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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: Cubs on May 25, 2018, 09:48:51 AM
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Okay, I've actually put it down now, so I kind of have to do it.
I've had this idea in the back of my mind for ages to grab some of the old Runequest models I played with as a kid (they all belonged to my brother) and paint them up.
First up is the unaligned adventurer from the Runequest Adventurers #2 boxed set, but I've painted him up as Daka Fal, with a spirit rune on his shield. This guy is one of my all time favourites - just such a classic, simple pose but one that is still full of dynamism. He sums up the aesthetic joys of Oldhammer collecting to me - a bit of wistful sentimentality that reminds me of my childhood, combined with wonderful sculpting (but awful casting by today's standards).
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Brilliant! Superb paintwork on a terrific miniature (I have him somewhere, but with his legs long detached from his ankles, I fear...). The weathering on the shield is fantastic.
There's a real magic about those old Perry sculpts. I love the fact that the adventurer actually looks like an adventurer, complete with baggage and gear. This thread could be just the inspiration I need to set to work on my long-neglected stockpile of broo.
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That's a good plan - I haven't got the Broo sets and in all fairness, lovely as they are, I just can't afford the emotional or financial outlay to start collecting them now.
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Watching intently! My own RQ project has just started (again!) and this will be some fine inspiration. Great painting!
The Broo are still some of my favorite minis of all time, but the Trolls... Not so much! ::)
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I really like the trolls, it's just a pity that they're not proper Runequest trolls with dog faces.
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Oh now that is lovely! Beautifully grungy and battleworn, I love it. 8)
I think I have this figure in the bottom of a box somewhere, with some others of the range - a Hercules type with a club, an archer and one in similar armour to this but with a two handed sword. They have languished there for a few years as they are old, rough casts but seeing this makes me want to get them out for a clean up and see what I can do...
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I think I have this figure in the bottom of a box somewhere, with some others of the range - a Hercules type with a club, an archer and one in similar armour to this but with a two handed sword.
The club fella sounds like the Issaries adventurer from the box #1. The archer sounds like the Aldyra adventurer from box #2. The guy with the two-handed sword could either be the Humankt adventurer from box #1 or the Orlanth adventurer (my next subject) from box #2.
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I bow to your superior knowledge, you may as well be typing random letters as far as I'm concerned as I have no experience of RQ and inherited the figures from a friend.
People keep telling me its a great system/world but I've just never had the opportunity to try it.
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I haven't played the game in 30 years or so - I understand the various versions changed a bit over the years. But basically the players can choose to follow a certain cult, which has various traits with its advantages and disadvantages and allows them to interact with other cults in certain ways. Just one of the nice bits of flavour to make Runequest stand out from similar D&D style games.
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I really like the trolls, it's just a pity that they're not proper Runequest trolls with dog faces.
In fairness to Citadel they do match the pre trollpak artwork from Runemasters very well. Trollpak defined the Gloranthan troll with the Lisa A Free artwork.
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In fairness to Citadel they do match the pre trollpak artwork from Runemasters very well. Trollpak defined the Gloranthan troll with the Lisa A Free artwork.
Ah, is that how it happened? I always wondered why they didn't match properly.
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Gosh, I that’s come out well.
I’ve so much nostalgia for this range ... probably a good idea to avoid eBay for a few days.
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That shield... :o
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Exquisite! The colour palette is appealing, and the wear and tear on the shield is so well done. Looking forward to the next one.
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Excellent Cubs. I had that whole original boxed set of Runequest figures. Thought I still had them somewhere, but looked for them a while back and couldn’t find them. Must have sold them on... Wish I hadn’t now... :'(
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Lovely
Do you have any ducks coming?
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Excellent Cubs. I had that whole original boxed set of Runequest figures. Thought I still had them somewhere, but looked for them a while back and couldn’t find them. Must have sold them on... Wish I hadn’t now... :'(
They not overly expensive, I'm pleased to say. You can pick them up for about £5-£10ea even on eBay, and I managed to buy a full boxed set for £40 on a FB trading page.
Lovely
Do you have any ducks coming?
The duck is on the list.
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Had a look and yes I have all the figures I thought I had, lovely dynamic sculpts, I think they may have to feel a brush soon,but only to preserve them from the rot.
I also seem to have two copies of another figure in a Corinthian helmet striking out from behind a figure eight shield (sorry, don't know if they have real name looks kinda like a cello...)
They're old casts with all the attendant mould line issues, but does anyone want the spare? ???
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Let's make this easy for everyone:
http://solegends.com/citrq/index.htm
Gosh, I that’s come out well.
I’ve so much nostalgia for this range ... probably a good idea to avoid eBay for a few days.
This. Very much!
Agreed. I played a Trollpack Dark Troll for years, so I'm very particular. So far, only an old Ral Partha sculpt got it right, and even that one was scaled wrong.
I really like the trolls, it's just a pity that they're not proper Runequest trolls with dog faces.
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I played a Trollpack Dark Troll for years
Me too! He was a beast and my favourite character by far.
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Mad Knight Castings do some really good uz. Rapier Miniatures also do a few decent uz.
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Mad Knight Castings do some really good uz. Rapier Miniatures also do a few decent uz.
Both are too cartoony for my tastes. I'm painting up the Rapier right now, so I hope I can make them work. The Great Troll in the beetle armour is pretty nice, and the Morokanth are excellent, but the Dark Troll is all wrong proportionately.
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When you get them finished, please share. I'd love to see some decent photos of them!
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Ah, is that how it happened? I always wondered why they didn't match properly.
Here's a French blog (https://anniceris.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/lundi-cest-luise-6.html) that shows the progression of the Gloranthan troll. The Citadel ones are very close to those original Luise Perrin illustrations.
This settles the question, I think, of whether they were RQ trolls or Citadel ogres/night goblins/red goblins first (they haunt the broader Citadel ranges in those guises; e.g. the Kyger Litor types are ogresses and the dark troll with the axe is a red goblin champion).
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I wonder what made them swap from the big noses to muzzles? Incidentally, as loth as I am to mutilate classic old models, I've bought some broken Runequest trolls from eBay on the cheap with a mind to converting them into muzzle faced versions. Bit of fun really.
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I wonder what made them swap from the big noses to muzzles? Incidentally, as loth as I am to mutilate classic old models, I've bought some broken Runequest trolls from eBay on the cheap with a mind to converting them into muzzle faced versions. Bit of fun really.
I'd guess it was part of a general process whereby Gloranthan trolls, elves and dwarves became more distinct from their generic namesakes and more properly Aldryami, Mostali and Uz. Even in RQ2, those things look pretty generic (the trolls have become a bit more orc-like). But look at the Mostali now:
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I've acquired a batch of the goofy GW orcs for purposes of speed-painting a HotT army. But I've been thinking of snouting some of them up as RQ trolls, as they're suitably pot-bellied, muscular and top-knotted. They're also about the right size for Dark Trolls. And the comic aspect might even work OK too.
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I've acquired a batch of the goofy GW orcs for purposes of speed-painting a HotT army. But I've been thinking of snouting some of them up as RQ trolls, as they're suitably pot-bellied, muscular and top-knotted. They're also about the right size for Dark Trolls. And the comic aspect might even work OK too.
This is a good shout.
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Love your take on a Daka Fal cultist Cubs. For trolls, there's the Fenris trio, they are massive hunks of metal mind, proper looking trolls though.
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Excellent Cubs. I had that whole original boxed set of Runequest figures. Thought I still had them somewhere, but looked for them a while back and couldn’t find them. Must have sold them on... Wish I hadn’t now... :'(
Not finding something in the lead pile doesn't mean it's not there. lol
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A couple of months ago a very kind member of the Oldhammer FB group (or it could have been a member on here, I'm afraid I've completely forgotten who it was!) donated this battered old Runequest model to me.
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This member had seen me bring new life to another old Runequest model and figured, since he was never goings to tackle this model and it'd probably end up in the bin, I might as well have a crack at it. Poor old model's sword was miscast or broken off, he was on the verge of lead rot and the shield had a lump missing off the side. Apart from that though, he was a lovely old figure, one I'd never seen before (he's a lunar cult member, from the less well known 'Humans and Aldryani' boxed set).
Despite the issues, I was pretty sure a little TLC would bring the best out of him again, so I set to work replacing the sword with a bit of metal from an old set of tweezers, ground down into shape with my mini-drill. The shield was repaired with greenstuff.
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It took me a couple of weeks inbetween paying painting work, but I finally got him finished this week. I wanted him to be wearing polished hard leather armour and have an oxhide shield, as a slight break from the norm. What a handsome chap, and a reminder that even an ugly old model is not necessarily a lost cause.
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Lovely transformation :)
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Fantastic work Cubs :-*
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Congratulations, you're officially an alchemist. You've truly transformed an old lump of lead into gold!
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That is gorgeous!!
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You, sir, are a flaming genius! :-* 8)
It was actually me that sent him to you, he'd been lying unloved in a box for donkeys years as he was so badly miscast (as was the duplicate figure I still have).
I'm so impressed with what you've achieved, its actually given me hope that I could rescue the other old RQ figures that I have. If I didn't know better I'd swear that was a new cast Foundry figure!
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You, sir, are a flaming genius! :-* 8)
It was actually me that sent him to you, he'd been lying unloved in a box for donkeys years as he was so badly miscast (as was the duplicate figure I still have).
I'm so impressed with what you've achieved, its actually given me hope that I could rescue the other old RQ figures that I have. If I didn't know better I'd swear that was a new cast Foundry figure!
I'm sorry I forgot you JB! I regularly clear out my messages so I'd lost the PM and just couldn't remember the kind donor. As you can see, these old models do paint up nicely. They don't have the depth of detail or crispness of newer models, but I prefer that to be honest, because it's more of a blank canvas to work from.
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Oh that's just ridiculous old school Citadel miniatures just aren't supposed to look like that :o
Back in the day we were all painting them in gloss enamels its amazing how good they look with a quality modern paint job.
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A grand job on what has always been one of my favourite old RQ figures. Lovely textures (especially on the armour) and the shield is cracking. Splendid stuff.
Like many of us I suspect, I have a fair few of this range in varying states of disrepair....but they're usually great fun to fix up.
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Cracking! The NMM is particularly good! :-* Any chance of a recipe?
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Fantastic work, I love that shield
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Cracking! The NMM is particularly good! :-* Any chance of a recipe?
It's a bit of a cheat really - I rarely go full NMM, I usually blend a bit of metallic paint and non-metallic to g highlights and the same is true here. The old bronze helmet was mainly dull bronze colour highlighted up with cream to make a muddy brown. Then it had a light wash with green ink, just for a hint of verdigris, topped off with a very very light drybrush of brass, just to pick up very lightly on the textured surface. The sword again was a blend of copper, brass and a little bit of light brown. Then the shade was brown ink, with the highlights copper and cream. All the final highlight dots are just light cream colour.
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Stunning as ever.
Technique went straight over my head, enlarged the male pattern baldness and completely passed my level of ability by.
But thanks for sharing always.
I must practice more...
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It's a bit of a cheat really - I rarely go full NMM, I usually blend a bit of metallic paint and non-metallic to g highlights and the same is true here. The old bronze helmet was mainly dull bronze colour highlighted up with cream to make a muddy brown. Then it had a light wash with green ink, just for a hint of verdigris, topped off with a very very light drybrush of brass, just to pick up very lightly on the textured surface. The sword again was a blend of copper, brass and a little bit of light brown. Then the shade was brown ink, with the highlights copper and cream. All the final highlight dots are just light cream colour.
Thanks for that! I’ll need to give it a go!
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fantastic.
interesting what you say regarding the blank canvas - and if my skills could ever extend to it, that's just the sort of chiaroscuro I'd like to achieve on figures generally.
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Everything about your post makes me happy - a wonderful old gem polished to a brilliant shine, and with a little bit of how-to and technique thrown in for good measure.
Top job Sir!
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Bravo!
The shield is tremendous - and it's a nice way to create an 'all-purpose' Gloranthan fighter. The highlights on the bronze are amazing too.
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Or to be exact, he's FTF25 - Paladin on Quest, who later survived the chop to become a C-series fighter (I only know this because I asked clever people who were better at research than me). He's one of the oldest figures I own and to be honest, was a bit of a pig to paint because the armour has some seriously wonky lines and horrible 'dead' areas with lumps of metal just lurking about.
Still, he's scrubbed up well enough with a little work, and it's a really good pose, although his face is reminding me of the England rugby player Mike Tindall, for some reason. I decided since he was a Paladin, he wouldn't have dirt, damage or grime on him, which is unusual for me.
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He's splendid! Must be very recent or very early Tindall, given the relative straightness of the paladin's nose!
I like how those old Citadel figures were designed as adventurers, with loads of kit. Mind you, I don't think anyone would ever fight with a backpack on if they could help it; I'm enjoying annoying my RPG players by making them dump their stuff to fight without penalty, so that they can be separated from their ill-gotten gains.
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Lovely work! The contrast of the leather kit and the armour is very nicely done.
One of the best things about these early Citadel adventurers is the way that not only do they carry proper amounts of stuff about, but (like this guy) they look as if they've been doing it for a while and are wondering if they really need all those iron spikes and oil flasks &c &c that seemed like a good idea at the time...
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Very nice line work. Love the shield.
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Brilliant painting.
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Amazing work on this ancient miniature.
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Amazing painting the matching scabbard and shield help give the model personality. The pose reminds me of the rumoured origin of saluting.
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Thanks guys. I may just merge my old Citadel nostalgia threads into one, to stop spamming the board with individual threads each time I do an Oldhammer model!
This Paladin guy perfectly represents the joy and frustration of the Oldhammer lover. The pose, the character, the proportions, the face, the wonderful individualism are just a joy. But the actual technical precision of the sculpt and the quality of the casting are something best left in the past. It was simply a way of life in the 80's to expect to spend a good half hour or so carving off the horrible casting lines and lumps of waste metal. Sometimes you were re-sculpting parts of the model because big parts were obscured by horrible lumps of lead.
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Great stuff
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Right, that's it, no more individual threads for my various Citadel nostalgia stuff, it's all going in the one thread now. Thanks to White Knight for the tidy merging, I've got my Runequest guys and the Paladin in here now and I'll just lob the rest in as they get done.
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Cracking! You've gotta love the repeat pattern on the shield, sword and dagger sheafs! :-*
How do you get such a dirty set of armour? Do you start with silver and ink wash the cheap out of or the opposite, dark colours then drybrush silver?
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How do you get such a dirty set of armour? Do you start with silver and ink wash the cheap out of or the opposite, dark colours then drybrush silver?
I've got a nice colour mixed up I've called 'Oily Steel', which is a lovely smooth metal to which I've added a dark brown edge. It's not too shiny, kind of halfway between a metallic and non-metallic shade. This was the base colour over black undercoat, with highlights done in ordinary steel colour (painted on, not drybrushed). This was then given a good wash with brown ink, then the crevices deepened again with a second wash. Then I highlighted again with the steel colour and finally put some little white dots where the light would be picked up. It took a while (one reason I'm not a fan of painting full armour) but it got the effect I was after. I actually thought he was much shinier than I normally do!
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Thanks for that! I’ll need to try that sometime!
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Your painting is so good that it makes the much older sculpts look phenomenal, to the point where I really want them myself (as someone who's very indifferent toward Oldhammer). I'd love to see your work on newer sculpts - not out of disrespect toward the older models, just curious to see how you manage to make cleaner sculpts pop.
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Well I do commission work for various peeps all the time - Conquest Games are currently on the desk, but there's also NorthStar, Lucid Eye, Great Escape Games, Bears Head Miniatures and last but not least Bad Squiddo who I've done fairly recently. I also pootle about doing the odd bit of Bolt Action, Red Box, Gripping Beast or Foundry stuff for myself as the whim takes me.
But the newer Games Workshop stuff leaves me cold to be honest. As technical achievements they're great, showing off the ability of newer design methods, newer casting methods and newer materials. But aesthetically … I really don't have any interest in them whatsoever. These old sculpts have an emotional pull on me.
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So if we're halfway through Orctober, does that mean we should post Half Orcs? I almost put them in the 'Old School Fantasy' thread, but decided I'd spammed that enough as it is.
This old range often has broken weapons and indeed the swordsman has a replacement sword blade (made from a ground-down piece of old tweezers) and the hammer dude has the front of his hammer replaced with greestuff. The entire left side of his face was ruined by a lump of miscast metal as well, so I had to roughly drill it to the approximate shape and then paint in the detail as best I could to match the other side. Not a bad illusion is it?
These lovely old Half Orcs are a recent infatuation for me - I never really liked them as a kid because they weren't 'monstery' enough for one thing, and they didn't really have anything in their stats or rules to make them stand out.
But over the last year I've started to grow very fond of them,(quite probably their cancellation by Games Workshop has a lot to do with this), and set out to collect as many of the pre-slotta C series Half Orcs as I could. Having just purchased the final one online today, I think I've managed it.
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Superb! Really lovely in their unloveliness.
These lovely old Half Orcs are a recent infatuation for me - I never really liked them as a kid because they weren't 'monstery' enough for one thing, and they didn't really have anything in their stats or rules to make them stand out.
Yes, it was odd that they dropped the one thing that made them stand out - the assassin special rules - almost before they got started. In second and third edition, they were almost a liability - punier than orcs but almost as expensive in points, yet much more expensive than goblins.
It's also true that the preslotta range was much better than the slotta-based range that followed: less cartoony and nicely unified by those great shields, despite the variety of the models. I like how some of the faces are fairly human, though ugly, and others are quite orcish (e.g. the bald-headed assassin).
Do you have the 'mounted and foot' half-orc hero?
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Do you have the 'mounted and foot' half-orc hero?
I do, and I think it was the foot version that began my Half Orc collecting spree. He was in a job lot of other stuff I bought and then of course I needed to find the mounted version, and then it just sort of snow-balled. Fortunately I'm not that fussed about the slotta versions either, so I can leave it there!
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Damn fantastic work on lovely minis, Paul!
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Beautiful painting as always. 8)
I had to do the same thing with an old preslotta dwarf face once, lovely sculpt but no quality control in those days!
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A couple of random Orcs have been completed, something of a 'between-work' project to keep me amused over the Crimbo period.
These guys represent my favourite Orcs and what constitutes the 'classic look' in my little world. The loping, stooping gait, the jutting jaws, the wiry frames … that's proper Orcy to me.
The guy with the scimitar is a figure I confess I brutally 'converted' in my early days. I ground off the flail chains with a drill and replaced the sword with something or other (I forget what) clumsily glued on, which inevitably fell off and became lost. This fella is a replacement model who had also lost his sword blade (a common mishap with this model I think) and a new blade fitted as close to the original size and shape as possible (made from ground-down tweezers).
I was messing around with a different skin colour as well, just for a bit of a diversion. I found a Paul Bonner illustration with Orcs sporting a greyish complexion with pinkish patches, which is what I've tried to emulate here. The joy of painting Orcs is that there are any number of skin colour schemes you can put on them, all in the same unit. In fact the more variety the better they probably look.
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Cracking colours! Those skin tones are superb! :-*
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Grand bit of work there - love the shield, and all the rest too but that shield is simple and incredibly effective. 8)
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Thanks dyoods, it's all a bit of fun. The shields for my Orcs are mostly this simple black and white check scheme, which I think just suits them somehow (I don't really know why Orcs and check goes together so well). In my mind, they're all part of my warband based around a group of travelling ne'er-do-wells following Kaleb Daark and his Chaos/Anti-Chaos master Malal. The black and white is part of Malal's badge and I like the anarchic nature of them fighting most everyone for no apparent reason.
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your style / colour-palette / whatever it is, is so distinctive and one of my favourites, like a top-class fine-art illustration as a 3d figure.
the chiasroscuro (well done me if I've spelt that right) is just what I'd aspire to if I thought I could possibly achieve it - which I don't.
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your style / colour-palette / whatever it is, is so distinctive and one of my favourites, like a top-class fine-art illustration as a 3d figure.
the chiasroscuro (well done me if I've spelt that right) is just what I'd aspire to if I thought I could possibly acheive it - which I don't.
Shit, I had to Google it! Posh word for light-dark shading innit?
Thanks, I've been really trying to concentrate on getting a good depth of shade onto models lately and putting the colours into the areas I think the light would hit. It sounds obvious, but I think we (and by that, I mean I) all too easily will simply apply the colour layers by rote onto the more raised edges - the more raised the edge, the lighter the highlight it gets. But light doesn't always work like that. Sometimes a part will catch the light much more than another part which is higher up. There's a lot of guesswork and rubbing of chin really.
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Terrific work on those!
I did a double-take on that one with the mace and checked shield, as he's so close to the pinker version you did a couple of years back.
Those Fantasy Tribe faces are hard to beat - especially that elongated beauty with the amazing dentistry.
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I did a double-take on that one with the mace and checked shield, as he's so close to the pinker version you did a couple of years back.
It was only when I had started to paint him that I realised he was a duplicate of one I'd already done! I've got loads of unpainted ones and the one I pick I've already painted! Typical ...
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Shit, I had to Google it! Posh word for light-dark shading innit?
Thanks, I've been really trying to concentrate on getting a good depth of shade onto models lately and putting the colours into the areas I think the light would hit. It sounds obvious, but I think we (and by that, I mean I) all too easily will simply apply the colour layers by rote onto the more raised edges - the more raised the edge, the lighter the highlight it gets. But light doesn't always work like that. Sometimes a part will catch the light much more than another part which is higher up. There's a lot of guesswork and rubbing of chin really.
that's a rather strong appellation for a chap, Cubs old bean, it's just Bloggard, not S*** Bloggard (although others may beg to differ) lol
and, aye, that's what I was getting at in terms of your elaboration - it's a painterly feel / eye at work, and very much at your discretion per figure I suppose.
Certainly a rather different effect to some other top-class (in terms of brush control and Technique*) figure painting I see, which (at least when shown in a 2D way, i.e. magazine or monitor) has the curious effect of looking more like a 2D 'illustration' than a figurine ... I'm not putting that very well, and am not going to try to link to an example here for the obvious reasons.
(*and I hope it's obvious that this comment isn't implying you don't have 'brush control' etc ::) !)
anyhow ... love yer stuff :)
... and as I've prob. opined in other posts, don't think Citadel did much better than the fantasy tribe stuff (Dwarves still not bettered imho).
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The first orc is one of the best ever made, and you made it better.
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Another tiny removal from the lead mountain, the old Citadel Orlanth adventurer from the Runequest 'Adventurers 2' boxed set.
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Very nice. Love the metal!
Can't believe I haven't commented on this thread.
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Dude... you are awesome....
But after seeing your work, I want to chuck my paints & brushes in the bin.
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Wow, this one is surely nice!
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Fantastic! A fave miniature of mine,still have him in his original Humrol :)
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Shit, I had to Google it! Posh word for light-dark shading innit?
Thanks, I've been really trying to concentrate on getting a good depth of shade onto models lately and putting the colours into the areas I think the light would hit. It sounds obvious, but I think we (and by that, I mean I) all too easily will simply apply the colour layers by rote onto the more raised edges - the more raised the edge, the lighter the highlight it gets. But light doesn't always work like that. Sometimes a part will catch the light much more than another part which is higher up. There's a lot of guesswork and rubbing of chin really.
Italian. ;)
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Reminds me very much of the John Blanche painting of this era. Very characterful without too shiny highlights. I'm a fan of this painting style. :)
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Brilliant! Simply brilliant.
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That's brilliant, really like it.
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Your ability to get photorealistic finish on the orc skins is supernatural. When I take a glance at my best painted orcs on the cabinet shelf, they look like children's toys compared to these art works.
Have you Cubs considered making a photo book of these works of your, like the ones one can make with print houses? Your work surpasses easily the ones shown in the classic Golden Demon winner entry photo books. Or alternatively having an article with some modelling magazine, dedicated to your brush work?
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Thanks guys, all very kind.
