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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: OSHIROmodels on February 05, 2018, 08:05:46 AM
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Time to get the Star Wars toys out again :D
https://youtu.be/Gf61yPs4rcs (https://youtu.be/Gf61yPs4rcs)
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Never had a chance to put them away. Soon (TM) I must start my own Star wars thread...
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Well they've got enough unsold Rose toys at my local TK Max to make an army of Roses if you want.
Going forward, I'm afraid Star Wars is a "wait until it comes on the telly" franchise for me now.
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Understandable given the direction Disney seem to betaking them but this does have the feel of rogue One,which is no bad thing in my book :)
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Maybe. I was pleasantly surprised by Wonder Woman, though. I was expecting two hours of ham-fisted propaganda for the Culture Wars, instead I got a really cool superhero movie. Probably my favourite superhero movie yet. And Fury Road is actually (possibly heretical to say this) now my favourite Mad Max picture. So there still are some people out there who can make good genre films.
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Fury Road was three years ago. I suppose that is a long time ago to some people. Feels like yesterday to me.
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Okay... remember when we used to laugh at Alf Garnett/Archie Bunker/Alfred Tetzlaff (whichever works in your part of the world) and his rants about how the world wasn't like it used to be... that's where this thread is going.
;)
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I thought this was going to be about the forthcoming Solo film, not Pop culture and Fury road ;)
Can't we keep it on track with the OP?
Personally, I'm looking forward to it - didn't like TLJ that much, but really liked Rogue One. Let's hope Solo is another good spin off.
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Thank you Mark :)
I did see a new Tie fighter variant so hopefully Bandai will come up trumps again :D
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Can't we keep it on track with the OP
Disney has explicitly and proudly positioned Star Wars as a political franchise so I don't think you can really avoid discussion of it.
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Disney has explicitly and proudly positioned Star Wars as a political franchise so I don't think you can really avoid discussion of it.
Of course we can, we just focus on the film's entertainment value and gaming potential and avoid falling into the political/religious discussion trap. We're all adults here, so not really that difficult.
I did see a new Tie fighter variant so hopefully Bandai will come up trumps again :D
I'm sure X-wing will get a new wave of ships too!
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We're all adults here, so not really that difficult.
A lot of being an adult seems to involve politely pretending not to notice the elephant in the room.
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Not too sure about the monorail thingy but I suppose it depends on the context :)
A lot of being an adult seems to involve politely pretending not to notice the elephant in the room.
How about politely staying on topic and stop bringing your personal agenda into it... Again...
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I hated Rogue one and liked The last Jedi.
This looks decent enough. I hope we get to see Solo do the Kessel run.
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Please keep it on topic, and try not to turn it into a big issue. If you hate Star Wars / Disney / Lucas / whatever so much, you don’t need to take part in a thread about the wargaming or modelling potential of the movies. Thank you.
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I'd say the earlier point was that there is still hope for a series that has been going on for a while can still have quality sequels. I haven't gotten to see Last Jedi yet, but I loved Rogue One, and there is plenty of wargame potential in that film. The franchise won't have the same effect at 47 as it did at 6, but I can still get a taste of that sense of wonder.
I'll invest Solo w the same hope! :)
And if there is another Mad Max done a la Fury Road, count me in!!! Just watched it again today. Pure genius.
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I find that I actually like Star Wars stories more when they're not focusing on Force-users with their hokey religions so this certainly is looking to be very promising. :)
Plus I do have a decent lot of those old pre-painted Star Wars figures waiting for an excuse to come out...
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A lot of being an adult seems to involve politely pretending not to notice the elephant in the room.
There's an elephant in the room? I noticed a green thing in a jar behind the singer in the gold dress, but no elephant. I'm going to look harder next time.
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Not too sure about the monorail thingy but I suppose it depends on the context :)
Just for the coolness of it - and it is cool, isn´t it? :D I love it - a goods train on a roller coaster!!!
I wonder why nobody hasn´t mentioned that extraordinary sound/music yet. It is really outstanding from the usual orchestral SW soundtrack. It screams ACTION!!! to me. I have watched the teaser seven times now. Five times were for the sound.
