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Title: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on April 15, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
After considering my painting and building talents I actually decided to start a blog here at Lead Adventure. I actually planned on not doing a blog, because posting and building/painting sort of have to be done at the same time. But this might add something to the fun I guess.

The first couple of posts will be of ships made and done some time ago. Not all will be posted at the same time to prevent flooding the first page with photos.


Once upon a time in de Netherlands I wanted to try a game called Legends of the High Seas. Then (2015-ish?) the game was allready out of print and I wanted to test it without spending to much (sure sure) on the first ship. Searching the web I found wooden puzzles that could actually fit my need of a ship about 8 to 10 inches long 3 inches wide and big enough to hold 28mm models.


The first puzzle to arrive was the Golden Hinde.
(https://i.imgur.com/6ZB2Ajhl.jpg)
I actually assembled the ship three times before I decided how to proceed with the build. I started with cutting away everything under the waterline. After that I reinforced the still fragile hull by replacing the bottom with MDF instead of a the triplex plate, and making MDF blocks to eventually receive the masts and bowsprite. The masts are so strong now I can pick up the model at the mast hold it up side down or even swing it around without anything breaking off. A true overkill achieved with this build.
(https://i.imgur.com/aubJLqhl.jpg)
The masts are 9mm wood dowels with magnets attached to them. Making attaching and removing sails during play very easy.
(https://i.imgur.com/Krjm7Q9l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AiazAr4l.jpg)
Pimping the sides with paper and cardboard is very easy with a wooden ship.
(https://i.imgur.com/rCaJ5VKl.jpg)
Painting the model as a small, agile little Galleon.
(https://i.imgur.com/G0yg4JJl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3kTx9pkl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A3WFaQLl.jpg)
Small gundeck.
(https://i.imgur.com/u3rslzhl.jpg)
Here the finished product with some GW models on deck.
(https://i.imgur.com/8IgqFoll.jpg)



Being some kind of hoarding monster on the projects dear to me it was only a matter of time when my collecting virus would turn the single build into an assembly line where I am again building and building..
(https://i.imgur.com/lyMwO5sl.jpg)
Same procedure as with the "Hinde" although I quickly learned at the Hinde that drilling a 9mm hole (with a powerfulle electrical device) it is not wise to hold the product you want to drill in youre hand. I bought me two couples of clamps to save me skin.
(https://i.imgur.com/kFch3u6l.jpg)
Masts with magnets attached.
(https://i.imgur.com/fAfthqpl.jpg)
Ship with sails made ready to get painted.
(https://i.imgur.com/KpDOsL1l.jpg)
The bussiness end of a sailing vessel, it’s broadside.
(https://i.imgur.com/1JsPnURl.jpg)
Painted up to make a spooky dark piratey ship
(https://i.imgur.com/ISCn09Rl.jpg)
and with models for size.
(https://i.imgur.com/siUrFxzl.jpg)

Cheers this is it for now. I hope you enjoy the post.

Henerius



Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Duke Donald on April 15, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
These ships look good fine and seem adequate for gaming as their is a reasonable amount of space on the deck.

Concerning Legends of the High Seas (LotHS), I wouldn't feel too sorry that you couldn't source. it. It's a nice book and there are a few good ideas for a campaign. However, it is essentially the Mordheim (or Lords of Rings) rules, which can be downloaded for free, with a slightly better game balance. These rules feel very dated now and offer only very limited tactical options.

LotHS is also focused on skirmishes on land and the ship rules are minimalistic to say the least. I feel you would be better off buying the Ganesha Flashing Steel rules or even use Pulp Alley, with or without some modifications to adapt to the period.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on April 15, 2018, 10:51:25 PM
Sounds good. Besides Legends of the High Seas I purchased a game of fantasy pirating whoes name eludes me right now, furthermore I puchased blood n plunder. ... what these games have in common is shiping rules. [edit] the game that I did not remember: Pirates! Miniature Battles on the High Seas 3rd edition - by Flagship Games.  [/edit]

Legends has indeed the LOTR engine combined with the necromunda campaign mechanism. Not very detailed perhaps but it does serve a need. The shipping mechanics are  indeed crude but workable, the blood n plunder shipping rules look more promising.