I like painting my old toys every now and then and enjoy trying to get the best out of the vintage sculpts, who all have so much great character, but are very raw quality-wise. I particularly enjoy repairing the broken bits of old models, trying to recreate the snapped weapons with wire, putty or metal pieces to recreate a facsimile of the original. Once in while I'll try to add a different weapon in a sympathetic style to the original. The idea of breathing new life into miniatures that might otherwise just end up being used for scrap metal appeals to me.
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Thanks guys, all very kind.
I like painting my old toys every now and then and enjoy trying to get the best out of the vintage sculpts, who all have so much great character, but are very raw quality-wise. I particularly enjoy repairing the broken bits of old models, trying to recreate the snapped weapons with wire, putty or metal pieces to recreate a facsimile of the original. Once in while I'll try to add a different weapon in a sympathetic style to the original. The idea of breathing new life into miniatures that might otherwise just end up being used for scrap metal appeals to me.
Love your work and the new addition. :-* It strikes me as unexpected that you consider figures you paint to be "very raw quality-wise." You seem to be suggesting they are the sculpts, rather than your aged castings, that are raw. Is that the case or do you mean the latter? I also love painting old figures but my experience with old figures has imbued in me a strong belief that while styles, trends and technology changes, there have been figures equally beautiful on the one hand and equally crude on the other made all throughout the past forty years, and sculpting and casting "progress" are myths. IMO, the McLuhanism that goes something is always lost on one side for something gained on the other is nowhere more true (and I googled and found a reference summarizing the idea here for those interested: https://books.google.com/books?id=0P3sDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT84&lpg=PT84&dq=%22mcluhan%22+something+lost+something+gained&source=bl&ots=mMuMNsyYKp&sig=ACfU3U2gm1BT6GaMLLQ2O246T88JONX0Kg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiolaD7hLLgAhVCS60KHZKLARQQ6AEwEnoECAoQAQ) . When I acquire and hold up a beautifully sculpted, pristine casting to my eye I literally feel a wave of lead-head thrill. Whereas a beat-up casting that was once great and is my only copy gives me a sad feeling, as I know full well I should trade or toss it and it's not worth my time to fix it, but sometimes I will go for fixing it anyway, and that feeling of going against my better judgment isn't such a good one. At any rate, I respect your experience and point of view and in the end, it's cool that we can pursue similar ends for perhaps different reasons and with different experiences. Next rare figure in need of TLC I come agree I might offer to sent it to you. :)
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Is that the case or do you mean the latter?
I mean the casting and quality control were raw. What we simply accepted back in the 80's - horrible mould lines, lumps of extraneous metal, miscast blobs - would be chucked back into the melting pot today. The aesthetics of the poses, proportions and sculpting I loved and still do.
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I mean the casting and quality control were raw. What we simply accepted back in the 80's - horrible mould lines, lumps of extraneous metal, miscast blobs - would be chucked back into the melting pot today. The aesthetics of the poses, proportions and sculpting I loved and still do.
Ah, nice, we're not so different, perhaps. Though I think casting quality hit it's high water mark circa 1988, with Grenadier leading and Ral Partha right there. Cracking open a blister pack from a Grenadier range like the Guthrie range gives me a rush as there is an unrivaled fullness in the figure's cheek and definition in the details, and angles that were sculpted to be 90 degrees are actually exactly 90 degrees, and don't need to be filed to make them so. On the other side of the peak you have a degenerate dark age in the age of pewter, when it seems all notions of quality went by the wayside. After years of trial and error we wound up with the main trend being squashed castings due to too much pressure in the molds. Today it's about one in five companies or fewer I find have good or better castings. Of course, today you do have great castings, but these are the exceptions by folks carrying on the casting art like Griffin, not so much the big name companies.
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Great project. Painting a clinically smooth digital figure to a nice look is pretty easy, but getting this great and specific look out of these old minis a.) doesn't only tickle the nostalgia bone, but b.) is the sign of really competent painting. Love the skin on those orcs especially.
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I thought I'd share some elderly miniatures who have been in the wars and needed some TLC to avoid being binned. I get a lot of joy from nursing these veterans back to something like their former glory.
Sometimes I want to recreate as faithfully as possible the original miniature, replacing weapons and making repairs that (I hope) will be invisible once painted. Sometimes I want to make something a bit different.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/KvrPqFWQAdHo/1k0.jpg)
Going left to right on the first photo -
Orc chieftain with scimitar and flail (1) - this guy is one of the longest serving mins in my collection. I've had him since the early 80's and I butchered him quite badly back then, chopping off his hand (to replace it with an axe hand!) and grinding off the chains of the flail to give him a shield. He's also the closest thing I have to Barry Sheen (younger members are encouraged to Google him) with so many repairs, most people would have binned him.
I replaced the scimitar hand with a plastic zombie hand (with thumb removed and a new greenstuff one added in the right position), a ground-metal blade (a variant of this model had a scimitar blade close to this shape, but I was working from memory!), greenstuff hilt, a new wire flail haft and metal chains (probably too bulky, but it was the closest I had, size-wise) with repaired greenstuff weights. He also snapped off at the ankles during the repair, so he needed re-pinning with greenstuff patches over the join.
Orc chieftain with scimitar and flail (2) - just a greenstuff repair to a miscast end of the flail haft and a new ground-metal blade.
Orc chieftain with axe - the whole of the axed above the hand had snapped off, so I replaced the haft with wire and then covered it with greenstuff and lightly scored it for the woodgrain effect. A new axe head was painstakingly made to try to match the original as closely as possible (an original is shown behind for comparison).
Armoured Orc with large mace - the head of the mace was missing, so a new one was made from greenstuff. I stupidly tried to match the position of the rivets to the original (shown behind for comparison), which in hindsight was probably pointless attention to detail!
Armoured Orc with sword and shield (1) - the sword blade was snapped off by the edge of the shield, so an extension was made from plasticard and pinned in place, with the join covered by greenstuff.
Armoured Orc with sword and shield (2) - he had snapped off at the ankles (a common mishap with many of the C15/16 Orcs I believe). He's another contestant for the title of longest serving miniature and he has also sat crippled in my collection for over 30yrs, waiting to be repaired. He's just been drilled and pinned with the joins covered with greenstuff.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/9UweZ6mmTHBB/1k0.jpg)
Second photo -
Great Troll adventurer (1) - this guys always seems to lose his maul. Since I already have an original model with maul intact, I decided to have a little fun. His original maul has been replaced with a slightly different version, made from a chopped-down section of standard from the plastic Ogre sprue. I have also built up his shield into a dome ready for a nice design I have planned.
Great Troll adventurer (2) - I wanted this variant to have a much shorter weapon, and also repositioned the hands to hold it in a different angle. I specifically wanted a weapon that looked like he could use it in one hand as well (he does have a shield after all, and no other weapon in sight!). I originally had a larger war hammer sculpted, but chopping it down to a simpler model seemed to work better with the aesthetics. Hammer head is made from plasticard and the haft is wire covered in greenstuff.
Half Orc - the long blade with this weapon (what would you call it, a glaive I guess?) rarely seems to have survived the years, so I picked him up cheap and added the blade made from ground metal. I fond it difficult to get the correct length and the notches in the right place, since I was working from an old Citadel illustration.
Great Trolls - these guys are in the waiting room. Since I already have an original model intact, I will be experimenting with these guys and having fun. I don't like the original pose very much to be honest (heresy!) so I may try to reposition him a bit to show a bit more life.
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Fantastic stuff - completely agree on the enjoyment to be got from repairing ancient lead.
Those are some grand repair and reconditioning jobs you've done there; looking forward to seeing them painted (obviously) but it's fascinating to see them like this. Very inspiriational.
I've a pile of similarly broken and/or half-fixed old warriors that I really ought to attend to...
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Wonderful. So many old Citadel minis need work to repair >:(
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I love this and absolutely get the pleasure you find renovating these veterans - I'm very similar.
Would absolutely kill to have my original Half-Orc collection back again!
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Nice stuff. Love fixin up old minis :-)
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I enjoyed that Cubs. More please!
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As part of an ongoing 'Tragedy of McDeath' commission for a customer, this time it was the turn of the Maltmen (and one Maltwoman), tough brewery workers sworn to defend their precious whisky barrels, and their leader Brooben Keyler. Brooben himself is the 'official' McDeath miniature (also part of Citadel's old Thief range) and since there were no official Maltmen figures, they are hereby represented by various old Citadel club-armed peasants, rogues and wascally wuffians (including a Judge Dredd perp!) … so … much … brown ...
Brooben himself has in his mouth an odd object, which no-one could quite identify (not even the Perry twins themselves, who sculpted him but couldn't remember what it was meant to be!), so we plumped for an ornate pipe carved in the shape of a skull, with a little chain. It may or may not be correct, but it was our best guess.
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PS. Spot the Patrick Stewart lookalike!
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Wow they look great!
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Incredible painting. The old citadel ranges have bags of character :D
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Beautiful work, Cubs.
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Great work Paul. I didn't recognise some of those Maltmen. A couple of them were from the Elric range originally did you know? They were the Beggar King's army.
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Well well, those are amazing I must say.
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Mother of the gods, those are nice.
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Wonderful! :-*
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Great work Paul. I didn't recognise some of those Maltmen. A couple of them were from the Elric range originally did you know? They were the Beggar King's army.
I did not know. Well you live and learn.
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My god - beautiful! And the basing too!
I think my favorite is the piratical looking fellow with his shirt open to the navel, long hair, and an eye patch (although they're all so marvelous it hardly seems fair to choose a favorite!).
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Bit of a conversion project right now. I'm doing a McDeath batch and the official miniature for 'Spot' the Chaos Hound was … disappointing. This is how he should have looked, with big scorpion tail and everything -
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… and this is the official miniature -
(https://myalbum.com/photo/v44KfjmduhnJ/1k0.jpg)
He has an embarrassment of tail. Not acceptable in my book, so a new tail had to be built to match the true Spot. Here it is pre-paintjob, made from wire, greenstuff, pins and a lot of patience -
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Much, much better. Nice work.
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That looks fantastic!
I did a double-take at the original, as I remembered a chaos hound with a much more impressive tail. But I see that was one of the single-headed ones from the same era (http://www.sodemons.com/rhc/rhc22creatures/index.htm). It's rather odd that they let Spot out into the world so under-equipped!
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That hound looks like it's snapping one off! lol
I was originally planning to build a more realistic scorpion tail, like that one you found, but then I saw the illustration shows a distinctive shape that was much more chaos and not all that scorpiony.
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I'd imagine chaos hounds to be the scourge of the Old World's pavements!
Yeah, yours is much better - fantastically menacing the way it's poised up there ready to strike.
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brilliant work, looks great.
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Beautiful brushwork!!
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Right, some updates now. More McDeath fun with Raybees (both of them), halfling valet to Een McWrecker, McDeath's lieutenant. Raybees on the left is the one shown in the McDeath illustrations, whereas Raybees on the right is the 'official' Citadel miniature for Raybees. Why did Citadel release a different miniature from the one shown in the illustrations? Answers on a postcard …
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fantastic figures and painting.
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Love the flesh tones! :-*
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Outstanding. One more reason not to bother painting my massive stash of ancient halflings... 8)
I believe the original Raybees was also marketed under the name Benni Bottomdown - presumably cos of his fetching Benny hat.
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Lovely! :-* Very realistic.....if one can say that about a race of fantasy halflings!
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I really like seeing these old figures brought to life. Very cool.
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Wonderful - fantastically indignant and ruddy faces!
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Very kind guys. A couple more now, Juggo Joriksonn, bodyguard to Julia McEwman, and Fergus McEwman, the over-muscled sergeant at arms.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/htDW6X9MyzaJ/1k0.jpg)
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Nice.
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I love these guys - the flesh tones are perfect, and the faces, as always, are wonderfully full of character. I love the ruddy features on Juggo! Fantastic! The bases are excellent too - I think I said the same thing about them with your LotR miniatures, but it's worth repeating!
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Stellar work! Great project!
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Funny looking at figures I have in a box somewhere unloved because twenty (thirty?) odd years ago they weren't very inspiring, looking like this!
I hope to see many more here.
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Couple more now. First is Donalbane, the official Citadel miniature. The second is a Citadel fighter who looks a lot more like the illustration.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/rPoxwb4y9GUx/1k0.jpg)
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Love the recent additions. :-*
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Great painting on some lovely old lead.
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Very kind guys. A couple more now, Juggo Joriksonn, bodyguard to Julia McEwman, and Fergus McEwman, the over-muscled sergeant at arms.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/htDW6X9MyzaJ/1k0.jpg)
One of the best Ds ever! And with that hair colour he looks exactly like the Physics teacher that ran the roleplaying club back in the day...
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Fantastic stuff!
Quite apart from the wonderful paintjobs, this thread is an interesting illumination of how the Warhammer writers were able to cook up great scenarios from a really disparate range of models. There's a wonderful creativity in a campaign that incorporates that almost Thrud-like muscle man, the Elric-ish Donalbane and that chaos hound - along with orcs, a dragon turtle and a hobbit!
I find all that stuff so much more enthralling than the "factions" approach that has characterised Warhammer in recent decades.
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The mashing together of Shakespearean plot and weak puns is pure face-palm as well. The original prophecy is of course that MacBeth will not be defeated 'until Birnham Wood comes to Dunsinane', which is brought to pass by soldiers using branches cut from the trees as camouflage as they creep up on the castle. In McDeath, there is an Ent called Clinty … and of course the place where he lives is called … Clinty's Wood. Jebus wept.
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The puns were always exquisitely excruciating.
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the modern painting on these guys is just awesome... really "paints" these oldies in a better light :)
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stunning paintjob on those minis of the golden age of Citadel .
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if someone, some day, has the other figurine of this set ... ;)
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More McDeath fun now, the Earl of Harkness, mounted and foot. Combining the images of him on the front and back covers, I've tried to show an amalgamation of the flaming sword (sorry for the foul language), armour and shield designs. The spike in the middle of the shield does not aid fiddly painting! There's a lot going on with these models, so I've done a lot more angles than usual.
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Excellent painting.
Does your comissioner now that there should be 16 maltmen? And I'm looking forward to the dray and the turtle.
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Excellent painting.
Does your comissioner now that there should be 16 maltmen? And I'm looking forward to the dray and the turtle.
Very kind.
He's sending a couple more Maltmen to bump up the numbers, but I don't know if we'll get to 16. Dray and turtle dragon remain doubtful thus far, but you never know.
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Amazing! (And another entry in the roster of silly Citadel names, if I recall correctly: isn't the earl Dart of Harkness? A pointless spoonerism rather than a pun, this time, but still!)
Incredible work all round: the scabbard's superb, quite apart from all the rest. The shield must have been a nightmare to do: I always thought that the introduction of plastic shields was a very mixed blessing at best, because prep time and freehand painting both became more onerous.
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Amazing! (And another entry in the roster of silly Citadel names, if I recall correctly: isn't the earl Dart of Harkness? A pointless spoonerism rather than a pun, this time, but still!)
You know what … the penny had never dropped about that one until now.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yiLSMXBJbVo/UrT9aN9hwRI/AAAAAAAAHJk/U_KfssGpG6U/s1600/picard-facepalm.jpg)
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Good grief that's a good job on him :-*
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Wow.
I've always loved your painting, but this is the best I've seen from you, Cubs, I think. Amazing! The shield is outstanding, the sword scabbard too, but I have to be honest and admit that for some reason I keep noticing how impressed I am by his stylish boots! Basing, as always, is fantastic too. I love every bit of this/these!
To Hobgoblin, I do have to say, though - is any spoonerism truly pointless? Just another layer in the sponge cake of wonder that is Citadel in all its glory!
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Bloomin' 'eck! :o
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Stunning work sir!
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Amazing entries!
I greatly respect your attention to detail
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The Earl Dart of Harkness is an amazing paintjob. I would never have thought of painting the armor as if it were reflecting the red glow from the flaming sword. Almost looks as if it would actually light up in the dark.
Great stuff!
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Okay, Sir John Quicksure now, a knight errant from the McDeath campaign who apparently has no sympathy for painters trying to squeeze a griffon onto a shield with a dirty great spike in the middle!
(https://myalbum.com/photo/VsepcjLu74Fu/1k0.jpg)
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Great, inspiring paints on these old figures, thanks for posting!
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Stunning
For me too the citadel spikes have been a,n enigma - to file or not to file...
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Stunning
For me too the citadel spikes have been a,n enigma - to file or not to file...
The plastic shield system was pretty innovative in fairness and works fine for the more 'cartoonish' subjects, but if it was up to me, I'd have flat shields on all subjects with a central design. For me, the aesthetics are more important than retaining the original state of the old models. I can completely understand when a customer just wants the classic models preserved as authentically as possible though.
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Just fantastic painting Cubs, absolutely stunning!
On the shield-spike issue, as a super-super-shite painter I always appreciated them, as it gave the shield some character. The good painters among friends I knew generally filed them off, while the one really fucking good painter left them on and worked around them.
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Lovely,as always :-*
I always clipped the spike off, and filled the hole,except for Chaos Dwarves, hahaha
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IIRC I filed the knobs off but left the spikes...
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Some Orc nostalgia fun now, just for happy joy-joys inbetween paying work.
First up a lovely Orc brusier (one of the C-series bodyguards is he? something like that) with an awful shield. Honestly, I don't know what possessed the sculptor to lob that giant skull thing and the stipply putty background on it, but hey-ho. Lots of 'dead area' extra metal on this guy as well - not much you can do with that except paint it black (cue Rolling Stones intro).
(https://myalbum.com/photo/YfB4khio755m/1k0.jpg)
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Now a model that I never really liked much, but he's painted up nicely and I've come around to him. This guy's very plain other than the severed head (I probably appreciated these sorts of gruesome details better as a kid). He's also wearing a battered chain shirt over skin … damn those orc hides are tough.
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And last but not least, the Champion from Harboth's Black Mountain Boyz. Again, it's not an overly attractive model (I think my original had his Christmas tree decoration removed from the hat sharpish) with a bizarre weapon, but again he's painted up nicely and has a great face. I actually made a mistake with the shield and plopped way more blood onto it than intended, but decided to work it in rather than remove it all, and I quite like the effect.
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do love your style. All look great.
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Oh my days - all lovely but that last fellow is amazing!
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This thread is like a comfort blanket made of nostalgia. You seem to have selected all of my favourite Citadel minis to paint, and then made them look better than I would have thought possible. Bravo.
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Superb! And Yaskin Forit too!
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Great painting man. I like that orc with the thin jutting jaw with the severed head quite a bit.
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Loving those orcs, particularly the 2nd one
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Wanderful, wanderful job on these, I like the palette choice!
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Simply superb orcs
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Thanks guys, I do like painting up my old Orcs in a grimy style. Clean Orcs seem wrong.
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Stunning!
Looking for Orcs at the moment, was thinking of Ral Partha but might go back to pre slotta Citadel now....
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Thanks guys, I do like painting up my old Orcs in a grimy style. Clean Orcs seem wrong.
Yes, I have never quite got my head round the current trend for brightly coloured, shiny orcs either. They should be grubby, skinny, malevolent looking buggers, debased men not huge lime-green apes.
Anyway, that's my nerdstalgic rant out the way. ::)
Superb painting as always. I wonder, have you ever posted a step by step of your work anywhere? I am really taken by the almost impressionistic feel I get from some of your minis and would love to know how you achieve it.
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Oh you guys, too kind.
Superb painting as always. I wonder, have you ever posted a step by step of your work anywhere? I am really taken by the almost impressionistic feel I get from some of your minis and would love to know how you achieve it.
The only step-by-step I can remember doing was for some Paul hicks Airborne guys a few years back - probably not the sort of thing you were wanting!
To be honest I'd love to be able to paint in that satin-smooth style that the likes of Stone Cold Lead are able to achieve; that's just gorgeous. Or there's the wonderful luscious colours of Duff's Glorantha work, or Captain Scarlet's eye popping crispness, or even the creepy beauty of Blasphemia's Gothic portraits. My earlier work seems to have been much smoother and neater when I look through my back catalogue, so I'm forced to conclude that I think my eyes are going!
Without getting too pretentious (hopefully) I'm less married to a formulaic style now where I follow a well followed process and produce a consistent style made from base, midtone, highlight (nothing wrong with it of course and it's very useful for getting a nice standard to multiple models). Each figure now seems to require something a little different from me each time. Sometimes the light will catch it while I'm painting and seems to hint at something the sculptor wants to portray, or I'll be working from a source photo and there's an unexpected use of colour I'm going to have to reproduce somehow.
Like a lot of people, I've always admired the Godfather of tabletop miniature painting, Kev Dallimore, and his great economic style where a single brushstroke seems to convey so much to the figure. Perhaps as the old eyes fade, I'm trying to emulate that? Just blobbing the right sorts of colours and shades down in the right areas lets my blurry vision interpolate nicely. I'm always a bit annoyed when I do a close-up photo to see how messy it looks blown up on the screen, but I prefer to keep doing that, so people can see how I put the paint on easier, in case they want to try out a similar technique.
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Thanks for the reply, Cubs. :)
That all makes sense to me, my own painting is getting a little more "relaxed" as my eyes get older... There is definitely less of the crispness you describe and I find myself relying more on washes and shades than I used to. I just have this mental block about introducing new colours to the mix - I can see in your work where a spatter of red or some blue undertones can really lift a figure, but I can't bring myself to do it - brown is brown and red is red and that's all neat and orderly! lol
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Often it's a leap of faith! If working from a photo or particularly a piece of artwork, the unexpected colour can be seen in situ before you try to introduce it. You can't really go wrong with putting fleshy (or browns that contrast to look fleshy) around the eyes, nose, mouth and tips of the ears. I sometimes put it on the finger and toe ends and inside of the knee and elbow. If your skin colour is already fleshy or reddish, then adding a blueish or purplish shade to those areas can work quite nicely.
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While I'm not opposed to clean-looking Orcs/Orks, I do dig a well-done grimy look a lot. Speaks for the quality of the sculpts if either look works on them. :)
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Thanks again Cubs, I can see it is quite an organic process, and I guess a lot of trial and error is involved.
I'll give it a cautious try at some point. :)
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It's interesting, looking at those orcs again (and again ...), to see how the Perrys upped their game between the solid-based ranges and the first slotta ones (like Yaskin Forit). The older miniatures are nicer designs, but the execution is just that bit slicker with Yaskin. And those solid-based fellows themselves are the best of/improvements on the Fantasy Tribe range, as they were among the ones included in the narrower C15/16 range (which is why there are more of those two kicking around than most of the earlier variants).
Looking at Yaskin's helmet, I wonder if that was the influence of Kev Adams' conversions of Perry orcs, some of which had the same sort of outlandish headgear. His two-handed dwarf-tickler is a very odd weapon: I have him kicking around and am almost tempted to convert it into a goedendag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goedendag).
Anyway, they're an absolute feast for the eyes!
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His two-handed dwarf-tickler is a very odd weapon: I have him kicking around and am almost tempted to convert it into a goedendag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goedendag).
It's a pain in the 'arris when the fluff doesn't match the models*. The whole idea is that the 'Dwarf Tickler' (which I see as a forerunner of the 'choppa') was a unique invention adopted by the entire regiment. But his looks nothing like that of the troopers, not even a scaled-up version! If he wasn't such a tricky model to get hold of (his rarity prevents me tampering with an original) I'd chop off the helmet decoration and replace the head of the weapon with something like a modified bill hook or glaive.
*This also applies to Mudak's Half Orcs, who are meant to be armed with clubs, but instead they all have long hook-tipped swords!
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Indeed! Yaskin's dwarf tickler looks a bit more like the one in the Tony Ackland illustration - but that's more of a spiked club than a "hooked cleaver".
(http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr05harboth/ffrr5harboth-02.jpg)
The other biggie in that regard is the description of Karnac's lizardmen each being armed with "at least two swords". The models don't have any swords at all!
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Some more McDeath goodies.