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I loved the new characters in Force Awaken, found half the plot lazy and trite, hated Rogue One, ultimately disliked Last Jedi.... So.... I have zero expectations at this point. I cetainly wont rush to the cinema unless word is that is amazing. To be perfectly honest I think th fact that there are Lucasfilm staff running the show, who were Georges yes-men and enablers on the prequels, is a bad thing. I really would prefer to see them shuffled off with george, give the property to someone else.
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It certainly looks interesting enough to me to go and see. If it's anywhere near as enjoyable as I found Rogue One then it'll be worth it (to me at least). It may well give rise to some new models too.
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There's an elephant in the room? I noticed a green thing in a jar behind the singer in the gold dress, but no elephant. I'm going to look harder next time.
I didn't see an elephant either. :D
The full trailer is on line now. However good or bad it turns out to be, I'm sure it will inspire more SW games which can only be a good thing. ;D
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Another trailer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs)
Still can't see an elephant but there is a big squid thing in it.
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Okay... remember when we used to laugh at Alf Garnett/Archie Bunker/Alfred Tetzlaff (whichever works in your part of the world) and his rants about how the world wasn't like it used to be... that's where this thread is going.
;)
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I didn't see an elephant either. :D
I've seen it! I've seen it!!!!
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Just for the coolness of it - and it is cool, isn´t it? :D I love it - a goods train on a roller coaster!!!
I wonder why nobody hasn´t mentioned that extraordinary sound/music yet. It is really outstanding from the usual orchestral SW soundtrack. It screams ACTION!!! to me. I have watched the teaser seven times now. Five times were for the sound.
I’ll give it that, it certainly is cool (and a fair amount of potential both modelling and game wise). Now you mention it, the soundtrack does seem very good :)
Proper trailer looks bloody good as well :D
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Trigger warning, the falcon has a bit of structure between the 'mandibles'
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(http://nerdpai.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/lego-Solo-Uma-Hist%C3%B3ria-Star-Wars-Millennium-Falcon.jpg)
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There's an earlier trailer with some other scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqP_zdqi27Q
I wonder how Don Glover will do as Lando.
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Oh, that's whats-her-name. Without her dragons! :)
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I was left feeling very underwhelmed by the trailer. I'll still see it though.
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Oh, that's whats-her-name. Without her dragons! :)
Or her toaster.
I was left feeling very underwhelmed by the trailer. I'll still see it though.
Yes, and yes.
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why? Why would you see something that looks terrible?
Have you ever watched Reptilicus?
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Looks like there'll be some cool bounty hunter stuff in there, but there is no way I'm going to see this.
My childhood self still thinks Harrison Ford's Solo is the coolest guy in the universe. This film is going to turn the Solo character into an annoying ass-hat. Search your feelings, you know it to be pretty darn likely.
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why? Why would you see something that looks terrible?
Lots of reasons. I'm a fan. I know I'll end up enjoying it (I'm not so much of a fan that I pull apart every piece). My kids will want to see it so I'll take them. It was a trailer and cannot be judged upon that alone (although yes it is a good starting point). I've enjoyed every star wars movie despite Jar Jar and some other poor looking trailers. :)
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One of the problems with prequels is that the character progression from self-centred, mercenary arse-hat to hero is reset. If the film is well written and made, there may be a satisfactory character arc that shows why the shoot first and buy another drink character of Star Wars ended up that way, or you might end up with the nonsense that was the first three prequels.
Rogue One had the advantage of the background, a good story and was not really limited by existing canon. This lacks those advantages.
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I don't like the Solo actor... he looks a bit innocent(?).
Apart from that, it looks quite fun :) .
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One of the problems with prequels is that the character progression from self-centred, mercenary arse-hat to hero is reset. If the film is well written and made, there may be a satisfactory character arc that shows why the shoot first and buy another drink character of Star Wars ended up that way
I agree that it would be weird if Han is an all-out hero by the end of the film, but then this is set when he's a young man. He might already be bit of a scoundrel who's capable of doing the right thing every now and then. This film isn't going to take us up to New Hope when all he seems to care about is the big hairy fella and is capable of firing first.
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I'm not sure I agree.
