won't be forthcoming until after the LPL which I hope to enter this year.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Arthur on January 29, 2018, 01:53:35 AM
Foundry are a dated range now the two figures above are 20 years old.

Going on 30 actually : the Foundry IM range was one of their very first and most of the castings were released circa 1987-1988. How time flies...
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: baxterj on January 29, 2018, 05:48:53 AM
The Foundry range has aged better than most figures of that generation, but when I pick up the brush to start painting IM figures again, it’s going to be hard to pass over the Iron Duke figures I have in favour of the Foundry stuff.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 29, 2018, 01:11:20 PM
The Foundry range has aged better than most figures of that generation, but when I pick up the brush to start painting IM figures again, it’s going to be hard to pass over the Iron Duke figures I have in favour of the Foundry stuff.

Luckily I don't have that problem. My first figures arrived at the weekend and are in the painting queue, but delayed until teh LPL starts.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Jeff965 on January 29, 2018, 01:30:09 PM
Going on 30 actually : the Foundry IM range was one of their very first and most of the castings were released circa 1987-1988. How time flies...

Crikey Arthur now I feel old lol. I think my painting has improved a little in that time but those IM figures have been rebased about half a dozen times and have been used for playing all sorts of rules. A real workhorse collection for me, the sort of figures you don't mind getting a bit of rough handling on the table lol.
I'll be retiring them soon though and they may be passed on to my grandson  :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Kommando_J on February 01, 2018, 05:22:01 AM
I'm slightly torn on both ranges, both have their good and bad points:

Foundry on one hand has plenty of variation (especially the officer packs) and a nice old school feel, but are also quite small by todays standards.

Iron Duke are nice, detailed and well proportioned, but are quite flimsy, don't get me wrong I love Paul Hicks work but he does have a distinct/delicate sculpting style that leads to very flimsy snapped off bayonets and bent/broken swords and a slight sameness when it comes to faces.

I know which range i'd rather accidentally drop lol.

Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Sparrow on February 01, 2018, 05:43:06 AM
Hi. I’ve been collecting the Iron Duke range for a while now. I’ve had problems with a few broken bayonets (but not many). On the rare occasions I have suffered, Iron Duke’s agent (Empress) have always sorted me out quickly. However, the problem is resolving itself as the castings seem to have been adapted slightly to make the bayonet area more durable. The other thing I am doing is brushing super glue on to the bayonet area pre priming. It’s like metal viagra!

The quality of the Iron Duke range is exceptional. The figures ooze with an authentic feel for the period and breadth of the range just keeps growing. If starting out I’d certainly recommend going down the Iron Duke root (just buy some super glue with the brush in the cap from Wilkinson’s !).

(PS Out of interest I have loads of other Paul Hicks designed figures in other periods, it was this factor that got me looking at this period if I’m honest, and none of these have a bayonet problem so suspect this minor issue is more a result of Iron Duke’s specification than the sculptor. Iron Duke are going the maximum authenticity? ).
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Jeff965 on February 01, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
Excellently put Sparrow and thanks for the tip with the super glue I'll give that a go :)
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: WillieB on February 01, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
The Iron Duke range is simply the best ever! But as already mentioned some of the older (smaller) Foundryfigures are so good despite their age it seem a shame not to use them.
For those so inclined is is a small thing to bring the Foundry figures to the same height as the newer Iron Dukes. In most cases it is just a matter of lengthening the upper legs as can be seen in the comparison pictures below. Takes about five minutes to saw through the legs,  insert a metal pin and fill the gap with Magic Sculpt or Green Stuff. Not really useful for entire regiments but for those occasional figures quite do-able.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Mlaxte.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poMlaxtej)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/iIYBCu.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pniIYBCuj)

The two on the right are Foundry, left an Iron Duke one.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Romark on February 01, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
Willie,those conversions are really good,can I ask,are the cuts you make above or below the figures knees?
Cheers
Keith
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: WillieB on February 01, 2018, 09:08:02 PM
Willie,those conversions are really good,can I ask,are the cuts you make above or below the figures knees?
Cheers
Keith

Above the knee Keith. The main  height difference in people is usually in the upper thighs. The Scot is actually a bad example as I had to lengthen the kilt a bit with Magic Sculpt as well. But I really wanted that figure.... I'm almost done painting him (next batch) and I promise to show a good?  picture of him.
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Romark on February 01, 2018, 09:52:14 PM
Thanks Willie :)
Looking forward to the picture when completed :)
Cheers
Keith
Title: Re: Size comparison Iron Duke and Foundry Miniatures
Post by: Hu Rhu on February 03, 2018, 07:04:20 PM
The other thing I am doing is brushing super glue on to the bayonet area pre priming. It’s like metal viagra!


That's a great tip about the bayonet issue. Thanks.


For those so inclined is is a small thing to bring the Foundry figures to the same height as the newer Iron Dukes. In most cases it is just a matter of lengthening the upper legs as can be seen in the comparison pictures below. Takes about five minutes to saw through the legs,  insert a metal pin and fill the gap with Magic Sculpt or Green Stuff. Not really useful for entire regiments but for those occasional figures quite do-able.


That's a nice idea and one I will try and emulate for those few Foundry figures that are worth it. Command and specials etc.  Thanks for sharing.