Arka Zargul, leader of the dwarf miners.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/rDRNFSRNoLSc/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/aX7AS56QLEHL/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/6AApmpdWfAm2/1k0.jpg)
Juggo Joriksonn (alternate figure), Julia McEwman's bodyguard
(https://myalbum.com/photo/ZvUASEyCHMo3/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/WBcmwdQDhS3G/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/ZXqLk4w9EAKL/1k0.jpg)
Mergrey Calchoner, King Dunco's court magician
(https://myalbum.com/photo/nFVUdijSuf9j/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/BR6QwfzyUige/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/bFzXiBEzAvgy/1k0.jpg)
… and last but most, a wonderful model (with an enhanced tail because the original was feeble) - Spot, Lady McDeath's pet chaos hound
(https://myalbum.com/photo/xPMGwU6W2EGM/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/xqjJrSbCKJte/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/8DUjMnF4BPGj/1k0.jpg)
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Thats chaos hound is spectacular Cubs, genuinely one of the best I've ever seen.
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LOVE the chaos hound!!
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Just brilliant as usual. Rapidly becoming one of my most visited threads so many thanks for that.
Interesting side note (to me at least) but I’ve been thinking about how my painting is evolving as my eyes get older. I seem to be slowly moving towards increased contrast - sharper edges and stronger colours. I think it’s easier on my eyes these days :)
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I am not normally a fan of the wide jawed GW Ork aesthetic compared to the more human looking orc look... but your amazing painting really has me rethinking that. Doing grubby well is harder than some folks think.
Overall your painting is brilliant. Love your color palette.
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Cracking good work all round, you make some pretty shoddy minis look good. The hound is slobberingly well done. :-*
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Thanks guys, I'm glad it's spreading a little Oldhammer love. I don't hate new stuff, I just enjoy smearing myself in nostalgia and sitting in it so the waft reaches others.
Interesting side note (to me at least) but I’ve been thinking about how my painting is evolving as my eyes get older. I seem to be slowly moving towards increased contrast - sharper edges and stronger colours. I think it’s easier on my eyes these days :)
I think I am too. I'm finding that when I've 'finished' a model these days I'll often look at it, then um and ah, then give it a little dab of pure white somewhere (see the cheek of the woodsman or the spike on Spot's tail) - just a tiny bit to draw the eye - and then I use a dark wash to add a depth of shadow somewhere else (Spot's belly, Arka's mail shirt) to drag the contrast in the colours out a bit more.
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Great stuff! The hound is brilliant - and all that effort with the tail has really paid off. He's come out (damn Spot!) superbly.
Side-note: is that really Juggo Joriksonn? I thought he was a Norse dwarf!
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Side-note: is that really Juggo Joriksonn? I thought he was a Norse dwarf!
That worm-can is most displeasing. The official Citadel miniature for Juggo is the mad Norse Dwarf berserker type with two swords (as seen earlier in this thread), BUT the fluff in the scenario and the illustrations for Juggo, show him as a bearded human with an axe (very similar to this guy). BUT the illustration in the character section shows him with two eyes, whereas the playing counter shows him with a black eye patch! Frankly it's enough to make me despair.
Basically, whatever the guys at Citadel were smoking/drinking while they cobbled the whole McDeath thing together, it seems to have resulted in no-one talking to anyone else and the official miniatures (usually taken from the existing Citadel ranges) in particular often bear little or no resemblance to the characters, which is doubly confusing because there were much more accurate figures already in the Citadel ranges that could have been used. One wonders if it was to do with production problems, or lack of stock, or details being changed at the 11th hour, or just plain old rushing to get it all published for a deadline.
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I see - that's quite a tangled tale! To make matters, this guy (or the matching miniature) was the official Juggo Jorikson in The Magnificent Sven, a year or two before:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/1/14/Juggo_Jorikson_Norse_Dwarf_Berserker_2nd_Edition_illustration.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180516141633)
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Ah, now to tangle the skein yet further, that set of legs is clearly the ones used on the Arka Zargul model, but with a different top half!
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So many figures of that era have the same basic "dollies".
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The Mcdeath miniatures are superb
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Hopefully this is now the last Juggo to go with this McDeath collection. This time he's the Talisman Woodsman, with added eye-patch.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/jk5iLE7XmGuC/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/d8xUMhyAasCb/1k0.jpg)
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I just took some time going through this thread- I'm so impressed with the dirty, worn, "lived-in" effect you get on your miniatures. They match up so well with the picture in my mind when I think of what these characters/creatures would look like if they were real.
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Thanks, but in all honesty it's an easy effect - usually just a bit of dark brown wash and/or a quick drybrush with a muddy colour. I mix my own colour combinations as well, so I have a lot of very handy brown shades already to go.
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Brown is truly the colour of life.
Please, keep splashing that brown around!
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Wonderful stuff. Thanks for the weathering info for your browns. My browns always tend to be too muddy or slightly grey. :(
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More selfish indulgence this week with a little break between paying jobs.
First up is a Great Troll Adventurer from the Runequest Humanoid Adventurers boxed set. I bought him cheap in a job lot with other broken Runequest Trolls because his weapon was missing, so he has received a new maul, very similar to his original, made from parts of a leftover plastic Ogre standard I found in my bits box. He has also had his small shield built into a dome with putty, so I could put a scarab design on it. I don't know if he was an unfortunate recast, or just a poorly cast original, but there is a dirty great lump of waste metal under his right arm, which instead of trying to remove, I just painted as another box or satchel he is carrying. I love that he is so fully kitted out for adventuring!
(https://myalbum.com/photo/N7j2xzDTXGxG/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/XgXyVdpVtfDS/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/qi5s6Zdhivrr/1k0.jpg)
Now I don't usually show unfinished models, but I thought I'd give a sneak peek of a longish project I'm working on, namely the Goblin Warlord from the old Nick Lund Goblin Warlord Chariot (it also appears under various similar names). The shield is painted to go with the rest of my (still theoretical) Malal Warband, in the black and white design.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/XrS5ArkVX6ed/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/h6UzAPrjrkVg/1k0.jpg)
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I love that troll adventurer.
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Outstanding. Looking forward to seeing what becomes of the goblin!
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That Runequest troll is both an excellent sculpt and extremely well painted.
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Brilliant on both!
The way you've brought Bogdan Legbreak to life is astounding. Are you doing the full chariot, or is he destined for some other project?
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Brilliant on both!
The way you've brought Bogdan Legbreak to life is astounding. Are you doing the full chariot, or is he destined for some other project?
I'm doing the chariot, but it's one of those time-consuming jobs that I'm sulking about and avoiding as much as possible. All that bare wood … and the wolves … don't get me wrong, I do love the distinct Nick Lind flavour to the wolves, but those deep set eye sockets and the mad fur texture … let's just say I'm one of life's prevaricators and I keep giving it the mañana treatment.
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I saw this and decided to dig out the ones I have and give them some TLC, very inspiring so thanks for that.
I'm in the process of cleaning and repairing.
Okay, I've actually put it down now, so I kind of have to do it.
I've had this idea in the back of my mind for ages to grab some of the old Runequest models I played with as a kid (they all belonged to my brother) and paint them up.
First up is the unaligned adventurer from the Runequest Adventurers #2 boxed set, but I've painted him up as Daka Fal, with a spirit rune on his shield. This guy is one of my all time favourites - just such a classic, simple pose but one that is still full of dynamism. He sums up the aesthetic joys of Oldhammer collecting to me - a bit of wistful sentimentality that reminds me of my childhood, combined with wonderful sculpting (but awful casting by today's standards).
(https://myalbum.com/photo/f6Ei0GRvNoyv/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/MFDDMpzJLDv5/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/ckkLn0oHbWTN/1k0.jpg)
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Just dipping into the thread.
- Lovely stuff, that Talisman woodsman is OldHammer eyecandy!
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I saw this and decided to dig out the ones I have and give them some TLC, very inspiring so thanks for that.
I'm in the process of cleaning and repairing.
Good to hear! The old Runequest models are beautifully sculpted and often overlooked, being indifferently casted (casted? cast?) and 'true' 25mm scale and a little on the small side. But they have such charm and paint up so nicely. The detail is crisp and would respond well to inks and washes to bring out texture.
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I'm glad the thread is spreading a little joy, the models do lighten my heart.
And as if to reinforce the theory that nothing is as desirable to us as something we once had and lost, this peerlessly vintage C20 Troll, revelling in the name 'Shakined Bone Bender' is a model I once owned and to my shame, sold off years ago. I managed to buy one on eBay a while back (for a lot more than I sold mine for of course) and he has been sat on the desk gathering dust for months. I have finally got round to putting some paint on this glorious old sculpt, arguably the best Troll Citadel ever made.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/6u9WqpSSARSu/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Z68Dg3M3zuwW/1k0.jpg)
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I love that figure, and I love your paint job.
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I m not often speechless but the troll is wow. The skin tones are superb with the variations of tone cubs. First class
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Not sure that’s the best troll they ever did but it’s pretty fantastic!
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That's just gorgeous! Love this sculpt and I check eBay every now and then in the hopes of finding one at a reasonable price. I think there's a bit of its design DNA in GWs latest trolls (or troggoths).
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Superb! It's inspired me to dig my Shakined out of the lead pile and slap on a gesso undercoat (for nothing more than a quick 'n' dirty speed-paint, mind).
I'd tend to agree that he's the best GW troll; certainly, that C20 range is unsurpassed, I think, though, that I might struggle to pick out a favourite. Facially, Shakined's the odd one out, as he doesn't have the Scandinavian-style droopy troll noses of the others. But he does have the advantage of being immortalised in interior artwork in various editions of Warhammer:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/aa/1a/77aa1a5a168c14b7cebbe271b7f87aa7.jpg)
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Facially, Shakined's the odd one out, as he doesn't have the Scandinavian-style droopy troll noses of the others. But he does have the advantage of being immortalised in interior artwork in various editions of Warhammer:
Yeah, he's certainly unique, which is his charm for me. His features are so comical - the big flappy ears, pot belly, spindly legs - that I felt he needed 'nastying-up' a little. It's one reason why I went for black, beady eyes, so he'd look a little more sinister. I also felt that the dried dark blood on the bone was nastier than dripping red somehow.
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I also felt that the dried dark blood on the bone was nastier than dripping red somehow.
I noticed that: it works really well. He's done this before ...
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Absolutely bloody brilliant 8) 8) 8)
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There's a lot to love in this thread. The painting is superb, especially when you consider how rough and ready some classic citadel scuplts can be, not to mention the iffy quality of a lot of the casts.
Top painting Cubs, particularly love your metals.
Keep 'em coming.
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The latest addition looks wonderful!
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Those C20 Trolls are new to me. What a bunch of cool models. Thanks Cubs for broadening my horizon again ;) Your painting is awsome as always. I am so happy when I come on here and see that you have update your thread. Please keep on doing what you do....
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That's glorious! A sculpt ahead of its time I'd say!
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This is a great thread. Really nice work and a nostalgia trip too.
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Lovely, characterful work.
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Nice painting.
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Got my lads ready to paint
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/1836-051019230321.jpeg)
Citadel and ral Partha
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Go man, go!
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Orctober is on us! Here's the compulsory Orc for the annual tradition, along with a little story. He's the last one of the C15 Armoured Orcs I decided to collect a couple of years back, and he led me a merry dance indeed. When I did find him listed somewhere he was insanely overpriced. I don't know if he was rare, or I was just having crappy luck. When I finally saw him one day for £2.99 on eBay, I snapped him up sharpish.
I don't normally take so many angles on the photos, but his face has some great detail, like the scar on his right cheek, and a beard! Whoever heard of a hairy Orc? Ah, the old days of variety in sculpting, rather than the generic computer-generated faces. With that in mind, note the hairy leg. I suppose it could have been chainmail or animal skin trousers, but it just looks like he's a particularly hirsute individual (he could probably pass for a Hobgoblin or small Bugbear as well).
(https://myalbum.com/photo/GpSUgKTNj5az/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/r6qDifVCSG5d/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/cghSvkeoSA7k/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Hk8ytnZqdCMY/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/W4SAjX3DAXSQ/1k0.jpg)
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Yeah, one of my favorite pre-slotta Orcs, this one. PJ and basing of course excellent as always ;-).
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Brilliant as ever! Lovely muted tones. As always, the richness of the colours in the teeth (in particular) is astonishing.
Orctober is on us! Here's the compulsory Orc for the annual tradition, along with a little story. He's the last one of the C15 Armoured Orcs I decided to collect a couple of years back, and he led me a merry dance indeed. When I did find him listed somewhere he was insanely overpriced. I don't know if he was rare, or I was just having crappy luck. When I finally saw him one day for £2.99 on eBay, I snapped him up sharpish.
He's definitely much rarer than his sickle-wielding headmate (this guy (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=77384.msg1013375#msg1013375)), who seems to turn up all the time. And he shares a body with one of the two dart-throwers in the range.
I don't normally take so many angles on the photos, but his face has some great detail, like the scar on his right cheek, and a beard! Whoever heard of a hairy Orc? Ah, the old days of variety in sculpting, rather than the generic computer-generated faces. With that in mind, note the hairy leg. I suppose it could have been chainmail or animal skin trousers, but it just looks like he's a particularly hirsute individual (he could probably pass for a Hobgoblin or small Bugbear as well).
You know, I think GW created the notion of hairless orcs at some point in the 90s, for reasons unknown. Tolkien's orcs were hairy: one of the Uruk-hai has a "hairy ear and filthy jowl", and Grishnakh's "hairy arms" are mentioned a couple of times.
And Warhammer orcs/goblins were (sometimes) hairy for quite a while. Besides this orc's head (on its two bodies), there's a long-haired C15 armoured orc (the one with two clubs), and then there's the fellow with the Leatherface-style metal helmet: he has a pointy beard poking out from beneath his face-plate. The Great Goblins were quite a beardy lot too.
With the slottabased ranges, things became a bit more standardised, but quite a few Kev Adams goblins still sport impressive moustaches. And the first savage orcs had lots of hair. Some of the Iron Claw black orcs have facial hair, and one or two of the second wave of Space Orks have the odd beard too.
So it's quite odd that they suddenly decided that orcs were hairless (I think it was explicitly stated in the rulebooks at one point).
Anyway, it all serves to reinforce your point about the wonderful variety of the early Citadel ranges. Those C15 orcs had so many traits that vanished from the subsequent ranges, whether it was beards, darts, two-handed swords, paired shortswords, Gene Simmons tongues, walrus tusks or foot-long underbites.
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Lovely painting on that orc (although I always liked the ridiculous big jawed ones).
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Yeah … I invite you to make your own thread for posting pics of your models though. This is kind of for my stuff.
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Sorry Cubs, no offence mean't
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Sorry Cubs, no offence mean't
No worries. I'll come visit you in your thread, promise. I'll even bring beer. Now bugger off, the Wales match is kicking off!
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I hope they lose! :)
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Excellent work on the old school miniatures. Thanks for the PM to putting it into practice now! :D
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Coming to the end of the McDeath collection now - I can't believe I've nearly painted the entire collection (other than the Highlanders, someone else painted those!), what a treat and something I never thought I'd do!
The two incarnations of Klinty the Treemen are presented for your viewing pleasure. Why two? Same reason as before really, for reasons best known to themselves, when GW released the models for the scenario pack, they gave the second (very tree-ish) version as the official miniature. However, the first version perfectly matches the cover illustration (I've bent his arms slightly to give a bit more animation) ... so why did they … etc .. etc .. answers on a postcard as always.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/VZtkzSjCPZsY/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/ATPhQss23SEV/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/uahwygwA9fk5/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Aoq7KMKpLsFK/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/7qufzJyuddH6/1k0.jpg)
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Great bark tones on those two treemen. Didn't they pretty much use that same first sculpt as a Bloodbowl treeman with the addition of a helmet and shoulder pad?
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Great bark tones on those two treemen. Didn't they pretty much use that same first sculpt as a Bloodbowl treeman with the addition of a helmet and shoulder pad?
Yeah, I think you're right, it's exactly the same sculpt, with additions.
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Superb! You've given them both a rather haunted, haunting look - as if they'd much rather be something other than trees but are getting on with the job as it's the only option. I've always thought the older one rather comic, but it looks really quite sinister here - shades of Dante's Inferno (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/DVinfernoForestOfSuicides_m.jpg/800px-DVinfernoForestOfSuicides_m.jpg), perhaps?
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Superb! You've given them both a rather haunted, haunting look - as if they'd much rather be something other than trees but are getting on with the job as it's the only option. I've always thought the older one rather comic, but it looks really quite sinister here - shades of Dante's Inferno (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/DVinfernoForestOfSuicides_m.jpg/800px-DVinfernoForestOfSuicides_m.jpg), perhaps?
I think you're right, I always found it a little cartoony, but Cubs' version has a more ethereal look.
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It does have a twisted, tortured tree spirit aspect to it, doesn't it? The writhing branches are really quite sinister.
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Yeah, I think you're right, it's exactly the same sculpt, with additions.
Brilliant paint job Cubs!
you just inspired me to look for my old BB treemen and move him up in the paintings list
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Nice thread, some very impressive paint jobs and repair work on very classic and characterful models. My favourites have to be the main characters of McDeath. I also noticed the earl of Harkness carries the same sword as pre-slotta Krell.
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A couple of lovely C28 Citadel giants - one is Markul Grimmock from the McDeath scenario pack collection and the other is just one for me, thanks to Richard Orclord Hale for supplying me with his spiked club, which was missing. I spent a lot of time getting different colours and textures into the skin, since I was working with such a big canvas and I thought if anyone's going to have a nasty complexion, it's these guys.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/GHMiPUGktnYn/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/Xh3mAdcbQYTo/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/zRVvacJMJkXT/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/XAD92iNxTJn8/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/gRnjUnjyUTJA/1k0.jpg)
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(https://myalbum.com/photo/xhfmvNSbGZJw/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/kMNB2hs4skZz/1k0.jpg)
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Those giants looks great, so much character. So dirty and gritty but excellently executed.
Also, those sculpts are pretty great. So much of a story is told with the giant standing there in an unmotivated pose while twirling his hair... and the pirate giant wielding a cannonball. It's awesome.
thanks
n
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Such character in these old miniatures
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Damn, those skin tones are perfect. Well done man!
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Those are wonderfully realistic. They really look like they live a rough life!
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The Giants are OUTSTANDING pieces; BEAUTIFULLY painted & based. You did a fine job bringing out their abundance of personality. VERY WELL DONE!
I had never seen either one of the Big Fellows before. That made the viewing even more of a treat.
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Yeah, those giants are brilliant!
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Incredible giants, the skin tones are amazing and love those old sculpts.
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Amazing painting!
I know those giants more from the old line drawings in Citadel catalogues than from photos, so it's great to see them done so splendidly.
Something I've always liked about those Perry designs is that some of the giants are decidedly different from just outsized ugly humans. Your second fellow here epitomises that, with his Bauer-troll nose and his three-fingered hands. I recall there was one head variant with no hair and a goblinish look - and was there a cyclops too?
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Amazing painting!
I know those giants more from the old line drawings in Citadel catalogues than from photos, so it's great to see them done so splendidly.
Something I've always liked about those Perry designs is that some of the giants are decidedly different from just outsized ugly humans. Your second fellow here epitomises that, with his Bauer-troll nose and his three-fingered hands. I recall there was one head variant with no hair and a goblinish look - and was there a cyclops too?
Yeah, it was an early experiment with multi-parts, with heads and weapons separate. Presumably you could select your own on mail order or just try your luck in a shop! They were great old models and truly TRUE GIANTS under the old rules with their wacky attack options, as opposed to standard Giants and Small Giants (which usually consisted of Nick Lund Ogres, Runequest Trolls, Cyclopes, Minotaurs etc.. in our games).
Picture is from Stuff of Legends.
(http://solegends.com/citc/c028giants/c1p33c28giantsx-02.jpg)
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Ah - that brings back memories! I always coveted the spiky head, second top in the right-hand column.
I'd forgotten that old Warhammer distinction between giant types. It's a great idea: the biggest "what you see is what you get" difficulty with most fantasy rules is reflecting the fact that one giant might be a quarter of the size of another.
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But then my brother had a plastic Ogre model from the big 54mm Fighting Fantasy range, which was bigger again! At some point you just have to say "Ah, it's close enough!"
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Such character in these old miniatures
yep, and fantastic paint-jobs.
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Cubbin amazing! ;)
Those are some big old dirty boys...
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Just fantastic!!!!!
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The palette and painting style you use fit so well on these old minis. Such eye candy!
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Not even sure I've ever seen these C28 giants. Great sculpts, and you really did a good job on the skin on those. Very cool.
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But then my brother had a plastic Ogre model from the big 54mm Fighting Fantasy range, which was bigger again! At some point you just have to say "Ah, it's close enough!"
I had the cyclopes f'ing enormous. But, the painting kept cracking and flaking, I think it end in the bin....
oh for shame
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Yet more McDeath, this time a lovely and most rare Citadel Turtle Dragon, 'The Monster of Loch Lorm' itself. What a unique miniature, a real beaut.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/cUMAdL4ESPu8/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/4aBkCYaiLiJ8/1k0.jpg)
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Well isn't that just marvellous. Outstanding work there.
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oh Turtle Dragon, you are most beautiful :-*
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That shell is amazing, fantastic!
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Wow :-*
That is art.
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Simply fantastic :o
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That’s ace
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Simply amazing painting, fantastic choice of colors on the miniatures in this thread!! :-* :-* :o
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Wow.
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Lovely :-*
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That's not painted. You found a really baby one and glued it to a base didn't you?
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Who doesn't love a Red Orc? Silly people, that's who.
I bring you the glorious Mogro Necksnapper of McDeath fame, plus a more modest footsoldier, both of whom sport that wonderful classic rust-red skin that was the norm for Orcs when I first got into the hobby.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/cyK4BukEv6sW/1k0.jpg)
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A splendid pair! There are a few orcs sporting that sort of hue in Heroes for Wargames. It looks great - especially with your brushwork!
Mogro Necksnapper's also a reminder that there's no particular reason why an orc leader has to be some ogre-sized lump. All the McDeath-era orc chiefs were much the same size as other orcs - as was Harboth.
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Just noticed the subtle bronze helmet - that's a great touch too!
And you've done as good a job on the halberdier's right arm as is humanly possible; it's no surprise that the slightly later armoured-orc variant got a chainmail sleeve!
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Super stuff
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And you've done as good a job on the halberdier's right arm as is humanly possible; it's no surprise that the slightly later armoured-orc variant got a chainmail sleeve!
Not the finest example of anatomical rendering is it? Odd, because the left arm is okay, but the misplaced musculature and odd crease on the inside of the elbow … not a fun bit to paint I must admit.
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Mogro Necksnapper's also a reminder that there's no particular reason why an orc leader has to be some ogre-sized lump. All the McDeath-era orc chiefs were much the same size as other orcs - as was Harboth.
Yeah, with him being an early slotta-base, he looks positively undersized next to pre-slotta Orcs benefitting from the extra height of their integrated base, before the scale-creep and steroid abuse of the Citadel Orcs began.
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Very nice indeed. Never very keen on the almost lime green highlights on the citadel orcs after a certain point in GW hisory Love the reddish skin.
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Another Spot - this time the official model with the smaller sting tail. I went for a paler colour scheme, closer to the original McDeath cover art.
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The orcs, dragon turtle and hound are all really fine! :-* Nice choice for a base for the dragon turtle. Proxie Models?
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The orcs, dragon turtle and hound are all really fine! :-* Nice choice for a base for the dragon turtle. Proxie Models?
I think so, yes, the customer provided it for me (he loves the hex bases).
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Love the Spot model. Your painting really makes it come alive. :-*
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Superb painting :o
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Incredible painting on some lovely old school miniatures
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For a dog with two heads and a scorpion tail, that's got to be the most natural paintjob I've ever seen on a hound! :o
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A lovely little personal project for myself to clear some of the lead pile and indulge in some nostalgia - Citadel Half Orc Hero, foot and mounted. I thought he was the 'Half Orc of Grim Countenance' in the FA listings (he certainly does have one) but I've been informed he's a C-series adventurer. Reminds me of the 60's/70's actor Hugh Griffith (look him up).
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Brilliant!