Solo as a character is far more complex. He never really ever becomes a clear cut hero. He's a lovable rogue, but often makes choices that are far from heroic.
For me it will be interesting to see how those complexities were formed.
On the surface he tends to run from confrontation, blags his way out of tough spots and always seems to be on the run as a smuggler. Some might even call him cowardly.
Yet, during the films we see deeper aspects. Glimpses of the reluctant hero. Conflicted at times, vulnerable at others. It suggests the outward presentation is the tough front to a less confident softer side with hints at regret and failure.
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Just noticed this:
If you thought the Solo trailer was the big Star Wars news of the week, think again. Breaking news from the galaxy far, far away tells us that the creators of another fantasy epic, HBO’s Game of Thrones, will soon be working on a whole new series of Star Wars films.
According to StarWars.com, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will be writing and producing the new series of movies, which “will be separate from both the episodic Skywalker saga and the recently-announced trilogy being developed by Rian Johnson, writer-director of Star Wars: The Last Jedi.” That’s...a lot of Star Wars.
Obviously, there’s no timeline yet for these new films; the final season of Game of Thrones isn’t even airing until next year.
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Another trailer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs)
Still can't see an elephant but there is a big squid thing in it.
Obviously I am having trouble seeing the screen around this strange large grey obstruction with a trunk, but I think that looks god awful.
Anyway, from back when Star Wars was fun:-
https://youtu.be/NATeU-r0GDU
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lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
DAMN COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just a reminder: This movie is being made by a bunch of folks who will stand by the claim that Han did not in fact shoot first.
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I never got why they changed that. The guy was running loads of space Heroin for Jabba at the time FFS. If you made a film where the guy was flying c-130's full of coke for Pablo Escobar, would you really worry about who shot at who first in a scene. The guy is clearly morally bankrupt regardless of his draw speed!
I think it's fair to say that he isn't morally bankrupt . . . . . . at that point his moral compass is buried quite deep, but it's there.
I agree on who cares about who shot first. It would appear that Solo is avoiding Jabba at that point and he knows that it is kill or be taken to see him and face things like Rankor monsters . . . . .
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I imagine I'll probably see it. Not convinced by the change of director but will give it a chance. Apparently Ron Howard was brought in mid-way through production to suck out most of the humour from the film. I wouldn't have minded a smart funny take on Solo rather than a 'safe' film that keeps within its own lane but doesn't excite.
As for the leading man? Unconvinced. Personally I'd have like to have seen that guys who drives babies (and has a Golden Demon) get the gig.
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I don't like the Solo actor... he looks a bit innocent(?).
We cant all look the rapscallion handsome gent you pull off on a daily basis now can we Inso? :-)
Grimm
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I'm still vaguely hoping this will have a firefly vibe in the end. I mean there is a train to rob right?
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I always liked that Solo shot first. It made the change in him more apparent.
Greedo shooting first? Well he must have been a terrible bounty hunter to miss at point blank range, deserved to be shot.
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I always liked that Solo shot first. It made the change in him more apparent.
Greedo shooting first? Well he must have been a terrible bounty hunter to miss at point blank range, deserved to be shot.
This is star wars though . . . . . . all of the elite troopers on the Deathstar and not one of them could find their mark against a lumbering walking carpet, a rebel, a princess and a smuggler. Perhaps Qreedo made the mistake of using the same blaster supplier? lol
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You're right. In fact his was probably the closest shot of them all.
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This is star wars though . . . . . . all of the elite troopers on the Deathstar and not one of them could find their mark against a lumbering walking carpet, a rebel, a princess and a smuggler. Perhaps Qreedo made the mistake of using the same blaster supplier? lol
Shit helmets lol
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Jawas are small targets so they did well to hit all of them.
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Jawas are small targets so they did well to hit all of them.
True... and as Obi Wan points out... Stormtroopers are still more accurate than Sandpeople....he goes so far as to point out how precise they can aim... but maybe too many years in the desert sun has addled his brain.
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This has been mentioned before, but the stormtroopers were likely under orders after the first firefight not to hit the escapees.
Remember Vader's plan was to let them escape and track them.
That said, I didn't see Last Jedi and won't see Solo. Same as I don't bother with Marvel movies anymore.