Do flashing steel or pulp alley have shiping rules? Because these are what I would be after, there seem to be a dozen or so swash buckling games on the market. But most lack shipping rules.


Anyway...  Since most ships are produced somehow the same with minor differences I will just put the end product here.
Two more puzzles: the Seewolf and the Berlin.
(https://i.imgur.com/ucroyOkm.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hQhAp5Xm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ep5ZtEnh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/euLxxvlh.jpg)
Games of War pirate supplies two ships and three boats.
(https://i.imgur.com/7KWu3P4h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GnYxSYyh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NwdL1XLh.jpg)
Picture below a Geboom ship and above (the tiny one) a boat of Geboom
(https://i.imgur.com/3hj4lhlh.jpg)
Sofar the painted and build fleet.

Some photo’s of “De Hoop” in action during a day long game of Legends of the High Seas in September. A very enjoyable game to play.
(https://i.imgur.com/d9TNqlzl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dS0YXg4l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eolXOnll.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G8XJ4p5l.jpg)


Here an overview / size comparison of several ship I have now.
(https://i.imgur.com/afUyzjXl.jpg)

And now we arrive in the moment of time we are right now. Building the masts of all resin ships in one go. Going to post images of the ships separate when they are done.
(https://i.imgur.com/xoZxHhnl.jpg)

So.. end of the flood of pics. Now I see how fast / slow I will finish one of the unfinished ones...

Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: dberna67 on April 18, 2018, 10:28:52 AM
Hi,
please can you write each ship in the overview / size comparison photo where it does come from ?

The last three ones from the right are they the wooden puzzles?

Thank you
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: zippyfusenet on April 18, 2018, 01:29:59 PM
What a handsome and very functional fleet of wargaming models. Well done, that man.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on April 19, 2018, 12:56:47 AM
Thank you!

and the request is no longer a request.
(https://i.imgur.com/aRZcVtG.jpg)
1 Caribic Castle (puzzle)
2 Man o War (Ainsty)
3 Frigate (Firelock)
4 Berlin (puzzle)
5 Merchant (Ainsty)
6 Merchant (Ainsty)
7 Brig (Firelock)
8 Sloop (Firelock)
9 Golden Hind (Puzzle)
10 Sloop (Ainsty)
11 Merchant Vessel (Geboom)
12 Sea Dog (Games of War)
13 Sea Dog (Games of War)
A Row Boat (Ainsty)
B Jolly Boat (Games of War)
C Jolly Boat (Games of War)
D Pup or Sea Pup? (Games of War) OOP? it's no longer on the site.
E Long Boat 3X (Firelock)
F Long Boat (Games of War)
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Poiter50 on April 19, 2018, 02:25:26 AM
Link to the Caribic Castle?
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on April 19, 2018, 01:00:57 PM
youre best bet is google-fu.

at curiocityonline.com they seem to sell a similar ship (Pirate Ship wooden puzzle) for 8,98 dollar
at focalprice.com they ask 19,99 dollar for ( Black Sail Pirate Ship) which looks as it is the Caribic Castle.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Hammers on April 19, 2018, 01:46:54 PM
Thank you!

and the request is no longer a request.
(https://i.imgur.com/aRZcVtG.jpg)
1 Caribic Castle (puzzle)
2 Man o War (Ainsty)
3 Frigate (Firelock)
4 Berlin (puzzle)
5 Merchant (Ainsty)
6 Merchant (Ainsty)
7 Brig (Firelock)
8 Sloop (Firelock)
9 Golden Hind (Puzzle)
10 Sloop (Ainsty)
11 Merchant Vessel (Geboom)
12 Sea Dog (Games of War)
13 Sea Dog (Games of War)
A Row Boat (Ainsty)
B Jolly Boat (Games of War)
C Jolly Boat (Games of War)
D Pup or Sea Pup? (Games of War) OOP? it's no longer on the site.
E Long Boat 3X (Firelock)
F Long Boat (Games of War)

Dear Lord! That's like the Spanish Armada!
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Poiter50 on April 19, 2018, 02:49:17 PM
Thank you.

youre best bet is google-fu.

at curiocityonline.com they seem to sell a similar ship (Pirate Ship wooden puzzle) for 8,98 dollar
at focalprice.com they ask 19,99 dollar for ( Black Sail Pirate Ship) which looks as it is the Caribic Castle.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on April 20, 2018, 05:26:14 PM
Dear Lord! That's like the Spanish Armada!
Actually I am Dutch.  lol
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: zippyfusenet on April 21, 2018, 04:27:54 AM
Nobody expects the Spanish Armada.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Munindk on April 24, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
I've got a couple of those puzzle ships somewhere in the pile, its nice to see how they compare to B&P ships.