He's crying out (or yelling harshly) for a group shot with your other Aly Morrison half-orcs.
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I want to get a few more of those Half Orcs painted first, so I can get a decent group-shot going. I thought I'd been really good keeping my collections limited to rigidly set boundaries, but there's (obviously) still a huge lead mountain to work through.
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Wonderful painting! I am especially taken by the hound, the way you have captured the different textures, the wrinkly skin, the shaggy fur, the wet mouth, is great. I painted a dog once and it did not look half as good (although thinking about it I would be very pleased if any of my stuff looked half as good as any of yours). And that grim-countenanced orc; coming from a species not famed for its beauty he might be the most repellantly ugly I have seen.
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The half orc is superb. His face is full of charactor :o
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RilliNt! Love those severed heads too, great skin tone!
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Another Orc done for fun, with an added crossbow cord made from a plastic bristle from a cheap dustpan and brush set.
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That's a fantastic paint job - perfect for that model too; brings out all the charm of the sculpt.
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In the best possible way, that is one scrofulous looking sod. 8)
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Superb!
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I think you are my favorite painter. I love your use of black and dark coulurs in warm tones. Do you by chance have any tutorials about how you approach painting in this style floating around the internet?
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I think you are my favorite painter. I love your use of black and dark coulurs in warm tones. Do you by chance have any tutorials about how you approach painting in this style floating around the internet?
Thank you so much. I get the tutorial request a lot and I'm always embarrassed to say I don't do any (apart from a tutorial on painting British Airborne I did years ago). I honestly couldn't say what sort of process I go through when I paint, nor really what colours I use (I mix my own colours in 4-6 stage pots and have them ready on the desk).
In general I do paint from a black undercoat base and leave plenty of shadow in the creases when building up the layers towards the highlights. I use brown and black washes quite a lot to get shade and dirt effects and I like to use a lot of brown shades in general, sometimes using muddy brown flicks on the edges of things to show them as being dirty and tatty. I also like to put a tiny spot of extreme highlight on things occasionally, just on one or two points.
I do like to play with flesh tones as well and concentrate on faces, especially eyes, because that's what people look at first.
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Thank you so much. I get the tutorial request a lot and I'm always embarrassed to say I don't do any (apart from a tutorial on painting British Airborne I did years ago). I honestly couldn't say what sort of process I go through when I paint, nor really what colours I use (I mix my own colours in 4-6 stage pots and have them ready on the desk).
In general I do paint from a black undercoat base and leave plenty of shadow in the creases when building up the layers towards the highlights. I use brown and black washes quite a lot to get shade and dirt effects and I like to use a lot of brown shades in general, sometimes using muddy brown flicks on the edges of things to show them as being dirty and tatty. I also like to put a tiny spot of extreme highlight on things occasionally, just on one or two points.
I do like to play with flesh tones as well and concentrate on faces, especially eyes, because that's what people look at first.
Well, your explanation makes a lot of sense when I look through your various threads. Thank you for that.
I want to try out painting with more contrast myself. The use of pure white dots here and there, even on skin, is probably where I'll start. Do you mix in a lot of red into your browns? They have a certain warmness to them, which I really like.
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You make it sound so easy Cubs :)
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Do you mix in a lot of red into your browns? They have a certain warmness to them, which I really like.
I have a lot of brown shades ready (can't have too many) and some have red in. The Red Leather and Italian Yew (fairly arbitrary names I've given them really, depending on what I was about to paint when I mixed them up first time) have red in, but there's also dull shades like Khaki Brown, Butternut, Dull Leather, Chocolate .. etc ..
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Love it, that's an absolutely superb paint job. I'm especially impressed with the way you mix green and flesh tones on the muzzle and ears in such a convincing and naturalistic way. It's very difficult to paint 'dirty' without it looking muddy and dull, but it really works here and on your other figures.
Incidentally, some of the old Citadel sculpts were absolutely brilliant. I now have a feeling to go dig in the shed and see what's there.
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Fantastic.
I remember many of these figures when they were in my collection way back (a friend still has many of them stowed away in Quality Street tins in his garage). I agree with you on the orcs too. Those figures are what I envision when I think of orcs/goblins. I use to have a bunch of them and I'd love to get my hands on a big batch of them nowadays.
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Absolutely love this one - class! :-*
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Latest addition is 'The Editor' from the White Dwarf Personalities pack. I believe it's based on Ian Livingstone.
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:D He's awesome! Cracking job sir.
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Great skin tones on that, Cubs.
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That is simply superb. The flesh tones are just perfect. It reminds me of a Frazetta painting. I wish I had your command of colour.
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Must admit I don't recognise these miniatures even though a teen back in the 80's, the whole Citadel/GW thing just passed me by -but...I love looking at your painting Cubs. So impressed by the fleshtones & earthy "realism" of your work - wish I could figure out how some of it was done.
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Agreeing with the others, the face and skin are incredibly realistic. :-*
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That is just superb :o :-* 8)
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Thanks guys, very kind.
One thing I will say is that the sculpt helped me a lot - it's like a caricature and has a lot of great character built in.
The other thing is that I've started treating mins like a painting and I tend to put the colour and light where I think it will look good, not necessarily where the rules of layering say I should. That means it's not an even highlight, I usually go towards a point of light (the shoulder, the top of the forehead) and it's just the natural light at my desk that gives me the hint as to how the light will fall - I just exaggerate that.
As for the skin tones, I just use a 5 stage 'European Flesh' colour and then at the end I add a little red/pink with inks or watered down maroon paint, literally just brushing a little on here and there on the nose/cheeks and maybe hands.
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That's an absolutely stunning paintjob! Your 'painterly' approach is just fantastic.
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Awesome thread.
I remember playing the McDeath campaign as a teenager with my gaming pal and this thread brings back happy memories of a simpler time. Tempted to have a dig in my box of old rpg miniatures ....
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Gorgeous work!
I envy your skill with inks to shade different portions of the models' flesh.
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That's lovely work. :-*
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"Treating minis like a painting" - you'll be Blanchitsu-ing in no time :)
That editor is amazing - you've really brought him to life!
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Totally brill. I struggle with flesh tones and the editor is bang on. Well done indeed.
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Next up is Grombrindal himself, the original White Dwarf miniature, and Gobbledig-ook, a goblin who had his own comic strip in WD for a while but then seems to have quietly faded away, occasionally popping up as Grombrindal's lackey from time to time.
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Asian looks amazing! :)
Have you got his pal Nibl as well?
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Both excellent. If i may ask how did you handle painting the goblins face and especially the eyes. They look especially good.
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Great stuff, both of them.
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Both excellent. If i may ask how did you handle painting the goblins face and especially the eyes. They look especially good.
Well, the skin was just my normal layering thing, but I thought the little yellow specks would look a bit like scaly goblin skin. After the green went on I brushed on some watered down maroon on the nose, ears, mouth and around the eyes, with a lighter shade for highlight. The eyes were orange highlighted up to yellow, with the pupil in the middle. Then the extreme white highlights for shine I held the model and just looked where the light was already falling, then put in a quick speck with a thin brush. If the eyes are nice and big, I always try to put a light speck in the eyes so that it goes a little bit over the pupil - it seems to look better for some reason.
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Fantastic job on the skin. Really nice looking models.
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Thanks for the breakdown of the flesh and eye painting. Very useful.
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Next up are Agaroth the Unwashed, a smelly half-orc from the White Dwarf Personalities Boxed Set, and the Steve Jackson pirate model … which defies explanation.
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Great job! That snarl of Agaroth's looks suitably halitoxic! Great figure too, I've always thought.
There's something mildly disturbing about the Jackson pirate.
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Great job! That snarl of Agaroth's looks suitably halitoxic! Great figure too, I've always thought.
The face I like, but the weird slabs of whatever-it's-meant-to-be on the back … really annoying and frustrating. I left it as some sort of metallic armour, but who knows.
There's something mildly disturbing about the Jackson pirate.
He's leering creepily isn't he. The face is too real as well.
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The face I like, but the weird slabs of whatever-it's-meant-to-be on the back … really annoying and frustrating. I left it as some sort of metallic armour, but who knows.
I'd forgotten about that. When I painted mine, I couldn't work out if it was armour, badly sculpted arrows (but no bow) or a flanged mace carried in a very odd way. It's possible that the sculptor wasn't quite sure either - but going on the illustration (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-36dmJp1cuKo/Ttvhh4uUtXI/AAAAAAAAAUc/oWCS98F777Y/s1600/agaroth.png), your armour take seems to be correct.
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Wonderful work. That face is just perfect.
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Awesome :), I simply love Your painting style :).
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I'd forgotten about that. When I painted mine, I couldn't work out if it was armour, badly sculpted arrows (but no bow) or a flanged mace carried in a very odd way. It's possible that the sculptor wasn't quite sure either - but going on the illustration (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-36dmJp1cuKo/Ttvhh4uUtXI/AAAAAAAAAUc/oWCS98F777Y/s1600/agaroth.png), your armour take seems to be correct.
I searched and searched for a flippin' illustration because I was sure this must have been based on one, but couldn't find it. I can breathe a bit easier now, I think you're right and they're just strange blades of armour jutting out. Better on a picture to get a pleasing shape than on a miniature perhaps.
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Tremendous work. Love the half orc. :-*
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Thanks guys. It's a real joy to be able to paint up these Citadel legends. That's the great thing about doing this for a customer - they've got all the hassle of finding, buying and then storing the models whilst I get the fun of painting the classic collections I never had as a kid.
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Blasts from the pasts. Fantastic.
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Your skintones are great. Seriously great. love these old school minis even if they were a bit before my mini collecting time.
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fantastic.
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Just had to read this whole thread from pg 1 and wow...wow. Such amazing painting and dedicated repairs to some really lovely old sculpts. I think many of these sculpts probably pre-date my introduction to wargaming and collecting and painting little soldiers so thank you for the education and for the wonderful painting. Two particular highlights for me are the rehabilitation job you did on the runequest fighter on pg 2 and of course the beautiful Turtle Dragon :-*. Thanks again Sir!
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Just had to read this whole thread from pg 1 and wow...wow. Such amazing painting and dedicated repairs to some really lovely old sculpts. I think many of these sculpts probably pre-date my introduction to wargaming and collecting and painting little soldiers so thank you for the education and for the wonderful painting. Two particular highlights for me are the rehabilitation job you did on the runequest fighter on pg 2 and of course the beautiful Turtle Dragon :-*. Thanks again Sir!
Well thank you, those two are lovely models. The turtle dragon was for a customer, but the Runequest stuff is mine, all mine!
I started collecting Citadel stuff in the early 80's (about ten years before I was born … ahem) and these models were either ones I was able to buy with my pocket money, or more likely stuff I would drool over in the Citadel Journals and the adverts in White Dwarf, without being able to afford them.
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Marvellous as always. A real pleasure to look at.
The Steve Jackson pirate is properly odd, isn't he; though he does illustrate a sort of unapologetic self-referential weirdness that was a rather endearing characteristic of the early Citadel stuff - like all those army lists in Forces of Fantasy with their indecipherable in-jokes about the writers' friends, colleagues and gaming partners. They just didn't care that almost all of their readers would only get a small bit of the joke. I have to admit I rather like that attitude...
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Something a bit different now and my own fellas for a change.
Storytime : It was back in the early 80's when I first started taking notice of those little metal toys my brother had on his shelves. His love was the armies of Dwarves, Men of the West, East and North and Amazons. These were all 'Good' (well, neutral, but good-ish) armies so of course, if I was going to get in on the act, I'd have to be the baddies. He had a smattering of Orcs and Goblins (plus various Ogre and Troll types from various manufacturers) but I needed my own if I was ever going to win any battles (which was tragically rare). Hence, pretty much any evil dudes going were fair game. My goldfish attention span combined with my limited finances of the time resulted in me grabbing one or two boxes of as many different types of Regiment of Renown as I could find and finishing none of them. Spool forward 30-odd years and I'm now in a position to restock the old models I foolishly got rid of over the years, ignore those I never really liked (I confess I was never that keen on Grom's Goblin Guard or Mengil Manhide's Dark Elves) and grab some I never got round to the first time around.
The following is a sample miniature (painting to give me an idea of the right colour schemes for them) I've painted from each of the Regiments of Renown I have in the lead drawer right now, in various numbers. I just tried to stick to the stated uniform (where one is given in the blurb) whilst also tying the colour scheme in to my overall idea of a Malal-themed force, with black and white being prominent. Some of the regiments I have decided are just mercenaries, so have a different colour scheme.
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RR18 Eeza Ugezod's Mother Crushers - these Black Orcs were a massive game changer for me. Finally I had troops that could go toe-to-toe with my brother's Bugman's Rangers and be expected to win (assuming they hadn't been shot to pieces by crossbows first). As models ... hmmm ... I think the word 'uninspiring' springs to mind. They should look like terrifying gigantic warriors wielding cleaving pole arms and instead look like elderly Italian women wearily carrying a farm implement. Why the cloth rag on the head? Why the hidden face? Why the odd cloth wraps in weird shapes on the limbs (really frustrating to paint)? Why the weird shaped weapons? Why the odd off-balance pose? Oh well, they were the only Black Orc game in town, so they were essential. His head covering shows the old, cracked-hide effect I've been playing with lately, as shown on a couple of the guys.
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RR15 Throg's Hobgoblin Despoilers - Hobgoblins are one of those Warhammer races that suffered from lack of attention. I always quite liked their vaguely Eurasian flavour and of course the fact that they could frenzy but still wore armour. Another rare troop type who could take on Dwarves in a fair (ish) fight with some confidence. I like the models too, with their classic soldiery poses but with the swords casually resting on the shoulders. The shields are meant to have a device drawn in the blood of their enemies, which isn't easy to achieve in a way that looks good. I've gone for a filthy, messy effect as a bit of a dodge. There's a weird tradition of Hobgoblins having orangey skin and blue noses, which I couldn't stomach, so I went for reddish skin and blue bags under the eyes instead, which looks good to me.
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RR5 Harboth and the Black Mountain Boys - the originals. My first Regiment of Renown and just so bound with my first love of Warhammer and collecting models. The figures are almost like the distillation of the vintage Citadel Orc - bare foot, hunched, jaw-jutting, with the prototype 'choppa', years before such a thing made its first appearance in the rulebook. Why the almost Zulu-like tufts on the legs? Why the tiny shield clutched so tight to the body you wonder where the arm has gone? Why the oddly curved dagger with its strange attachments? Who cares, these boys are hammered indelibly into my memory and are the core of my collection.
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RR9 Mudat's Half Orc Mercenaries - I can't help but feel guilty about these guys. When I was a kid, I didn't care about Half Orcs one bit. They were … normal. Why would I want to collect them when they were no different from a human? Of course, now it's all about the models instead of the gaming, so I can appreciate their ugly beauty. These troops are all meant to be armed with maces and hammers according to the blurb, but instead have long hooked swords for some reason (another example of that great amateurish enthusiasm of the early Citadel days when designers and sculptors seem to have enjoyed patchy communication) which surprisingly have usually survived the years without breaking off. One thing which is a real ball-ache is the horrible mould lines that every single model seems to have, running down the face and shield. Not easy to clean off, but they are such an attractive set, it's worth the effort.
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RR16 Disciples of the Red Redemption - what impressionable young lad could fail to be excited by the idea of insane homicidal Chaos maniacs? Before I really understood about the Crusades or the religious orders of history, all I liked about these guys was that they were weird and could frenzy (at least I think they could - they did in our games anyway). I like the models too; such an understated sculpt that manages to neatly mesh the requirements of ranking up with movement and still looking like brooding, sinister Chaos monks. Great stuff. The back story is fun as well (look it up) as religious crusading bigots who embraced the hateful teachings of Khorne (a nice bit of subtle wisdom there) and should create a bit of interest with their final Malal comrades on my shelf.
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RR6 Mad Mullah Aklan'd's Death Commandos - yet another unit of mine that could frenzy (I was never accused of having too much strategy when I played the game). In the blurb, it is said that Mad Mullah Aklan'd was a wizard, but then later leaders of the regiment were chosen from captains of the guard. They mention his powerful 'religio-magic' that twisted the desert religions to his own purposes - surely the influence of a Chaos god (like Malal)! It's a bit hazy and certainly the Araby armies (and related) were another 'race' sadly ignored by GW. Fortunately I think you can get plenty of unofficial lists online to satisfy your appetite for Men of the East forces. I like these guys and the static 'soldier at attention' pose suits them. The blurb describes their uniforms being blue, but I thought they deserved something a little more ornate and decorative. I was going to put fancy trim on the cloak as well, but chickened out, given that I'd eventually have to replicate it on every damn trooper.
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Glorious as ever - and what a nostalgia trip (my first RoR was also the Black Mountain Boys)!
That black-orc skin colour is superb, and it fully redeems any failings in the model - all of which, I reckon, just come down to the marmite idiosyncrasies of the Nick Lund ranges. He certainly looks sinister enough now!
The Death Commando is brilliant too. Was the Mad Mullah's intellectual property bought out by Eeza Uzegod, do you suppose? And that half-orc face is amazing.
I've got a fair few of those hobgoblins kicking around in the cellar, I think; I now feel almost duty-bound to paint one up with a blue nose!
Oh - and a curious thing: did you know that Red Redemptionists pre-date Warhammer? They first appeared in Laserburn; Alternative Armies still carries the 15mm Asgard ones.
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Great work, and a great blast of nostalgia.
I didn’t have any of these as RoR, but I did have some of them from individual packs. Great to see them painted up so well.
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Wonderful stuff.
This thread continues to delight.
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Great to see these old figures, especially with such great paint jobs.
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Thanks guys, I'm glad they're giving joy to others as well.
Oh - and a curious thing: did you know that Red Redemptionists pre-date Warhammer? They first appeared in Laserburn; Alternative Armies still carries the 15mm Asgard ones.
No way! Well that might explain their rather deeper than normal backstory.
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Fantastic stuff cubs. Really love the half orc skin tone. I've got my half orcs on the painting desk at the minute (admittedly they are well down the queue)
Im going to try and put the ogre slave in the same unit.
Great stuff again
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I love this thread! So many memories. I know some of the castings seem rough looking back but still much more charactorful than some newer GW stuff. Harboth is a great miniature and just found him out in.the garage with the flying gargoyles of Barda i thought lost in a house move two years ago. Going to have a crack at some old citadel stuff. Thanks for the inspiration!
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Each one is really impressive -but the black orc & hobgoblin (at least for me) are superb!
Is it possible to get a closer shoot of their faces?
The blending you do on their faces is something I'd like to learn to do myself.
Thanks for sharing
cheers
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Each one is really impressive -but the black orc & hobgoblin (at least for me) are superb!
Is it possible to get a closer shoot of their faces?
The blending you do on their faces is something I'd like to learn to do myself.
Thanks for sharing
cheers
No! No close ups! Someone recently said I have an impressionist style of painting. Translation: it looks shite close up because my eyes are going bad with age.
Seriously, people ask about that malarkey all the time and there's no trick to it, it's very simple. I do the base skin tone - black, green, brown, whatever the main colour is - as normal. Then I decide which bits I want to have a different tone creeping in (often the tips of the ears, nose, eyes, mouth, even elbows, knees, fingertips and toes) and decide what colour I want them to be (a Eurasian flesh colour or pink is good, unless the main skin colour is already this shade, in which case dark pink or purplish can be effective). A little goes a long way on these, so don't overdo it - your eyes will pick up just a hint of the colour. Then I usually do a 3-stage, starting with the darkest colour which is diluted down and brush on gently to blend in with the main colour. The highlights are progressively less diluted and the last is just flicked here and there. Like I say, very simple, a little more time consuming perhaps but worth it.
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Exceptional work
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Bloody wonderful! Throw in some Dark Elves and your nostalgia looks very similar to mine :)
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No! No close ups! Someone recently said I have an impressionist style of painting. Translation: it looks shite close up because my eyes are going bad with age.
For 105 your really not doing badly. lol
Seriously though, I think your closeups would look much better than many of ours no matter how you have slipped. :)
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Okay, now this fella really is a labour of love and another one of my own. He's a Nick Lund Chronicle Orc Wolf Rider, back in the days when Orcs rode wolves and Goblins rode boars (well, Runequest Trollkin rode tuskers, but it's much the same). He was my only wolf rider back in the day and died ingloriously in every battle he ever foolishly fought in without causing a single casualty to my reckoning - once being brought down by 3 Dwarf cannon crew who threw stones at him (S1) as he charged in to combat. That was a low point.
The model was a pig to paint in fairness, with horrible vintage casting causing lumps of miscast metal all over the place, the odd Nick Lund details cropping up unexpectedly, the deep deep eye sockets on the Orc and the deep fur texture on the wolf. I took ages to get the colouring on the wolf just right, with lots of repainting and washes to get the final effect. I'm not a fan of the odd snouts the Chronicle wolves seem to have, but actually it's painted up fairly well and now that it's all done they're a handsome enough couple. I may leave him on his own for a while as a homage to his past service.
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Fantastic work as always. Marvellous colours on the wolf!
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He's splendid! Tremendous work on rider and mount alike.
These are still the best wolfriders ever made, I reckon - for all their anatomical anomalies and general lumpeness. For all that their snouts are a bit odd, the wolves just 'read' right to me: still broadly wolf-shaped but big enough to be terrifying.
The riders are oddly intermediate between the small Chronicle orcs and the later, bigger ones. But they're really menacing. Actually, I think they're probably the best miniatures around for Runequest Tusk Riders (something I've been puzzling over lately) - but it would be the purest heresy to mount them on boars!
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Magnificent work on both the rider and the wolf.
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That really does look excellent, well worth the effort.
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I think this is your best yet. The life you’ve got into the wolf’s face is unnerving.
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They’re not to everyone’s taste, but I’ve always loved Nick Lund’s Orcs and Hobgoblins anyway and your painting really brings this one to life. They might be rough and ready but they always look like they mean business. Anyway, top daubing 👍
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Thanks guys, very kind. It wasn't until the matt varnish went on that the fur on the wolf looked okay! Up to that points, he looked too shiny and with me holding the model during painting, it got smoothed over in places and the paint was wearing off. I had to add more dark grey before spraying.
I think this is your best yet. The life you’ve got into the wolf’s face is unnerving.
Funny how just that small area of the wolf's face kind of dominates the whole thing by drawing the eye straight away? The Orc's face is pretty much obscured and the natural brown shades throughout forced me to get something eye-popping somewhere. I wanted the mouth to look very red, with a glistening tongue and I'm happy how it's worked out.
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Amazing, the wolf looks like it's actually salivating
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Amazing, the wolf looks like it's actually salivating
Just little spots of pure white, to make it looks glistening. Effective innit? Like most everything else I do, I nicked it off someone else's hard work.
I have to say, I have new respect for anyone who paints wolves (or anything else I guess) in their natural multi-shaded hue. It's bloody time consuming and frustrating trying to get exactly the look you're trying to copy.
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Superb. The wolfs pelt looks so realistic!
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That wolf is amazing, what to paint mine? Different rider though....
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That wolf is amazing, what to paint mine? Different rider though....
Hell no! Not after what I went through. o_o o_o
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Oh come on, you know hpw it's done now... I have four fresh from the 1980s and a "lone wolf" with n rider covered in a cm of undercoat....
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incredible job on the chronicle wolf and rider.
I have such 'fond' (?) memories of that range - and buying a large number of such figures from mr. Lund at a games day (was gonna do the battle of five armies iirc) - but when I see the few that are still available new these days, can't work up much enthusiasm.
just shows what a gifted painter can bring out.
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I have Mangle and Orc Carrier - which I believe is that same as yours in the end. But, Dwarf Annilator is def the best name, with ugly....
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It's either Orc Carrier or Longtooth, they're very similar.
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It's all in the pummel/swell/horn thingy...
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It's all in the pummel/swell/horn thingy...
Ah yes, I see it!
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Fantastic paintwork- these look amazing
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I badgered Richard Orclord Hale to let me paint some of the McDeath clansmen, since I'd done the rest of the range and all. Yeesh, be careful what you wish for! Painting tartan is a ball-ache and very time consuming, but it's really just geometric repetition - I take it slow, keep the brush and the paint thin and try to keep the lines straight!