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If you told me as a child that when i was 23 there would be new star wars and Jurassic park films IN THE SAME YEAR, I'd have wept at being made to wait that long.
Now the franchise fatigue and endless cashing in on nostalgia has caused me to not care about these films. Sure you might say they're for a new generation of fans, but I think it's unfair to only offer new fans hand me downs that are tied to old franchises for marketability.
If this movie was called "Space ranger Mcaw (As it very almost is in china) and stripped of its star wars packaging then the trailer would have dropped like a turd in the night.
The Jurassic world trailer actually sort of upsets me for reasons too long and boring to list.
But it seems this is the point i'm at, I'm sad at new movies coming out because instead of being able to conjure up the excitement i want to feel at seeing something I love, I've been so bombarded with these franchises over the last few years that I just don't care anymore.
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Nerds have destroyed their own culture. They are stupid, they will insist on having something until it is ruined.
What Disney is doing to Star Wars has remarkably little to do with the desires of the audience.
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What Disney is doing to Star Wars has remarkably little to do with the desires of the audience.
I'm sure lots of 'fans' said the same about Lucas.
I'm pretty happy with all the Disney efforts so far. Top of the shop being Rogue One. The Solo trailer has got my interest.
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I'm sure lots of 'fans' said the same about Lucas.
I'm pretty happy with all the Disney efforts so far. Top of the shop being Rogue One. The Solo trailer has got my interest.
Bang on. Disney aren't stupid, they bought Lucasfilm because they knew there would be an audience for more Star Wars films and they could make money from it. Clearly if you believe they should not have made more SW movies then you're not their audience. I think Disney got the right talent in have done a great job so far, but I guess there will always be the diehards, sat in their caves, clutching their VHS copies of the unremastered original trilogy to their chests, rocking as they mutter "Han fired first" over and over again.....
Solo might prove to be a straightforward heist movie but will still hopefully be entertaining despite the behind the scenes antics.
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My comment from before seems to have been deleted?
All I stated was that some people are just repeating the exact same opinion over and over - which is fine, but not half tiring. Some comments are just bewildering.
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Too much angst over here.
My comment from before seems to have been deleted?
All I stated was that some people are just repeating the exact same opinion over and over - which is fine, but not half tiring. Some comments are just bewildering.
It seems that some people are just trying to bait others to get a reaction on this thread and just repeating the same thing again and again is rather annoying and childish, I agree.
It is only a film trailer......nothing to get too upset about, surely.
If you do not like it, do not watch it.
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This looks decent enough. I hope we get to see Solo do the Kessel run.
I wonder if that will be the bit at the end of the main trailer?
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It'll be interesting to see if they try and explain the whole Kessel Run - parsecs thing.
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Scurv, the point isn't that people are not to have their say, but they have had it and are repeating it over and over.
It's unwarranted and Mason is correct, it's really not that big a deal.
I think it's fair to say that most people have already been able to see that you think the franchise is "a flogged horse" - that was before your latest post. And that's the point.
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To change a mood a little..
I thing Rogue one is best thing ever done in Star Wars franchise.
And I am waiting for Solo even reading all of the negative anticipations.
Fringe starship crews are just my thing maybe (I believe Ive tried* to watch every tv series with starship crews made in the world lol )
While I don't expect it to be Firefly quality, let be honest - event Serenity wasn't Firefly quality.
But I expect to have a lot of fun there. Even wooden actors can be cool sometimes ( remember Vin Disell! :)
*And failed with some... but I tried - I am desperate for this genre :)
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Yeah :)
I think I do prefer the films that tend to be ‘light’ in the Force (no pun intended).
Plenty of inspiration though. Even the Last Jedi has inspiration for gaming ;)
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Whole force thing is so easy to use and essential to star wars "thing" that IMHO it make movies sloppy scenariowise.
Why bother when we can have force.. and then X because of force.. and so on..
Less force the better for a story.
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Well, there’ll be no hokey religions in this one :)
I am wondering if there will be a space battle in a similar vein to the other films or whether it’s going to be low key. I suspect the latter.
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now now, they CAN hit the side of a sandcrawler..........in good light at close range........
