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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Codsticker on May 11, 2018, 04:56:57 AM

Title: Perry's British Intervention Force (1861-68)???
Post by: Codsticker on May 11, 2018, 04:56:57 AM
So... this range... is it good for any real conflict or is it only really suitable for the 'What if' scenario the models were designed for?
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Post by: Poiter50 on May 11, 2018, 05:01:29 AM
Maori Wars?
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Post by: Will Bailie on May 11, 2018, 05:56:05 AM
Some of the figures would be useful for gaming Ridgeway or other Fenian raids into Upper Canada:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids

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Post by: Goliad on May 11, 2018, 06:37:11 AM
The Taranaki, Waikato and Tauranga campaigns in New Zealand around 1860 - 1865.
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Post by: Romark on May 11, 2018, 08:44:29 AM
Ambala campaign on the NWF. :)
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Post by: carlos marighela on May 11, 2018, 09:54:52 AM
Yup, the Fenian Raids, Ambela and the Maori Wars are the obvious ones but only if you pick the ones in frocks and forage caps.  At a pinch you could use the same figures for the Abyssinian Campaign as the serge frocks were used for part of the campaign of but you’d actually be better off using the old Perry sculpted Foundry range for China in airpipe helmets. They could be used to supplement the Foundry figures for China as well onbviously enough (2nd Opium War).

If you want alternative something that’s a bit more than pure fantasy, there’s always the ‘Pig War’ of 1859 which actually did see an armed stand-off between Britain and the US in the waters off British Colombia. Britain landed Royal Marines and the US sent a battalion. Could very easily have ended in tears.
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Post by: vodkafan on May 11, 2018, 10:56:11 AM
The lost expedition of 1865 through the hole in the North Pole into the interior of the Earth, of course!
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 11, 2018, 11:05:57 AM
I'm using mine for a 'what if' invasion of Japan. There were several regiments in China in the 1860's and it was quite a tense situation in Japan at the time.
Title: Re: Perry's British Intervention Force (1861-68)???
Post by: Codsticker on May 11, 2018, 04:02:24 PM
Some interesting ideas.... nothing that really grabs me right now though. Thank you for your replies.
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Post by: Arteis on May 11, 2018, 11:08:31 PM
I use them for my colonial New Zealand Wars army: https://arteis.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/colonial-new-zealand-wars-of-the-1860s/ (https://arteis.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/colonial-new-zealand-wars-of-the-1860s/)

Here's a sampling of some of the pics from the above link:

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0140_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0142_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0137_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0143_r.jpg)



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Post by: Will Bailie on May 12, 2018, 12:50:08 AM
Another 'what if' scenario that is not too much of a stretch is the Red River Expedition led by Garnet Wolseley in 1870.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolseley_expedition

The intent of the expedition was to put down the Red River Rebellion (1st Riel Rebellion) at Fort Garry (Winnipeg). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rebellion

 As it happened, Riel and his compatriots departed Fort Garry before Wolseley and Co arrived, but there could have been some action if Riel would have remained.  Wolseley is represented in the BIF command pack https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_81&products_id=3862&osCsid=0eam5bn6fmu6a5b78g1g3kmhj7




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Post by: Atheling on February 17, 2020, 12:09:31 PM
I use them for my colonial New Zealand Wars army: https://arteis.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/colonial-new-zealand-wars-of-the-1860s/ (https://arteis.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/colonial-new-zealand-wars-of-the-1860s/)

Here's a sampling of some of the pics from the above link:

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0140_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0142_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0137_r.jpg)

(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/img_0143_r.jpg)

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread but could I ask which packs you would avoid for a New Zealand Intervention Force please Arteis?

I'm fascinated by this conflict and would like to get some miniatures bought and get some games under my belt :)
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Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on February 22, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
I'm going to suggest toAlan Perry that he make a Surgeon William Manley figure for the Maori Wars.  Manley was the only person to have been awarded a VC (for rescuing wounded men during an attack on a pah in 1865) and then the Iron Cross (whilst heading an ambulance unit in the Franco-Prussian War).
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Post by: Shahbahraz on February 22, 2020, 11:08:22 AM
I'm going to suggest toAlan Perry that he make a Surgeon William Manley figure for the Maori Wars.  Manley was the only person to have been awarded a VC (for rescuing wounded men during an attack on a pah in 1865) and then the Iron Cross (whilst heading an ambulance unit in the Franco-Prussian War).

Thanks for that fascinating snippet!  Who knew eh? 
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Post by: Atheling on February 22, 2020, 12:41:52 PM
Thanks for that fascinating snippet!  Who knew eh?

Not I. My first serious history (I hope!) of the NZ Wars has just arrived, The New Zealand Wars: And the Victorian Interpretation of Racial Conflict, James Belich. It's near the top of my pile.....  :D
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Post by: Meier_Elf_Fanatic on October 24, 2022, 10:47:37 AM
I am very much up for some 'what if' action. After all, we have used army lists which pit opponents of a period but whom never met against each other for ages.

I have three ideas:

The expansion of the Trent Affair, as was feared... Lots of lovely Militia uniforms

An 1860s Falklands War

The Great Anglo Prussian War
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Post by: v_lazy_dragon on October 24, 2022, 12:30:16 PM
I'll throw something a bit different into the arena - various of the pacific north-western indigenous peoples were actively raiding along the pacific coast in the 1850's so they could also be a possible opponent.

From wikipedia
"Chilkat Tlingit warriors attacked and burned Fort Selkirk, the Hudson's Bay Company post at the juncture of the Yukon and Pelly Rivers, in 1852. The Chilkat had been middlemen between the company and the Athapaskan people of the interior (on preexisting trade routes), and were unwilling to be excluded from the arrangement.

In 1855, an alliance of Tongass Tlingit (Stikines) and Haida raided Puget Sound on an enslavement expedition. Confronted at Port Gamble, Washington Territory by the USS Massachusetts and other naval vessels, the raiders suffered casualties, included a Haida chief. A return expedition by the alliance the following year was punitive, with Isaac N. Ebey chosen at random as a high-ranking white man whose death would avenge the chief's death the previous year. Although the territorial government pressed the colonial government of Vancouver Island to apprehend Ebey's killer, the colonial authorities lacked a sufficient military capability to mount an expedition capable of defeating the Haida-Tlingit alliance, and Ebey's killer was never identified or captured"
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Post by: Redshank on October 24, 2022, 02:57:58 PM
I am using them for VSF on Mars, alongside Gringo 40s French Foreign Legion from their Maximilian range. But that is off topic for this board.