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Cripes, those are well done. Tartantastic!
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Braw and bricht!
Amazing faces on those - the bottle-wielder in particular.
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amazing - particularly the last fellow with the yellow-y tartan.
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Brilliant work Paul, really good.
I think I've got the McDeath box set somewhere, no figures from it though.
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Brilliantly executed Cubs :-* :-* :-*
I have to say, I think I've met all four of those gentlemen in my time when I was living up in Edinburgh! No offence to any of mu Scottish chums- just a wee but of a lark :)
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amazing faces? Tartan?
Even their socks!
Socks!
Always great to see what you done sir
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The tartan is superb! Excellent. Bless you must have been a bit boss eyed after painting these clansmen.
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pure excellence!
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Thanks peeps, like I say, tartan isn't so bad if you plan what you're going to do and take it slow, but it's tough on the eyes and is slooooow.
There's a bit of conversion going on now, just for fun. I don't normally like converting old classic models, but when you've got a couple of dozen of them and they're all the same … I say they're fair game.
These are the Harboth's Regiment of Renown Orcs and I wanted a little bit of variety. The arms have been cut off at the shoulder and the weapon (the 'dwarf tickler', forerunner of the choppa) cut off the ankle, with varying degrees of collateral damage. The repositions aren't overly natural, but I wanted the raised arms to add a bit of height to the unit when assembled, because the rest will be all hunched over. A Greenstuff/Milliput blend has been used to plug the gaps and reconstruct where necessary. For the third figure (a variant carrying a polearm) the blade was removed from his weapon and a plasticard replacement was carved just for him - something that actually resembles the 'dwarf tickler' from the illustration in the fluff for Harboth's regiment.
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Those Tartans are spectacularly good. Especially the colour choices. All too often people make the colours too garish, and the patterns too simplistic. The yellow one is especially good. I've copied the pictures as inspiration for some Jacobites I have on the workbench.
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Those Tartans are spectacularly good. Especially the colour choices. All too often people make the colours too garish, and the patterns too simplistic.
Yeah, I looked through tartan patterns and chose ones that I thought were easily achievable and looked effective. Sometimes the addition of a little red line made it pop, sometimes it made it too messy. I used black ink to crisp up the edges of the colour bands as well, which I think helps. Getting that balance isn't easy. The green one disappears a bit with the black squares and green bands, but I did want that one to be more muted.
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There's a bit of conversion going on now, just for fun. I don't normally like converting old classic models, but when you've got a couple of dozen of them and they're all the same … I say they're fair game.
I used to feel the same - to the extent that my teenage greenstuff-converted heads are all outsized so that they could be peeled off by some future restorer! But now I think that the end product is all that matters. These look really good - and the big dwarf-tickler 'reads' better than the original glaive, which has its head attached so that the cutting edge is too far back, I think. It's a rare thing to improve on the Perrys ...
Are you going to alter any of the faces? I recall John Blanche discussed and illustrated adding a thick head of hair to the polearm variant in a Citadel journal ...
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Are you going to alter any of the faces? I recall John Blanche discussed and illustrated adding a thick head of hair to the polearm variant in a Citadel journal ...
My teenage self added a pipe cleaner mohawk to a couple of them, but now I can't bring myself to do it! I was considering cutting the head off and repositioning it for an open-mouthed yell, but in the end decided it was too much hassle and would risk me turning it into a hot mess.
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Bit late; those highlanders are brilliant :-*
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Gorgeous highlanders.
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Stunning paint work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Wow. The highlanders are "Tartantastic" indeed.
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Gorgeous :-*
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Amazing stuff Cubs! :o I really like your painting style. Loving the RQ miniatures and all the varied skin tones on those old school Orcs. That Chronicle wolf. Wow!
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Love checking in on this thread. Gorgeous work, Paul.
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A couple more mins from the 80's now. First is Ugbash Facesplitter, one of the White Dwarf Personalities, apparently a half-orc. He's taken from a single ink illustration from what I can tell. The other guy is a knight or paladin to be used as an alternate Harkness Knight for McDeath. He carries what appears to be an accordion for some reason. Who am I to judge?
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Brilliant on both - and you manage to make that huge sword look almost feasible! Ugbash is, ahem, quite a beauty when he's given treatment like this!
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I've got that second figure, which I'm now never going to paint. The painting on that face is just amazing.
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These just get better and better.
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Marvellous work.
I wonder what the accordion was about. But, as you say, why not?
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my goodness - your faces! amazing.
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That face looks photo-shopped! See how he only shows it from one angle! Clearly fake!
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of course it's invidious to single out the faces ... the whole style is just wonderful. Freehand on that shield too ...
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Bwhahaha! You'll never prove a thing!
What pisses me off is that the paintjob all looks silky smooth to my aged eyes and then I take the close-up photo and it looks … 'impressionist'.
Faces are my thing - I always try to concentrate on them where possible (especially the eyes) because that's where the life comes from in the model. I paint the eyes in straight after the face has its dark base coat. That way I can tidy them up, get them nice and narrow, shape them and line up the pupils without worrying I'm going to spoil the skin already painted. I also like to put little bags under the eyes. It just seems to add something.
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The shield and the face on the Knight are fantastic. I would say that face is more realistic than impressionistic. The accordion must be some strange but powerful artifact he can't live without.
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Lovely painting throughout this entire thread of miniatures I've mostly never seen before. I love the freehand work on shields and some of the orc skins in particular.
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Great to see the Grombrindal figure. I had this way, way back and I think a friend still has it stashed away in a box in his garage.
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Great to see the Grombrindal figure. I had this way, way back and I think a friend still has it stashed away in a box in his garage.
And still the best! It's good for sculptors to push the boundaries of poses and subjects, to show dynamism and use the potential of the material they're working with. But for me, less is so much more. Plenty of modern sculptors do this with lovely understated models, realistic proportions and natural poses. Citadel used to do this, but now rarely do so.
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Some more club-armed old Citadels for use as McDeath Maltmen from the brewery.
The 'liquid in bottle' effect I'll be honest, I Googled a 'How To' video. Came out nice in the end, although someone's pay cheque may be docked to reflect too much sampling of the wares.
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They look great, shabby and characterful.
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Outstanding work. The liquid in the bottle is really marvellously done.
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Bloody lovely Cubs.
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Great sculpts, painted brilliantly!
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Bloomin' Brilliant Brushwork! The basing is very cool too :)
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Fantastic work Cubs.
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Superb! That fellow in the blue sash is a bit of a monster!
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There is a fair bit of size difference going on there, and only a couple of years between them. The wee fella with the bottle is pre-slotta (an old FS series brought forward into the C series) so probably in 'true' 25mm scale, with the others likely being the oversized 25mm or 28mm. It works nicely with these guys, being a rag-tag bunch anyway. The club-armed models used for the Maltmen are almost all taken from the C-series 'civilians', including the Citadel militia, townsfolk, travelling players, villagers, etc.. and lovely mins they are too.
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Lovely work, as always. There is a pretty noticeable size difference, but then you’re mixing typically dinky Perry’s with chunky Copplestone.
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Awesome paintwork. Really, stunning.
Now, I must either never consult this thread again, or I must sell half my mini collection (the Black Mountain Boys, the Citadel Personalities and whatnot) because the ones I have in boxes in my loft aren't even a tenth as nice as these, and the reason must be that you are a great painter and I'm an absolute muppet.
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The figures are great but that bottle steals the show :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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More oldies (and another damn bottle) off the painting desk. 5 scruffy types armed with clubs/cudgels/mallets as McDeath Maltmen and 2 old Citadel Thieves. I didn't realise the thieves have the same basic body template until I started painting them ... very clever. I love the character and life in the faces of these old models.
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😳😳😳. WOW incredible brushwork but that bottle...
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Lovely stuff. Yes, bags of character in those faces. But the bottle is the show stealer...
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Excellent! I love the plaid, and the way you capture/create the overall scruffiness. And as always, your basing is fantastic.
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Brilliant work, as usual!
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The brush work here is fantastic! Leagues beyond anything I can pull off. But what do you use for the bases? It looks like several different tuft types? Some looks like peat moss or something. What’s that from?
Cheers!
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Totally brill. The faces are excellent!
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Cracking job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Some outstanding details
the faces are amazing but that bottle looks real :o :o :o
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Cracking 8)
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Thanks guys, they are lots of fun to do, but this batch was odd in that halfway through I really felt disappointed with them and wasn't feeling it. Odd how that sometimes happens. By the end I was happy with them, it's just that middle phase seemed to take forever and I wasn't happy with them.
But what do you use for the bases? It looks like several different tuft types? Some looks like peat moss or something. What’s that from?
Yeah, just different tufts and my homemade moss tufts. I buy bags of 1mm flock in bulk, blend them to get the shade I want (literally, green, brown, yellow and black) and then use a static grass applicator to make little fuzzy moss tufts. All the commercial moss tufts I've seen use 2mm flock which is longer than I want.
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Wonderful realistic paint jobs on all of them. I had never seen these before. Who sculpted them?
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So good! :-*
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Wonderful realistic paint jobs on all of them. I had never seen these before. Who sculpted them?
Honestly don't know, but I'm going to guess one (or both) of the Perry's. There's something about the faces that says 'Perry' to me.
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Great work
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Some are Perry
The others could be, with some Aly mixed in:
http://www.solegends.com/citc46/198710c46militia/index.htm
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Something for the weekend, sir? These days the best I can hope for is an indulgent painting side-project for myself. This weekend it was a start on my Runequest 'Humanoid Adventurers' Boxed Sets #1. I always love the fact that they're real adventurers, laden down with all sorts of bags and bundles, although it does increase painting time a wee bit. Here we have a well-heeled Daka Fal (Ancestor Worship) adventurer with 'Mankind' rune on his shield, an angry Storm Bull (Chaos Killer) adventurer with 'Beast' rune on his shield and a chilly looking Eiritha (Mother of Herds) adventuress who doesn't have a shield, but who would have had a 'Fertility' rune if she did. But she didn't. So she doesn't.
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Superb! The Storm Bull chap's got a proper "bottler's face" - and the startled look of the Eritha worshipper makes me think she's just spotted a broo among the herds!
That beast-rune shield is amazing.
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Lovely work sir, I can easily see them walking through me screen to go adventuring!
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Thanks guys. In case anyone's wondering, yes that is a wire spear. A lot of the Runequest line have very slender spears, which look lovely but rarely survive the years. The hand was drilled (and reconstructed when the fingers and thumb fell off!), the sections where it touched the body were snipped off and a nice new spear put in place.
That beast-rune shield is amazing.
The rune took a little while, but it was just a case of going slow with a thin brush and thin paint.
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Fantastic work on these. It's such a great range of figures, and a real treat to see them painted so well. And the runes are outstandingly done.
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Magnificent as always.
I agree the adventurer's kit really makes the figures when done properly like this, but so many sculptors suffer from kitchensinkitis when it comes to a figure's equipment!
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Cracking work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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For unknown reasons no one I gamed with growing up played Runequest. Nice figures with fantastic paint jobs.
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Some more Runequest adventurers from the 'Runequest Boxed Set #1: Humanoid Adventurers'.
First is the Waha adventurer. He should have been with the last batch, but his axe was broken and needed to be rebuilt. The 'horns' of the axe have been rebuilt with greenstuff and the hatf is brass wire covered in greenstuff and then textured. Waha is a cult of nomads (which makes you wonder why he has a tower design on his shield!), so I've painted him in natural colours and animal hides.
Second is the Humankt adventurer. Humankt is an honourable warrior cult of war and death, so his shield shows the 'truth' rune associated with the cult and his colour scheme is based around red and black.
Third is the Seven Mothers adventurer. Seven Mothers is a moon cult, defenders of the Lunar Empire. As such his shield (and helmet) display the moon rune prominently and his colour scheme shows blues, blacks and dark greys.
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Amazing! The runes on the shields are superbly done - and the Seven Mothers guy, who I always thought of as a slightly bland figure compared with the others, has come to life really well. Bravo!
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Great work mate!
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Sublime 8)
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Thanks dyoods, very kind. I've just been reliably informed that what was labelled as the Waha adventurer in the boxed set, was in fact the Pavis adventurer, and vice-versa. Bugger. To be honest, I suspected it might be the case, because of their respective shield designs, but I doubted myself. Now I'll have to repaint it (pain in the arse, although I wasn't over-happy with it if I'm honest) or buy a replacement and repaint that (meh ... more money and more work).
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Wonderful!
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Perfect marriage of characterful sculpts and masterful painting. One of the best threads on here.
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Lovely painting on some of my favourite miniatures :)
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Stunning paint jobs :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Excellent work on these.
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Ah, I had the last two of those. Not the first one though - must have been in a different set.
I only shipped them on on eBay a couple of years back, having sat in a box for 30 years ::)
Great work on those shields :-*
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Lovely work.
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Ah, I had the last two of those. Not the first one though - must have been in a different set.
I only shipped them on on eBay a couple of years back, having sat in a box for 30 years ::)
You filthy filthy liar! No, they're all from the first 'Humanoid Adventurers' (I wonder why it wasn't just 'human'?) Boxed Set #1, but the first one often has a broken axe these days.
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Thank you all. They are lots of fun to paint, but as with all the pre-slotta stuff, they need a bit more clean-up than modern figures to get rid of casting crap, and you often get some odd lumps in 'dead space'. The trade off is the wonderfully characterful sculpting. I really do think sculptors (or maybe just them darn Perry boys) were way ahead of the general standard of our painting back then and a lot of their subtlety was never brought to life. These days we can all improve our painting with any number of tips online and inspirational pics to help us old dogs learn new tricks.
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That is quite an array of WONDERFUL old treasures, all BEAUTIFULLY painted & based. VERY WELL DONE!
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You filthy filthy liar! No, they're all from the first 'Humanoid Adventurers' (I wonder why it wasn't just 'human'?) Boxed Set #1, but the first one often has a broken axe these days.
lol screw U
Well, that’s a mystery...
It was a purple and pink box IIRC, and had 10 figures in it, in a grey sponge tray... but that first one with the axe was definitely not one of them... To be fair, I’m pretty sure I picked them up in a swap (this was like, the best part of 40 years ago ::)) so I guess whoever I got them from could have substituted a figure or two...
Here are a few of them before I sold them on a couple of years back... painted in Humbrol enamels by my teenage self. Isn’t age wonderful? ::)
As you see, there was a figure with an axe - but he had horns on his helmet. Not the same as yours...
Also it definitely included the swordsman with the shield on his back in the Corinithian helmet. Don’t know what became of him...
Hmmm. Now I’m intrigued lol
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Right, okay, here's the one incorrectly labelled as a Waha adventurer (a plains nomad cult), repainted as a Pavis adventurer (a city, not a cult). On second inspection, none of the adventurers in the boxed set have a design that fits with Waha, so I'll just swap round the Waha and Pavis models (as labelled on the box) and smooth out the rune on the Pavis guy's shield (which doesn't fit with either Pavis or Waha, so Jehovah only knows what was going on in the studio back in the day). Back to this fella though, just a quick repaint on the tunic, to make it less rustic and more refined looking (although still mucky ... he is an adventurer after all) and ditto with the shield. The metalwork was brightened up and polished as well and his crest brightened up to match the tunic. I prefer him this way to be honest.
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Here are a few of them before I sold them on a couple of years back...
That guy on the left shouldn't be there, he's not in the boxed set, which might explain matters.
Dude with the horns is a Storm Bull adventurer (anti-Chaos berserkers, see earlier on in this thread for him), the girl is Chalana Arroy (healing), the big fella with club is Issaries (trade and commerce), the guy on the end with scimitar is Seven Mothers (lunar cult, as seen in this batch). The original boxed set had the picture of the bikini-clad girl with a big bronze shield fighting a big lizardman on the front.
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That is a fantastic paint job, as always, Cubs! love the darks, it makes the white tunic jump.
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Right, okay, here's the one incorrectly labelled as a Waha adventurer (a plains nomad cult), repainted as a Pavis adventurer (a city, not a cult).
Glorantha nerdery incoming! (Nerdery, on a gaming forum, who could have predicted that? :) )
Pavis is both a city and a cult. Pavis, who is now worshipped as a god, founded the city. There is a ziggurat temple to him in New Pavis, which would make a nice shield image, and an older temple in the Big Rubble. I suppose the symbol that adventurer is using depicts one of the defensive towers in the city walls.
Pavis is primarily associated with the Man rune, though his cult also displays Earth, Harmony, and Stasis runes.
I love these old RQ miniatures. I never owned any myself as they went out of production around the time I first got interested. You've done a cracking job on them, I must say.
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Pavis is both a city and a cult.
Ay carumba, no wonder I used to get so confused with it all.
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Belting work Cubs!
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Excellent painting
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Love the minis!
Glorantha nerdery incoming! (Nerdery, on a gaming forum, who could have predicted that? :) )
Pavis is both a city and a cult. Pavis, who is now worshipped as a god, founded the city. There is a ziggurat temple to him in New Pavis, which would make a nice shield image, and an older temple in the Big Rubble. I suppose the symbol that adventurer is using depicts one of the defensive towers in the city walls.
Pavis is primarily associated with the Man rune, though his cult also displays Earth, Harmony, and Stasis runes.
I love these old RQ miniatures. I never owned any myself as they went out of production around the time I first got interested. You've done a cracking job on them, I must say.
Um, perhaps we crossed paths at Convulsion...
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A couple more lads from the Runequest Adventurers (#1) Boxed Set.
First fella (with axe) is mislabelled as Pavis (city cult) on the box (probably a mix-up between the Pavis and Waha adventurers) but he had the wrong shield design so I've done him as Waha (plains nomad). I've added a slight dome to the shield and painted it as bronze covered in animal hide with a Death Rune branded onto it, (as befits a plains nomad type) and leather vambraces.
Second fella is the Yelmalio (sun and sky) adventurer. I've done him in bright colours with a white cuirass (painted bronze or linen, you takes your choice) and sun design, with matching shield.
Only two more to go until this boxed set is complete!
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Stunning! I remember the Yelmalio guy from the days of yore, but the axe-wielding chap had quite escaped my memory - possibly because he looked fairly unassuming in the lead: no longer!
Do you have other Runequest stuff up your sleeve after this box is done? Trolls? Broo? Dragonewts?
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Do you have other Runequest stuff up your sleeve after this box is done? Trolls? Broo? Dragonewts?
There's the second boxed set, Humanoid Adventurers (with a couple of trolls, duck, morocanth, baboon and dwarf as well as a couple of other humans) and then the Trolls boxed set.
I forgot to say, I'm replacing the spears and slimmer weapons where necessary with wire ones. Even the original spears were often awful, without any sort of spearhead, just thin sticks in the hand. Runequest was quite big on long spears both in the rules and on the mins.
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Lovely work again there Cubs. You are certainly doing these miniatures full justice with your fantastic paintjobs :-*
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Fantastic work Cubs, you're inspiring me to paint the olds RQ figures I have, at least the ones that are still in serviceable condition.
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It's been a while since I last looked in on this thread and it's great to see these old runequest figures. I use to have this set and I remember how good the figures were and they still look fantastic by today's standards.
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Thanks dyoods, I do love the old models you know. No rose-tinted specs here, there are some awful models from that time and even the good ones were too often poorly cast. But the character, the understated dynamics, the proportions just appeal to me so much more than most modern ranges.
When I've finished this boxed set I might take a short break from the Runequest stuff and hit some of the my other Citadel goodies in the the pile.
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So my brother and I don't have a lot of spare cash and sometimes we just exchange some of the stuff gathering dust on our respective shelves instead of buying presents for Christmas and birthdays.
This Christmas MrsCub bought me the old Talisman 2nd Edition and we had a game. I told my brother about this and he said he had a couple of old Talisman figures he'd send me as a late present.
Today this parcel came through the post. Holy crap. So ... I guess that's this year's Oldhammer project sorted then!
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Nice score. You have a very generous brother. I hate to think what you’d have to shell out to buy that little lot.
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Superb!
Love most of the Talisman figures, very 80s GW.
Look forward to seeing what you do with them
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Cannot wait to see these folks coloured in by your wonderful brush skills; 2021 just got a whole lot better! Send your Bro a big LAF hug!
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Amazing body of work in this thread, they all look like the kind of character's we'd have seen if Velasquez had painted fantasy.
A pleasure to come back to again and again.
Keep them coming.
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Very bright painting!
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Svenn very kindly 'sold' me 3 Runequest Broo to me for little more than postage (I was only trying to buy the one, and that was cheap, but he very generously lobbed in a couple of bonus Broo in the parcel). I love the generosity of spirit you find on this forum.
Anyhoo, I've always vowed never to start collecting Broo because that's a very expensive rabbit hole to fall down, but I couldn't resist. Here's the wee fella who has kicked it all off.
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He's terrific! Great colours - and what a face!
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Gorgeous as every PJ you do.
So you have two more to do?
Then squad, skirmish or full on themed army? :D
I can say that i don't need to bother getting any now, as yours is so much better than I could do, so I guess that's something I am immune to for a change!
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So you have two more to do?
Then squad, skirmish or full on themed army? :D
Yeah, there are two unicorn-headed Broo, which will no doubt get coloured in some time. The Runequest goodies are there purely for lookin' at, with not even the excuse of a pie-in-the-sky gaming force. The other Citadel goodies I'm painting are for my (purely theoretical I'm sure) Malal warband. Malal is the mysterious 5th Chaos God (who I first read about in the Citadel Journal Kaleb Daark comic strip) whose only purpose seems to fight the other Chaos factions. So I have a collection of vintage Citadel Orcs, Half Orcs, Hobgoblins, Chaos Warriors and eebly Humans who sport the black and white badge of Malal and who are potentially all part of the same Chaos/Anti-Chaos warband.
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... he said he had a couple of old Talisman figures he'd send me as a late present.
If that's "a couple" I don't dare to imagine his meaning of "a lot"
Really looking forward to see the paint job you can do on these
Ages ago I got mines already painted and I always debate between keeping them painted or stripping it to paint them again myself, but I´m afraid they end just enlarging the pile of unpainted lead
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Still in a 35 year old lead pile on Monday and superbly coloured in and on the forum by Thursday :o
I bet a lot don't realize he is only half the height of a C33 Beastman from a few years later.
Great work which I never doubted and just what he deserved.
Svennn
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Still in a 35 year old lead pile on Monday and superbly coloured in and on the forum by Thursday :o
I bet a lot don't realize he is only half the height of a C33 Beastman from a few years later.
Great work which I never doubted and just what he deserved.
Svennn
I was excited, I could stop myself! He totally jumped the queue, but then he is Broo, no moral centre. Yeah, his hunched, scuttling pose makes him all the nastier to me and I knew he needed a really disturbing, unnatural paint-job to bring that out.
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Looks splendid.
Your paint work on these figures is fantastic as always, but you're also reminding me how great Runequest was (is). Or at least how great I thought RQ was back in the day. Nostalgia overload.
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The way you have executed the shading and highlights on the face is incredible.
Really beautiful to look at, thanks for sharing.
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Fantastic painting as always
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That is a mad and wonderful figure, and beautifully painted.
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Blimey this thread just gets better n better every time you post something else. Amazing stuff :o 8) :o 8)
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Top stuff - that Broo is a real trip down memory lane.
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This is a great thread and a real trip down memory lane. I think I was still using humbrol gloss enamels and the equivalent of a masonry brush when most of these figures first appeared. Your work is stunning.
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This is a great thread and a real trip down memory lane. I think I was still using humbrol gloss enamels and the equivalent of a masonry brush when most of these figures first appeared. Your work is stunning.
Agree completely, in fact what exactly what was a undercoat? lol
Stunning and makes very very envious of your superb collection, keep up the good work
Glen
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Superb work, never got into the RQ figures all those years ago.