Well if they were inside the sandcrawler maybe..
And nobody opened a window..
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Personally, I'm...in.
The trailer has a lot of great visuals, though I can see it being really hampered with the two main actors/actresses both being really poor at their job. Those alone could seriously tank it. I approve that it's being touted as a heist movie - that's always a plus. I do think this could have been a real break-out role for a better younger actor and there are plenty around who have some acting chops.
I vastly approve of the more Rogue One feel to the trailer (a movie which outshined both the latest "saga" movies). I'll see it, but my guess is it'll sit beneath Rogue One and well above most of the other films.
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There is something magic about that song. Everything gets cooler with that playing.
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I agree that everything is better with Sabotage :)
But that trailer is just meant for it..
Seriously, now I am waiting for Solo with breathless anticipation ;P
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Good or bad, i´m sure the movie will bring us lots of ideas. ;D
Bring Solo and anything else you have...
"I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS..."
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Surprising what a change of music can do...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TPY4TKo6uQ&feature=youtu.be
Now all of a sudden I find myself excited by it!
Only now heard this, man that's great! :-*
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I am not certain how much to expect from this film, but I will certainly see it. I loved Rogue One much more than I expected I would, so I do hold out some hope for Solo.
What galls me is Disney's scaling back of its toy offerings for the new films, especially for Rogue One and The Last Jedi, especially regarding the series useful for war gaming. After a brief return, the SW: Micro Machines line appears to be cancelled, the Titanium vehicle series has gone the same way. The Hot Wheels series is still around, but its offerings for these films have been underwhelming to non-existent. No Hammerhead corvettes or other Rebel capital ships from Scarif? No Raddus flagship or First Order flagship from TLJ? No new Star Wars Risk-themed offerings? Come on, Disney! Big kids needs those toys, dammit! :D ;D ;)
Seriously, regardless of whether I personally enjoy the film, I hope we get some good toys out of it! Would love to see GF9 do a Star Wars: Solo reskin of their excellent Firefly board game...
In my dreams. Sigh.
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I did see some TLJ toys in the pound shop the other day. There were two x-wings, an a-wing, Ren’s tie fighter, a normal tie fighter, the falcon (of course) and the resistance bomber (which is an excellent design but woefully misused).
I didn't pick any up though as they don't fit with the scales I like to game with.
I hope they bring out some of the speeders though from Solo as they look very generic and useful.
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What galls me is Disney's scaling back of its toy offerings for the new films, especially for Rogue One and The Last Jedi,
This must be a first - a complaint that there's not enough toy tie-ins with Star Wars :o lol
Would love to see GF9 do a Star Wars: Solo reskin of their excellent Firefly board game...
In my dreams. Sigh.
Yeah, this would be, I suggest, unlikely as Fantasy Flight/Asmodee have the SW licence sewn up pretty tight and are getting really good use from it.
I pre ordered the Brigands and Browncoats game (will post some sort of review once I've played it a few more times) but am still mildly surprised it doesn't some how work in conjunction with the other GF9 Firefly game.
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Actually the toys are doing really badly. Kids prefer video games these days. And the adult collectors are not showing up to buy the last Jedi toys in the numbers they used to. My advice is to pick up some Last Jedi figures if you are into collecting. They might become somewhat rare in time.
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Actually the toys are doing really badly. Kids prefer video games these days. And the adult collectors are not showing up to buy the last Jedi toys in the numbers they used to. My advice is to pick up some Last Jedi figures if you are into collecting. They might become somewhat rare in time.
There's a few theories that star wars toys have NEVER sold as well as people think, and that the reason they flood shelves is that star wars is assosciated with film toys because of the way the first film initially kicked off the craze.
When i was a kid i had HUNDREDS of star wars toys. you know why? Because in 2002 i could walk into a little poundshop in loughborough and walk out with ten brand new figures for £1 because they were over produced to the point of becoming worthless. I still have a draw in young anakins somewhere...
the toys hold no value ,the collectors don't want them because they aren't good quality and they've been over produced to the point that none of them are worth buying. The way toys are marketed means nothing save for misprints or weird pre release figures will be worth anything in the future.
