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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: MattW on March 25, 2018, 09:59:26 AM

Title: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: MattW on March 25, 2018, 09:59:26 AM
Thought this map might interest some here:

(https://i.imgur.com/zVfns5k.jpg)
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Plynkes on March 25, 2018, 10:13:39 AM
Whoever named their state The Military Dictatorship of Mughan is badly in need of a spin-doctor. Either that or they just don't give a shit. lol


Googling...


Oh dear, seems it was us. That figures.  ;)

Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Ignatieff on March 25, 2018, 10:40:51 AM
Whoever named their state The Military Dictatorship of Mughan is badly in need of a spin-doctor. Either that or they just don't give a shit. lol


Googling...


Oh dear, seems it was us. That figures.  ;)


hahahahaha!  Cracking map by the way
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Captain Blood on March 25, 2018, 11:28:48 AM
That is a wonderful, fascinating thing...
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Metternich on March 26, 2018, 10:45:11 PM
The Free Territory looks like a fun place to be !
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Johnno on March 26, 2018, 11:03:02 PM
Is it wrong that I want to build forces for each?  o_o

So many possibilities!
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: marianas_gamer on March 27, 2018, 08:01:50 AM
Great map thanks! Johnno, don't you have some Chinese to paint? lol
Lon
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: MattW on March 27, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
Glad some of you got a kick out of it.

I recently read Miéville’s “October”, and it has me interested in yet another period...  o_o
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Sir Rodney Ffing on March 27, 2018, 11:19:44 AM
A very informative map, and thank you for posting it!  Now if only it had a few more city names on it, to help those of us who don't know their Astrakhan's from their Ashkhabad's  o_o
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Metternich on March 27, 2018, 12:36:46 PM
And areas like the Baltic Duchy and Finland give German Freikorps units a chance to join in the game (and fight for/against them, as well as fight against Bolshevik forces).
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Johnno on March 31, 2018, 03:17:00 AM
Great map thanks! Johnno, don't you have some Chinese to paint? lol
Lon

I'm working on it... lol
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Leapsnbounds on April 01, 2018, 03:06:19 AM
Where's Tannu Tuva
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: elefant66 on April 04, 2018, 12:04:53 PM
Nice map and flags,  but i see the Trans - Caspian government  is missing.

 Always wondered what flag it would have had, Russian or Turkmen cresent flag.
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Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: AzSteven on April 04, 2018, 06:04:51 PM
Is it wrong that I want to build forces for each?  o_o

So many possibilities!

I hope its not wrong because that was my first glance reaction too!
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Mark Plant on April 05, 2018, 05:52:28 AM
I hope its not wrong because that was my first glance reaction too!

You could build most of these state's armies very quickly. They were ephemeral for a reason!

Some Whites, Freikorps, Cossacks and Basmachis would give the rest. I already can field almost all of them.

Most of the small interesting armies are missing because they never declared statehood. Semenov, Grigoriev, Urals Cossacks etc, even though they were in practice independent.
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: AzSteven on April 05, 2018, 11:46:59 PM
You could build most of these state's armies very quickly. They were ephemeral for a reason!

Some Whites, Freikorps, Cossacks and Basmachis would give the rest. I already can field almost all of them.

Most of the small interesting armies are missing because they never declared statehood. Semenov, Grigoriev, Urals Cossacks etc, even though they were in practice independent.

Honestly, I was thinking that I might just do officer/color parties for each one, and otherwise use my existing Red and White troops - especially the Whites since many of my Reds have big honking red stars on their headgear
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Johnno on April 06, 2018, 01:45:33 AM
My thoughts exactly...
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: sukhe_bator on April 06, 2018, 08:47:28 AM
TransCaspia
The crescent and star motif was common with nationalist movements in Russian Central Asia so I have used the Alash Autonomy flag (Red field with yellow crescent and star) with the initials of the Trans Caspian Provisional Government for Transcaspia
The Tashkent Soviet adopted the Turkestan ASSR flag;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkestan_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Mark Plant on April 06, 2018, 05:52:58 PM
Honestly, I was thinking that I might just do officer/color parties for each one, and otherwise use my existing Red and White troops - especially the Whites since many of my Reds have big honking red stars on their headgear

How do you think I field most? My Red Guards also double as Latvian Nationalists and Polish Volunteers. My Freikorps are Poznan Poles in their other days.

You would need ones in Cherkessa for the Caucasians.
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 07, 2018, 06:11:50 AM
Mark,
I agree that Semenov is one of the more interesting armies to play.
Lon
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Andreas Johansson on April 24, 2018, 01:12:44 PM
Where's Tannu Tuva
Theoretically independent until 1944 so insufficiently ephemeral?
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Red Orc on May 20, 2018, 01:29:01 AM
Nice map and flags,  but i see the Trans - Caspian government  is missing.

 Always wondered what flag it would have had, Russian or Turkmen cresent flag.
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Been wondering this myself. Info is sadly lacking.
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: Mark Plant on May 21, 2018, 08:37:25 AM
I can't see Mensheviks flying a Tsarist colour. Nor an ethnic one that was religious in origin.

My money would be on the Transcaspians flying the Red Flag, like KOMUCH did, as their official flag.
Title: Re: Ephemeral States of the Russian Civil War
Post by: sukhe_bator on May 23, 2018, 03:37:48 PM
That's what I've gone for with my TransCaspian forces...