Kicking myself now, lovely sculpt and stunning paint job
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A quick diversion to tackle the first of the Talisman models - the Troll. I tried to stay pretty close to the picture on his card, but a little snazzier. The base is just plain grass (to match the 'Outer Region' on the playing board), because these models are going to be very much playing pieces, not just display pieces.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/JePFY5SXyE2T/1k0.jpg)
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(https://www.talismanisland.com/mini_2troll_card.jpg)
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Superb work, another classic from my teen years!
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Lovely stuff. 8)
Drawing a knife or scratching his crack...?
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He's terrific! The red eye-sockets are a lovely touch - they somehow ground the green skin in reality.
That model always makes me think of the trolls in Jack Vance's Lyonesse: grumpy and grudging, yet committed to doing a job well (especially cudgelling someone mercilessly).
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Drawing a knife or scratching his crack...?
Both, its a Troll..
But superbly done, "playing piece"... wish my playing pieces came out looking that good :D
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Wow, lovely work! The soil on the knees is a nice touch!
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Thanks guys, he's a fantastic model (even if he does have an itchy bum) and was a joy to paint. I've got a couple more Talisman guys to do for a game we have planned (my wife, my daughter and I picked our characters in advance to give me time to paint them up!) but first up are a couple more Runequest adventurers to finish off the first boxed set.
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Excellent! Really love this miniature
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Last two figures from the Runequest 'Humanoid Adventurers' Boxed Set #1: an Issaries (communication and trade) adventurer and a Chalana Arroy (healing) adventurer.
For reasons best known to himself, this big Issaries veteran has decided those little fiddly weapons aren;t for him and has armed himself with a telegraph pole. His shield shows the 'movement' rune.
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This lightly armed Chalana Arroy healer has clearly decided to go for the minimalist approach, when it comes to armour, weapons, and indeed clothes. I always feel better about adventuring and healing people when my butt cheeks are hanging out.
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Great work on some classic figures. I’ve got them stashed away somewhere.
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I always feel better about adventuring and healing people when my butt cheeks are hanging out.
I'm so glad to hear that it's not just me.
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I'm so glad to hear that it's not just me.
Saves on cleaning when something leaps out unexpectedly.
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"Pants-optional Adventuring" - could be a trend...
Beautiful work. I have that Issaries figure, which I will now never paint, and always thought he had a Hercules kind of vibe.
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Of course at this time of year, everyone starts thinking about planning for Halloween, so it only makes sense that for no apparent reason, I've been inundated with commissions for painting witches. Here are some Citadel classic witchy types with suitable accessories.
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Damn fine witches, and ooh your tartans
As always wonderful work.
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Plus some more. Fans of the old Griselda stories set in the Runequest world, published in White Dwarf and elsewhere, may be interested in seeing 'Griselda' and 'Wolfhead' from the 'White Dwarf Personalities' boxed set. Also featured here today is the Bryan Ansell character model, Sir Bryan de Llanse, one of a series of fun (if slightly indulgent) models made of the studio staff.
According to the description, Griselda is slight of stature and frame, but athletic and surprisingly strong, with red hair and a pale complexion. She is also very attractive, but for a disconcertingly intense stare which intimidates and makes people uncomfortable. When not out adventuring in 'The Rubble' outside the city of Pavis she normally wears leather clothing and always carries her short sword, with which she is deadly quick.
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Wolfhead is Griselda's companion (just a companion) and nominal leader of her criminal gang. He is deeply tanned, a grizzled veteran of the rough city streets and 'The Rubble', having survived countless adventures and is reckoned one of the most dangerous fighters in Pavis. Whilst not a full member of any cult, like Griselda he has connections to Orlanth (adventurer), Pavis (city cult) and Lanbril (thief cult) and I have painted the illusion rune on his shield.
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Here is Sir Bryan, with his shield painted in the GW colours.
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Yes those tartans! I have no idea how you achieved the overall worn and faded tartan, it’s quite amazing.
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Really fantastic painting. Well done.
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Yes those tartans! I have no idea how you achieved the overall worn and faded tartan, it’s quite amazing.
Ah now, inks and washes are your friend there. Dull fabrics like wool don't really shine much, so I find putting in highlights is less useful than putting in shade after your pattern goes on. Plus, the shadow then hides the pattern and the light reveals it, just as it would in real life.
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Thanks Cubs, do you dilute the inks and washes with medium? Love this thread.
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The faces are great :-* :-* :-*
And that tartan is amazing :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Great stuff, as usual mate!
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Thanks Cubs, do you dilute the inks and washes with medium? Love this thread.
Hell no, if anything I try to find glaze mediums to thicken them up.
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Griselda and Wolfhead are fantastic/ beautiful :-*
I still read the stories off and on ,the author basing his writing style on Runyon if I remember correctly :)
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Magnificent stuff!
As a curiosity, when is Halloween in the UK? Those who observe it here (not really in the House of Fish) tend to do so in October.
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Beautiful brushwork. :-*
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Magnificent stuff!
As a curiosity, when is Halloween in the UK? Those who observe it here (not really in the House of Fish) tend to do so in October.
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Griselda and Wolfhead are fantastic/ beautiful :-*
I still read the stories off and on ,the author basing his writing style on Runyon if I remember correctly :)
Yeah, I'd not read the stories back in the day, so I bought the 'Complete Griselda' PDF from a place called DriveThruFiction (all of $3) to get some ideas for the characters. In my head I gave the narrator a vaguely Greek/Turkish accent which actually worked very well with the tense-blind writing style! The stories are fine if you accept them as fun pulp; they give a nice flavour for the setting and do make you want to play the game.
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Awesome work, I'd never noticed the Citadel logo on Sir Brian's shield before.
Keep them coming, they're always a pleasure to behold.
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So what's next then? I got some Old School LOTR Uruk-Hai, some Talisman characters and some Runequest Broo.
Decisions, decisions ...
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Jaw-dropping work on that last batch!
So what's next then? I got some Old School LOTR Uruk-Hai, some Talisman characters and some Runequest Broo.
Decisions, decisions ...
Which Uruk-hai do you have? The original three or the bigger, later ones with plastic shields? I'd love to see the former (think they're the more interesting set); and that famous John Blanche conversion aside, they're almost never seen painted.
But it'd be great to see more broo after that splendid blue-ish crabby fellow!
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Oh noes - straight over my head. ;D :( o_o lol
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Which Uruk-hai do you have? The original three or the bigger, later ones with plastic shields? .
Tell a lie, it's not the Uruk Hai set, it's the Orcs of the White Hand, originals with integral metal shields. I really like them models, so I'll see if I can squeeze them alongside the other stuff.
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Griselda and Wolfhead are fantastic/ beautiful :-*
I still read the stories off and on ,the author basing his writing style on Runyon if I remember correctly :)
yes - Oliver Dickinson - as you say, a pastiche of Damon Runyon. Had no idea anyone had figures to go with them.
Such a lovely, distinctive painting style.
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Great work.
You've inspired me to track down some of the old samurai I used to own
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Tell a lie, it's not the Uruk Hai set, it's the Orcs of the White Hand, originals with integral metal shields. I really like them models, so I'll see if I can squeeze them alongside the other stuff.
They're a cracking bunch - maybe the last and best of the Perry orcs. It's odd; they're clearly meant to be the Isengard Uruk-hai (taller than the crook-legged soldiers of Mordor; long bows; short(ish) broad-bladed swords), but the Jez Goodwin trio get the thick legs and large hands along with Mordor insignia (nothing wrong with Mordor Uruk-hai - but the Goodwin ones have the more mannish look). Even odder is the fact that the excellent Perry White Hand and Red Eye orcs were replaced with rather lacklustre Kev Adams equivalents as the range came to an end. Could never fathom that one!
Can't wait to see 'em!
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Yeah, I know it's continually banged on about, but I've always thought the Perry's work on the early Warhammer ranges have a quality far above that of the other sculptors. They didn't always get the anatomy bang on (and the casting doesn't need talking about) but the poses, the faces and the sheer life of them still give me a shot of the happy hormones whenever I look at their work.
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It would be lovely to see some more Broo Cubs,one of my favourite miniatures is an Antelope headed Broo,very regal,still have him in enamel and oils :)
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Yeah, I know it's continually banged on about, but I've always thought the Perry's work on the early Warhammer ranges have a quality far above that of the other sculptors. They didn't always get the anatomy bang on (and the casting doesn't need talking about) but the poses, the faces and the sheer life of them still give me a shot of the happy hormones whenever I look at their work.
I think it's because the heroic scale and lack of accuracy in anatomy allowed for some really expressive sculpts. Their current lines are all close to true scale and it leaves little room for expression, while at GW they could make everyone look like a Punch and Judy puppet. Realism doesn't tend to be as interesting as the weird things you can pull off when you throw it out the window.
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I think Aly Morrison and Bob Naismith on their good days could give the Perrys a run for their money. Mark Copplestone too.
If I was forced to come up with a list of my top ten sculpts from the glory days, say 1985–87, it would probably include sculpts from all of them plus Jes Goodwin. I think that’s a good thing.
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It would be lovely to see some more Broo Cubs,one of my favourite miniatures is an Antelope headed Broo,very regal,still have him in enamel and oils :)
Is he the one stood tall and upright, with a fur cloak over his left arm?
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That’s the one,I painted him white. I’ll have to pull him out :)
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A quick diversion to tackle the first of the Talisman models - the Troll. I tried to stay pretty close to the picture on his card, but a little snazzier. The base is just plain grass (to match the 'Outer Region' on the playing board), because these models are going to be very much playing pieces, not just display pieces.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/JePFY5SXyE2T/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/gyjHuKSSBj4J/1k0.jpg)
(https://www.talismanisland.com/mini_2troll_card.jpg)
Love this guy, and all the others! I like the way they are largely in muted browns, with colour used sparingly - it captures a look that I really like for fantasy figures.
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More great work here Cubs, well done.
I thought I'd missed out on lots of your painting with 6 pages to catch up on. Turns out it was only a few. It's a credit to your painting the sheer amount of comments you receive!
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It's a credit to your painting the sheer amount of comments you receive!
Urm ... yeah, that's what it is! Not that us oldsters hang around here chewing the fat, complaining about how you got real models back then, the girls were prettier and Wagon Wheels were bigger.
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Urm ... yeah, that's what it is! Not that us oldsters hang around here chewing the fat, complaining about how you got real models back then, the girls were prettier and Wagon Wheels were bigger.
so were curly wurlies!
And we had white dog poo you could kick along the pavement!
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They are rather awe-inspiring, aren't they - the level of detail, the colour choices, and the realism you think to bring to them with the take on tartan or redness around the eyes of the troll and the varying pigmentation of his skin. It makes them all so plausibly real - if the Talisman troll wandered into your garden, that's what he'd look like.
And yes, there is dose of old school nostalgia, but I'm (just) too young to have bought non-slotta base Citadel figures and I love this lot. Also larger wagon wheels etc etc
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Wagon wheels were bigger..
But your work is still fantastic, whether its proper real old models, or modern fakery so I can accept that about wagon wheels with a little grace.
oh the memories, curly wurlies, and mars bars that fit their rappers, rather than having extra "air" in them.
Damn and I remember the sun bleached dog poo!
oh those olden times..
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Real models as in you can throw them at home invaders due to their heft rather than plastic crap?
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Real models as in you can throw them at home invaders due to their heft rather than plastic crap?
Yes, but that's effort.
Think maybe just drop the mountain on their heads and dig their remains out after. Eventually.
Probably.
Definitely once I get to painting the content of that part ::)
more impact and less risk of damage to anything OOP :D
Of course I would have to make sure non of the resin or plastic fakery in that part of the mountain moved, don't want to damage anything.
Now if Cubs could kindly paint some more amazing stuff, whilst I dig myself out of this hole.
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I was in the middle of painting some LOTR Orcs and suddenly noticed a load of waste metal on all three of them that I'd missed in the clean-up and prep stages. It's a little bit of heart-break when you have to gouge lumps off your lovingly painted surfaces, then re-apply undercoat and repaint.
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I was in the middle of painting some LOTR Orcs and suddenly noticed a load of waste metal on all three of them that I'd missed in the clean-up and prep stages. It's a little bit of heart-break when you have to gouge lumps off your lovingly painted surfaces, then re-apply undercoat and repaint.
God I hate it when that happens. You think ‘how the f*ck did I miss that?’ Deeply annoying. Sympathies ::)
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A couple of Talisman characters (including Sarah Jessica Parker as the Prophetess) painted, quadruple varnished and ready to play with!
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Brilliant work Cubs, they really come to life with your brushwork.
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Excellent as always!
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Fantastic character laden sculpts that really come alive with your painting style.
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The minstrel is quite superb, lovely work. :)
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wonderful faces.
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Thanks guys. They were immediately put into action for a game of Talisman (the Minstrel was my wife, the Prophetess my daughter and I had the Troll), which is still ongoing and will doubtless stretch over many evenings to come. Thank Jehovah for phone cameras to quickly snap up where everything is, so it can be packed away and we can eat from the table for the week!
To encourage me to paint the models, we will be choosing a character to play for our next game, so I have a deadline and designated models to get finished in time.
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stunning, can't wait to see your next choice pieces.
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I felt lucky back in the day to play with naked lead figures, I hope your family know how lucky they still are!
I'm sure that game still holds up too, do you play with expansions?
To encourage me to paint the models, we will be choosing a character to play for our next game, so I have a deadline and designated models to get finished in time.
Hello if you need any help with encpurgaement and deadlines I have plenty of 1980s CitAdel......
Great stuff.
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I'm sure that game still holds up too, do you play with expansions?
Not yet, but we probably will eventually, if only so we can get to play with all the other models!
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Did you and your brother buy them in blisters? My, older, brother got one of those big Citadel plastic boxes with the sliding back that clicked, reusable and chunky!
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Did you and your brother buy them in blisters? My, older, brother got one of those big Citadel plastic boxes with the sliding back that clicked, reusable and chunky!
I wouldn't know to be honest, he bought them and has passed them on to me. My favourite Citadel boxes by far were the cardboard 'Regiment of Renown' ones with the picture of the Hobgoblin Despoilers and Lizardman Raiders having a battle. That wonderful dull rattle of the the lead models inside the polystyrene tray inside was magical.
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Ah yes I have a couple of surviving, but battered, boxes - Fellowship of the Ring, Bugman's and a bargain box... My brother's boxes are in much better shape and more numerous..... curse him
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After being badgered by various people to do some more LOTR stuff, I finally got round to painting my classic Citadel 'Orcs of the White Hand' by the Perry's. They are pretty much the template for the classic Orc in my mind and the yardstick 'gainst which all others are measured. Oh the beauty, the leaden beauty.
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Beautiful work, especially the skin tones and texture. Plus I do like to see string on a bow.
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Huh, Perrys did those? Interesting.
You sure do make 'em look great!
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Plus I do like to see string on a bow.
My old method of splitting a plastic fibre from a 'dustpan and brush' set down the middle. They've easy to cut, easy to glue and they naturally want to lie straight.
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Amazing paintwork!
Yup, those are the Citadel orcs at the back of Plato's cave. The archer's a contender for the best GW orc ever.
As a kid, I was mildly peeved that two of them have scimitars (wrong for Isengarders - although the archer's properly armed!) when everything else about them seemed meticulously researched (long yew bows, etc.). But they're just terrific, with the hairy breeches, the hide shields, the heavy boots and tattered cloaks: all those little details that give them depth and life.
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Thanks guys, I'm glad they're getting the love they deserve. As fun as they were to paint, it took me ages because there always seemed to be some other little detail on them - a strap, some fur, a little knife - that needed doing.
As a kid, I was mildly peeved that two of them have scimitars (wrong for Isengarders - although the archer's properly armed!) when everything else about them seemed meticulously researched (long yew bows, etc.).
I know! Short, straight swords wasn't it? Clearly Saruman had been training up his goons to be more professional heavy infantry than the standard Mordor fare.
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Beautiful stuff - absolute classics and they couldn't look better. As you say, pretty much the blueprint for what came next.
I specifically remember this pack after younger me went to some effort repositioning the sword arm of the fella on the right.
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I specifically remember this pack after younger me went to some effort repositioning the sword arm of the fella on the right.
I think we all did that! Snip it off the head and twist the wrist so the sword is a little more sideways!
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After being badgered by various people to do some more LOTR stuff, I finally got round to painting my classic Citadel 'Orcs of the White Hand' by the Perry's. They are pretty much the template for the classic Orc in my mind and the yardstick 'gainst which all others are measured. Oh the beauty, the leaden beauty.
Magnificent painting. Always did love those figures.
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I love them! The comic-like sculpt with the realistic painting makes a surpising (for me at least) well result.
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Lovely orcs :-*
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Very nice result there.
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Superb work, proper orcs!
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Gorgeous work, love it.
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Great work on those Orcs!
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Love the orcs, and realised I have two of them myself - now I’m inspired to strip them and update the old and bad paintjob they have at present!
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Love the orcs, and realised I have two of them myself - now I’m inspired to strip them and update the old and bad paintjob they have at present!
They're lovely models and take the paint so well. The only issue is that there's a lot of hidden detail that I found tricky to make out until the bits around them had been coloured in.
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They're lovely models and take the paint so well. The only issue is that there's a lot of hidden detail that I found tricky to make out until the bits around them had been coloured in.
And now I can benefit from you having done some of the hard work for me, as I can refer to your paint jobs if I have any troubles ;)
This is definitely one of the tricky bits of painting - there’s many a model that I have painted a few of and then eventually realised I’ve been mistakenly identifying a certain little item or fold of material all along.
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Having been laid low with the Covid for some time (10 days my arse!) I have finally managed to crank out some old school models for the 'Magnificent Sven' scenario. First up are the Slann, who if I'm honest, I struggled to get to grips with. I tried using pictures of Amazonian frogs and such, plus South- and Meso-American designs.
As an aside, there's a lovely thing called 'Moss Effect' that I've used for the first time on the bases, just splodged on my usual 'forest floor' blend of old tealeaves and mixed herbs. I really like how it automatically dries into different depths of shade. I got it from Great Escape Games (shameless plug) https://www.greatescapegames.co.uk/online-store/weathering/modelmates/mm-moss25
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Love it, as usual!
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Cracking work on those Slann - the variety of colours and textures is a real treat for the eyes.
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Those are stunning! The jaguar pelt shield is especially good, but everything turned out well on those.
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Bloody awesome 😎
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Amazing! So much to gawp at, but those obsidian weapons are a terrific touch!
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Thanks guys, that's very kind. If I'm being honest, I didn't love these guys - I was never a Slann-Fan and couldn't get comfy with the Amazonian vibe at all. I wanted more skin to do more froggy stuff!
Amazing! So much to gawp at, but those obsidian weapons are a terrific touch!
Now those I did enjoy - literally just Googled obsidian weapons and took it from there. I definitely went for a greenish tinge to add a bit more depth and I'm happy with how they turned out. It's always fun to try out new effects.
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Those are stunning! The jaguar pelt shield is especially good, but everything turned out well on those.
I quite agree. Brilliant work on all of them but that shield really takes the prize for me.
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great stuff.
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Only you could make me like Aztec Frogs. :D
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Beautiful work.
What’s the reason for the hex bases?
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What’s the reason for the hex bases?
They're for Richard who runs the 'Stuff of Legends' website about vintage models (and who has a vast collection of same). He likes the old school hex bases.
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Well, even if you didn't much like them, you did a great job on them.
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It's Orctober and for once I managed to get something done in good time!
Three fellas from the old Regiment of Renown 'Harboth's Black Mountain Boys' (in the days when Orcs could still use an 's' instead of a 'z'). Usually I hate the idea of converting the vintage models because it smacks of sacrilege, but I've painted so many of these guys over the years and they're not very rare, so I felt a bit of fun with the poses was perfectly acceptable. It was all simple enough, just a bit of chopping, drilling, pinning and patching up with the putty. The dude with the 2-handed weapon is the glaive-armed variant but the head had broken off, so I replaced it with a bit of plastic carved in the shape of the 'Dwarf Tickler' the regiment is actually meant to be armed with, according to the old artwork.
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Those are great! I love how gangly the old Citadel orcs were. Very nice painting and repairs on the glaive, I would never have guessed that the weapon had been broken.
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Tremendous! They look like they've just emerged from Harboth's sketchy saloon to sport with some unfortunate halfling wayfarer.
I must confess I love seeing old miniatures that have been converted and individualised. It's much more in the spirit of the glory days (all those Blanche conversions ...) than leaving them pristine.
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Fabulous :-*
I have a load of painted Asgard orcs I should post up for Orctober :)
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@Cubs those orcs look great! How did you manage to get the painted parts of the shield to look so convincingly like painted wood rather than white? Did you mix in some of the bare wood tone? I really like the result!
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@Cubs those orcs look great! How did you manage to get the painted parts of the shield to look so convincingly like painted wood rather than white? Did you mix in some of the bare wood tone? I really like the result!
Really simple, just inks (brown, then black) with a bit of grey-brown drybrushing at the edges.
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Looks like a right proper tickler!
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Looks like a right proper tickler!
Well exactly. I've bought a few more troops for the express purpose of converting them, after the encouragement on here.
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Perfect new additions Cubs!
I hear you with the mezzo-american struggle. I've got original Amazons here at the moment causing me similar concerns.
Thos orcs though - skin colours are amazing :-*
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A few random models done - Niblitz (tiny companion to Gobbledigo-ok from White Dwarf), and some reinforcements from The Magnificent Sven scenario - a Hobhound, a Berserker, Villager Elder and a Villager.
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Great stuff as usual mate but I really love that farmer with the feather in his hat.
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Great stuff as usual mate but I really love that farmer with the feather in his hat.
I think we can assume he's a reluctant warrior.
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He does have that “I’d rather be elsewhere” look about him, doesn’t he?
Beautiful painting on all of the figures, as always.
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Okay, after the teasing pictures of some of the support players, here are the main characters from Citadel's 'The Magnificent Sven' scenario, all 7 of them. I've stuck pretty close to the colour schemes as shown in the little 'cardboard cut-out' illustrations that came with it, with a few aesthetic or common sense changes here and there.
The players are as follows -
Sven Haslefresian, a Norse Dwarf engineer and major hero. The shield was simplified down to a red & gold colour scheme (not to make it easier, but because I think it looks better), with the general design and most of the elements remaining the same, except I changed it to a hammer that matched his own magic hammer (the original design had an axe ... why? when Sven carries a hammer and is an engineer!).
Juggo Jorikson, a Norse Dwarf berserker. Yes, he's meant to have turquoise hair, because he dyes it. Juggo also appears in McDeath for some reason, although he (weirdly) seems to swap from being a human to a dwarf halfway through the scenario!
Karra Lakota, an Amazon renegade. I absolutely adore the 80's punk-pop style of the old Amazon figures and yes, I did Google 'punk make-up' to help paint her face! The backstory of the (white, all-female) Amazons in Lustria hints at them being Norse settlers who somehow managed to produce all-female babies, but if I was painting them for myself I would probably make them darker skinned.
Aygar Mistletaine, a Norse Human wizard. I'm never sure about OSL (object source lighting effect) and I'm not overly confident with it, so when I have to do it (it's a glowing cross he has, I couldn't dodge it) I try to go minimal, so it's worked okay. The fancy robes, faded and shabby, took ages but look how I wanted.
Riolta Snow, a Sea Elf archer. She probably has the most changes, with the purple of her skirt toned down and all her gold decoration changed to silver, which seemed more Sea-Elfy. I also subtly introduced a wave and scale design to her shoulders.
Raidocks Timmowit, a Halfling adventurer. He's wearing gear borrowed from Sven, having rocked up in Lustria with nothing, which explains why nothing fits properly.
Karl Ustracutter, a Norse Human hero. Yes, the shield. There's no way round it, this did take some time. I really wanted the 'Evil Sun' design (a great bit of graphic design that was used almost universally back in the day, with no explanation) to be more authentic, with a smaller face sitting lower down within the red circle. But it was just too small! I couldn't do it! This was as small as I could make it, without losing all the detail, so there we go. The B&W checks running outside were a matter of putting little white blobs down in the right places, then neatening up at the end with thin black paint to get crisp lines and edges. Thin brush, thin paint, patience, that's the only way I can do it.