Do you use a table or just spread a blue tarp on the floor? :)
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on May 02, 2018, 02:18:51 AM
I've got a couple of those puzzle ships somewhere in the pile, its nice to see how they compare to B&P ships.

Do you use a table or just spread a blue tarp on the floor? :)
Table! Really a table, no blue tarp... unless the tarp is on the table.

Sunday.. 29 April Sint Niklaas Belgium... HQ gaming club.
A Scots pirate and two Belgian pirates pretending to be dutch, a Dutch governor pretending to be French...and a GM for some twists and turns to have fun with...
(https://i.imgur.com/GdArQuJh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CXKIYQBh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZkuhQwch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cQifYWjh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4Ad4QqAh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nTeiUglh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RcQleoXh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9eW77D9h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Bw6AVa7h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tfCdMesh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IuvRY4Th.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tnUpF6Ch.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ElBXV3jh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lgEQjWlh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dUP3SSfh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qZMrT0bh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7WWadkbh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UrrCixfh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QbYQpc2h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HNfCj3ih.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k1vb2amh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zJQHk80h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7Xgmjuwh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OWB17HQh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/43j18i6h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3ejQJXyh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WnfEO7Oh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4YrvFXrh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nRTM10hh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/73hE6k3h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1KKPRuvh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6WHqxF2h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PNhikHCh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1sox26Dh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HtX3eDBh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5tQrJV7h.jpg)
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Marine0846 on May 02, 2018, 11:32:13 PM
Boy, what a project.
Outstanding photos.
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: 6milPhil on May 06, 2018, 03:23:51 PM
Actually I am Dutch.  lol

Related to Michiel de Ruyter perhaps?

Where did you get the metal porthole guns?
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on May 08, 2018, 05:23:48 AM
Games of War but I think they discontinued those half cannons.

Not a relative. Nope!
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: 6milPhil on May 08, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
That's just what a descendent of Michiel de Ruyter would say, tonight I line my 28mm out along the North Kent coast - just in case...

GoW seems to have dropped some great bits and pieces with the website redesign...
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: gamer Mac on May 08, 2018, 11:51:22 PM
Very nice set up :-* :-* :-*
I really like a big Pirate game
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: henerius on September 16, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
And time for an update I guess. :)




This first ship I build a while back and called it "blauwe Zeepaard" considering I was going to use it as a Dutch vessel.
Since I needed a colour scheme for my "French" and desided to take the colour scheme of the "Blauwe Zeepaard" and make it the one for my French vessels.
This made it necessary to rename her, bringing her probably nothing but bad luck during her gaming career.
(https://i.imgur.com/b2cIYRZh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UqyuHbjh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/22WBKdYh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z9XrZYZh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aRDcjPPh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eiDJFR8h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lzUMGEnh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/V3UybGAh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3sOCWHGh.jpg)

Further I have received back some models I have send for a commission since I am busy building and painting ships.
(https://i.imgur.com/q10Mleeh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FdYwaIBh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pijj2qmh.jpg)


So my spanish Blood n Plunder troops arrived back and I need one more ship for them and the sails... I need to tone them down, this is very yellow. The french fraction is being painted the vessels are allready finished. 

Next up a Spanish merchant.
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Byblos on September 16, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
Very interesting thanks !
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: gamer Mac on September 17, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
That a nice fleet of ships you are building there.
How about some close ups of the figures?
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: Papierschnitzel on September 18, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Impressive fleet!  :o
Title: Re: Ship building project
Post by: War Monkey on September 19, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
Very nice fleet you have there and terrain board too, I have been bitten by the "Pirate" bug and have been slowly working to get figures and materials together, I just hope it turns out as well as yours has.