And they cost too much for kids to actually buy! the companies hold back stock of the main characters to increase demand, But in the mean time no child is going to walk into a shop and say "OH BOY, GENERAL HUX! I want to spend my saved pocket money on a £15 figure of that guy!"
So who is the market for them? Mostly parents around christmas, But after that they just languish on shelves. I can easily see them all being shipped back and recarded from film to film.
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To be fair, most of the figures that are worth good money from the original run of figures tended to be factory misprints or colour variations. There are some genuinely rare ones that were produced but only in very small numbers, otherwise, unless they are in packets, most of your original star wars figures are still only worth a couple of whatever currency still.
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I think the whole Kenner Star Wars phenomenon was an anomaly that no one expected and that toy companies have tried to replicate ever since. The current offering of toys is probably ‘about right’ but I also agree that the faster kids grow up these days means playing with figures probably only has a small window of opportunity to get people hooked.
I used to love my old Kenner figs and didn’t care who ‘stood in’ for who! My Han Solo was always a ROTJ Luke lol I even used to freeze him inside a glass of water and spend ages melting him out.
Sick of seeing those ‘Constable Zuvio’ figures from Episode 7 in the local B&M lol
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Sick of seeing those ‘Constable Zuvio’ figures from Episode 7 in the local B&M lol
Buy em all, they could be the next pruneface! lol
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To stay on the main topic:
I doubt I will like this movie, but will watch it just the same. I don't watch much of the new release SW movies either, they have no staying power for repeat viewing.
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From my perspective the toys are a mess because they have no clue what they're trying to sell and to whom. Australian perspective, overseas will vary.
There is not a single B&M store within 1.5hrs drive of me selling ANYTHING from the latest Wave 2 Hasbro releases. I have the same expectation for the upcoming Solo releases. I have to get my stuff from specialist e-tailers, and even Australian e-tailers are very thin on the ground with some limited stock on certain items.
Hasbro has a habit of releasing figures that didn't make the movies.
Cases in point:
First Order Snowspeeder - cool and useful at least.
Finn speeder vehicle
Constable Zuvio
Moroff (From the Rogue 1 Scarif 2 pack)
Cardboard characters that appeared for less than 2 seconds and have no bearing on anything:
Sarco Plankk
PZ-4CO
Hassk thug
Pao (Rogue 1) - though cool of no real part in the movie
Bistan - though cool of no real part in the movie
Sidon Itano and Quiggold - though cool of no real part in the movie
Stormtroopers from Rogue1 and TFA disappeared promptly, anything white armour always vanishes. The fact that TFA was flogging off figures not even in the movie, and in high numbers tells me they aren't aware of what is selling specifically. For sure, vast numbers of Roses, and the quirky figs from TFA are still on the shelves at bargain prices. It's hardly surprising no one wants them. In the reverse, numbers of other figures were never available locally. Figures like Galen, Raddus, Sefla, Krennic and a few others from R1. Try to pick up the Vader/Probe Bot two pack is tough and expensive, but the Rathtar pack is all over the place at cheap prices if you look.
They released a Scarif trooper pack with the big white thing that wasn't even in the movie, but try and pick up a single Scarif shore trooper pack (apparently they did those, they just never turned up here) and you pay for it. I can now buy the Scarif 2 pack cheaper than buying a single trooper if i can find one. I have 4 of those big white things, no idea what I'll do with them. At least now I do have some Scarif shore troopers.
No one locally stocked some of the bigger items. The A-Wing & the Canto Bight speeder were available only from Toys R Us if you go in store. Order on line and it's a blind bag purchase with the two, why would you blind bag something that big? Luckily for me one of the local stores eventually (about 3 months after initial release) picked up a small stock of Kylo. I made a 3hr trip back at first release to go to the nearest Toys R Us to make sure I got an A-Wing, Kylo ship, and Vader/Probe bot 2 pack, or else I would have missed out. As a customer, that's pretty sad.
How many more versions of Rey, Poe & Luke in the same outfit do we need? Watch out Solo movie, they're releasing another Luke in robe along with K-2SO. At least the next release has 2 sets of new white armour in it. Bet they sell out instantly.