Enjoy!
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Sven
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Juggo
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Karra
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Aygar
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Riolta
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Raidocks
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Karl
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I am used to seeing great paint jobs in this thread, but these are just amazing! There are so many details painted in that make these figures pop.
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Damn! Really nice work !! :o
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Great work!
I have a lot of nostalgia for this scenario, as I think it was in the first Citadel Compendium I ever owned, with line drawings of figures.
Never played it, and only recently discovered I actually have a few of the figures in my stash.
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Very good things here. Karl's shield is the business. And the magic user is just spectacular. And the turquoise hair. And so many other things too, as has been said. A real treat to see them all together.
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I think those guys and gals are truly breathtaking. I thought your painting could not get any better till you dropped that bunch on us. Your miniatures bring me a lot of joy! I hope we get a new update soon!
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Pure delight in seeing such classic models being brought to life with simply breathtaking painting…wow wow wow
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Fab! I believe I have that dwarf sitting on my painting desk :)
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Wonderful work. Outstanding
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Fantastic work cubs. They look brilliant
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Beautiful
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fantastic- Ilike the slightly desaturated palate . it takes a lot of skill to make those colours work but amazed at how well you pulled that off
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OMG!
Thanks for sharing
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Love seeing those Sven figures again, and beautifully painted. Truth is Paul, no dingily dell painter (Citadel) ever did these this well back in the day. No way.
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Thanks guys, I'm glad they have pleased. In truth they're such lovely models with a detailed background, it makes the painter's job a lot easier.
Love seeing those Sven figures again, and beautifully painted. Truth is Paul, no dingily dell painter (Citadel) ever did these this well back in the day. No way.
Oh you, don't stop. I do think we often improve by seeing what others are doing and trying to emulate that, or even better it. We have access to so many great online tutorials and techniques these days, due to the generosity of so many talented painters, we can just keeping pushing ourselves. If we look back to the days of the GW 'Eavy Metal in-house painters 20, 30yrs ago we would look at them in awe and think there's no way we could get close to that standard. But the standards have moved on and it's more accessible to all of us now.
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Been a while - a couple of C series Wizards, variants of the Aygar Mistletaine model previously shown.
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And also the old Citadel ME32 'Hobbits of the Shire' pack.
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Old Bilbo (with books)
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Frodo
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Sam
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Merry
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Pippin
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Wow those hobbits are glorious.
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very nice!!!!
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beautiful.
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Love those hobbits
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Superb!
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Outstanding work as usual Cubs. You really brought those Hobbits to life.
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Stunning😳
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Very good work. :)
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Those are great!
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Absolutely terrific! Only the Pippin figure had left any imprint on my memory previously; it's great to see that the others have just as much latent character - brought to the surface and then some here! Bilbo and Sam in particular are just brimming with it.
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Thanks dyoods, very kind.
Bilbo and Sam in particular are just brimming with it.
I always love the Samwise models - he's 'proper hobbit'.
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Superb work, brimming, if not overflowing, with character.
Your painting brings it out perfectly
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Perfect :)
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A lovely old 'C Series Fighter', possibly even an older original FF series, I don't know. Anyhoo, he came in a batch with other stuff and needed a replacement sword but the TLC was worth it because he's a handsome chap.
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And now the last 3 Orcs of a regiment I've been trying to collect and paint for 35+ years, Harboth's 'Black Mountain Boys'.
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Too good 8)
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They're amazing! :-*
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Beautiful work,you are possibly the most unique miniature style ,in some ways you remind me of Roman Lappat,very painterly.
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That’s a beautiful collection of classic orcs - superb painting!
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Those are great. Weirdly I'm painting up Harboth's boys right now, as well, though now I've seen yours I might bin mine lol
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Fantastic orcs ❤️
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Oh wow, you are right about that fighter, very nice model.
But those orcs take the biscuit, cake and cake stand. love the mottles on their skin, and their rangy looks - they seem more menacing than their bulkier more modern descendants.
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Stunning Ork's :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
very realistic for fantasy
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Great work! 👍
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Beautiful work,you are possibly the most unique miniature style ,in some ways you remind me of Roman Lappat,very painterly.
+1 :-*
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Terrific stuff - really characterful!
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Thanks dyoods, very kind. I must say I'm gonna miss not having at least one of these little fellas lurking on the desk while I'm painting other jobs for people. They've always been there as some to turn to, to keep me fresh and interested as a change from whatever someone else has asked me to do. Now some of their mates get to take a turn.
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Amazing! That skin-mottling or scaly effect is terrific, and the variety is tremendous - I love the variations-on-a-theme shields. And what a glare on Harboth himself!
(Looking at the champion's helmet, I'm struck by the notion that Yaskin Forit is a sort of Perry tribute to Kev Adams' conversions of Perry orcs.)
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A quick one-off for our own LAF'er 'thebinman' as a bit of fun and a diversion. He's a great old C Series 'Dwarf Veteran' who's had his slotta snipped off so he can be mounted on a 2p coin.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/NbZCC4DcTfiH/1k0.jpg)
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One of my all time favourite dwarves! I have him in my collection, amazing painting on this !
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He’s perfect :-*
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Superb.
Now I want one of those for my oldschool collection!
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These guys are the first batch from 'The Legend of Kremlo' miniature collection, Kremlo himself and his Viking allies to follow.
So, the long delay between posts is due to - a) me getting a new grown-up job during the week that keeps me tired and busy, b) more bouts of illness than I thought possible for anyone outside of medical test trials. Is it just me, or is the world full of damn viruses these days? The new flu is an absolute killer (still got it) - I genuinely can't remember feeling so ill in my life (worse than my Covid stints).
Anyhoo, that's enough self-pity for now, time to glean some pity from others for having to paint so many Slann. I don't like painting Slann, they've got so many little fiddly details hidden in crevices on the models and it's not obvious what they're meant to be (at least not to me, who has no knowledge of South or Meso-American stuff). I've basically guessed what a bunch of things are meant to be and gone with that - weapons being a mix of wood, dull bronze, bright bronze, gold, bone and obsidian. I prefer the dark and dingy instead of the wild carnival of colours that this Space Frog Mardi-Gras requires, but now they're done and are at least eye-catching. I enjoyed doing the poor lobotomised slaves, with the scarring on their temples and blood-shot empty eyes.
Slann Leaders
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Slann Warriors
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Slann Blowpipes
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Slann Lobotomised Human Slaves
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Beautifully done, those slaves are great. Always thought they were a little dumpy looking, you really made them shine.
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Those are spectacular - really well done all round. The contrast between the psychedelic Slann and their dead-eyed slaves is marvellous.
Yes, there do seem to be some nasty microbes around; we've had some bouncing around the household for the past week and no one's properly over it yet.
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The new flu is an absolute killer (still got it) - I genuinely can't remember feeling so ill in my life (worse than my Covid stints).
the poor lobotomised slaves, with the scarring on their temples and blood-shot empty eyes.
Any connection between these two statements? ;)
Lovely paint work by the way.
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Any connection between these two statements? ;)
On Thursday night/Friday morning I was seriously considering making a lethal cocktail from kitchen ingredients to put myself out of my misery. But yes, having zero hrs sleep in a 36hr hour period gave me a very similar appearance. The loincloth was pure coincidence.
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On Thursday night/Friday morning I was seriously considering making a lethal cocktail from kitchen ingredients to put myself out of my misery. But yes, having zero hrs sleep in a 36hr hour period gave me a very similar appearance. The loincloth was pure coincidence.
Yeah my work does that to me two, and then wonders why I am a bit "techy" when they ask me to do "one more thing".
the Loin cloth sounds a good idea though, it might make them let me work from home even more..
But needs must the money.
Hope you get to feeling betters soon.
As always, my god can you paint. even without sleep.
no idea what the bits are on the Slann either but you made them look great whatever they are.
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Love 'em Paul. Fantastic work.
These figures were right at the start of my enthusiasm for the hobby, so they reek nostalgia for me. I never bought any Slann, but I still have the Norse unpainted, really looking forward to seeing your work on them. I never had Kremlo either.
Even though I never bought the Slann, I loved Mr Blanches illustrations of them, and loved his Norse drawings even more.
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Beautiful painting on those classic figures. I miss the old version of Slaan, figures - the giant levitating mega-sorcerers don’t have the same appeal. I still have a few slaan infantry to paint.
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I loved Mr Blanches illustrations of them, and loved his Norse drawings even more.
Yeah, them pen and ink sketches in the old Warhammer publications ... the hours I spent copying them with my Rotring pens.
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Oh my goodness! So much Oldhammer fun! I absolutely love your Kremlo models. I never had that scenario, but it was one of those where I was drawn between total admiration and feeling estranged…something I would love to feel more often with modern models.
Anyway, great painting (as usual) on the Slamm. Iirc it was not easy to make these alien aztec frogs look good.
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The Slann are beautiful. Good luck on the new 'grown-ip' job. I must admit to not missing mine.
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Yeah, them pen and ink sketches in the old Warhammer publications ... the hours I spent copying them with my Rotring pens.
I never did that, but I found them incredibly inspiring. Did you ever see Mr Blanche's similar cover to Heroes? What inspired me was that the drawings brought an element of fantasy art to boring Dark Age figures. Instead of just drawing Vikings in trousers and tunics with some puttees arounds the ankles, he added layers and furs in a way the young Nick hadn't seen before. Did you notice the masked Viking on the right has a pelt of a badger over his knee, fantastic. Don't miss that when you come to paint him, I thought whichever Mr Perry made the figures was really faithful to Mr Blanches work, even the badger head is there.
Great stuff Mr Cubbin!!
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Superb work 8)
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Superb paintwork.
Not a range of figures i've considered, but really like these.
Remember reading the scenario and wishing I had the money to buy the figures back then, now it would need a remortgage!
Inspirational
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Fantastic work on these!
It's interesting - and inspirational - to see how you've addressed the Great Slann Conundrum: paint them with a unifying skin colour or just go wild and bold with all manner of froggery, as you've done here. They look terrific in all their variety.
Hope you make a swift recovery from the lurgy!
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Lovely stuff Cubs. I always wanted some slaves! Not actual slaves, the figures obviously.
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Thanks dyoods, very kind. As I said, they're not to my taste, but the oldschool Slann are still pure nostalgia.
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You do the more than justice, terrific paint job. Great colour palette too.
And the slaved are just creepy - I only now noticed the chain motif on the shields, grand job there. 8) 8) 8)
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I never did that, but I found them incredibly inspiring. Did you ever see Mr Blanche's similar cover to Heroes? What inspired me was that the drawings brought an element of fantasy art to boring Dark Age figures. Instead of just drawing Vikings in trousers and tunics with some puttees arounds the ankles, he added layers and furs in a way the young Nick hadn't seen before. Did you notice the masked Viking on the right has a pelt of a badger over his knee, fantastic. Don't miss that when you come to paint him, I thought whichever Mr Perry made the figures was really faithful to Mr Blanches work, even the badger head is there.
Great stuff Mr Cubbin!!
It’s moments like these which reveal the awesomeness of early citadel;)
All these books were tremendously hard to get in Germany when I got hooked. But I can even from a far retrospective enjoy the little innovations John Blanche brought into fantasy illustration.
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Lovely work as ever, Cubs.
Best wishes for a quick and lasting recovery.
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Dipping into this thread for the first time. I haven't made it through the whole thing yet but this is a lovely collection with some great brushwork on these old sculpts.
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Dipping into this thread for the first time. I haven't made it through the whole thing yet but this is a lovely collection with some great brushwork on these old sculpts.
Welcome in, you get bonus points for the Reepicheep pic (I had a pet rat called Reepicheep).
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Right, thought I'd sneak a couple of fellas in under the wire before Orctober is done.
First up is a C-series Orc champion, a variant on the Harboth model.
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Second is a quick Black Orc from Ugezod's Regiment of Renown - a range of models I find hard to love with their low stoop, dish-rag hats and ultra-deep eye sockets (I had to paint eyes in there, but it wasn't easy and you can't see them anyway). Having said that, I have a lot of a great memories of these guys, so I can't help but love them, despite all that.
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I have no idea why they're so small.
Edit: My hosting site is mucking about, resizing my photos down to thumbnails when I try to share. I've found a ball-ache way around it, but at least it is a way around it.
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The Black Orcs were Nick Lund rather than the Perrys, so I wasn't a big fan either. Except for his Wolf Riders. I love them still, I think he got them just right.
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I have a soft spot for Lund’s orcs, so the black orc’s style appeals to me (I also no longer paint eyes on most 28mm figures, so trying to get into the eye sockets wouldn’t be a worry.)
Both figures are just beautifully painted! I thoroughly enjoy each of the figures you share in this thread.
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Here we go then, the other half of the Legend of Kremlo collection, Kremlo himself with his Norse warriors. I thought they were really poorly cast when I first got them, but it turned out to be very thick paint which, for some reason or another, had then been painted over with silver paint so it looked like bare metal! A quick soak in Dettol revealed the mystery.
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Stunning! :-*
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Works of art. Epic stuff.
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Lovely stuff! Very nuanced use of the muted colours.
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Exceptional.
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Cracking work!
I’ve got a surprising number of those figures - I hadn’t realised they were all from that range. Was this scenario in WHFB v2?
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Brillant! I just love that set.
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Beautifully rendered. Those miniatures have really come to life under your skilful brush work. Superb :-*
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Thanks guys, they were a delight to paint.
I’ve got a surprising number of those figures - I hadn’t realised they were all from that range. Was this scenario in WHFB v2?
Yeah, I think so. For some reason the writers were obsessed with Lustria in the early days.
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Fantastic stuff - excellently well done.
The scenario's in the First Citadel Compendium of 1983 - still have my tatty copy. John Blanche illustrations very closely followed by these sculpts. A real treat to see them here.
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Brilliant Paul. Love 'em. Better than they'd have been painted by Citadel back in the day for sure.
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The scenario's in the First Citadel Compendium of 1983 - still have my tatty copy. John Blanche illustrations very closely followed by these sculpts. A real treat to see them here.
Thanks - that was the other possibility. I loved that magazine so many great ideas - along with line drawings of the ranges!
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Exceptional work Cubs!
I have to admit, I don't know if it's your paint job, or the sculptors of the time, or what... But they have quite nice proportions and animation, and surprisingly delicate details. More so to my eye than other models typical of that era anyway.
Thank you for sharing your work on them. :)
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Amazing! I reckon Kremlo's the best yet of your Slann - and that's saying something! The Norse are great too - I've always loved that spearman with the mail veil, and he and the rest look brilliant here.
Was this scenario in WHFB v2?
It's so old that it's a WHFB 1e scenario - Slann with Toughness C (=4 in 2e, confusingly)! You might have been thinking of The Magnificent Sven - also Slann-centric - which was in the WHFB box, complete with cardboard standees.
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You might have been thinking of The Magnificent Sven - also Slann-centric - which was in the WHFB box, complete with cardboard standees.
That could well be it. I’ll have to do a bit of googling to remind my self (or go rummaging in the cold…)
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Lovely crew, and very inspiring thread! :-*
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Amazing! I reckon Kremlo's the best yet of your Slann - and that's saying something! The Norse are great too - I've always loved that spearman with the mail veil, and he and the rest look brilliant here.
It's so old that it's a WHFB 1e scenario - Slann with Toughness C (=4 in 2e, confusingly)! You might have been thinking of The Magnificent Sven - also Slann-centric - which was in the WHFB box, complete with cardboard standees.
You are right, Kremlo in Journal 1 (WFB1) and Mag. Sven in WFB2. Did anyone ever use the standees. I never did, and never knew anyone who did either. Citadel moved to the illustrated bases instead straight after.
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That could well be it. I’ll have to do a bit of googling to remind my self (or go rummaging in the cold…)
They can be found on this very thread right here - https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=109712.90
Amazing! I reckon Kremlo's the best yet of your Slann - and that's saying something!
You know, I do think I like him best. Having him as the only Slann in this group made me stop and think about giving him a really unique look. I Googled pics of Amazonian toads for inspiration and decided at the last minute to give him little white scales on his underside, which ended up looking a bit like tough-guy stubble!
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You know, I do think I like him best. Having him as the only Slann in this group made me stop and think about giving him a really unique look. I Googled pics of Amazonian toads for inspiration and decided at the last minute to give him little white scales on his underside, which ended up looking a bit like tough-guy stubble!
Yeah, that's a brilliant touch! It makes him look as if he's really 'gone native' among the Norse (or the other way round ...).
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Those are very cool. Glad to catch up on this thread.
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A couple of the old C-series Giants here, the second one was unreleased (which is a crying shame). I do enjoy the larger canvas on which to muck about.
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The rust effect on the axe was from a lovely 'Rust Effect' wash I bought from Great Escape Games - it naturally dries in a realistic patchy way.
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Wow, those are beautifully painted, and really characterful sculpts!
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They're fantastic sculpts, beautifully painted.
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Wonderful!
That unreleased one looks like he might feature somewhere in the family tree of those plastic Fighting Fantasy figures that Citadel released in the 80s.
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Nice work.
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Superb work as usual. Those giants just ooze with character
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I’ve run out of superlatives. Shame that you stopped painting for others.
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Thanks dudes, most kind. They're such fun to paint, but they do takes absolutely ages.
I’ve run out of superlatives. Shame that you stopped painting for others.
Well, I still have a couple of long-term customers - these are for Richard Hales from the 'Stuff of Legends' website - but I don't have time to take on any new customers, what with real life impinging on more important stuff.
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Life’s like that, isn’t it?
Can’t think of a better recipient that Richard Hales and SoL.
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Those last couple are awesome, as we have come to expect of you, but the Legend of Kremlo collection is absolutely beautiful.
Fantastic body of work.
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Brilliant work. Excellent skin tones. Lots of personality.
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Always, always amazing to see what you do with a miniature.
although the second one does remind me a lot of my brother. best not tell him though. I think its probably just the nose.
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Thanks guys - I'm not sure how clearly it shows on the photo, but something I was really worried about with the 2nd giant was the big glob of drool coming out of his mouth. How the hell was I going to paint that?! The answer is, I Google 'drooling' (no, honestly) and just looked really hard at what was going on with the colours and light. It was actually very simple, but I'd never done that effect before and I'm so relieved it came out right. It's a light-ish grey blob, with the middle section being that grey mixed with flesh tone (leaving a grey outline though) and little blobs of off-white light reflected on the top (where it's on his lip) and on the bottom, where the light is catching the big drip. So easy, so effective.
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More additions, some C-series Thieves (thugs, thieves, rogues, burglars, cut-throats and all-round scoundrels). The fella with the grappling hook had a scar down his face and I wasn't sure if it was a casting fault or a feature, so I painted it up as a feature. Note also the crouching fella has pointy ears, hence he's painted up as a half-elf or dark elf or some-such. The dude with the lamp was a tentative attempt at OSL (object source lighting) which is still something I'm on a steep learning curve with at the moment.
Included is a C-series Fighter I picked up in a job lot, who I have painted up as a Maltese knight of St John, just cos.
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Lovely stuff, all of it. The face on the piratical-looking guy with the ear-ring and cutlass/scimitar is just amazing - really spot on.
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Astonishing! The faces are just brilliant, but I'm almost as impressed by the wonderfully grubby cloaks!
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Just beautiful :-*
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Maltese knight of St John, just cos.
Cos... lol lol lol
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Love the thugs. The second giant is awesome. Is that snot out of his nose or a broken nose ring, I'm thinking snot.
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Lovely stuff, all of it. The face on the piratical-looking guy with the ear-ring and cutlass/scimitar is just amazing - really spot on.
Great work. I really like this one too - great character in the figure and the painting really brings him to life
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outstanding :-*
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Lovely work.
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I bet the original sculptor would be blown away if they knew back then how far miniature painting would advance, and saw these beauties.
Who is the sculptor in this case? Are they known? They're a lovely bunch in any case.
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I love the gritty naturalism of these figures.
Your palette and painting style goes so well with the sculpts.
These miniatures are so evocative of WFRP (1e!). Alcoholic rat catchers and gong farmers v cultists FTW!
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Who is the sculptor in this case? Are they known? They're a lovely bunch in any case.
The Perrys.
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Thanks for the positive vibes guys, I do enjoy the old stuff, frustrating as it can be sometimes to clean up the castings.
Who is the sculptor in this case? Are they known? They're a lovely bunch in any case.
Yeah, gotta be Perry's - I've painted so many of their early creations their style is unmistakeable now!
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Cracking stuff, the glow from the lamp is fantastic
Looks like I might be hunting ebay...
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interesting, wouldn't have connected those with the perrys; hadn't realised they'd done such caricatured stuff early on.
not the facial features as such - more the body (dis)proportions etc.
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I think it's fair to say that, very talented as they were, Alan and Michael were very much still learning their trade, and slightly eyebrow-raising anatomy in a few of their early models does indicate this. I'm thinking of the Orc with a glaive (shown earlier on in this thread) as a prime example, where he has a very bizarre set of arm muscles that don't even match the other side! Still, when we look at their fellow sculptors at the time, it was obvious they were very much in the top tier and improving year on year.
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These are excellent! Going to set aside the afternoon to have a really good look through your work. What a treasure trove! :D
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don't get me wrong - I love 'em !
funnily enough, the guy with hat and cloak makes me thing of Trevor Dixon's style (which I similarly love at its best). The posture anyway.
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I quite like those characterful faces, which are quite good even by current standards. Really makes those figures stand out.
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More lovely old C-series thieves, rogues, cutpurses, burglars and general wrong 'uns.
One of them turned out to be what I can only assume is a Half-Orc, who is wearing a cat skin on top of his hat, for reasons unknown. Sadly this inspired me to write an ode to poor Mr Frisky -
There was an unfortunate cat,
Who was skinned and then stuck on a hat,
When the killer was done,
He said, "Well that's one,
"But I'm sure there are more ways than that."
Ay thang yo.
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Lovely as always :-*
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Those are just brilliant! The poem is a nice touch (unless you are the cat, of course).
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Genuinely jaw-dropping.
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Those are so characterful - and beautifully painted of course. 8)
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sigh every time I dare look its jaw dropping PJs.
I knew a gent in old bank branch many years ago who got so fed up with people asking about his hat and what the cat was originally called, he stuck glass eyes on it, and a tag saying "tibbles - if found please return to..".
that aside as always you bring the character out on these miniature like no-one else. superb
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I've run out of superlatives. Such a joy to see these painted like this.
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These are excellent as always. The fellow with two swords has more than an air of Vincent Price about him that gives him a wonderful blend of menacing and dashing.
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Awesome work on those faces especially
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Extraordinarily good - this is how I always imagined they'd look in real life!
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Amazing work as all ways :o .A million miles away from how my school mates and I
painted murdered this era of Citadel miniatures back in the day with Humbrol enamels and then early GW paints.
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Great job Cubs, and I know your painting is on another level but still it is amazing just how good the old Citadel Scults could be (I know there were some duffers). Some of the faces a still great 40+ years later!
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A couple of the old C-series Giants here, the second one was unreleased (which is a crying shame). I do enjoy the larger canvas on which to muck about.
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It is not othen I see a Citadel mini for the first time, but this is one of those times. Thanks a lot, is it yours?
I'm gussing you added the snot?
Great model that should have seen the light of day, perhaps instead of all of those Big Hat Dwarves.... it would have made my world a better place.
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I've been following this thread for a while and continuously find myself impressed and inspired by the amazing work you've done on these characterful old minis, so I just wanted to say thank you for sharing :D
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Aw, thanks you guys. The thieves actually really frustrated me because they have these little knives (all good), but the blades are chunky lumps of metal and a lot of them have wide hilts like swords. I'd have much preferred to see them with short swords, decent sized daggers or poky little knives without hilts.
It is not othen I see a Citadel mini for the first time, but this is one of those times. Thanks a lot, is it yours?
I'm gussing you added the snot?
No, it's another one for Richard 'Orclord' Hale (of 'Stuff of Legends' fame) and the snot (and drool) were sculpted on. He is a great giant with the distinct flavour of the big plastic models they brought out in the 80's (I forget the name of the range). I had a few and to my shame lost them somewhere - I know my brother has one he still uses as a giant.
