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Title: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Heresy on May 14, 2009, 12:26:55 PM
Hello!

I present you my first miniature of my new proyect: Spanish Tercio (no end date  lol). I'm using ECW Warlord miniatures, but I'll paint all pikeman with Italian and Spanish Morrion and muskets with brimmed hat, any with montero caps!. Opinions, suggestions, etc are welcome!.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLi_LNaTx7A/Sgk7ioxD_BI/AAAAAAAACLo/lfQ5CSRd0Dg/s400/Alferez.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/Y5Tog5vPSe0bRfcvTCBw6Q?feat=embedwebsite)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLi_LNaTx7A/Sgk7isSXSKI/AAAAAAAACLs/6Au-vsrqxAk/s400/Alferez%20%281%29.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/_SuAguxe2ZkHYsJZTxiKDg?feat=embedwebsite)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qLi_LNaTx7A/Sgk7inaCw3I/AAAAAAAACLw/xnN_j5gy4Ts/s400/Alferez%20%282%29.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/ZVoeE8bgPLrIXbr4lJPVYA?feat=embedwebsite)
Title: Re: Spanish Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Calimero on May 14, 2009, 12:28:38 PM

 :o  wow!  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: cdr on May 14, 2009, 12:57:54 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*
Did you read Bueno " Soldados de espana" with the 1632 uniform regulations ?

Carl
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Malebolgia on May 14, 2009, 01:01:01 PM
...wow...
Suggestions? Base it? :P
No really, fantastic paintjob. Love the soft colors, techniques used and overall look. The colors are fantastic and work well. What paints do you use?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Heresy on May 14, 2009, 11:10:33 PM
Thanks for the comments

Did you read Bueno " Soldados de espana" with the 1632 uniform regulations ?

I dont know it!, I've read Tercios de Espańa by Fernando Martinez and El ejercito espańol en la guerra de los 30 ańos by Pablo Martin Gomez, very very good both, but in spanish :S!. I scored this book for future purchases :), thanks for the info!

Base it? :P

Soon  ;D (I need more minis)

What paints do you use?

All from Vallejo and citadel foundation: base color --> ligths

Red: Flat brown --> Flat red
Yellow: Tausept ochre --> ++white

Boots: Beige brown --> ++white
Coleto: Burnt umber --> British uniform
Gloves: Charadon granite --> ++white

Saludos!.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Captain Blood on May 14, 2009, 11:20:01 PM
Lovely. He certainly looks Spanish!

I find the Warlord ECW officer figures slightly strange looking. Kind of stiff and bulky. But you've made a beautiful job of this one. One of the best paint jobs I've seen on the Warlord ECW figures so far.  :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: carlos marighela on May 15, 2009, 01:55:03 AM
That is a fantastic paintjob, marvellous work.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: dodge on May 15, 2009, 07:13:05 AM
Brilliant, so neat and clear  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: cdr on May 15, 2009, 09:04:17 AM
To Heresy , in case you don't find the book

1632 ....jubones y greguescos amarillos .... con un capotillo de mangas perdidas de color pardo(for musketeers) ....los piqueros llevaban la armadura...
walloon soldiers apparently had a blue "capotillo"
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Poliorketes on May 15, 2009, 09:32:36 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: MuleSkinner on May 15, 2009, 10:10:11 AM
gotta love the shading on that standard  ;D
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Heresy on May 15, 2009, 11:07:23 AM
Thanks for the comments!

To Heresy , in case you don't find the book

1632 ....jubones y greguescos amarillos .... con un capotillo de mangas perdidas de color pardo(for musketeers) ....los piqueros llevaban la armadura...
walloon soldiers apparently had a blue "capotillo"


Thanks thanks thanks :). The "capotillo" = coleto I think. I've read the red colors is very important in spanish troops: red is Castilla color. My idea is paint the muskets with brown colors, "dark style", with some piece in red or yellow!.

Cyu!.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: dodge on May 16, 2009, 06:35:50 AM
I'm just looking at that figure again, admiring the painting.

how do you get the depth of colour and neatness do you black line afterwards?

just brilliant I could look at it for hours.

dodge
 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Calimero on May 16, 2009, 12:13:23 PM

Here are two special requests (and I think I’m not the only one interested)… please show us more of them as they come along and tell us how do you achieve this kind of quality when painting your figures?  o_o
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Heresy on May 16, 2009, 10:35:42 PM
Hello!

Thanks you for the comments.

Well...I will try explain it, but is hard with my little english! (I will need use a translator.. lol)

I start with white primer: to achieve more vivid colors. After, I profile with black (60% water + 40% black) ALL parts and pieces, to separate them clearly and facilitate the subsequent painting. If you quit, don't worry, isn't the final paint. Example:

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_qLi_LNaTx7A/Sg8w4VbtBzI/AAAAAAAACOE/zyc0cU4LBhg/s400/Perfilar.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/gcGakiLEu_vZzbI5G4VMdw?authkey=Gv1sRgCPuz1uTk5ojBMg&feat=embedwebsite)

To continue, is need contemplate the miniature colors:

-If we want paint red color, we cant start with flat red and light with orange or pink (isn't natural!!!), we need use a dark color, like flat brown or red brown, and light with flat red.
-Paint yellow: idem!. We can't start with flat yellow (Also, this color is too liiight: phosforite). I decided use a ochre color (Tausept ochre, by Citadel Foundation) like base color and light with +white.
-Etc

In my blog i've several articles about paint red, blue, yellow and white...but are in spanish :( (but with pictures!):  3 articles in "Nivel basico":

http://www.heresybrush.com/guides/

Then, I start to paint clothes. First I apply the base color watery (1/2 water + 1/2 color), to avoid lumps. I need apply several layers to get a uniform color. After, I apply the lights (add white or other color, depends on the base; for example: yellow --> yellow + white; dark brown -->  light brown; green --> green + yellow; etc). This light will be watery too (although will need apply several layers). With watery layers we get degraded easily. I apply 5-6 lights, increasingly fine. Example:

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_qLi_LNaTx7A/Sg8xguH5Z5I/AAAAAAAACOI/YkE4wKqWpuc/s400/Dibujo.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/tXR4I7lcnzuUjiHLI__ZoA?authkey=Gv1sRgCPuz1uTk5ojBMg&feat=embedwebsite)

After, I use the base color, or other color more dark, and review the shadows. So,  get more contrast!.

And finally, I perfile again with black, to review the correct separation between clothes or pieces.

I hope you understand all :P!

Cyu!.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: commissarmoody on May 20, 2009, 06:49:32 AM
oh vary nice! I cant wait to see were you go with this
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Sangennaru on May 24, 2009, 08:02:23 PM
that's clever! thanks for the tip! :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: dodge on May 25, 2009, 07:02:49 AM
nice tip, lovely and effective


thank you
Title: Re: Spanish Tercio, Alférez [TYW]
Post by: Calimero on May 25, 2009, 03:35:25 PM

Thanks for the tips… now I just need to focus and actually paint something using this technique.  lol