If you want to recreate scenes from the movies, you can't, because there are huge gaps in the obvious characters that could sell.
Want a R1 Scarif rebel force? You can get everyone except grunts. It would have been nice if they did say a 4 pack of grunt troopers, with a 4 pack of opposing Shore troopers, or the one R1 4 pack they released didn't have the same damn figure of Jyn in it that you buy singly and instead had something different.
Why can't there be generic First order officers and rebels. Want to recreate the Crait battle, can't, but you can buy a crait speeder, but no rebel troopers who manned the trenches and who mysteriously never made it back inside to the Falcon. You can buy a Crait 4 pack that has Rey again in that same damn outfit you could have bought several times in earlier releases and of course a Rose you only need one of ever, if at all. The plus side for the pack is the First Order gunner and snow trooper in a grey outfit. The pack would have been so much better if it ditched the two characters and replaced them with 2 generic rebels. It would have sold so well because you'd buy multiples. Why buy multiples of Rey and Rose? Waste, total waste.
My perspective is they still do not know who they're selling to. It should be to people who want to fire their imagination and play with the toys, not people who want to buy a Rey in a purple packed set and a Rey in a green misprint packed set. Check out the new Vintage Collection previews, another Rey in the same damn outfit, Kylo too and Jyn. At least there is another first order trooper, exactly the same as the rest. The only positive is the first appearance of Snokes and classic Hoth rebel trooper which I am sure will sell out fast.
I also believe they slightly burnt them selves with pricing for the TFA releases expecting money just because it's Star Wars, and the scalpers and ebay guys on top of that over priced things to hell. I don't believe the figures are worth the price they're asking, and a drop in price would be very helpful as well. Depending on the retailer, I've seen markups as high as 200%. If the price dropped on useful figures, they'd shift alot better and become more widely bought and played with. The figures that are also 'rare' being scalp priced excessively out of the box is also pretty sad.
They accidentally hit on a good thing, and still have no idea what it is they hit on. As a customer of the franchise, it frustrates the hell out of me.
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New trailer has landed and I'm liking it even more :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPEYpryMp2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPEYpryMp2s)
It would appear that the Falcon does get won from Lando but going by previous trailers it might not actually happen that way lol
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Looking good!
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It does :)
Bandai have already got a 1/144 Falcon from the film coming out soon 8)
http://bandai-hobby.net/sw/jp/products/millenniumfalcon_landocalrissian.html (http://bandai-hobby.net/sw/jp/products/millenniumfalcon_landocalrissian.html)
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Like the presumed way the narrative is going, by the trailer. A criminal gang vs Criminal gang. not just a fight vs the Emprire.
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That looks a whole lot better than the first trailer. And I also like the idea of it not focusing on the empire (although it may still do that)
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Interesting.
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Well, that looks bloody good!
:-* :-*
In fact, that trailer is already better than The Last Pile of Cack Jedi and it is only a couple of minutes long.
:D
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That guy is quite convincing when in doubt who shot first... lol
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Looks good, though it's another trailer which shows probably a bit too much.
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Bandai have already got a 1/144 Falcon from the film coming out soon 8)
http://bandai-hobby.net/sw/jp/products/millenniumfalcon_landocalrissian.html (http://bandai-hobby.net/sw/jp/products/millenniumfalcon_landocalrissian.html)
Great; I had to slog through 7 pages of 'It's gonna be great' vs 'It's gonna suck' to see if anyone had already commented on the detachable part between the Falcon's mandibles, as in the Bandai model that OSHIROmodels linked to.
Turns out, nobody did...
So I'm going to; my favorite theory is that it's sort of a connector, allowing YT series ships to attach to large containers, in order to move them:
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/3/3c/YT_freight_pusher.jpg)
I mean; as much I have always adored the Millennium Falcon and the Legends fluff behind the YT-1300 and all its derivatives and predecessors, I've always wondered how anyone in their right mind could be able to call these ships freighters! In the X-Wing and TIE-Fighter PC games, there were plenty of containerships, modular conveyors etc to see how a proper space faring transport should look, volumewise.