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No, it's another one for Richard 'Orclord' Hale (of 'Stuff of Legends' fame) and the snot (and drool) were sculpted on. He is a great giant with the distinct flavour of the big plastic models they brought out in the 80's (I forget the name of the range). I had a few and to my shame lost them somewhere - I know my brother has one he still uses as a giant.
Official Fighting Fantasy range I think (prior to Drastic Plastic in a more sensible scale)
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Official Fighting Fantasy range I think (prior to Drastic Plastic in a more sensible scale)
That's the badgers!
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Ah yes, I had this one:
(http://www.sodemons.com/rhogres2/0385ffogres/ffogrea/_07A0927x-02.jpg)
Orange skin, that falked off after a few years...
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Scraping in under the wire as usual, I present the Orctober offerings. Since I was busy with other things, I didn't get round to them before halfway through the month, so it's only fitting that they be Half-Orcs. For reasons unknown, the old Citadel Half-Orcs all have a similar style of shield, with a device in relief on the surface, often skeletal or runic apparently, so I've decided that on my shelf, the shields will all be painted a similar shade.
The Regiment of Renown fellas are troopers from Mudat's Half-Orc Mercenaries, possibly the most unreliable troops in the Old World, with a reputation for swapping sides several times during battles to maximise loot. The horrors of the old mold lines that travel straight down the face and shield, as well as the random lumps of miscast metal on these fellas is well documented, as is the wild inaccuracy of the fluff which states the troopers carry maces and hammers, whereas the models have enormous curved swords akin to a Dacian falx. I have enough of these guys so heresy though it may be, I might just end up converting some to carry something like the correct weaponry.
The single C-series chap (or chappess, hard to tell really) has had a replaced blade for his ... I dunno what you'd call it, glaive? falx again? ... anyway, the old one had snapped off (I've yet to see an original figure with it intact) so I replaced it with some metal from crappy tweezers, ground down to the right size and shape. It'll do pig, it'll do.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/adf310b9-844b-4b00-b00d-d6f5107c4746.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/2b995166-3dcb-47de-b9f3-94b241136d9d.jpg)
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The process of cleaning up the figures sounds like a chore, but the end result is amazing! I always enjoy seeing your figures, the colour palette and painting techniques you use are very effective and bring out the character in each model.
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Damn those are nice! I have bunch of RoR guys in my pile that I really must get around to painting.
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Damn those are nice! I have bunch of RoR guys in my pile that I really must get around to painting.
Which ones?
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Those half-orcs are wonderful - brilliant painting!
I like how the RoR half-orcs were more hunched and orc-like than the earlier and later C-series ones - as if Mudat's troops were particularly nasty specimens!
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Those half-orcs are wonderful - brilliant painting!
I like how the RoR half-orcs were more hunched and orc-like than the earlier and later C-series ones - as if Mudat's troops were particularly nasty specimens!
Ah thanks, I knew you'd enjoy them! I've now been bitten by a weird compulsion to sculpt a Hobgoblin leader from the old 1st Edition rules - I forget his name, but he's got Chaos mutations with a mace tail and stuff. Probably never do it mind.
I just read the bumf and apparently it all kicked off because the Half-Orcs were all evicted from the town of Nuln in a purge of the Goblinoid races. Mudat and many others were so indignant they chose to form a mercenary regiment and returned ... it did not go well for Nuln.
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Ah thanks, I knew you'd enjoy them! I've now been bitten by a weird compulsion to sculpt a Hobgoblin leader from the old 1st Edition rules - I forget his name, but he's got Chaos mutations with a mace tail and stuff. Probably never do it mind.
Gyurokinti, if I remember correctly. Oh, but you must!
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I don't: it's Gyokurinti the Strangler!
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Which ones?
Mudat's (or depending were you look Mudak's) half orcs I have about 18 including the standard bearer and tue leader no musician or champion but I have a couple of C series slotta base half orcs I might just substitute for the missing command.
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Mudat's (or depending were you look Mudak's) half orcs I have about 18 including the standard bearer and tue leader no musician or champion but I have a couple of C series slotta base half orcs I might just substitute for the missing command.
They're really nice models and pretty easy to paint, it's just the chopping and prep getting rid of the dodgy casting that's a ball ache at the beginning. The Champion is quite difficult to get hold of but the musician you'll probably grab relatively easily on eBay I reckon.
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Oh man, they're bloomin' marvelous! I'm also a big fan of the old half-orcs and this bunch look particularly disreputable. I love the mixture of flesh tones (your painting of skin is always a treat). How you've managed to get three unique characters from the same monopose figure is pretty impressive.
Scraping in under the wire as usual, I present the Orctober offerings.
I hear that. I'm panic basing this evening!
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They're really nice models and pretty easy to paint, it's just the chopping and prep getting rid of the dodgy casting that's a ball ache at the beginning. The Champion is quite difficult to get hold of but the musician you'll probably grab relatively easily on eBay I reckon.
I've already painted up the original solid base Groms Goblin Guard and I have Throg's Hobgoblin Despoilers. Along with Mudat's half orcs I hope to build Grom's army that fought the Dwarven wars ( as described in 2nd edition WFB) all three of those RoR along with Golfags Ogres fought under Grom.
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I've already painted up the original solid base Groms Goblin Guard and I have Throg's Hobgoblin Despoilers. Along with Mudat's half orcs I hope to build Grom's army that fought the Dwarven wars ( as described in 2nd edition WFB) all three of those RoR along with Golfags Ogres fought under Grom.
Most excellent. Didn't Grom end up killing Mudat in the end because he was fed up with him changing sides?
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Most excellent. Didn't Grom end up killing Mudat in the end because he was fed up with him changing sides?
I believe so only so long you can get away with being a sneaky git. Meanwhile Throg went on to lead his Hobgoblins in to the Darklands where he created his own Empire. The old Regiments of Renown were so cool.
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Awesome once again. I admire your staying power cleaning them up.
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Cubs those half orcs are awesome. Earlier this year I pulled together a half orc mercenary contingent from the 3rd edition warhammer armies book using all citadel figures.
It Wasn't easy.
Once I had them painted (to a degree) I read the actual rules and realised how utterly crap they are on the table.
I really wish I'd collected hobgoblins now instead
Theres a lesson there.
Great painting cubs, truly inspirational.
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Once I had them painted (to a degree) I read the actual rules and realised how utterly crap they are on the table.
I really wish I'd collected hobgoblins now instead
It's the reason I never collected them back in the day. Give me Orcs, Savage Orcs or Hobgoblins, with their fancy rules. Half Orcs did have assassins though and weren't subject to Animosity (I think) so that gave them some lustre, just not enough. I like the Oldhammer idea that the various races weren't actually at constant war with each other, but did have some interaction through trade or travel, if a fraught one at times. Half Orcs would often live in Old World human cities and could be found as mercenaries for various paymasters.
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Right then. I've never sculpted a model from scratch before (though a fair few heavy conversions have taken place), so I'm leaping in at the deep end with no idea if I'm going right or wrong or how it will turn out. Any errors in proportion can be safely waved away as 'Chaos mutations'.
It begins.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/cd2ac313-51e3-423a-849b-59a05234a150.jpg)
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I get the feeling that even if you end up sculpting an absolute turd, it'll still look wonderful once you've slapped some paint on it you talented barsteward.
Watching with interest.
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Okay, starting to flesh out a basic musculature. I began with a blend of greenstuff and ordinary Milliput on the trunk, but found it too rough for my liking, so switched to greenstuff and Milliput Fine for the limbs. It's a damn sight harder than it looks this sculpting lark! I know what I want it to do, but somewhere between my brain, the sculpting tool and the putty it just won't do what I want. I'm hoping the details, a bit of liquid greenstuff and a paintjob will hide how right it is. The pose I like though, exactly what I was going for and I used an articulated artist's manikin to help me.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/b0c3a153-a970-40de-8002-376ebfb23776.jpg)
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Coming on nicely!
Are you going to attempt the original's elaborate multi-horned helmet? That would be quite daunting, I'd have thought!
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Intriguing! It certainly looks promising to me. You’re right that chaos figures are a good entry point to sculpting - to paraphrase Bob Ross’s painting videos, “there are no mistakes in sculpting, just happy little accidents! If your sculpture has three ears, that’s just great!”
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Well, you certainly have the general proportions and pose looking good to start!
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Coming on nicely!
Are you going to attempt the original's elaborate multi-horned helmet? That would be quite daunting, I'd have thought!
Oh bloody hell, I didn't know there was already a model! I was just winging it. Okay, new information, this will have nothing at all to do with the original sculpt (which I've just seen on Stuff of Legends and don't like anyway, link below) and will be something new.
http://www.sodemons.com/rhhobgoblins/c36hobgoblins/c3601-gyokurinti/index.htm
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I'm sure it'll be all the better for coming straight from the write-up!
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I had that figure, from back in the day.
It had a massive mould rip, filling in the space between it's arm and body. I just stuck a shield over it, looked fine.
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Okay, it's been a while, but I finally found time to add to poor old Gyokurinti the Strangler. I went with pure Greenstuff this time, to keep it simple and I was happy with how it was to work with. If I needed crisper detail or a smooth surface perhaps I'd go different, but for now, it seems right. I will be aiming to crisp up some of the softer lines and cruder lumps with a smart paintjob anyway, which is a bit of a cheat but I forgive myself since it's my first try.
Some panel armour on (with straps and buckles at the rear - so he can't remove it during frenzy!) and the hands, ready to be drilled out to take weapons. I had to stop myself at this point, because I kept poking the still-soft bits of armour with my fingers and squishing them. Slowly slowly.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/e7af4928-6d7d-4880-a984-69e8ce410062.jpg)
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I think it's growing wonderfully, great job! Don't be bothered about time, sculpting minis is a very slow process. An old friend of mine, quite a good sculptor, used to manage several projects all at once, in order to maximize curing time of the putty.
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Sculpting job is edging forward, but with long waits for the putty to dry inbetween minor tweaks, it doesn't look very different from the last set of pics. However, I have been slapping some colour on some old mins to keep me busy with the brush, too.
Here's an old C35 Knight of Chaos, resplendent in his black & white colour scheme for my Malal army.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/65f954b9-727a-48dd-8c11-7cc5a0f57c06.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/f063bf8c-64d2-4cca-ac73-f78bab85ccc1.jpg)
Next guy is Ogroth Darksoul, from the SS1-2 Warriors of Chaos boxed set. Here he is as he should be, on the Stuff of Legends site - http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/ss1bwarriorschaos/index.htm
However, by the time he came to me he had been the victim of what I can only assume was a soldering iron (having tried to repair my mins with one as a foolish youth, I know the look). His head and right arm were melted and blobby stumps and the shield ... well, the shield I just didn't like. He has been rebuilt and re-equipped and looks much happier I think.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/d820f271-612c-4c93-af32-b52d13de00c5.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/30857b10-2225-48b9-8746-3078815034db.jpg)
And finally but not leastly, here is the Lhankor Mhy adventurer from the 'Humanoid Adventurers 2' boxed set. That's all the humans painted from that set, now it's the beasties to go.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/0bb273dd-97c1-4ba0-b6d3-c81f6b6b6c40.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/eb827ef5-dd08-495e-943c-ead7cf6fbbd2.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/eac806c4-9e01-42fe-9396-287b71492973.jpg)
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Those are all excellent, but the shield pattern on the last fellow is amazing!
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Awesome as always Cubs, I agree the shield on the human adventurer is amazing
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The single C-series chap (or chappess, hard to tell really) has had a replaced blade for his ... I dunno what you'd call it, glaive? falx again? ... anyway, the old one had snapped off (I've yet to see an original figure with it intact)
I was feeling as smug as anything as I have that figure with the glaive intact, or should I say had. I'd already applied the base metallic colour and was about to apply a wash, literally as my brush touched it, it fell off, no pressure from me at all.
Love your half orcs.
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I have to agree with Pattus. The shield is breathtaking.
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I was feeling as smug as anything as I have that figure with the glaive intact, or should I say had. I'd already applied the base metallic colour and was about to apply a wash, literally as my brush touched it, it fell off, no pressure from me at all.
Love your half orcs.
Bugger! Can it be pinned? If not you could try my method by grinding down a waste bit of flat metal (tweezers in my case) with a nice pointy root to slide into a drilled hole in the handle.
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Thanks guys, the shield was a wobbly one and it's not perfect, but I kept the paint thin and tried not to shake too much! I wanted something to hint at Lhankor Mhy designs - kind of blue/grey with cloud patterns being quite common to denote knowledge and higher learning - and Googled a bunch of different Greek style designs. This one seemed doable but also a little fancy.
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Stunning work Cubs! Love the Malal colour schemes.
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Agree with all the others - absolutely fantastic work!
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Purty.
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They're gorgeous!
Your RuneQuest series is reinforcing my growing belief that Glorantha looks best in miniature when it involves the Perrys filtering Luise Perrin's early RQ illustrations, big-nosed trolls and all. (I also think that Glorantha as a game world was better when it was more lightly sketched in the 80s and less about the earnest anthropological treatises and what precisely your character's grandparents did during Starbrow's Revolt ...).
The chaos conversion is wonderful - and it's always good to see Proto-Slambo!
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Bugger! Can it be pinned? If not you could try my method by grinding down a waste bit of flat metal (tweezers in my case) with a nice pointy root to slide into a drilled hole in the handle.
Don't worry Cubs, I managed to pin it (through gritted teeth!)
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Cubs your a master at this painting thing, pure gold. :-*
The shield on that dwarf is next level.
Just making a comment so I can keep up to date with all the eye candy. Keep it up.
Matt
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Some more old Citadel lovelies on commish, mostly C-series. I've been experimenting with a slightly different method of painting cloaks, leaving a dark shade towards the bottom and in deep creases during the early layering, then highlighting up more on the shoulders, but with rich colour not too bleached out with white. I wanted to more accurately convey the way light affects cloth and I'm happy with how it's going.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/ca046ace-a26d-496b-8351-1b3cabe2f4d1.jpg)
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/4dec811e-62c4-41d5-9b84-9a541bd04197.jpg)
This guy's an old FF Goblin, the first Citadel ever made I'm told.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/441a7936-7db4-4804-b781-0a709520abc4.jpg)
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C-Series Fighter with big scimitar. I wanted to keep him very dark and sinister, so I went and had fun with the shield instead (the metal edging is painted on).
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/be50c9a7-a884-4b65-9e78-90bc9acdff5e.jpg)
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C-Series Fighter. The sword may have been a normal short sword, but suffered damage over time that changed its shape, but anyway I painted it as a cleaver-type sword.
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C-Series Fighter. I wanted him to look like a Knight Errant on a quest in the wilderness, with grubby armour and a rough cloth cloak.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/1721c6c8-a844-4d7a-a606-0a70003d6204.jpg)
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C-Series Thief. I blacked out the edging of the sword to give it a really crisp, clean line (the old metals can be wobbly) and I'm happy how it's turned out.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/2fd60d9c-7a0f-41f7-b874-97c74cb4ed59.jpg)
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C-Series Fighter. I thought he was a Thief when I took the pics and only found out he should have been with the Fighters when I was checking later. Oh well. I used a similar technique with his sword as well and wanted a really bright contrast with the shiny metal being drawn from the scabbard for a dramatic effect.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/ce351fbe-fe29-4ba0-b76b-71ae8869169e.jpg)
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C-Series Thief. This guy confused me to start with because I couldn't quite work out what he had in his right hand. I've painted it as a stick, which I decided it probably was, although that's not the most impressive weapon. Then again, he is a Thief, not a warrior. EDIT: Just found out, he's actually a C-Series Wizard and the stick is a wand! Good job I painted it as a stick then.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/ada0c060-6eb8-4128-8450-a8939ee1b977.jpg)
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C-Series Thief. This guy is a variant of a model I've already painted, the dude with the broad-brimmed hat. It's pretty much the same model other than that. He certainly has some Elf ancestry going on.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/1k0/05a2bedc-e0f1-498a-a263-5b8262660273.jpg)
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Breathtaking as always!
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Those are just beautiful! As always, I love the palette you’re using, it just suits these adventurers. The painted- on metal edging on the dark palette fighter looks very convincing- I would have sworn it was part of the model.
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Wonderful!
Is that a rescuplted or replaced shield on the goblin, or is it a variant? I have a few of those with a raggedy wolf emblem rather than a skull. Looks great in any case!
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Fantastic work! The eyepatch thief is probably my favourite.
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Yes the eye patch thief is my favourite as well.
Cubs just stunning, and you have done a remarkable job identifying each bit of the model while painting. That's an art on itself with some old minis!
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Wonderful!
Is that a rescuplted or replaced shield on the goblin, or is it a variant? I have a few of those with a raggedy wolf emblem rather than a skull. Looks great in any case!
Not replaced, so I guess it must be a variant. I really do not like the big chunky SKULLZ on the old shields. There's an Orc Bodyguard model with a similar one (the dude with 2-handed axe) against a stipply background ... it's a horrible blight on a great model.
Cubs just stunning, and you have done a remarkable job identifying each bit of the model while painting. That's an art on itself with some old minis!
Ain't that the truth! No explanation as to what it is, it's just some stuff the sculptor put on. There was one a few years back where the model had an odd-shaped pipe sticking out of his mouth. I contacted the Perry's just on the off chance they could remember what it was and they got back to say they had no idea! I did it vaguely brown. If in doubt, paint it vaguely brown.
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It's crazy how much more characterful the older sculpts are. Nice work, as usual.
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These are amazing.
I actually have a copy of the FF goblin with the same sheild design so I guess it was pot luck which one you got. Was one if the first figures I ever bought (new as well!) and currently sits under several coats of thick enamel.... I'd strip it off but am convinced that's all that's holding the axe head on!
The fighter drawing his rapier is a perfect likeness of my old fencing tutor, Bill. Lovely work. 8)
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I'm happy with how it's going.
As well you should be - magnificent work, Mr Cubs. Magnificent work!
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I'm afraid I don't understand all the technicalities of how you achieved your results but I do know that looking through this thread makes me want to paint.
Salute!
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Thanks guys, I do like to please with the colouring-in.
I'm afraid I don't understand all the technicalities of how you achieved your results but I do know that looking through this thread makes me want to paint.
Look, if there's anything specific you want a quick rundown on, just let me know. In general I just layer up from a black undercoat, but for specific effects I sometimes have to try something a bit fancier - either through trial and error or cheating by copying someone else's methods!
I specifically recall the first time I copied Kev Dallimore's method for painting wood with woodgrain I was so pleased with myself. I steal techniques from other painters all the time because I love what they do with their models. Shiny metals are still hit and miss sometimes and there's often a repaint and lighting effects I'm still in the early stages of.
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Those are beautiful.
I especially like the guy in leather armour drawing his foil, that is so full of character, I can't tell up to what point it's the sculpt but I suspect it's mostly your painting.
Your shift in technique with the cloaks works a treat, that is to say greater intensity of colour rather than the lower intensity that results from adding white or other lighter colours. I must give it a go myself.
Inspiring work Cubs, very much looking forward to the next installment.
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Can you explain the wood grain method?
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Can you explain the wood grain method?
I use pre-mixed colours in (mostly) 4-shades that I mix myself in empty pots I buy online, using any old paints (I find them pretty much the same) but mostly Vallejo because it's cheap! So for a dull wood shade I'd use my 'Earth' mix in Base, 1st Midtone, 2nd Midtone and Highlight over a black undercoat.
I streak the paint along the line of the weapon handle or whatever the item is, leaving a bit of the darker shade showing at the edges, with progressively thinner streaks as I go up the highlights, leaving more of the deeper shade showing between the streaks. I try to keep the streaks straight, but the natural wobble of my hand will result in natural looking woodgrain streaks.
I also concentrate the lighter shade on the top facing up or whatever bit I decide is catching the light. It's easy to decide where the light is hitting, just hold up the model and look! Pretty much every model has a 'face' angle, which you can decide shows the pose off best, the side which will be facing the camera.
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Back to the sculpting bench, not to mention 'The Repairs Shop', some stuff getting the Greenstuff.
First up is the Hobgoblin miniature, who has now grown boots, straps, some bulky vambraces on the forearms and a very gorilla-looking skull (no jaw) which will get more facial details later when dry. He's getting there, very slowly, but he's getting there.
(https://thumbs-eu-west-1.myalbum.io/photo/360/318c9a88-e9fe-46d9-9a48-3a7a45a7e5b4.jpg)
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Next some repairs to old broken models I acquired in a job lot and felt the need to bring back to life. Three of Karnac's Lizardmen Raiders from the old pre-slotta Regiment of Renown needing some repairs to their bows (and one tail). I will do them up, paint them and then sell them on, because I really don't have any use for them.
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Finally a lovely old Citadel Samurai who lost his sword. He's been on the shelf for a while, but as luck would have it, I'm painting up a batch of old Citadels for a customer and the same Samurai is included, so he was a great model for me to compare when making a new blade. I used a diamond disc in my mini-drill on a bit of wire from an under-wired bra, which is flat, rigid and perfect for making swords from. It's one reason why you're lucky if you have access to a lady who needs to wear underwired bras. A thin pin-sized tail was left on to slot down into a drilled hole between the hands, making for a perfect fit. I shall have fun making these gentlemen of Nippon nice and fancy.
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Latest up are some lovely old Citadel Runequest trolls, from the 'Humanoid Adventurers #2' boxed set. First is a Great Troll adventurer, with original heavy maul (very common for surviving models to have lost this - I have painted one before using a replacement mace). His Spirit Rune (the cross shape on his shield) was indented into the surface, so I fancied it up a bit to make it 3d. Second is a Mistress Race Troll adventurer, who for some reason has wandered away from her tribe. Since her shield is almost totally obscured, I went simpler and painted it as animal hide.
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Wow that’s really good painting!
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Yes, both of those look great! It always amazes my how much your painting brings out the best on these old figures. I also enjoy seeing the figures themselves - they have a lot of details.
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Incredible paintjobs! Love the muted color, simply fantastic!! :-*
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I really like the painting on the RQ Trolls.I used to love that range and had quite a few of the box sets.
Nice work on fixing the Samurai's sword.Is he one from the very old range from the 1980's?I have a few of them but never seen the un-armoured one.
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Thanks guys, it's a joy to keep finding the hidden gems of the old days.
Nice work on fixing the Samurai's sword. Is he one from the very old range from the 1980's?I have a few of them but never seen the un-armoured one.
You know what, I don't know. He's not one of the C05 'Oriental Heroes' range by Aly Morrison and I can't find him anywhere else. It's possible he's a variant of the short-lived C05 'Specialists (Martial Arts Monks)' with sandals and hair added, but it's a pretty classic pose. I'll ask Richard about him.
Edit: He was a limited edition figure given for the Sheffield store opening. Lucky find for me then!
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Glorious work on those trolls!
Ultimately, Citadel's take on RuneQuest - based on the Luise Perrin RQ2 and Borderlands illustrations - was the best, I reckon - as this thread had amply demonstrated!
That hobgoblin hero's coming along nicely too!
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Lovely work as always on some very unique models.
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Beautiful paintjob on these!
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Oh my word. Those trolls are the business. The flesh and fabrics are as excellent as always, but you've really sold that stone mace head. I'm in awe.
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Fantastic! The flesh is incredible, what’s your process to achieve that effect?
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Fantastic! The flesh is incredible, what’s your process to achieve that effect?
Thanks, it's nothing fancy, just layering and inks/washes. I mix my own colours in 4 (or 6 with fleshtones) stages in pots, so it's to hand.
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You're really making these models shine. I have all your McDeath paintjobs bookmarked as you bring out the best in the old models.
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You're really making these models shine. I have all your McDeath paintjobs bookmarked as you bring out the best in the old models.
Thanks, the McDeath ones were a special job, no doubt about it. The great thing is being able to paint all those wonderful models I could never afford as a kid and could only covet from afar. Now I get all the fun of colouring them in without having to store them (well, some of them are mine).