After all, even in the SW universe, where spacefaring is as common as atmospheric flight is to us, it makes no sense not optimising transport capacities; space travel may be common, but it still won't be cheap! So having a 25T to 100T internal cargo capacity on a ship with even the power to weight ration of a stock YT-1300 (let's assume there actually is such a thing ;) ) would be incredibly inefficient. I mean; current trucks and trailers are allowed to weigh up to 50T here in the Netherlands, which roughly translates to a cargo capacity of nearly 40T, already more than the lower end of a YT-1300!
Therefore, should a ship of such capabilities be able to push a much larger cargo container, it would make that much more sense.
All of this going with the idea that a ship is a dedicated cargo vessel of course. Should we look at, for instance, a YT-1300P, which is a dedicated personnel transport, things would be different. Living, sentient cargo (I'm going to refrain from using the word 'Human' of course) is much more valuable than bulk cargo and could therefore be transported in such an expensive vessel.
So; in my opinion, if a YT-1300 were actually a self-contained transport ship with no capacity for pushing along larger volumes of cargo, it should be considered a galactic equivalent of a smallish delivery van!
In the Legends universe, there are of course plenty of clues to this, as we only have to look at the YT-2000 or center cockpit versions of the venerable YT-1300, and it's clear that those will never be pushing containers. But then; those could be the 'P' (personnel) versions so often mentioned.
Other theories state that it's either a life pod (there was mention of a pocket-fighter docked between the mandibles in several sources, although it looked more like the Crysalis life pod from Alien. there even was a toy version I believe? I certainly cannot determine any cockpit windows, which seem to be standard in SW ships), an aerodynamic cover to improve atmospheric flight characteristics, something purely cosmetic, giving the ship a sleeker profile (which would fit with Lando's personality), or perhaps a seperate cargo pod (which could explain how Han and Chewie actually ejected Jabba's spice cargo).
What do you think?
+++EDIT+++ Having taken another look at the Bandai kit pre-production pictures, I fear my favorite theory is probably obsolete already: in the few pictures that show the detachable part between the mandibles, one can clearly see engine exhausts on the back of the object.
So it's more than likely a life pod or pocket-fighter after all. my money is on life pod though, because it looks a bit underwhelming as an actual fighter (no weapons, no cockpit)...
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anyway I'll still have to do cosplay for my son
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/52/10/20/00220.jpg) >:( lol lol
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like it
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What do you think?
To me the light freighters from the SW universe were always the equivalent to our (European) universe's white vans...
They have turbo charged 3litre engines with 150+ hp, run faster than most small cars and weigh 3.5tons with a payload of no more than 1.5 to 2 tons.
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To me the light freighters from the SW universe were always the equivalent to our (European) universe's white vans...
They have turbo charged 3litre engines with 150+ hp, run faster than most small cars and weigh 3.5tons with a payload of no more than 1.5 to 2 tons.
Exactly this. Add the deep-space equivelent of wolf-whistling women as they fly past and not indicating before making a turn. ;-)
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Daeothar thats a interesting theory.
Since the Millenium Falcon is classed as a cargo/transport ship i vote for the containers. :)
Yes Daeothar. I´ve read all your text... :D ;D
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'Oo's dis James, guv? lol
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Deleted. A bit too late to the discussion
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lol lol lol
Daeothar, my apologises.
Corrected.
I was so distracted with some stuff from Oshiro that i ended answering to you but using James name. o_o
But the answer is the same... :D
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I rather liked the look of that latest trailer.
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lol lol lol
Daeothar, my apologises.
Corrected.
I was so distracted with some stuff from Oshiro that i ended answering to you but using James name. o_o
But the answer is the same... :D
lol
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James dont laugh.
Your new stuff is tempting/distracting me. ;D lol
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James dont laugh.
Your new stuff is tempting/distracting me. ;D lol
Just buy some then you won't be distracted anymore lol
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While I don't expect it to be Firefly quality, let be honest - event Serenity wasn't Firefly quality.
I know I'm flying against the grain and pissing uphill into a strong wind (and mixing my phrasing) but I sort of agree. It wasn't firefly quality ... it was better than the series that spawned it. :p
Also killed off a couple of the major cast so that it couldn't be resurrected (something that should have happened to X-files, too).